Mega Man X6 - Part 4: Hold Down to LIVE.

Welcome to Part 4 of Mega Man X6! Mavericks BE GONE. High Max BE GONE. Dynamo? BE GONE.
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[@TheChaoticBlur]

6:12 Ted Perfectly timed that groan with Sigma's shocked expression. It's amazing!

[@MegaMan679]

yes!

[@jetlox]

that wasn't Ted it was Johnny's groan

[@TheChaoticBlur]

jetlox *Cleans eardrums and hears again* Nope... Definitely Ted from what i can hear.I may be wrong i dunno.

[@TheAwesomeHyperon]

Reshiger there actually was an issue where super sonic became a separate evil entity

[@lucasmartinez5703]

"Spawns a bunch of Storm Eagles." I can really see why you hate that boss Johnny.

[@esmooth919]

Lucas Martinez Dude, that boss is *paltry,* compared to the level he resides in.

[@FalconBonk12]

Hearing Ted just bring logic and reasoning into the plot of this game is just so futile.

[@Vercsase]

IIRC, Metal Shark Player's name is supposed to be taken as Metal Shark Prayer thanks to the transliteration of L's and R's from Japanese. The Prayer being in reference to his ability to "resurrect" robots that are discarded in the recycling plant level or whose DNA he has.

[@vocalcalibration8033]

And now he's a... card shark?

[@MrLuizilla]

+Vercsase That... somehow makes it worse.

[@MicharionAQ]

+Vercsase Should see Breath of Fire 2 the translation so bad they did it twice and it was still terrible. In fact some consider the GBA translation even worse than the one on the SNES.

[@Vercsase]

+MicharionAQ But can it beat the "War of -Rangnarok- Kangaroo" from Tales of Phantasia GBA?!?

[@MicharionAQ]

Vercsase Well in both versions the name of a party member instead has a placeholder. That and which sounds better "The Fatal Child" or the "Destined Child,?"

[@DaimoHope]

Reploid DNA could be the individual reploids source code. Which would make a lot of sense

[@Daniel96Z]

+Cmckerracher but then it should be called data, robots having dna is all kinds of stupid, and the sad thing is that i think that dna bullshit was done by the digimon 5 and casshern series too, it sounds freaking stupid, they were trying to make us feel like reploids are entirely human, which would be cool if capcom explored what meant to be a maverick, a rebel ai but as always a missed oportunity, sorry i didn't put capital letters, my keyboard is damaged

[@GoGojiraGo]

@@Daniel96Z Transformers does it, too, and has been since the early 90s. And why wouldn't living things have some kind of genetic code?

[@papershadow]

@@GoGojiraGo Don't some iterations of Transformers also depict them as techno-organic lifeforms of a sort? I recall Beast Wars for example, the Maximals and Predacons constantly fight over these stasis pods that hold essentially "factory setting" Bots that form themselves on first waking up, which suggests there is a more complex creation process than simply throwing the robot parts together. The X series it's more bizarre to call the Reploid code "DNA" because within the story context, they are artificial beings that are the product of human creation or otherwise assembly, rather than having a natural/genetic reproduction cycle.

[@GoGojiraGo]

@@papershadow Starting with the Marvel Generation 2 comic, Transformers were shown to have their own genetic code: CNA-standing variously for Cyber/Nano Algorithms and/or Cybernucleic Acid-is the genetic material that determines what Transformers are like. Tinkering with this material can be dangerous and can have long-lasting, negative effects. CNA contains a Transformer's hard-coded design schematics, which, like genetic data, appear to be stored in the spark itself. It is sometimes known as Sourcecode. The organic DNA in the Beast Era was mostly contained in the organic parts of their bodies, but became fused with their CNA in Beast Machines, making them into new technorganic lifeforms. Though the Beast Era is the only continuity to do this. As for Mega Man X, Dr. Light created X to be the first truly free will robot, independent and his own living being, and it's very likely that Light created DNA Data to help facilitate that, making X a living machine as opposed to a preprogrammed robot with a premade personality like the Robot Masters. Wily copied it when he found out about Light making X and incorporated it into Zero, and the Dr. Cain did the same after studying X to create the Reploids. Though since Cain was a paleobotanist, not a roboticist, he couldn't replicate it completely, especially the suffering circuit X possessed, which is why some Reploids went Maverick even before Zero and the Wily Virus were awakened.

[@joe88john]

My favorite fail line is Welcome to die. I love these bad direct translations.

[@reallygoodbee]

They can't just rebuild robots in the X series because they each have a unique Control Chip, which is the robot's brain. The Control Chip contains the robot's personality, memories, and other important data. Without it, you really might as well just build a new robot, because you're not getting the old one back.

[@HunterForHire422]

@@Mr1o1X maybe because he was the creator and X isn't exactly like other reploids? Idk light became an AI at that point and I stopped trying to figure it out

[@ratcicleking]

@@Mr1o1X Depending on the ending X doesn't get that badly damaged to begin with If you're talking about the end where X is just a head until Light saves him, remember, X couldn't remember Zero, so his brain was still damaged somewhat. As for Zero dying in X5, he states during his own ending his memories are leaking and something in his brain is failing, implying his control chip got damaged, thus he'd be unsalvageable

[@GoGojiraGo]

@@ratcicleking In X5's bad ending Dr. Light deliberately rewires X to reject any memory and mention of Zero.

[@shis1988]

@@ratcicleking unless he hides himself to repair himself*

[@NewZen41]

Years late, but remember that this game also established (In supplemental material, mind you...) that reviving Reploids without consent from official organizations/government is pretty much illegal. Hell, if Gate didn't get in trouble for the shit that happened in this game, he certainly would've been hunted/branded a Maverick for bringing back his (Wrongfully killed-off....well, most of them) Creations.

[@CaptainL95]

To be fair, there is an in-universe explanation as to why they can't just rebuild Zero, or X for that matter. Both of them are highly advanced Reploids built by dead people, so no one else understands how they work.

[@sonicvsmariorandom]

On top of that, Nightmare Zero's a failed attempt to recreate the real deal. While he does have similar moves to the real Zero, he's completely unstable to the point where the Z-Saber is his weakness and he rambles about different things depending on where you encounter him for the fight.

[@nyronarnold6024]

They're not Reploids, they're Robot Masters! Built 100 years ago! All Reploids were taken and inspired by X!

[@esmooth919]

Captain L i almost 4got about that, but that kind of shit is EZ 2 4get when they drop, like ½ the story elements between games. Shit, the writing is almost as bad as Akira Toriyama circa Dragon Ball Z.

[@hostiusasinhostilityhostil7853]

...which completely falls apart when you consider X2. Dr. Cain literally just had Zero's control chip, got X to retrieve Zero's parts, and just brought him back from there. No schematics, nothing - and it's not like you could just slot Zero's parts together like one of those kits, otherwise X would have done it. It clearly required him to actually rebuild Zero, which worked that time but apparently wasn't on the table at the end of X5. Maybe it was the lack of Zero's control chip that prevented him from being rebuilt by the Maverick Hunters...? I don't know, they never actually seem to take X2's entire plot into account.

[@papershadow]

@@hostiusasinhostilityhostil7853 X2 at least the implication is that they needed a bunch of intact Zero parts and his robot "brain" to rebuild him, rather than being able to manufacture a new body for him from scratch. There's also a matter I think is getting missed in that there's a difference between reconstructing the body and restoring the consciousness of the character in it. For a main distinction, Copy X from the Zero series is "A Mega Man X unit", but he obviously lacks the memories and moral fiber of the original Mega Man X. It's why the Maverick Virus is a thing, since the idea behind Reploids is developing distinct enough personalities as to resemble people, rather than having pre-programmed behaviors and patterns like the Classic series Robot Masters.

[@kratosgow342]

I agree with Clement here the Nightmare gimmick in this game is not a main problem is the level design I swear everytime you play this game you'll see a lot of spike in every stage combine with bad enemy placement and nightmare gimmick make the game unbearable to play on some people it's not like Dark Souls while that game is difficult it's fair to player but this is not it's difficult for sake of being difficult it's like Kaizo Megaman X game that's not ROM hack.

[@adamdostie4483]

Fun fact: It is possible to encounter high max in a state where damaging him is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE!

[@symphomaniac]

My favorite dialogue in this game is from Dynamo to Zero "You must be busy dying so many times"

[@Valentinexyz__]

Another example of bad translation in this game is during the little exchange before the High Max fight. Zero says "What is your intention"? When "What do you mean"? Would suffice?

[@Mateoski97]

Michael Foster I think he meant so say "What do you want?"

[@Fanatic_Foremem]

I kindof wish the there was a version of zero wing where everyone talks normally but C.A.T.S. still has his speech patterns as a form of verbal tick, you know, kindof like how Shodan from system shock has that voice glitch where she says everything 3 times in an overlap. I always like it when robots have those sorts of mannerisms. Makes it clear you can reason with them.

[@GodOfThings]

6:15 That's pretty much a reaction to Metal Shark Player's stage in general, not just with the Nightmare Blocks.

[@CrimsonMoonM]

It's as Clement says, each Nightmare effect can only affect two specific stages. Moreover, each stage can have two types of nightmare effects in them and only one of them can be active at a time. The red highlight is what marks whenever the effect changes from one to the other.

[@FunBox.]

The blocks that appear in Metal Shark Player's stage due to Ground Scaravich aren't indestructible. Depending on the color, there is a special weapon that can destroy it.

[@DoubleATam]

His name was Metal Shark P*r*ayer in japan, which I think isn't an error like Clash Man is, it's because he brings things back to life. But it's a bit of a stretch and might count as a religion reference, so the name was just kept unchanged.

[@DavCube]

10:43 FINALLY SOMEONE DOES IT RIGHT!! Like, okay, there's literally no reason I should be so invested in regards to that meme, but when the entire joke of that meme is the bad english, yet every time I hear someone quote it they don't do so accurately, it gets just a liiiiiittle bit irritating after a while. It's like all the Street Fighter buffs yelling out "Hadookin."

[@blkknightrutter1]

Wouldn't it be funny if they misspelled Blizzard Wolfang's name like they did with Blizzard Buffalo? Billzard Woflang.

[@smoke072]

If I recall MSP will summons (when his health is low) Sting Chameleon, Magna Centipede, & Blast Hornet. Shame he doesn't do more summons than one at a time.

[@GoGojiraGo]

Ted, they can rebuild the bodies, but if their personality core/chip/whatever is destroyed then they can't be fully revived. It's like if your computer gets smashed up, you can rebuild it but if your motherboard/hard drive is destroyed then all of its uniqueness is lost.

[@MrGamernova]

+GoGojiraGo What about Sigma, Vile, & Zero then?

[@MMetelli]

+MrGamernova They hid themselves to repair themselves.

[@MrGamernova]

MMetelli A mechanic did it.

[@GoGojiraGo]

***** Sigma's true form is the Sigma Virus, it can jump between bodies and survive their destruction. Zero's personality chip was taken by X after he died in X1. The X-Hunters had his body pieces, which X recovered and Cain revived him. That's also the only canonical death Zero had in the X series. Vile... not sure. It's likely his personality chip was recovered after his deaths as well.

[@MrGamernova]

GoGojiraGo & with that why only him? Wouldn't it be more cop like for X & Zero to attack in non lethal ways that disable the robot without damaging their personality chips so they can be repaired latter? I mean it is possible as Vile & Zero have proven.

[@macblackledge6121]

Metal Shark Player was suppose to be named Metal Shark Prayer, this was meant to relate to his ability to resurrect dead Mavericks through prayer or something like that, apparently some things got mixed up during the translation for the English version for his name.

[@hostiusasinhostilityhostil7853]

Metal Shark Prayer is still a stupid name, though. Maybe Metal Shark Cleric would have worked better - the game was on the PlayStation, so no worries about censorship there... Metal Shark Necromancer? Metal Shark Priest? ...Holy Roman Emperor Metal Shark?

[@aionicthunder]

That really brings a new meaning to “living on a prayer”

[@Zeromaru42]

@@aionicthunder Yeah blame the fact that R and L have the same sound in Japanese so the only way to know if it's L or R is by specifically knowing the exact context the person used it in. Which as you can guess is a nightmare for Translators because half the time since there's no difference, no one knows either way. The only reason you know it's Zero in Japanese is because of the Number but even then it's ambiguous. There's a ton of shit in both English and Japanese that translates very weirdly or inconsistently sometimes. Both English and Japanese are similar in that they both have stuff that shouldn't exist in them but do because there's no particular way to say every single word.

[@NanaKyoto]

Fun fact: They were originally going to translate the game better in the X Collection, but decided against it, for some dumb reason we may never understand.

[@KyanbuXM]

+Nana-Kyoto Oh they were going to do more then just re translate it. Originally the plan was for them to completely re balance X6 as well. A lot of changes were going to be made from the level design, damage, the soul system, to the Bosses and weapons. As well as a bunch of bonuses for the collection. And re dubbed Voice Acting for X4 through X6 done by the same group that did X8. The reason all of this was dropped? At the time, Inafune was planing on remaking all of the X games from X1 to X6. All part of the MM:MHX series. He told them to drop the changes they were going to make so that they could all be done in his MM:MHX games for the PSP. He figured since the Remakes were being made, there was no point in changing the roms of the original games. And that the bonus content from the collection being instead added on to the remakes would be a better choice. Unfortunately the MM:MHX series was canceled due to the poor sales of the first game. Resulting in a lack luster collection and X6 only receiving mild fixes. Believe it or not this is the re translation cut short before they could edit it. The PS1 version is even worse.

[@korruption6]

+KyanbuXM Inafune fucked up bad there. That's a big reason I didn't back his Mighty No. 9 Kickstarter. I'm pretty happy with my decision. =]

[@papershadow]

"Don't fix this version because I'm going to fix it in a remake later." Even if we wait for a hypothetical MHX 6, that would still be almost a decade after when the X collection came out, assuming 1 game per year.

[@Mateoski97]

The translations are still the same even in the X Legacy Collection.

[@ghal416]

14:22 Or one could look at it as Zero killing himself rather than going through the rest of the game. Can't say I blame him lol

[@onesonicguy]

FUCK. THIS. GAME. Personally, I never really had a problem with Metal Shark Player's(that's still a really odd name)stage...with the Ultimate Armor cheat on. But even with the Ultimate Armor, it doesn't make the game less bullshit. I'm also surprised that Johnny didn't use the invincibility glitch with Zero. Would've made that stage a lot easier to deal with.

[@Blayne06]

+onesonicguy Speaking of the Ultimate Armor Cheat, I did an X-only run of this game (I Got Zero as well in an alternate save, but didn't use him). High Max, when struck by the Infinite Nova Strike, gets stunned, but never knocked down. End result? The Nova Strike chews through his health like crazy.

[@dmas-uncut8450]

Sam Diamond: Well now we know how the game was translated.

[@Lord_of_Lilligant]

The Mavericks that Metal Shark Player can 'revive' to attack you are Sting Chameleon, Magna Centipede, and Blast Hornet. Also I think it's a result of how the Japanese can't say the letter 'L' but it should be Metal Shark Prayer. Name still sounds terrible but it does kinda make a bit more sense considering his actions in battle.

[@HitsujiMamoru]

To Ted (or anyone interested in translation errors and trivia lol) : The name's Metalshark Prayer actually, and that's because of his resurrection gimmick : he's praying for the dead. It sounds stupid to me as well (and I'm usually cool with that kind of stuff) but that's the concept.

[@raikohzx4323]

I'm surprised no one brought up the fact that in the first part of Metal Shark Player's stage, that Ride Armor you can use for like ten seconds before it gets blocked can actually be left up-high and block the crusher for that first portion of the stage. Also, PLAYER is probably a mistranslated PRAYER, which would make sense given his resurrection of Reploids. And despite them being 'robots', the later installments in the series go out of their way to vaguely establish Reploids are one-of-a-kind in soul and that somehow X and Zero can even sense this shit, particularly eachother and Sigma. If anything, Metal Shark Player just creates copies via their DNA, or blueprint structure specifically, without the actual soul attached. It's also why Iris is dead for good, seeing as mixing her soul with Colonel's basically fried and destroyed her soul.

[@Team_Orchid]

All your Bass are belong to us.

[@maintrain527]

You have no chance to survive make your time.

[@williamwhite2568]

Josiah Andrews what you say

[@Comkill117]

Somebody set up us the bomb.

[@smugsneasel]

I wish that Metal Shark Player's desperation attack would have recreated Iris as well. Just to screw with Zero since he already knows about him. Phoenix Magnion from Megaman Zero 2 does a similar thing to Metal Shark Player where he briefly brings back Vile, Agile, Bit and Colonel to attack Zero.

[@sebastiangamez7613]

that would be a nice touch

[@Scorpionspear77]

Yeah. Or hell, why stop there. If you're X, he resurrects Classic Mega Man!

[@Smellbringer]

+Smug Sneasel Vile did that in Project X Zone.

[@Scorpionspear77]

+TheWadesmellbringer he did? Cool!

[@Smellbringer]

+Scorpionspear77 Yeah, and you'd think you'd have to spend the entire Chapter trying to rescue Iris, but in a twist you actually have to rescue Zero.

[@bladeslinger71113]

FYI- At the time the same Japanese team the made X6 also translated the game. Essentially, Native Japanese speakers translated the game to a non-native language.

[@MMetelli]

Also, that jump in MSP's stage can be made with X, but it requires Wolfang's weapon, dasher, speedster, blade armor, and good aim.

[@esmooth919]

That's too fucking much!

[@symphomaniac]

I thought all you needed was Speedster and Blade armor. That's all I had anyway. Regardless, forcing you to complete Blade Armor to get Damn near everything else is stupid

[@Knuxfan24]

There actually is a pattern to how the Nightmare Effects work. However, despite Alia mentioning that Red stages have them. That ain't true. They persist. Entering one stage will apply it's Nightmare Effect to the linked stages (Blaze Heatnix to Blizzard Wolfang for example), & that Nightmare Effect STAYS until it's overridden by another one (Infinity Mijinion to Blizzard Wolfang? I think that's what causes the hologram X/Zero thing). Also: One of my friends manage to defeat High Max with only the Down Attack thing that fucks over that rope section.

[@DarkEinherjar]

Well, you kinda DO need Blaze Heatnix's nightmare effect to be there... otherwise, the path that leads to all those wolves and items is blocked by spikes and is inaccessible. But yeah, I agree that the items', wolves' and nightmares' placements are bullshit. Also, when the ice materializes where you are, it IS instant kill - it counts as crushing. And speaking of crushing... oh, boy...

[@ShamankingXYZ]

A note about the localization for this game, the maverick names are all entirely untranslated to the point where they sound like concept names.

[@Bluedino152]

Archie had a reference to Fleetway super sonic when Sonic was in space and on one of the planets he visits, some gem he touches creates an evil super powerful copy. Normally, he was just a more powerful sonic even in the early days.

[@chrismelton704]

*gets beat to near death* "i just cant win. Bye, Zero!" if his profile is anything to go off of, dynamo dosent have a care in the world

[@JioTheAegis]

You can cheese the first crusher segment by moving the Mobile Suit as close to the top of the screen then jumping out.

[@teeman9266]

He could be Metal Shark "Prayer", i mean he does revive dead bosses right? Also like his design, his boots look like...gaping sharks...

[@scrapmetal37]

Is Zero even crouching, or is he *squishing*?

[@Jericho398]

Actually if you collect the Seven Chaos Emeralds of Thoraxia (the Red Emeralds)(Pre-Reboot) Damn you Penders. Your super status manifests into its own being and destroys everything in sight.

[@Scorpionspear77]

High Max is actually really cool in my opinion. Kinda wish we didn't have to kill him.

[@Jirachibi25]

Said it before and ill say it again, i feel games need lives. If you die in Rayman origins, you dont get punsished. You justr continue from where you left off, nothing bad happens. In the newer Megaman-X games, nothing happens and you dont get punished. If I know that dying will mean i lose NOTHING except "Oh no, i have to go back a tiny bit!" i wont care if i die or not. If i know losing a life means i could get a game over and do the whole stage over again, then ill try my best to do better. I just feel without lives, theres little to no punishment and it makes the game way too easy. We need more of a punishment for losing than going back a few iches :P When i have lives, my mindset is "Okay i should not die" if i DONT have lives my mindset is "Whats the point in trying? If i die its not like something will happen"

[@oguzhangungor9117]

+Jira Agreed.

[@granixo]

+Jira Well in X8 You can only hold on to have 5 lives (3 on Hard mode, Infinite on EASY) and if you lose them all, then you gotta restart the level...

[@Busterman64]

I think it depends on the game itself. Having lives does make things more challenging, but in games like this...it would make the game more frustrating. If it's a game challenging game that's fair, fun, and you are capable of doing it in one go as long as you are careful, then yes, lives are good to make your actions count. In a game like Rayman Origins, where trial and error seems to be a big thing in the game, no lives makes it more easier to bare when you don't have to worry about really hard level( I'm looking at you Land of the livid dead). You're just focusing on beating it(...eventually) and not fearing starting the whole level over again (and depending on the level's length will determine how much it may dishearten you when you start all the way over). Games with lives and without lives can work, it just needs to structured in the right way so you feel accomplished afterwards either way! ;3

[@esmooth919]

at least in both Megaman 8 & x4, whenever you got a game over, you had to go back to the beginning of that half of the stage. X5 and 6, idk. X8, u have to start the stsge ALL over again when you lose all your lives (retry chips)

[@oguzhangungor9117]

Lives are needed.

[@ThatEntityGirl]

The nightmare multi-colored blocks in Metal Shark Player's stage can actually be destroyed with certain special weapons depending on the color of the block.

[@Derek_Nino]

+Entity1037 Those blocks are Ground Scaravich's nightmare so they can be destroyed with Scaravich's power.

[@DoubleATam]

My friend is telling me that a stage turning red only means that the stage's nightmare effect has become the effect caused by the last stage you beat. The effect then permanently stays until it's replaced by another stage's effect (even if it's a revisit and you exit the stage). It's confusing as balls.

[@DoubleATam]

In THEORY, basically, if out of Ground Scaravich and Blizzard Wolfang, the latest one you beat was Ground Scaravich (no matter what was inbetween), Metal Shark's stage will have the bullshit blocks. You can also just peek at and exit Blizzard Wolfang's stage to make sure it'll be ice instead of blocks.

[@MrCJHardcore]

Blaze Heatnix and Blizzard Wolfang are the only two Mavericks in this game that I like. What the hell is Shield Sheldon suppose to be? A snail? A clam? What the hell?! And the Blaze Heatnix effect can go fuck itself. The only other Nightmare effects yet to be seen are the colored blocks (destroyed by Ground Scaravich's weapon) and the metal blocks (dstroyed by MSP's weapon), which is one way to get to the alternate route for Heatnix's stage.

[@dandelarosa64]

Took me a while to realize the thumbnail isn't new fan art but an actual scene from the game.

[@hollywood2671]

They can't just rebuild the Reploids. Every Reploid has a Control Chip, that houses their personality data, their memories, essentially everything that makes them them. If its damaged at all, that Reploid is gone forever. You might as well just build an entirely new one. This is why they can't rebuild Iris or Colonel or General, because their Control Chips are gone.

[@MisterX867]

Wow I'm surprised that Johnny did not mention how High Max gets incredibly annoying when he starts to just say THIS MOVE! THIS MOVE! THIS MOVE! over and over until you defeat him.

[@MastaGambit]

+MisterX867 DESU BORU DESU BORU DESU BORU DESU BORU DESU BORU DESU BORU

[@mastergalladetech]

Wait until we get to X7... Must...repress...

[@MisterX867]

Burn....

[@mastergalladetech]

Pat D Smith Oh, right... That guy... Come to think of it, all the bosses in that game have a phrase they constantly repeat.

[@thencsmaster4343]

2:04 maybe that's why he's not in Smash Bros.

[@BaconMinion]

In X5, the Heart Tanks that require the Gaea Armor to get are a back up. Since X and Zero don't share them, you can collect a number of with Zero, then lose him, which also removes those upgrades. In that case, you can then collect the Gaea Armor pieces and get the Heart Tanks for X, thus expanding his health pool.

[@GoGojiraGo]

You forgot to mention that if you go to high Max without at least one special weapon then you're completely fucked. The only way to damage him is to hit him with a special weapon then normal attack combo. Metal Shark Player is supposed to be Metal Shark Prayer, playing off of how he analyzes DNA Data and can revive dead Reploids. And while his stage is one of the worst in the X series, the music for it is AWESOME.

[@circledude2362]

Metal shark player was ment to be called Metal shark Prayer. Due to his power to revive dead reploids/mavericks

[@DevasiaMentalityGaming]

Funny thing is that one of the NPCs in MMX Command mission brings up the fact that a "certain character" could easily be rebuilt after they're "gone", so there's no reason to fuss about it, only to point out right after that rebuilding them wouldn't restore their memory or personality so it's kind of a moot point. Granted that's never been a problem for X or Zero, or the mavericks of this game, so who the fuck knows...

[@JobyRetrograde]

This is the best Kirby: Planet Robobot video.

[@zatchbells]

those who complain about lives being in video games are just admitting they are terrible at video games because if you are confident in your ability to play video games then it should not bother you that they still exist in modern video games

[@MDelarosa714]

So no one talks about fire in an ice level?

[@DoctorZero986]

I can see why people hate Metal Shark Player's stage, but I honestly think it's the best level in the game in that it doesn't feel as cheap as other levels to me. Most of the difficulty in this stage is just being patient and waiting for the right time to move ahead. As long as you're a little patient, I don't think the stage is too bad. The only real cheap difficulty is, as you bring up, the fact that ducking in some of the crusher segments doesn't protect you if you let go of the down button, and some of the nightmare enemies are placed in evil locations towards the end.

[@SilverKnightGalahad]

I think the reviving reploids might be a taboo thing or something. Like, reploids are considered "people" right? At least, that what I think people think in the world if MegaMan. So, if a reploid were to die, and someone else found or still had whatever was in them that basically was their personalities(like Zero in X2) then rebuilding them would mean making the same person, as they still have the same personality and such. But if they didn't have the chip or whatever, then they are making something that looks like the same person, but isn't. Maybe you can program them to have similar personalities and actions and such, but I don't think people would be okay with someone that looks like their friend, is similar to their friend, but isn't quite their friend.

[@MrGamernova]

+SilverKnightGalahad So why is everyone a ok with Zero then?

[@Revalstarcraft]

Jonny according to the wiki darkness is activated by doing Infinity Mijinions stage so if you left that til last you'd never get it And it can only be in Commander Yanmark and Rainy Turtloid's stages

[@vocalcalibration8033]

Ranga Banga's older cousin....... Hokey pokey.

[@Lord_of_Lilligant]

+VocalCalibration Well, better that than Bangarang.

[@Hildragon]

i really love it when Johnny edits stuff, oh god im laughing to hard.

[@TheBigMan0706]

his stage might be bullshit difficult, but Metal Shark Player's stage has an awesome theme

[@granixo]

+TheBigMan0706 But it gets repetitive... :C

[@symphomaniac]

It's one of the most boring tracks in the series to me. Now Commander Yammark...THAT'S how you do calm stage music

[@granixo]

***** Don´t forget about Blizzard Wolfang! :)

[@RevShadow_508]

been watching this and I'm wondering if you guys are planing on getting to ZX and ZX advent after the zero series is eventually finished :P

[@KyanbuXM]

+RevShadow_508 Most likely yes. They confirmed that they are doing at least most of the 2D games. Only series that's probably going to be skipped is battle Network and Star Force. Due to none of them having much if any experience with those games out side of Nathan.

[@Vaatacious]

With the first part of the first area of Metal Shark Player's stage, you can dismount the ride armor on a pile of garbage and get the crusher stuck for that entire part until you reach the lower level. It helps pick up the pace in the begining. I play this game more often then I should..

[@xan220]

Nah the Blocks can be destroyed too with Zero's Up+Attack thing, but only if they're brown blocks. If they're any other color, you just push em around. And the Silver blocks get destroyed by his Down+Special that you get from Metal Shark Player.

[@AlluMan96]

I don't think lives are as meaningless as some make them out to be. It really depends on the type of game that you're trying to make. They aren't very useful in a platformer, but in something like a SHMUP, it'd be hard to really design points of restarting without lives. Yeah, you can argue "Just put a health-bar instead of lives," but lives really are just glorified hit points in most SHUMPS and that change could be potentially damaging more than helpful to some games. In something like Touhou Project, losing a life is a clean slate. You refresh your bombs upon dying, either giving you a fresh salvo when your out or putting you back to square 1 when you hold more than the default. It's a mechanic that works as a feature. Even the restart from a designated point is something that affects how you play, as your power-ups scatter on the screen where you died, and just tanking a hit would make that mechanic meaningless. The game designs around this system and something like losing bombs whenever you take damage instead making it a death would just feel more arbiturary. Like any mechanic, lives work if they're designed as an intigrated part of the experience, and the reason they feel so tacked-on is because they rarely are properly integrated into the game's design. Also, I think what they mean with "Robot DNA" is essentually like a coding pattern that's unique to that particular machine. Even with somehting as complex as Reploid A.I, I'd imagine there's some kind of foundation that influences it's learning patterns and potential capabilities (Like, I'd think certain robots can be more adaptable than others depending on how well it's core-programming is). That's what they mean by that. Just like human are formed from their genes, Reploids grow through their foundation-code.

[@Ultrapyre]

Does Capcom even have an editor? Someone to look through the script once and comment on flaws in writing? Like I know Capcom is not known for good writing but yeesh! Even I can write a better plot than they do. I won't be surprised if they simply used Google Translate just to save time. But well, since they're not showing it off here, I do say that locking Gate's backstory behind an absurd 3000 nightmare soul paywall is flat out horrid design. Also gives Alia a bit of personality beyond 'Omochao'

[@esmooth919]

Ultrapyre this game came out before Google Translate existed. And even then, Google translate would have done a better job.

[@jordantolkar2586]

Not sure if anyone pointed it out, but if you get the Gate Backstory cutscene for reaching 3000 Nightmare souls, that's another Shortcut to Gate's lab. I actually got that when I played the game myself on the Legacy Collection.

[@harrycarson6526]

FUN FACT In japan Metal Shark Player was original called Metal Shark Prayer and before Johnny killed Metal Shark Player he was about to summon a dead Maverick but he killed him before the summoning completes so yeah.

[@robertlupa8273]

3:03 This is some Billzard Buffalo-level ice physics right there.

[@blackwind677]

I've never had MUCH trouble with Metal Shark Player's stage, but I just get bored with most of the waiting....

[@granixo]

+blackwind677 Well John could have skipped a whole fourth of the stage by letting the ride armor on top of the trash pile...

[@blackwind677]

***** Honestly, I would've never done if I haven't seen Clement's lp of it before hand.

[@Aisubun]

There is actually an evil Super Sonic in the archie comics but it's like a weird clone thing that happened when Sonic used 7 red Chaos Emeralds or something

[@ScatterbrainPete]

0:05 AVGN? Is that you?

[@williamwhite2568]

Piotr Wojciechowski no because this isn't Castlevania 2 Simon's quest

[@RidleyXX45]

I lost it at 6:12 X'D. I know the pain ALL to well.

[@Mateoski97]

RidleyXX45 That's my reaction to the darkness Nightmare effect.

[@munchjrgames942]

His name was originally "Metal Shark *Prayer*" since he summons past bosses, and is in turn, praying.

[@Aeromancer-Draco-Lord]

It's like how Lex Luthor has his head exposed in his suit but it has a force field around thebhead

[@FlashTrickstar]

"Max from the Bomberman series is way cooler, anyway." "HYPERRRR-banana." That, ladies and gentleman, is both a reference to Bomberman Jetters and to a somewhat popular group that played it and many other bomberman games, "TheStrawHatNo!"

[@StuffedAnimalAdvisor]

I think the z saber is especially made for eobots. Like a slash does something to hurt robotic life. But it's not a light saber, so it doesn't just slice through anything. That was my fan theory

[@LucidPhoton]

6:53 in other news, the sky is blue. Back to you Johnny!!!

[@Comkill117]

That background where Zero fought High Max looks like Megatron’s body was just laying there in pieces. Therefore I am proposing that MegaMan takes place in a timeline where the Autobots and Decepticons never got rebuilt by Teletran 1.

[@CharlesUrban]

I can't take High Max seriously because he seems to be named after two of the settings on an air conditioner.

[@ToanaYurashi]

watching this makes me want to play one of the Megaman ZX games

[@ultimateshadeofwar]

If there was a battle multiplayer function, Johnny's nightmare would be Metal Shark Player weapon, because of PTSD lol

[@christopherballero866]

Each stage has specific nightmare effects but they are also triggered by beating certain bosses

[@Gozuma2]

Lives actually DO serve one purpose in the PS1 MMX games. If you continue, your E-Tanks are emptied.

[@Errox025]

A sidescrolling crusher section on a conveyer belt... Wow! Overkill, much?

[@Perfect7en]

+Errox025 With Spikes! oh joy...

[@adrianamorix2777]

I don't think this is deadly enough. Shall we send the flaming bazooka sharks?

[@Errox025]

Amorix I don't know about the flaming bazooka sharks but I'd be OK for some sharks with laser beams attached to their heads.

[@KyanbuXM]

+Errox025 On motorcycles with buzz saws for wheels.

[@baseballsoffury642]

What editing software does Johnny use???

[@Thundercloud94]

What makes you laugh?!

[@ModelAAA90]

Ya know Clement? I have a better explanation that cloud've fixed the whole "How did Zero recover" thing:X got fixed thanks to Dr. Light's AI soul, then why can't Zero get the SAME treatment somehow with Dr. Wily? I mean there's already a lot of pointers that Isac is Dr. Wily's vessel in someway, so I can't it be that Isac found Zero's body somehow and fixed 'em? But that's just me, I'm sure there're other ways to explain Zero's return...

[@sparking1022]

Metal shark Player is a mistranslation of Metal shark prayer.

[@79bigcat]

Which is why one of his attacks is bringing back old enemy sprites.

[@AustinOnSugar]

+Sparking 102 Which, in itself, is an engrish phrase with little meaning. "Prayer" doesn't mean "One who prays," so it's a bit silly even if they got the translation right.

[@MastaGambit]

+Sparking 102 I think Shark Necromancer would have been a better name. :p

[@sparking1022]

AustinOnSugar I prefer Metal Shark Player anyway.

[@MrP9327]

Ohh geez Metal Shark Players stage looks like someone let some Romhacker design it. Seriously a shitton of Instant death and questionable programming just screams of cheaply made Romhack that's just hard for the sake of being hard.

[@KyanbuXM]

+Thor der Donnergott In a way it kind of is a Rom Hack. XD

[@pingasluigi25]

+Thor der Donnergott This whole game feels like some sadistic Romhacker's wet dream.

[@esmooth919]

CharacterLimits they did NOT attempt to balance the difficulty. This game is just badly designed. That's all there is to it.

[@NewZen41]

"In Mega Man's 1-3, you'll be using the Special Weapons you get". Long rant time... Funny, because as far as I'm concerned, Ted, you guys and most people I watch play them don't even bother to use more than 2-3 weapons at a time, given half of 1's weapons are highly situational, everything from 2 is outclassed by Metal Blades, giving you no reason to use the other ones and even then, three of them are really useful for anything with the others being crap under some type of gimmick, and 3's (My favorite Classic Title) are extremely hit or miss (5 are good, the other 3 suck ass). Hell, the only games I can actively state that I've used weapons as little as possible/one weapon most of the time are 5, X3, and X6, and in X6's case, I'm only using the damned Yammar Option(X). There's also the fact that people don't really experiment with weapons and throw them off as useless because they try them in one stage and immediately consider them shit (In the case of this playthrough, you can't really show off "Weapons" because Zero uses Techniques, not weapons), and if you prefer the basic style of gameplay, that's fine, but if you really have no inkling of how all of your weapons work, then stop pretending you know what you're talking about, please.

[@esmooth919]

I beg to differ. When it comes to Mega Man 2, yes, everything is out class by the metal blades, but the only two weapons I don't use at all, unless I need to, are Flash Stopper and Crash Bomb. Flash Stopper, because it is a one-use deal; and Crash Bomb, because a full bar only gives you 7 shots total. Thankfully, i figured out how to navigate that God-forsaken BooBeam Trap. I agree with you on MegaMan 3, though.

[@NewZen41]

L-Y3T I can't even give any credit anything other than Air Shooter, Metal Blades, or Quick Boomerang, primarily because of the drawbacks of the other weapons. You've already mentioned Time Stopper and Crash Bomber's flaws, but Atomic Fire is crap on its own without charging it(Which basically destroys its consumption outright), Bubble Lead doesn't work on more than half of the enemies in the game, and Leaf Shield HAS to be used on moving platforms, otherwise, it's used up and even then, and even then it doesn't work on a number of foes. Even still, I respect your views.

[@esmooth919]

NewZen you're right about Atomic fire. The thing i hate most about that weapon is that it functions *nothing* like Heat Man's main attack (on top of the other flaws). But besides Mega Man 2, the only other games in which i find the weapons useful are X1 and X4 (both X and Zero). (I have yet to play 9 or 10, so I can't speak on those)

[@thegamerguru97]

Real talk, Fleetway Super Sonic is still one of the reasons I prefer fleetway to Archie...that and STC:O

[@Miko101]

Jon Why didn't you block the crusher in the first part of Metal Shark!

[@elliott1781]

A Good Way For Handling MSP's First Section Is To Dump The Ride Armor At The Highest Point to Jam The Crusher

[@Kuniku778]

You can use the armor to hold up the press in the first part of this stage if I remember correctly. essentially making the first part harmless. Another work around, but ill take what I can get I hate this stage as well.

[@lvl80goon67]

i think speedster is in ground scaravich(i think i spelled wrong) and the hyper dash is in blizzard wolfangs stage

[@zapkido2830]

YES. SOMEBODY NOTICED THE DIVING ATTACK BULLSHIT WITH THE ROPES. I thought I was the only one.

[@Plokman040]

7:35 wait is that, holy crap that's G1 Megatron back there! No seriously that's old bucket head Space Quest got Optimus and now Mega Man got Megatron. Guess we know why there are so few Transformers games out there, in the video game world they die even more than in the shows.