Can I Beat Pokemon Red with ONLY Oddish? 🔴 Pokemon Challenges ► NO ITEMS IN BATTLE

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In this video I take you along my ridiculous Pokemon Red Challenge Journey through the world of Kanto in Generation 1 as I attempt to beat the entire game with only Oddish, and without using Items in Battle! Am I able to do it? Only one way to find out!
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@MahDryBread
@MahDryBread 2 жыл бұрын
Right after the premiere I'll be streaming some Pokemon Legends Arceus over on Twitch!: www.twitch.tv/mahdrybread
@nerdstop5025
@nerdstop5025 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet
@spike_-ry1se
@spike_-ry1se 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait
@mrormrs.something3897
@mrormrs.something3897 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please do Pokémon black with just Munna?
@akubanekuroda1359
@akubanekuroda1359 2 жыл бұрын
great vid mdb, you mentioned the idea of a bellsprout-oddish run, are you able to do colliseum on game cube? since thats a double battle game.
@daviddrake5991
@daviddrake5991 2 жыл бұрын
Some fish has beak like mouths. Thusly having peck is not strange
@Jrose11
@Jrose11 2 жыл бұрын
So you're saying I need to do this lower than level 87? Challenge accepted, "rival".
@michaelbricker1129
@michaelbricker1129 2 жыл бұрын
I love this comment 😂
@MahDryBread
@MahDryBread 2 жыл бұрын
Name it Bellsprout, because that's hilarious
@graythaprince
@graythaprince 2 жыл бұрын
We need a Jrose and MDB collab
@shanecrowe8517
@shanecrowe8517 2 жыл бұрын
I found MDB's channel because I started watching Jrose vids religiously during the pandemic. I watch both religiously now. (When's the colab coming? Maybe a guest appearance in the Pokemon Stadium 2 Let's Play? 😎👍 Lol ) But seriously, you guys are awesome and thank you both for the great content!
@LucarioFan999
@LucarioFan999 2 жыл бұрын
W
@SlippySteveUK
@SlippySteveUK 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, Oddish's Physical attack stat is higher than the Physical attack stat of Onix. We already saw MDB win with WaterOnix mod
@qweschuning
@qweschuning 2 жыл бұрын
Wish we had more water onix runs
@devincyr4992
@devincyr4992 2 жыл бұрын
He barley ever loses if not ever so idk why he puts that in the beginning of his videos
@almightyk11
@almightyk11 2 жыл бұрын
@@devincyr4992 he does sometimes
@ZorotheGallade
@ZorotheGallade 2 жыл бұрын
And it can learn Swords Dance. Those are some pretty sharp leaves (even though it can only use that attack for Acid or Double Edge).
@Denuhm
@Denuhm 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing a run with my favourite Pokémon
@mhumer2739
@mhumer2739 2 жыл бұрын
How did you do that?
@AngeliGardner
@AngeliGardner 2 жыл бұрын
@@mhumer2739 if you're talking about the highlight, I think it's a perk of the super thanks thing
@andrewwupori6163
@andrewwupori6163 2 жыл бұрын
@@mhumer2739 🤦‍♂️
@zachtwilightwindwaker596
@zachtwilightwindwaker596 2 жыл бұрын
So, this is the comment that he was talking about?
@PerpetualPyro
@PerpetualPyro Жыл бұрын
I love oddish, he is my fav Pokémon
@coltengardner7470
@coltengardner7470 2 жыл бұрын
7:50 Also worth noting, Gen 1 A.I. for some reason only registers a Pokémon's Primary type, not its secondary. It doesn't happen 100% of the time, but probably around 75%ish
@shanoc5902
@shanoc5902 2 жыл бұрын
It's actually a bit more complicated. It's less about the primary type and more about the first result on the in-built type chart it registers. It sees that Poison is super effective to grass before it sees that poison resists poison so the AI believes that poison is super-effective. Whether the typing it 'sees' is the primary or secondary is irrelevant, as once it finds a specific result of it's typing against either of yours it reports that. A Poison/grass pokemon would get the same results, you can find lists about the typing priority it checks. This is also the same super-effective checking method is also shared by the text-box so if the game says something is super-effective the AI thinks it's super-effective regardless as to if that's the truth or not!
@mikecabral2420
@mikecabral2420 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously? I knew the text was glitched so it only registers in one type when it says whether it's super effective or not but the damage is supposed to be accurate. When you see how much of a buggy mess gen 1 is, it is kinda incredible how popular it was and still is.
@EssexAggiegrad2011
@EssexAggiegrad2011 2 жыл бұрын
@@shanoc5902 So Gen 1 is ever more broken
@Deadflower019
@Deadflower019 2 жыл бұрын
@@shanoc5902 How was gen 1 even a thing at this point. There are SCPs that make more sense than it's inner workinga.
@goodsamaritangaming1997
@goodsamaritangaming1997 2 жыл бұрын
Erika: has a Vileplume, so she should know Oddish's typing. Also Erika: Poison Powder works on grass types. It should work on Oddish.
@daniellongpre9623
@daniellongpre9623 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't it because the coding is only looking at the first type so the AI just assumes the type is just grass so goes for the "super effective" move?
@goodsamaritangaming1997
@goodsamaritangaming1997 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but that doesn't make it less funny to think about. It's even funnier to think about the fact that she's a gym leader AI and lacks the Intelligence part of that AI.
@patrickh6571
@patrickh6571 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe she did get it via trade and didn't know it's part of the Oddish line. 🤣
@goodsamaritangaming1997
@goodsamaritangaming1997 2 жыл бұрын
@@patrickh6571 If that's the case, she sure knows how to get what she wants. Probably used Attract to squeeze her way into the gym leader position. 🤣Either that or she stole the Vileplume and is secretly part of Team Rocket. They sent her over from the local Team Rocket hideout. 🤣🤣
@sheilaburrowes9081
@sheilaburrowes9081 2 жыл бұрын
@@goodsamaritangaming1997 She got her job on the casting couch. Shame, because she seemed like such a nice girl.
@BioniclesaurKing4t2
@BioniclesaurKing4t2 2 жыл бұрын
If you do the Oddish-Bellsprout tag team…I might suggest HeartGold/SoulSilver. Lots of fancy tools to overcome Johto's hostility towards the Grass type.
@benfisher961
@benfisher961 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and you can start with the oddish and catch the bellsprout on like the second route
@breezybeeje1379
@breezybeeje1379 2 жыл бұрын
Love the Pokémon challenges! Keep up the good work. Makes me want to go back to play the older game :)
@shadex08
@shadex08 2 жыл бұрын
If Oddish and Bellsprout are going to tag team, it's got to be Emerald! So many double battles.
@almightyk11
@almightyk11 2 жыл бұрын
Not as many as you would think, considering it's a new mechanic.
@Earthboundmike
@Earthboundmike 2 жыл бұрын
@@almightyk11 The double battle gym would be some pain though potentially.
@Heva1987
@Heva1987 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of an in joke with my mate. We hated Oddish in gen 1. and we would keep trading the same Oddish back and forth and we said it was the "lonely" Oddish as no one wanted it, lol. It was even better when natures was added in gen 3 and one was lonely, so we made it a thing to have a "lonely" Oddish on ours teams.
@anthonyizquierdo5467
@anthonyizquierdo5467 2 жыл бұрын
I’m looking forward to seeing which fossil he picks in mt. Moon. Cause he knows if he doesn’t tell us that we’ll all ask.
@phillipcraig1120
@phillipcraig1120 2 жыл бұрын
Lets face it, we'll all ask anyway.
@qweschuning
@qweschuning 2 жыл бұрын
Oh look, a thread with nothing but facts.
@ManuelHyuga1
@ManuelHyuga1 2 жыл бұрын
After all comments are good for the algorithm
@wesleyoldham4222
@wesleyoldham4222 2 жыл бұрын
One day, he'll not only tell us which fossil he picked, but he'll also resurrect Aerodactyl. That's sure to create even more comments, which will be good for the KZbin algorithm.
@Just_Jules_333
@Just_Jules_333 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Mah-Dry-Bread, I just wanted to thank you. Your videos have helped me through tough times, and the weekly (or sometimes biweekly) uploads actually helped give me some sense of structure. So.. just continue being your awesome self and don't let anyone push ya down, 'kay?
@Shadfos
@Shadfos 2 жыл бұрын
I would still love to see a Pokemon Crystal Clear run where you do the Kanto side since it's free-roam! I think that could be a unique way to make the Gen 2 Kanto gyms more challenging and interesting.
@yaminarthem1977
@yaminarthem1977 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest, whattageek need to prepare the team of stadium 2 in crystal clear (it can connect whit stadium as a original room!)
@luckybombcc1689
@luckybombcc1689 2 жыл бұрын
Poor Dux... always the HM slave and never the star 😔 Our Farfetch'd needs a spotlight challenge 😁
@Project129
@Project129 2 жыл бұрын
I am curious: After these single Pokémon Runs should he fight Mewtwo as a kind of 'End-Game' boss due to his massive stats? Could be fun, all things considered.
@Kanbei11
@Kanbei11 2 жыл бұрын
Not worth it IMO. Between poor gen 1 AI and save scumming you just reset until you win
@nustacular
@nustacular 2 жыл бұрын
Fighting the “Professor Oak” fight would be super interesting. It’s like fighting Red from Gen 2 but in Gen 1
@parzival-bo
@parzival-bo 2 жыл бұрын
For the record, I maintain that Oddish's 3DS ranged-attack animation is _glorious._ It just headbangs! Requesting Pokemon B2W2 with Only One Chinchou.
@SethTheSouthernWeirdo
@SethTheSouthernWeirdo 2 жыл бұрын
Oddish is a heavy metal fan(not really, but let's pretend it is).
@TogashiJack
@TogashiJack 2 жыл бұрын
Gen 1 AI sees that you're part Grass type, knows that Poison is super effective against grass and opts for Poison type moves. In this case, using Poison Powder despite not being applicable to a Grass/Poison type. It's the same reason why you can get some trainers into a loop of only using Agility against a Poison type
@awcartermedia
@awcartermedia 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting me know this exists! Definitely love your challenge vids and your content! Have a great weekend!
@aaronyoutube95
@aaronyoutube95 2 жыл бұрын
Gen 2 Heracross would be cool. It’s moveset in early gens is dreadful
@nataliswolf
@nataliswolf 2 жыл бұрын
In my head I imagined your oddish had a whole thing with erika's vileplume like ash's pikachu did with surge's raichu and the reason erika kept using poison powder was a manifestation of you winning through the power of love, friendship and anime logic.
@rjskillz92
@rjskillz92 2 жыл бұрын
That would be a cool run: "can I beat _____ with only weak moves" and the rule is you can use any mon but cant use moves with more than 40 base power.
@bobthegamingtaco6073
@bobthegamingtaco6073 2 жыл бұрын
Almost as funny as rhydon having leer and tail whip, is blastoise using bubble
@pokeperson1000
@pokeperson1000 2 жыл бұрын
Mareep vs Steelix is a narration that I'm looking forward to hearing about next week
@MrCaf7
@MrCaf7 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Mah-Dry-Bread ! Is there any chance you can make a “Can I beat Pokemon Gold with only one Stantler?” challenge ? Many thanks if you read this comment! Your French 🇫🇷 fan 😁
@SirAthiro
@SirAthiro 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah. I am SO SO SO looking forward to the Mareep run. Ampharos is my favorite Pokemon. 🥰 Also, you know this run was brutal when Petal Dance is a viable option.
@lawrencemelia2724
@lawrencemelia2724 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, for all the great pokemon videos. You're definitely one of my favourite poketubers.
@SirAthiro
@SirAthiro 2 жыл бұрын
I promised I would donate something, so here ya go. Keep up the good work.
@xXxTrickyNinjaxXx
@xXxTrickyNinjaxXx 2 жыл бұрын
With pokemon trying to use Poison Powder on an Oddish, Gen 1 had a weird ai glitch where the ai wouldn't recognise the second type of a pokemon. So if you bring any grass/poison type against a trainer, and that trainer's pokemon has a poison type move the ai will always pick that move. Even if it doesn't do anything (like poison powder doesn't)
@Alex-yl8dz
@Alex-yl8dz 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, I know it doesn't matter for this run, but I gotta know: which fossil did you take in Mt Moon?
@Deadflower019
@Deadflower019 2 жыл бұрын
I always forget how much I adore the oddish line, especially the little weed itself.
@GusterTails
@GusterTails 2 жыл бұрын
On our way through, I took the helix fossil. I knew if I didn’t say what I took you’d all ask. Actually now that I think about it everyone ask anyway. Comments are good for the KZbin algorithm.
@farnan92
@farnan92 2 жыл бұрын
I've done a solo Vileplume challenge and it was... AWFUL. Petal Dance is not Nidoking's Thrash. Not so much about BP (although it's an issue) but more that Grass has a LOT of resists and that you depend so much on it. In Yellow, my final strategy was: -Lorelei: Mega Drain Dewgong, Cloyster and Slowbro, Body Slam Jynx, Petal Dance Lapras. -Bruno: Don't use Petal Dance until Onix 2. -Agatha: One of the two that May be better in Yellow. Reason: Confusion Glitch. How? Remove Mega Drain por Mimic. Use Mimic on Gengar 1 and use Substitute. You are now inmune to primary confusion and secondary paralysis. Spam Petal Dance to all the Ghost (The resistance is only 1/2) and use Body Slam on the non-Ghosts. Evade being confused with no Substitute (if parafusion or sleepfusion without substitute reset). Beware of listas Gengar Hypnosis and Psychic move (it has Psychic). -Lance: Use Petal Dance first (does decent to Dragonair) and try to Mimic Ice Beam from Dragonite 2. Ice Beam the rest. -Champion: Remove Petal Dance for Solar Beam. -Mimic Earthquake from Sandslash, Solar Beam Sandslash (gen I Good AI is bugged and will ONLY use Poison Sting), Body Slam/EQ Alakazam, Sleep Exeggutor and Body Slam it, Solar Beam Cloyster/Vaporeon, EQ Flareon/Jolteon/Ninetales/Magneton.
@PokePuff05
@PokePuff05 2 жыл бұрын
Love your challenges!
@SomeGuy-ty7kr
@SomeGuy-ty7kr 2 жыл бұрын
I like your more "casual" takes on these runs. It's a nice alternative view on it.
@kalebschuller4709
@kalebschuller4709 2 жыл бұрын
JRose MDB and Carci all being associated in the same video makes my heart happy
@MahDryBread
@MahDryBread 2 жыл бұрын
They're the mans
@nextdoorneighbour
@nextdoorneighbour 2 жыл бұрын
You suggested an oddish and bellsprout run, so can you beat pokemon mystery dungeon red/blue rescue team with an oddish and bellsprout? Your character has to be either an oddish or bellsprout and your partner the other. You can't use any other followers, unless they're mandatory.
@justanoreo3928
@justanoreo3928 2 жыл бұрын
I refuse to surrender! Pokemon fire red with a swablu! (Also love your video, keep it up! :)
@lukaszbarszczak1775
@lukaszbarszczak1775 2 жыл бұрын
I get ridiculously excited when i see your videos in my queue, like literally wait all week to see one pop up. Thanks for all you do!
@auditect950
@auditect950 2 жыл бұрын
You might as well wanna start calling Arbok "Poison Onix".
@fredorlando8969
@fredorlando8969 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid as always. Every time you have a subtle/not so subtle wrestling Easter egg I pop a little bit haha.
@Gamerboy-mj1pg
@Gamerboy-mj1pg 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Always makes my Saturday to watch pokemon runs
@sharpefilms2287
@sharpefilms2287 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I don't know how many people understand your wrestling name references but I love them haha
@spoomoment
@spoomoment 2 жыл бұрын
Erika saw that Oddish was part grass type and went "oh don't mind if I do", completely ignoring both the poison type and the fact it was a status inflicting move. If you already had a status they wouldn't have done that though, which is silly.
@Articision
@Articision Жыл бұрын
Sabrinas fight makes sense though, AI looks at the first typing only, and then selects a random move that is super effective to that type (hence poison powder / leech life on the Venomoth), and the Alakazam probably doesn't have any moves that are super effective against grass, so it picks a random move.
@arliss35
@arliss35 2 жыл бұрын
My first time through blue versions elite four I got to lances last dragonite, I only had a zapdos with one more pp on a damaging move and a level 14 oddish. I flashed the crap out of dragonite after my last fly pp and i managed to somehow grind down the dragonite with absorb and cut on that poor little oddish. It dodged so many attacks thanks to the flashes. I was an ecstatic little kid.....right up until I learned there was a rival fight afterward. Seeing another oddish crush lance is all I need for the day.
@morgastic23
@morgastic23 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, seems like the gen 1 AI only takes into consideration a Pokemon's first typing for Super Effectiveness, and if it succeeds there it doesn't check the second type. So that's why Erika was spamming Poison Powder on you, because poison > grass, but it's a status move and doesn't affect you.. but the AI is pretty silly. Also which fossil did you take this time? I missed it.
@hay4664
@hay4664 2 жыл бұрын
Then why did Lance only use agility.
@morgastic23
@morgastic23 2 жыл бұрын
@@hay4664 because all of his moves are neutral against grass, so it goes on to check the second typing. It's not that gen 1 only checks the first type, it's that it checks that one first and if it's SE, it goes ahead with that move, if everything is neutral or NVE it goes on to check the second type.
@morrigankasa570
@morrigankasa570 2 жыл бұрын
You should've gotten rid of Stun Spore instead of Poison Powder:( Would really help you in the run Poisoning enemies with it until you get Toxic. Also would have taught Oddish Cut cause still does good physical damage without the recoil. If I was gonna do this challenge my moveset would be Mega Drain, Toxic, Cut, Acid. Additionally with all these challenges I feel you should use the PP Ups on your moves & gather ALL items.
@allanturmaine5496
@allanturmaine5496 2 жыл бұрын
Oddish v Bellsprout has to be gen 2. Falkner, Bellsprout Tower, the ice gym, the steel gym. The whole thing says "MDB would love every step of this game."
@GhGh-gq8oo
@GhGh-gq8oo 2 жыл бұрын
Gen 1 AI on some trainers will always use super effective moves no matter what. It only checks the first type when it runs. Oddish’s first type is grass so erika’s Pokémon will spam point type moves they have.
@thewizardoffoz4821
@thewizardoffoz4821 2 жыл бұрын
"Wing attack does as much damage as peck. That might make for A good run." That my friends, is what we call foreshadowing.
@blim8777
@blim8777 2 жыл бұрын
At the end, expecially for Agatha, mimic should be a great option
@arhernan2008
@arhernan2008 2 жыл бұрын
Hoppip and sunkern run would be interesting
@jj209th6
@jj209th6 2 жыл бұрын
I actually think it would've been harder if you'd replaced squirtle. Venusaur is also grass/poison and good AI won't force it to spam hypnosis in the battles before the champion unlike exeggcute, and while arcanine does know roar it could still use something else instead of being locked into rage the way charizard is prone to and I honestly think that makes up for charizard 4x resisting your Grass moves, especially since venusaur also 4x resists them and is bulkier. Still a great run, just something I thought about
@SuperCosmonaut64
@SuperCosmonaut64 Жыл бұрын
I just like to believe Blaine is an old old senile man who lance does not want to replace he wants him to retire on his own and he won't do it lol. Happy to see grandpa Blaine get a w
@lachlanmcgregor1357
@lachlanmcgregor1357 2 жыл бұрын
the gen 1 ai only sees the primary typing so she used poison powder becuase it is a poison type move so it is super effective against grass.
@lachlanmcgregor1357
@lachlanmcgregor1357 2 жыл бұрын
also the AI gives priority to status moves
@nerdshift8284
@nerdshift8284 2 жыл бұрын
I think mimic against Agatha would have allowed for an earlier victory. Sleep Powder + Dream Eater would have been amazing
@geofff.3343
@geofff.3343 2 жыл бұрын
I think Bruno might have thought Oddish's poison typing would be weak to a ground move.
@ExorSMRPG
@ExorSMRPG 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly a team run through Colosseum or XD would be really cool. Something like Machamp/Alakazam for brain & brawn. Could even try Mt. Battle if you wanted something extra
@AlfRiFProductions
@AlfRiFProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Fun run but here some optimizations u could have done: on the Agatha fight u could have used mimic to copy the first Gengar dream eater, in place of double edge or even petal dance... Than after thatyou could teach mega drain as the grass move to where you see fit for rhydon and dactyl, that way avoiding getting locked on Exeggutor
@randumo24
@randumo24 2 жыл бұрын
I thought Swords Dance would have been a better choice personally. I don't think it's really worth keeping a grass move when it's only really the more effective choice against 3 pokemon in the entire elite 4, and I imagine +6 would solve that issue.
@AlfRiFProductions
@AlfRiFProductions 2 жыл бұрын
@@randumo24 that would work too yeah but wouldn't solve the problem of trading headbutts with Agatha, plus it also could (maybe) make aerodactyl more of a hassle... so yeah i think your strategy works fine but its still brute forcing haha
@randumo24
@randumo24 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlfRiFProductions I mean, you don't really have a choice but to brute force things in this one. Still, you have the option in that fight to freely set up to + 6 on the dragonair since it will always use agility and then it should be an OHKO on Aerodactyl from that point. I'd imagine the +6 on top of the added benefit of the badge boost would be far more beneficial than having a grass move for the three rock types, really just Rhydon since the Onix are not very threatening.
@TheBlaziking666
@TheBlaziking666 2 жыл бұрын
If you're gonna wait for Riddle for a tag team run, do Oddish(or Cherubi) and Seviper together. Perhaps in RS or DP.
@Frog_Dogger
@Frog_Dogger 2 жыл бұрын
Oddish and Bellsprout in White. Have fun fighting N's Reshiram!
@florentan3746
@florentan3746 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks to Sword Dance and Mimic (and badge boost glitch), Oddish can beat the league at level 75, not 87.
@b.clarenc9517
@b.clarenc9517 2 жыл бұрын
Erika used Poison Powder because its type (Poison) is super effective on your first type (Grass). Gen 1 IA.
@Sapphire-qo2ij
@Sapphire-qo2ij 2 жыл бұрын
I think the reason they spammed poison powder is where the AI thinks that your grass type so it spams poison moves thinking its super affective.
@sayaztv
@sayaztv 2 жыл бұрын
7:45 the thing with Gen 1 AI is, it sees that you are grass type (it only sees the frist type) and it knows poison beats grass no matter that it's a status move. It is the same thing way you can bait agility from Lance with pokemon that are weak to psychic.
@morphstarchangeling8024
@morphstarchangeling8024 2 жыл бұрын
I think the shotty gen 1 ai made this run possible past Sabrina. The ai doesn't check dual typings for moves, so her venomoth just looked at your Grass typing and said, "Poison type go brr.".
@marcosviniciusferreira6453
@marcosviniciusferreira6453 2 жыл бұрын
I never expected the move Acid, on a Odish to be that good
@whitehawk7694
@whitehawk7694 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, that Celedon rival battle. Lol. Just gotta add these for the algorithm 😉. Love your work, hope all you pokemon challengers keep up the great work.
@glittereverywhere2038
@glittereverywhere2038 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe a Gen 2 Vulpix only run? I think a fire type run would be really cool, and Vulpix's stats aren't that great, but it does have some pretty good moves it can learn!
@kitsu1379
@kitsu1379 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who always uses Oddish as their grass type in Crystal, I can definitely relate to the pain in this run, and I have more then one pokemon on my team and can use items but damn is Oddish rough to use until it either evolves into Gloom or is levelled up enough to get some half decent moves. The powders though, do make much easier work of Whitney's Miltank then a lot of other strategies I tried before I started using an Oddish as my go-to grass type in gen 2.
@theeducatedfool
@theeducatedfool 2 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid, I thought Absorb and Mega Drain had higher base powers than they actually did because I only seemed to use them on quad-week Pokémon when playing Gen 1. Also shoutout to that time I beat Erika as a kid with a level 12 Oddish because the Vileplume kept using Poison Powder.
@Frossboss05
@Frossboss05 2 жыл бұрын
I think the real question we're all asking is "Can MDB beat Pokemon Red with only one MissingNo?" Though I'm not sure randomizer would let you start game with it.
@danieldavies3092
@danieldavies3092 2 жыл бұрын
so gen 1 AI only reads your first type in the type chart order to calculate super effective damage, and gen 1 "good" AI will always use a super effective move if it can, even if that move isn't a damaging move. Poison Powder is a poison type move, Oddish is a Grass/Poison type, so the AI only reads the first type and thinks "Poison beats grass, use poison powder" before it registers that Poison resists Poison.This kind of interaction is why it's possible to softlock yourself at Lorelei in Red and Blue.
@jsterdawg72
@jsterdawg72 2 жыл бұрын
So I know most of these challenges are possible, and the real challenge is what level can it be done... It would kinda be neat at the end of the video to see how Oddish compares to other Pokemon/teams of the same game! So we could say Oddish is a more difficult challenge than, say, pidgey!
@dustinguidroz6040
@dustinguidroz6040 2 жыл бұрын
Platinum with a Journey to the West inspired team. You could use Infernape, a pig Pokémon, and a sandy Pokémon
@capnquark8782
@capnquark8782 2 жыл бұрын
I think the AI is prioritizing the first type (grass) in their move selection. So a poison type move being super effective prioritizes Poison Powder.
@sonicblaze24
@sonicblaze24 2 жыл бұрын
Save Riddle for a Venusaur run. That's, without a doubt, the pothead Pokémon
@KishoKitsune
@KishoKitsune 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly it still blows me away that Oddish learns Swords Dance via TM. Gen IV and beyond it makes more sense with the physical/special split, but before that Oddish just doesn't have many physical moves, even accounting for TMs/HMs.
@EtherealistEquinox
@EtherealistEquinox 2 жыл бұрын
My weekend doesn't go without a MDB Pokemon challenge, glad to hear you're back to doing it every week but don't stress yourself man ❤️
@SomeGuy712x
@SomeGuy712x 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, somehow I overlooked this episode appearing on Saturday. (I did have other things on my mind at the time.) Well, better late than never! (4:07) Which fossil did you take? I hear the eating block sprites are good for the Super Mario World hacking algorithm. (7:37) A Grass/Poison-type can easily breeze through Erika, because of her "good AI", so you were never in any real danger here. (7:53) Actually, they see Oddish's Grass-type, and think, "oh, I've got a Poison move, which will be super-effective, so I'd better use it", without even factoring in Oddish's other type or even considering whether the move even does damage. (13:17) Silly Psywave. Just what were the devs thinking when they created this move? And to think the TM for it is your reward for beating Sabrina, even though you can get the TM for Psychic for free from Mr. Psychic's house nearby, and before you even liberate the city from Team Rocket. (14:19) Actually, with moves like Wrap and Fire Spin in Gen. 1, you are allowed to use items in between the individual hits of those moves, as odd as it seems. (18:25) Interesting ID number of 33331. Funnily enough, in the most recent Pokémon hack I played, my ID number was 00008. (18:51) Oof, and if you're frozen, put to sleep, or trapped by a move like Wrap while you're in the middle of Thrashing or Petal Dancing, you can't even access your menu in between turns. You're totally hosed. (Not that you'd be using the menu for much during this kind of solo challenge run anyway.) (20:21) You mean level 81, not 82. (22:22) Since you have a Poison-type, of course most of the Lance fight will be a piece of cake, because of his "super-effective" Psychic-type Agility and Barrier moves. (25:00) And that's game! (26:13) Yeah, I can imagine Steelix being a pain for Mareep. If you had Ampharos or even Flaaffy, you could at least use Fire Punch on it, but Mareep doesn't have that option. Maybe hope you have Fire or Water for your Hidden Power type?
@shanoc5902
@shanoc5902 2 жыл бұрын
Small optimization thought- For Agatha you should have replaced Petal Dance with Mimic. If you wanted a grass move for afterwards you just replace Mimic with Mega Drain. The Rival only has 1 pokemon you want Petal Dance for who is 4x weak to it thus Mega Drain will work fine and it avoids you getting stuck in Petal Dance. Lance only has 2 pokemon who can even hit you but Sleep Powder seemed to handle them well (could also grab Icebeam for Aerodactyl with mimic, which would be stronger than Petal Dance due to being super effective). Having Mimic for Agatha however would let you grab Nightshade, Lick, or heck Dream Eater to combo with your sleep powder (and super effective healing to boot) giving you a tool to deal with her when Petal Dance no longer had any opponents who you'd want to use it against. Meanwhile Mega Drain is better than Petal Dance for the champion fight since you only want it for Rhydon who will for sure die to an effective 240 power Mega Drain (4x weakness+STAB), not to mention you get to heal, and you can immediately go into Acid against the next pokemon. Also for a Bellsprout/Oddish run... Maybe Heartgold/Soulsilver? With 'Sprout tower' being a thing a Johto game feels like a good fit to go for them but since you just did a gen 1 run with Oddish I don't think a gen 2 run would feel that different so moving onto the Gen 2 remakes seems like it might be a good fit. Gen 2 would also work since a lot was changed there, but I definately think Johto for Bellsprout/Oddish is the way to go.
@beme7442
@beme7442 2 жыл бұрын
So in gen 1, the opponents will only ever consider your primary typing. So the grass gym just saw you using a grass pokemon, which is why they use poison
@Acacius1992
@Acacius1992 2 жыл бұрын
Oddish line my favorite gen 1 Grass type with exeegutor. Even in yellow I pick it always over Bulbasaur xD
@Ktulus3
@Ktulus3 2 жыл бұрын
This run was fun. It gave me an idea though. You should do a gen 3 run of only one Seedot. Should prove quite challenging since it's only offensive level up moves are nature power, which is only sometimes offensive, and explosion. I've been following your content for several years now and you do a good job. Cheers!
@D3vil_Mir0ku
@D3vil_Mir0ku 2 жыл бұрын
Respect to you and Jrose for telling everyone to stop the hateful comments about you on his last video! Both of you guys are amazing and I hope y'all continue with what you guys do. Also still love the wrestling references
@haunter5271
@haunter5271 2 жыл бұрын
The madman finally did it. Nice run MDB!
@MagicCheetah
@MagicCheetah 2 жыл бұрын
If you haven't done it already, can you do platinum with only the 3 forms of wormadam, I think it could be really fun with their different types
@wackojacko1312
@wackojacko1312 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure if you’re aware now but, KZbin removed the email for a subscription upload thing a couple of years ago now. Another useful feature down the toilet.
@CuchilloMucho
@CuchilloMucho 2 жыл бұрын
Still think a run with one mew and no hm pokemon would be interesting, trying the balance good moves with the hms to get around
@the_vik_king
@the_vik_king 2 жыл бұрын
It's weird I still get bell notifications for a channel I haven't seen in a like 2 years
@xXxR3V3NxXx
@xXxR3V3NxXx 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen it posted yet, albeit haven't looked hard, but I think I heard a typo he may have overlooked. In first minute talking about move pool, he references solar beam then follows it with "Agenda doesn't have sunny day". I only point this out because it took me a minute to figure out what happened. Thought I was having a stroke. That being said, I treat that as finding a typo in a textbook. Doesn't effect anything, but makes me chuckle. Good work on the video as usual though, and keep them coming.
@MahDryBread
@MahDryBread 2 жыл бұрын
"A Gen that doesn't have sunny day"
@Promatim
@Promatim 2 жыл бұрын
So I misheard your intro as "Pokemon Emerald with only 8 Gen moves." That might be an interesting run! IDK what exactly it means, but it sounds neat.
@modelomegatyler
@modelomegatyler Жыл бұрын
7:50 honestly, i don't think the a.i. even registers you as poison type. from what i've heard other poketubers state about gen 1, the a.i. just checks it's move types against your pokemon and if the primary type is weak to something, in this case poison powder due to being a poison "attack" on a grass type, it doesn't bother checking the secondary type and just uses an attack that's supposed to be strong to your primary type rather then checking the secondary type to make sure it's effective.
@Rjthewolf
@Rjthewolf 2 жыл бұрын
judicious use of swords dance and the badge boost glitch would've let you do this at a little lower level xD
@servien9683
@servien9683 2 жыл бұрын
With that nickname in every battle all I hear is One of a Kind playing in my head lol
@dakotashroom5401
@dakotashroom5401 2 жыл бұрын
An Oddish and Bellsprout tag team would be very entertaining, in a good way, in Emerald.
@rascaltheraccoon
@rascaltheraccoon 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like a duo Bellsprout-Oddish run would be possible in X or Y! Later gen runs are always interesting bc you have more tools, and duo/team runs I find kind of cute? I love watching them anyway :)
@linkmastr001
@linkmastr001 2 жыл бұрын
If you do the two Pokemon run, pick a game with double battles so you can use both, like Emerald!
@Skywolve1998
@Skywolve1998 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say if you were to do a tag team run involving the oddish line make it bellosom and vileplume. And do it in hoenn so they get to fight tate and lizza together.
@rossi1990
@rossi1990 2 жыл бұрын
Love the shout out for J Rose. Best part of the weekend evening watching these
@NakazoraGen
@NakazoraGen 2 жыл бұрын
So, I know the Mareep run is probably already done, but... I want to offer something, in case. Fire Punch TM from Goldenrod. Mareep can learn it. There's your answer for Jasmine.
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