Surrogate Mother Forced into Risky Procedure to Save Unborn Twins | Chicago Med | MD TV

[@tracy3418]

This wouldn't even be a discussion nowadays. Both would probably die before legal team said any surgery was okay to perform

[@Vee_breeze2767]

As awful as this is, she signed a contract and they aren’t her babies. But I’m glad Dr Halstead found a way around it

[@liezelbickle9430]

No they are hers no contract excuse is acceptable enough to throw out the fact that she is the mother of the children! You are wrong.

[@dietotaku]

@@liezelbickle9430 but she isn't. she is neither the biological nor legal mother of either fetus. vee is right, contractually it is not her body and not her babies, therefore not her choice. if she wasn't capable of adhering to the parents' wishes, she shouldn't have agreed to lease out her body. besides she was clearly getting way too attached to the babies already, what is going to happen come delivery? is she going to fight to keep them because she gestated them and she thinks of them as hers?

[@markhaber3131]

@@dietotaku i am not american but i am almost sure such contracts are ilegal even in the us the birth mother is always the legal mother of a child even if its not from her egg cells

[@princessflop]

⁠@@markhaber3131it depends on which state you’re in. Louisiana and Michigan are currently the only states that still ban surrogacy contracts, however Michigan has a statute going into effect in 2025 to allow surrogacy. If there was no contract, then the baby belongs to the birth mother, regardless of the biological parents, however most individuals have a contract and either a pre-birth or post-birth order to transfer custody to the biological parents

[@Spider-PunkOffical]

​@@liezelbickle9430She's not the mother.

[@neocomp92]

Why is she in the ER long after she was stabilised? I thought ERs are terrified of pregnant women

[@ro-fz1jt]

Obviously you didn't watch the show 🙄

[@karenlarkin4049]

It's called a hernia of Morgagni. In most cases the baby cannot develop properly. Babies born with this diaphragmatic hernia might require immediate surgery. A very few number of babies born with this live their lives, no problems. Others, like me at 55 years of age, have a sudden dire situation when the abdominal organs move through the hole and enter the chest, affecting the function of the heart and/or lungs

[@ro-fz1jt]

Did anyone ask

[@ro-fz1jt]

And I'm not asking for myself I don't need to know

[@MusicLoverMN]

Wow. She already gave them life by getting pregnant for them but saving their son is even better. They owe both of their kids to her but especially their son.

[@jessicaarmstrong5035]

Yeah great. And what if it hadn't ended up this way. This is a fictional TV show. Which means that in real life most likely this wouldn't have turned out this way. He could've killed all 3 of them if he hadn't been so lucky. And she shouldn't have had the right to make that decision. It's not her kids. She isn't the one who has to live with the consequences. Those parents are most likely going to have to pay for a lot of medical procedures later because when you have that kind of hernia, it's not just one surgery and everything is cured. Now those parents are going to have to suffer the consequences of her decision to do that. But sure. Let's call her a hero like she didn't just hold those parents hostage like she did.

[@SCK-1231]

If she had such problems like asthma in her last pregnancy how did she qualify to be a surrogate ?

[@rebekah1362]

Dramatic license, I suspect.

[@crazypyp5871]

Plus I believe that you have to have had at least two pregnancies before a surogacy.

[@MK-hx5wd]

The surrogate mother was willing to put her own health / life more at risk than to have one of the babies killed for their parents! 💗

[@Seek1878]

She easily could have gotten the other twin crushed by fluid by being stubborn.

[@1tommyday]

This woman went to far. The risk to her own self is priority

[@ellebee2988]

Just throwing it out there, it is treatable. My relative was born with this condition. Chances may be slim but slim doesnt mean impossible.

[@jayleighbear]

here’s the thing though they weren’t stressed out about the boy having the condition, they were upset bc the healthy fetus was at risk of dying as well and they were the last two eggs. if it’s between one or none most ppl would choose one.

[@Seek1878]

as they mentioned, severity varies.

[@Thommy2n]

Easily treatable if it's the only fetus. As said here it's more complicated when there's other buns in the same oven.

[@jessicaarmstrong5035]

A lot of it depends on how far along the fetuses are and how strong they are. All of that is assessed when giving a chance of probability. Yes, maybe your relative was lucky enough to survive it. But there's a whole slew of babies that never do. You can't make a decision hoping that you're part of the 1% when other lives are at stake. By allowing the male fetus to grow, it most likely would've killed both him and the other fetus. I'm going to guess that your relative wasn't a twin. The decision might've been different if they were.

[@hexes5122]

He doesn’t say it’s impossible or untreatable, the problem was just with the other baby being affected.

[@irishmike93]

Oh my God I had this exact scenario for my Moot Court competition in law school

[@sineadduffy8253]

1.2 Dr. Will Halstead. 1.3 Dr. Natalie Manning. 1.4 April Sexton. 1.5 Dr. Sarah Reese. 1.6 Dr. Connor Rhodes. 1.7 Dr. Ethan Choi. 1.8 Sharon Goodwin. i love you doctors and nurse to look after the patents i love having ashama

[@alyssaheller7860]

Why didnt this get brought up along side the selective abortion ? Parents thought there was only only on choice. Either lose one baby or both. They were clearly on board with the new option where both babies could survive and surrogate was willing to take the extra risk to herself. They all wanted both babies to live. I am pregnant rn. 21 weeks and i could not imagine hearing my baby's abdominal organs have gone into his chest etc.

[@Seek1878]

because a last minute miracle procedure is a common trope on medical shows.

[@kaseys2004]

Congratulations on your little one

[@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayer]

In cases like this, the parents should have no say regardless of a contract, only the surrogate who goes off the doctor's recommendations

[@RockyOtter]

Why not? It's their babies.

[@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayer]

@@RockyOtter and the surrogate Isn't just a incubator The doctor's said everything could stabilise, so the surrogate is going off that also her maternal instinct could've been telling her everything could stabilise as well which was why she said she couldn't last minute

[@markhaber3131]

@@RockyOtter actualy it is not theirs the legal mother is the person who gives birth to a child so in this cas the legal parents are the father and the surrogate mother.

[@heyheyyouyouidontlike]

​@@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayerbut she is an incubator. That is what you sign up for when you become a surrogate. They are not her kids she should not get a day in what happened to them unless it's going to directly affect her future wellbeing. Like if continuing to carry the babies would put her in harms way.

[@MissLadyG99]

​@@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayerYou mean maternal instinct?

[@aquakitty6603]

Nah, if I saw that my lawyer was acting that way toward a doctor by saying, " Stay in your place," I would right away tell her to leave

[@brookeferguson5301]

i was sick and sicker and sickness and sickening to my stomach to heal the wound and I just wanted to let my body is very important to make the decision decisions and choices decide what I want to be involved with my pregnancy to get better results for my pregnancy test and the addisons are not taking any responsibility for their special level high and low pressure from blood to their own stomach problems for many more months to rest resting and rested and sleeping lots more a bit more days now ok

[@willroths747]

I miss dr.halstead

[@Seek1878]

I don't, guy was a menace with a god complex.

[@willroths747]

@@Seek1878 true there where more then some questionable moments but still plenty of good things that he did

[@KatyKat0604]

As awful as it sounds, unless the surrogates life is at risk she has absolutely no say in what happens to the children. She is not the parent legally or biologically, she was told this at the beginning most likely. That is what being a surrogate means as harsh and inhumane as it sounds; when you sign up to be a surrogate you are signing up to be a living incubator for someone's child. your opinion on how that child is medically taken care of is null and void.

[@markhaber3131]

wrong the legal mother is the woman who gives birth to the child. genetics do not matter

[@heyheyyouyouidontlike]

Exactly. She signed up for this. She knew she would have no say. If she couldn't handle that she shouldn't have become a surrogate b

[@Spectre-69]

She's not a "living incubator", she's a human being. The contract doesn't and never will change her species, end of.

[@effkay3691]

Maybe in the loony bin called America. Everywhere else in the modern world the individual is in charge of their own body

[@onegreenenvy]

You can’t force a human into surgery. No doctor would feel comfortable seating and operating on a patient as they beg you not to

[@Lynn705Hal]

I would have long ago fired that doctor. Every episode I see him in makes me want to fire him. Him & the female brunette doctor. Both very judgemental & think they're godlike.

[@abhaykrishna9292]

Dr.halstead is a good doctor he does every thing for the patient's your just mad that you never got love the way his Patient's did

[@TaelTheFennec]

@@abhaykrishna9292 it's a TV show, calm down lmao

[@marshariusadams6236]

You must can’t have kids and this happened to you

[@abhaykrishna9292]

@@TaelTheFennec dang bro I ain't mad he insulted a Halstead so I insulted him a little

[@TaelTheFennec]

@@abhaykrishna9292 again, it's a TV show

[@missyrose2154]

So people are fine with this woman being forced to have an abortion against her will? I thought the fighting chant was my body my choice ? Ok she signed a document but it still should be her say in the end for what is going on in HER body according to abortion proponents yet so many here want the couple to decide what to do with the patients body . It’s confusing

[@KS-cl8br]

she chose to be a surrogate so she chose to give up her rights for the pregnancy in return for compensation... it is the parents choice

[@Seek1878]

@@KS-cl8br that's not correct, a surrogate cannot be forced to or banned from having an abortion.

[@Seek1878]

Is not about just the abortion, its that she's risking the other twin.

[@foadnashef7288]

​@@Seek1878it was stated in yhe beggining, when it come to the babies she gave up her right to decied

[@obruchecarson]

Can someone please tell me what season and episode this is?

[@clairepenfold6432]

Season 4 episode 11 it’s in the description

[@obruchecarson]

@@clairepenfold6432 OK thanks

[@amanatrathore3864]

Always dr . Halstead❤❤

[@OfficialLegoSpeakerKingg]

First to comment y’all are awesome I just watched y’all yesterday day night on air

[@louiscyphre2267]

This isn’t NBC.

[@lilliancornils5025]

She wasnt forced into anything

[@nvm9040]

Good thing Dr Manning isn’t doing this case 😂 The mother has every right to speak up and have a say in her babies even though she is a surrogate

[@heyheyyouyouidontlike]

They are not her children. Biologically or legally. She signed up for that when she signed up to be a surrogate.

[@Seek1878]

She's not the mother

[@l0rdapophis]

Man I would fall on my stomach so hard in front of those "parents" 🤣 "Oops"

[@--julian_]

halstead is always so stubborn

[@Nightshadegamer423]

He always tries to solve situations on his own and he always tries to get things his way for the better

[@louiscyphre2267]

He took over Dr. Manning’s role. Well more so.

[@Chortzy]

the man quite literally ignored a woman's dnr. pure evil.

[@effkay3691]

Has anyone seen the Bridesmaid Tale?

[@carolelizabethowens2661]

@effkay3691 Are you actually referring to the Handmaid's Tale?

[@effkay3691]

@@carolelizabethowens2661 Yes sorry. Autocorrect

[@SpookyGhostHippy]

It’s not up to her anymore she signed a contract while I feel bad that it’s her body being used but it’s very unfair to the parents as well

[@sjfrench8034]

I find it kind of strange that they didn't bring up how general anesthesia was a risk to her until they were talking about the second surgery, because it would have been a factor in the first surgery too. And it would complicate the matter a lot. In this it's framed as an issue of the surrogate wanting something different for the babies from the parents. The contract in that scenario means everything, letting the surrogate make the choice would the same as letting someone override the parents wishes for their child once the child was out of the womb. Dr. Halstead's arguments that she's not just "a living incubator" are stupid in that scenario, because they're not talking about her, they're talking about the babies. But when the general anesthesia problem comes into play, it completely changes it. Then the living incubator question comes into play, she signed a contract saying they could make choices about the babies but didn't sign it saying they could make choices that put her life in danger. Dr. Halstead's point seems a lot more valid that way. In this I was just frustrated with him, you can't change your mind with a contract like that. If you could change your mind then what would be the point of the contract?

[@SlykRL]

Capitalism and its consequences.

[@RockyOtter]

Wtf are you talking about? This doesn't have *anything* to do with capitalism. Capitalism sucks. This isn't the place for that.

[@SojibKhan-zn9js]

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[@louiscyphre2267]

Why would they need something so useless? There’s no recaps on this channel ever.

[@liezelbickle9430]

She should have more say then child robbers!! They are not the real family she is.

[@leeleavelle716]

She has zero relation to the children

[@markhaber3131]

@@leeleavelle716 she gives birth to the children she has far mor relations with them as the genetic parents

[@heyheyyouyouidontlike]

​@@markhaber3131 Y'all really seem to pick and choose whose allowed to be called parents. She does not have any genetic relation to the babies. Would you say the same thing if they adopted kids instead?

[@MissLadyG99]

​@@markhaber3131No, her carrying them doesn't make her more related to them than their own biological parents.

[@keyboardsmash1231]

Do you know anything? The lady is just a carrier.

[@freyamccauley]

Or you could ask Jesus Christ to help.

[@Testsubject99807]

Give the poor man a break he's dead not duct tape.

[@leeleavelle716]

You must’ve missed the part where they said waiting and seeing wouldnt end well

[@dietotaku]

@@Testsubject99807 LMAO I need that on a bumper sticker!

[@effkay3691]

Who is he or she?

[@Seek1878]

You're funny.