Memory Lane Level 9 (Hard) Season 13 - Horrible Level Design Ep. 10

[@taghreedali1948]

I’m convinced that the PvZC team is just fans of the game that don’t know game design works

[@TwilightChomperEnthusiast]

Funny that the PvZ equivalent of SMM “Little Timmy” levels are made by the devs unironically.

[@BunnyJolf]

So like mod creators

[@miimiiandco]

I honestly think that statement might have some truth to it!

[@UlyssesK402]

You'd convince me Earth is flat before you disprove this statement beyond a shadow of the doubt. (Edit: To clarify, I'm strongly inclined to agree with the original statement.)

[@Sandu7231]

​@@Coromeskmakes sense because is a CHINESE VERSIÓN of pvz 2 with his exclusive content for the country.😅

[@jonong3836]

This is why it’s called Memory Lane. The levels are so torturous it will literally carve itself into your memory.

[@Nobodyismyname593]

Good one

[@Techno_baller_67]

Please never stop making videos of this series, it's some of the best modern pvz content out there and i love it

[@taghreedali1948]

Most likely because it’s the ONLY good modern PvZ content (*ahem* Zomvoid)

[@Techno_baller_67]

@@taghreedali1948 yeah I agree, ZomVoid is just one of those clickbait pvz channels that are only made to trick kids and use them for money which I just find sad yet messed up

[@taghreedali1948]

@@Techno_baller_67 true

[@woo.yeah.]

​@@taghreedali1948Creeps20, SylviaYSI, KoalaOM, RCCH

[@jossuecabrera8611]

​​@@woo.yeah.creeps20 is one of my favorite alongside flag zombie. There's also ducky tube zombie which makes pretty good pvz content

[@bbboi9127]

I feel like the main problem with all these levels are the objectives. You have really specific ones like the kill zombies with melon pult while you’re facing a level that’s already hard to survive on its own. Plus there’s a timer so better no waste to much time!

[@UlyssesK402]

And the fabric of reality apparently becomes less stable as the timer ticks down. Wormholes relocate your plants, portals spawn more zombies, and a black hole relocates and possibly even kills your plants. ...do we really need that?

[@UlyssesK402]

"These ones don't spawn gargs." My thought process was "Oh good." "Wait are these tents going to be worse someho-"

[@hinotoritheobliterator6556]

Cue hyper speed Jack-in-the-Boxes

[@life_is_a_myth]

​@@hinotoritheobliterator6556It wouldn't be that bad if they were at least Half Health like Zombie Nibble Zombie Quick in PvZ1 or like Shrinking Violet's Zombies.

[@UlyssesK402]

@@life_is_a_myth They should probably also just be Level 1. Besides, it ain't 'xactly fair that *they* get to be higher level, while *you're* still forced to use Level 1 plants. Actually makes me wonder if these levels were somehow tested with Level 5s.

[@life_is_a_myth]

@@UlyssesK402 Oh right. That too.😂

[@Pihsrosnec]

they're so fast holy shit, a jack-in-the-box zombie reaching the house without exploding is also super cursed lol

[@otienat9974]

8:10 Here is the little fun fact: Jack-in-the-box Zombie when first-released has glitch that if you hypnotize him he will crash the game when he encounter non-hypnotized zombie.

[@heckincat1406]

Hey Flag Zombie, I just wanted to say that I truly appreciate your content, like every other one of your subscribers. You earned them all. PVZ2 stands pretty near my heart as a 2006 kid, I remember watching people like Zackscott play the game and listening to the old UB and demonstration minigame music gleefully. Nowadays, it's much more stale, but your content has sort of reignited the spark of which started to become snuffed out with the content being released for the game. I'm really grateful for your content.

[@Rito20]

I've got this sneaking suspicion that memory lane might not be very good

[@carljohnson7582]

6 of the 10 "horrible level design" videos are from memory lane levels

[@UlyssesK402]

Gee, may I ask what gives you such a *ridiculous* idea? [giggles]

[@-rlmn]

​@@carljohnson7582the first is a piñata party that has the same day as my birthday

[@randomprotag9329]

PVZ2C has a real talent for making two tent spawning at beginning levels anti game design in different ways. they should just stop with spawning tents beginning of level.

[@TwilightChomperEnthusiast]

Wow, I was just watching one of your other Horrible Level Design videos when I was notified of this. The more, the better! EDIT: Even better, it was the one featuring the tent gargs. The similarities keep adding up!

[@user-Pies163]

Level 9 memory lane will give you the memories of feeling pain for each time we experience and TRAUMA!!!

[@GCalebB]

lets admire this dude for playing levels poorly designed jusy for our enjoyment

[@smg5962]

Flag zombie is bouta make an entire season for BWB at this point _💀_

[@DragonTheOneDZA]

_SLANTED SKULL EMOJI_

[@RandomBloonStuff]

​​@@DragonTheOneDZA I didn't even notice _💀_

[@RandomBloonStuff]

@@DragonTheOneDZA I am on PC now and it isn't slanted. Weird.

[@Weirdo_89]

Wow, it's remarkable how talkweb wants to make a horrible level design

[@Ermonacodimontagna]

In this season there is also a level that spams Gargantuas (i believe it's the third) and another one where you have to kill zombies with boom balloon which were really awful and would make for some cool episodes

[@somemadnessfan4763]

it's funny how they brought back Jack in The Box Zombie, even though the game already has TWO counterparts to him (Exploding Zombie and Furnace Zombie) but ig nostalgia over making sense amirite?

[@angvunguyen3662]

What is even more funny is that the new jack in the box doesn't have the "Huh" sound when about to explode, while exploding zombie has it

[@mulitpower8827]

I’m literally calling that Jack in the Box Zombie will be one of the next zombies to be added in the versus mode If I actually end up being correct with this by the time the next update comes out, someone please let me know

[@Its_bloon.yt2011]

You will knowing community ideas

[@larrymantic2635]

I mean, it makes sense.

[@buffete3753]

Jack in the box zombie is in the china version ? Damn this make me even more envious of this game , but as Always , thanks for showing off those Amazing level disign with no flaws whatsoever !

[@InsertFunnyThingHere]

Ah memory lane hard, only the bestest of game design allowed in... And gargantuars, a lot of em

[@Saifullah_4112]

*_Memory lane, Makes unforgettable traumatic memories!_*

[@lamenwatch1877]

8:28 The sync between the Cherry Bomb and the music here is impeccable.

[@flagzombie]

Yep, did that on purpose.

[@randomgapper]

Amazing Content as always

[@memerboi7128]

Zombie ain’t nimble but they quick

[@djm334-goomodding]

Can’t wait until Talkweb makes an objective that’s just “Do not do anything”

[@tree1594]

me when im forced to use melon pults against an endlessly respawning horde of tanky fast zombies

[@nibyafternight1983]

Honestly one of the main reasons I still watch your videos is for the music selection! I excited about what track would play next in every video!

[@chomper1014]

Excellent video my dude.👌😎

[@tombraiserzombie2581]

It’s called Memory Lane cause they want to remember all of the trauma

[@mephistosimp]

9:28 the disrespect for Twin Sunflower...

[@nathanielhiponia7580]

I kinda notice that the jack in the box in pv2c doesn't make a noise compare to the pvz1 counterpart

[@Jimmy_a_Vietnamese_dude]

I want to ask you a question that this stage not allow you to bring high-level melonpult, right?

[@flagzombie]

Memory Lane sets all of your plants to level 1.

[@kityondzhou6863]

​@@flagzombiei dont want to remeber memory lane😢

[@jessicarodriguez1376]

If its calles memory lane its because They want you to remember it

[@n0tinctrl]

is anyone else somewhat creeped out by the new jack in the box zombie design or is that just me 🫠

[@dana.d.4627]

A lot of the terrible level designs are from Memory Lane. Guess the devs don't remember how to make good levels.

[@life_is_a_myth]

14:24 That is the most passive-aggressive "compliment" I ever seen.😂

[@thexwhats2989]

Flag zombie is the rare pvz youtuber who doesn't have clickbait thumbnails and mindless content

[@someonerandom7398]

unrelated but i love your choice of music, im a sonic fan so it was nice to see some music from sonic games

[@angvunguyen3662]

Lmao, when I saw the "memory lane", I guessed it is the level with small jack in the box tent, and yes I was right, hate this level so much

[@MAXIMA]

Other plant if you don't have gumnut is Narcissus , she is really good for the final bucket head zombies, Narcissus removes the armor for all the zombies, ignoring the level of the zombies

[@oratualvideos]

They should hire you to make the levels

[@Moxilock]

You know its gonna be a good episode when its a Memory Lane one

[@someguy3267]

I guess If there's one silver lining, the level with the Boom Balloon Flowers was actually a dope puzzle stage. I wonder If that was a level yoinked from the Creative Courtyard, and given objectives in here, because I'm pretty sure a requirement to be a Hard Memory Lane level is to be bullshit. Oh well, at least there was *a* good level.

[@Justcommentinhere]

BABE WAKE UP!!!

[@Neon_Here09]

5:14 "All the Fun of the Fair" yeah, sure it does

[@Atlasraliff]

I wasn't expecting that mini jack in the box zombie at the beginning lmao

[@TartagliaThe_11th_McDsEmployee]

I was about to sleep until i saw flag zombie posted another video about terrible level designs

[@hovinhhao5235]

8:30 The game didn't registered the existence of that zombie when he had just come out of the tent, hence Jalapeno did nothing to him. This one is related to coding , as the object didn't appear despite having showing up animation. Edit: I realized that he talked about the one got stuck in Gumnut's gum. Then I have no clue.

[@BunnyJolf]

I swear PvZ burnt the food intentionally cause they knew people would eat it

[@giftedphotonbee5220]

At this rate, just put all of hard memory lane’s levels on this series. Every single one on here looks like they didn’t test it AT ALL.

[@MartinYAYs]

The Club Penguin songs fit so well lol

[@biscuitporkasmealchoice6741]

I've always said that blover haters would not survive the winter, and now we've found the winter in question

[@minusterry5711]

From Memory Lane to Nightmare Road.

[@theonlyshinyumbreon]

It looks like the invincible hypnotized jack in the box zombies might be (somehow?) caused by gumnut

[@64Bullseye]

I KNEW this level was going to show up in this series. Explode-o-nuts are pretty decent as they can damage the tents and stall for the jack in the boxes. Paired with vase-pult the tents don’t last long. (But the melon-pult objective is flat out stupid tho) Besides this (and level 8) This was probably one of the easier hard mode seasons, as I managed to get the glory days, extreme challenge and crazy trip achievements from this one season. (Also magnet shrooms DO NOT work on Jack in the boxes anymore)

[@hovinhhao5235]

Well Jack-in-a-box Zombies r lvl 3 and 4 while Magnet-shroom is lvl 1, and u know what happens right?

[@64Bullseye]

​@@hovinhhao5235Yeah. I completely forgot that was a thing. However, knowing the devs, they probably made them immune to magnet. Is there a level in normal mode where jack in the boxes are level 1?

[@jacobg6299]

1:16 all ready did

[@ashtheorange]

my ptsd kicks in when the tents appeared

[@chengxingdynasty]

Great video!

[@nicooko_pvp]

the music in the beginning was made in beepbox lol, there is no way i cant recognize those drums

[@RGC_animation]

Not even 1 minute in the level and we can already see how bad the level design is xD

[@LanaIsUnderrated]

This level wouldnt even be that hard if all plants werent locked behind level 1 a level 3-5 melon pult wouldve taken out those zombies much easier but NOPE, its fucking level 1, where its strength is compareable to trying to destroy a literal armored tank with a god damn slingshot

[@user-cm5mp8vb2f]

I have a problem : i try to download pvz2 chinese version but that doesn't work and an error message appear : the app isn't instaled

[@thelightningbolt9]

This is probably the most brainf**k level I have ever seen on your channel so far. And no, not even the one with tants spawning Gargs. I doubt that Turkey Pult could have been useful here because of the Melon-Pult objective.

[@PRIOTRODON]

Agreed

[@thelightningbolt9]

@@PRIOTRODON heyyy, man, I did not expect to see you here. Hello :D How are you doing? Have you known about Flag's channel before?

[@PRIOTRODON]

@@thelightningbolt9 I'm just a PvZ2 nerd stopping by! and yes I've been following Flag for a while, from the overanalyzing series 😃

[@witchhazel415]

Turkey-pult specializes in dealing with gargs (regardless of their level) as it can spawn another turkey by the time the previous one is destroyed, but high level regular zombies? I don't think that'll go well, especially when the said zombies are faster than usual. sup Lightbolt :p

[@thelightningbolt9]

@@witchhazel415 thanks for explaining that plant's mechanics, I knew nothing about it lol. Also, hi :)

[@AveragealienWhocosplays-gj2tg]

Me seeeing the jack in the boxes: oh cool they were added surely they are like their pvz1 counterparts Me seeing how fast they go through a primal wallnut: oh sweet jesus

[@supremechaosbeing2696]

I think if you used Tallnut you could have actually farmed bugs for melon kills. first time tallnut has been useful. I also think you might have been able to swap out gold bloom for celery stalker to destroy tents, or whatever PvZ2C has that's better than it

[@brinefilopolski33]

Jack in a box

[@Jakewebmaster8]

Couldn't have you used Hurrikale instead of Blover since Hurrikale kills bug zombies in one lane and also pushes zombies back?

[@flagzombie]

Hurrikale doesn't kill flying zombies in this version.

[@ahmedzaveel1665]

Only one lane, that's the issue

[@Jakewebmaster8]

@@flagzombie Wait really? Dang I thought they did

[@lustformoney5294]

Flag, Can you make a video of how family modification works? I don't know how that function works to reduce the cost to the plants :)

[@baconandx1858]

I hand’t played pvz 2 in ages but I knew they gave levels to plants, but I just hope the zombies in the U.S. version don’t have levels too because that’d just be another thing that goes against how pvz 1 balanced dangerous enemies

[@rextanglr4056]

it's pvz2c's memory lane. i am not surprised in the slightest.

[@jessetime159]

This is why I prefer the Penny's Pursuit and Arena in PVZ2 Vanilla because at least it doesn't force the player to complete the objectives to beat the levels and it makes them optional.

[@raulgp5410]

Man wft with the pinata party on Reflourished?

[@IndeedNotYan]

Basically "Zombie Nimble Zombie Quick"

[@FelipeGames-py4gr]

Drinking Game: Take a shot for every episode of "Horrible Level Design" that is a Memory Lane level

[@jessicarodriguez1376]

Takes 10000000000000 shots

[@MrMariosonicman]

At this point. It might as well be called "horrible memory lane hard design" this shows up so frequently.

[@goatrex7181]

I have a question what would happen if A Walrus zombie and Ski Zombie encounter a Saucer Squash?

[@KraylebStudios]

New intro omg!!

[@angelinasoriano5694]

What happen to you box zombie hypno? Ha ha ha ha ha! That’s so funny 9:09

[@edredommilitarliveseclipes5282]

Soo flag zombie how do you get these artifacts? Like this giant seed? I only have the catapult and the healing staff

[@wronger-wrongest]

Correct me if I am wrong, but this one looks kind of nitpicky. Zombies were plentiful and had high health so that you are forced to use instas, they were small and fast so that you are forced to use stalling, and there is melon kills objective so you are forced to use attackers - seems like balanced challenge to me. And it looked like there were several moments, when using plant food on melon instead of using insta plant would net many kills. Also, to the points of "you have to do something specific", "you have to use something specific", "it's too hard", - isn't that literally how challenging strategy game is supposed to be?

[@tmes69]

Lessgo welcome !!

[@Sombraro7]

I think the hypnotized Jack in the box dont take damage because of gumnut

[@trinitroid7893]

Isn't the whole point of the little zombie gimmick is to make them fast yet fragile? Did they seriously forgot to divide their health?

[@Shades423]

also i think fairytale level 9 is insanely hard because of the insane garg rush at the end.

[@Death_is_Crimson]

Is it necessary to pay money to get the new premiums??

[@nilpyc307]

im convinced that chat gpt is better than making levels than the pvz2 team

[@КостяЗозуля-е3я]

Just one level? Im disappointed of them

[@shingkung3974]

carnival night zone prototype enjoyer😭😭😭

[@GizemKapsonu]

What happen if we shrink "Small" zombie?

[@thatliquidthing1903]

Can I just say that I absolutely hate the Jack “redesign?” It’s funny to me that when it comes to remaking PvZ1 zombies nowadays, the international team makes the designs worse with weird animations, and the Chinese team just traces art and reuses animations from the source material.

[@forcedexcess26]

How is something like this allowed in a video game?

[@Eliza-hb1nc]

would winter melon count for the objective? doesn't matter, since you'd die before you get the 500 sun, but would it?

[@flagzombie]

No it doesn't count and does nothing since tiny zombies are immune to slowing plants.

[@Eliza-hb1nc]

@@flagzombie not surprised. while it is a melon, it is technically a different plant i guess

[@Kiminorama]

Did he beat the level with hypno shroom only because of the bug??

[@toxic_shr00m]

Memory Lane really loves showing up here huh?

[@squidtilus0.400]

Good job.

[@adrishab9512]

At this point i think they know ab this series so they intentionally make a bad lvl for you

[@grephi6416]

atleast its not the WHOLE REALM

[@nguido72110]

Why does most of these horrible levels come from memory lane (hard)?

[@SillySillygoose_]

Another bad designed level: this weeks premium pack levels level 4 (main game)

[@yteggegg222]

好看!

[@milkmonstrosity]

Level 4 Zombies while everything you have is forced to be Level 1, honestly what's the issue?

[@thebucketheadgaming]

These levels are so horrendous...