Me trying to convince

[@Sam-uu3ih]

cloud is cool but if a player enjoys playing another char, that's they're choice. even if people like watching spargo's cloud, pretty sure any other good cloud can take the spotlight, kola for example

[@Mufflin]

Man, if I see a character drop a character I like for another I'm gonna question it. Sure it dosen't change their descion but if it's a stupid ass decision of course I don't like it. Leo dropping Byleth for Joker essentially is way more disappointing then Spargo dropping cloud for pythra for that at LEAST make sense from a competitive stand point. Leo's lucky he's so freaking good at this game considering he's the only Byleth I can think of that has top player representation.

[@Sam-uu3ih]

@Jokester Kitsune moisties at evo 🔥🔥🔥

[@Sam-uu3ih]

@@Mufflin yeah i get what you mean. leo busting out his joker at summit was indeed very cool

[@N00b_slayer]

but didnt kola drop cloud for roy? it almost feels like the 2 best cloud mains just switched to other characters-

[@crazyarceus4617]

i agree that he should play chars that he wants to. i personally just love watching his Cloud, so i dont want him to drop him.

[@gilbertguerrero2916]

I hope he doesn’t either. Him focusing on solo Aegis would get really stale really fast IMO. I’d like to see him use both characters.

[@MonochromicOutcast]

I personally find the aegis to watch very boring, I'd almost go as far as to say, as boring as sonic.

[@gilbertguerrero2916]

@@MonochromicOutcast can’t say I disagree there. This proves my point. I don’t think they’re very exciting characters to spectate either so if he’s going to use them, at least play them in conjunction with cloud who I think is more exciting.

[@pavvthran]

@@gilbertguerrero2916 he did try playing cloud and his cloud is underperforming in comparison to his aegis and he’s a comp player not a viewer satisfier ofc he wants to win so why would he care about exciting u when he’d rather win

[@gilbertguerrero2916]

@@pavvthran I understand that. I just wish he could strike a healthy balance between the 2 and obviously spectators like me don’t matter in top level play.

[@pavvthran]

@@gilbertguerrero2916 yea fair enough I get what u mean tho his cloud is more hype aegis play extremely safe and it is kinda boring

[@Picollo860847]

Iam tbh on the same boat as sparg0. (Despite being much worse haha) cloud really feels sometimes very inconsistent and the aegis are so stupidly easy and have quite similar traits like cloud, every cloud main should at least try them out they can also help in certain match ups.... Other than that I really admire sparg0s ability to use clouds tools at the fullest, when I watch videos on his sets I always wonder how fast he can react and how accurate and smooth and fast his moves are... There is still a lot to do!

[@kroton09yt15]

As a longtime Cloud main, I " p o l i t e l y " disagree with the first half of this comment.

[@RurouniiJay]

Kroton09YT same here. Cloud is insanely strong fundamentally as a character, hes beyond reliable, explosive and gets the job done. He can keep a lead or make the comeback with ease.

[@kroton09yt15]

@@RurouniiJay Yeah, I've had Cloud as my main ever since he got added to Smash 4

[@Godlysound]

I mean if he can actually get his mythra as clean as his cloud then it would be terrifying, but I feel like his cloud is the most explosive cloud in the meta atm

[@adinv9257]

I miss the old spargo The crispy cloud spargo The on point bair spargo Straight from the go spargo

[@1jodielol]

L

[@doof2890]

@@1jodielol hes still there, he never left my guy

[@silksong6596]

I used to love spargo I used to love spargo

[@salmo436]

Ah hell nah what is this

[@Sam-uu3ih]

@@salmo436 kzbin.info/www/bejne/poHLaqGEgtCKapo it's from this

[@Mark-tw7en]

Sparg0: I think it’s time to leave cloud for pyra and mythra Sparg0: ok maybe not 0:01

[@Soultoo]

lmao

[@parisrealick]

Main solo cloud is rough. cloud needs few buffs, just a little, to get really good

[@sai6724]

just have falling up air hitbox from below bigger so its more consistent on grounded opponents and suddenly he'll be top tier again

[@parisrealick]

@@sai6724 yeah that will help. But i dont think this is the buff that brings cloud on the top.

[@blackghostcat]

@@sai6724 it's actually just as big as before, it just doesn't have as many active frames

[@sai6724]

@@blackghostcat falling upair used to have the ability to hit characters like a crouching diddy or greninja in smash 4 in this game, they took that away

[@blackghostcat]

@@sai6724 idk why you said that bro. It was probably very obvious that I knew that based on what I wrote before

[@thekaiserin]

Honestly, if more people take up Pyra/Mythra it should bring to attention that perhaps they need some balance adjustments.

[@SomeoneWeird-vx5jx]

Oh they better get nerfed after summit

[@mathunit1]

@@SomeoneWeird-vx5jx I'm gonna laugh if Sakurai buffed Pyra instead like how he keeps buffing Pikachu. XD

[@HAD_260]

Sparg0 said he will always be a cloud main at heart

[@starter497]

Cloud just doesn't have a good grounded poking tool. His downtilt doesn't really compliment his kit.

[@louisvuittondonvg9040]

ftilt?

[@starter497]

@@louisvuittondonvg9040 that's not safe. You can upsmash Oos with most characters. Some can even punish heavily with good spacing.

[@louisvuittondonvg9040]

@@starter497 That’s true, what would be a comparable move that is a good grounded poking tool in neutral then?

[@starter497]

@@louisvuittondonvg9040 generic downtilts. Incineroar, pichu, shiek, greninja, links, young links, Roy, fire emblems etc... it's crazy enough that they all poke well with downtilts, but even crazier that some of them combo.

[@louisvuittondonvg9040]

@@starter497 true good points.

[@LazyStarrfish]

Sparg0 is sticking with the Cloud/Aegis combo. Glad to see it. He did great again at Riptide

[@DirectorOFun]

I miss Sparg0’s Cloud. Pyra and Mythra as a character are just so uninteresting to watch imo.

[@jetixdbz1]

i 100% agree. pyra is unintersting to watch because almost everyone uses them.

[@JugularJohn]

Faaaacts bro. Everyones all like “lmao stop complaining about them just cause they’re dlc”. Yeah. They’re dlc, and everyone in summit is using them because they’re straight up broken.

[@normanselva6397]

Its lame tbh, mythra is better sheik and pyra is better ike, combined in one character

[@JugularJohn]

@@normanselva6397 yeah. And people say she isn’t better cause “bAd RecOvErY” like, lmfao

[@metainstincts85]

@@JugularJohn and that move can be used more than just ‘’recovery” too. Pyra’s hit like terry using power geyser, and mythra can use it for extra damage at the end of a combo

[@Tonjit41]

Cloud is holding him back.

[@hobosorcerer]

Oh man, imagine trying to make those voice lines sound cool in a clip. I sympathize with you Cloud mains.

[@karlos594]

I Love cloud! But he’s right... at TOP LEVEL some characters are just wayy to fast and have great frame data that cloud can’t compete with :/

[@redgerran]

If he had switched to Pyra in the first clip, he probably would have recovered. In the second clip, he knew that going for photon edge was risky. He got a little too cocky and lost the set because of it.

[@shogunmyoung9932]

This is how you beat Mythra

[@verylargemandarinslice8965]

Please tell me you’re not trying to get him to stop playing aegis, he likes playing aegis more but he shouldn’t drop them for cloud again, like I understand why he relies on pyra mythra but even then he was already harassed for choosing them instead of cloud and I don’t want this situation to repeat again

[@iTokyoDemon]

cool edit: cant help but notice this is the 3rd upload this week, keep em coming my guy always love watching your videos. Happy 7k heres to 10k! :D

[@thatdude3977]

Never forget where you came from!! Rip 🌧

[@ashy3604]

I dropped cloud not long back, but i main 2 characters replicating clouds semi agressive playstyle, marth and roy. Cloud’ll always be a character ill play.

[@themidgarbadass2517]

Mythra: my up b puts you in hitstun for 5 years I must have the best move in the game Cloud: haha LCS go brrr

[@Newo48]

back air go brrrr

[@emmanuelroutsis9534]

Shoxas…it’s your time to take on the mantle as the new cloud main

[@willez99]

And people say that Aegis' recovery is only mediocre. Jokes aside, they could've used Pyra to snap the ledge to avoid 2-frame. Also I doubt Sparg0 will ever drop Cloud

[@178laaleros]

He will still use cloud tho. He destroyed riddles at summit.

[@thatdude3977]

True!

[@NaughtyPigMario]

''destroyed'' wasn't it game 5

[@doof2890]

sparg0 is the most well known cloud itd be a real shame if he did

[@BobBob-bm9kz]

I miss spargo's cloud, name a player/character duo that's more fun to watch

[@ollie7205]

as an aegis main and cloud secondary i pray he doesnt drop him. i love watching both characters

[@dave9515]

If cloud gets buffed sparg0 will probably pick cloud up again if the buffs are good. I think sparg0 made the right choice. #cloudsux

[@gigaflare9710]

Top 3 character? Not interested

[@karlos594]

Can I play your cloud!

[@UmbreonMightyena]

I'm a Pyra/Mythra main and I honestly think Mythra deserved to die to that 1 hit of Limit Cross slash

[@rocco2246]

Yep

[@chordalharmony]

You know something’s up when the main agrees with something stupid (like me and Wolf down smash. That thing is a war crime)

[@UmbreonMightyena]

@@chordalharmony True

[@야-l8z]

op vs op 🤢

[@dr.manthanos7781]

sparg0 was my inspiration for playing cloud, and thanks to that, cloud is my favourite character of the game, and my main, pyra and mythra are both annoying, lame and broken, so i hate them so much, and the fact that sparg0 is starting to maining them pisses me off

[@RurouniiJay]

Hot take as a chrom cloud and byleth main who plays the aegis a lot too, cloud is a better character and the aegis are super overrated.

[@IkerTG]

What with sparg0?

[@IkerTG]

Just clickbait cause cloud?

[@Myztyrio]

Drop Cloud, play Ness

[@metainstincts85]

The character must be real problematic if marss himself pulls a esam rant on pissra.