Men are Better Off Than Women NOT Attending College

[@marpleloo65]

College today was doomed when they continued to charge $200K+ for information that can now be obtained for free, in quantity, and increasingly better quality.

[@angrydragonslayer]

while their information either stays the same or degrades i once stood up and said what the prof was suggesting was highly illegal..... and it had been since ~2 years after he became a prof

[@skuddingomcwinters6119]

But you can’t brag that you learned it.

[@androidgod2647]

When I grow up, I want to double major in Gender Studies

[@marpleloo65]

By then you’ll need more than two degrees in it.

[@kaglekoa]

What about up-side-down underwater basket weaving,,?

[@agentdecibel8284]

You go girl!

[@darwinmorden4731]

Check out Sturgis Motorcycle Rally. It is mostly blue collar men who can afford a Harley and afford to attend.

[@TheDrudgenator]

THe what now? Yo I want in! Bringing my hvac monies on that lol

[@Simba365]

Honestly even in engineering they get paid very little at least in government agencies. Electricians get paid twice as much as some electrical engineers . Even in construction unless your like a construction manager they get paid way less than skilled workers. Even for computer science you don't need a degree just have the aptitude and skill. This is why I realized its skills that command wages and the rarer the skill the better. Ask any engineer the first year is playing catch up because school didn't prepare them.

[@DoktorJeep]

i'm over 50 and for the first time in my life, I recently saw a millenial acquire an engineering position. People ask me why I never pursued an engineering position. For most of my life, all I saw was engineers being unemployable due to being overqualified, for those that still tried. Then the outsourcing. And when that was not enough, H1B visas. Now they want to push as many non-white/non-males into engineering positions as they can, qualifications be damned. It's better to be a scrappy tech who can do engineering work than an actual engineer.

[@Simba365]

@@DoktorJeep most engineers are immigrants though not sure that its a prejudice or diversity hire. I would say that they do try to preference women alot thats mostly in tech.

[@samo6401]

Electricians that go off and do their own thing as a contractor or small company will likely make more than your average employed electrical engineer, but I think youre ignoring the electrical engineers that go off and manage to become a contractor or form a small business. They are *incredibly* well paid. Hell, at my job right now, the contractors who design our PCBs or program our firmware make $150-350 an hour, and they arent the elite, theyre just the people that know what theyre doing enough to deliver. Electrical engineering also spans CS heavy topics like IoT and applied AI, which are ridiculously in demand rn. AI is the number one in demand skill right now for technical freelancers. And lets not forget the point, the exceptional electrician will make $150 an hour, and thats awesome. An exceptional employed electrical engineer can make a $300-700k at a large tech company, or become a millionaire with their small business or freelance jobs. What I think a lot of people make the mistake of doing is thinking they can just go to college and come out the other end a seasoned expert in engineering. All a bachelor's in engineering tells you is that youre ready to start to learn engineering, you're hardly qualified for the real stuff. If you land an entry level job, you'll likely not be doing the most technical work, because you still just dont really know what you're doing. I think most engineering or CS students would benefit immensely from doing a related trade apprenticeship and possibly a few years of work before finishing a bachelor's

[@Simba365]

@@samo6401 maybe because of my location in New York it seems like that. I know that electrical engineers can make a lot of money at power plants and big industrial complexes but those would be in the middle of nowhere. I can definitely understand electrical engineers in tech making a lot. But being from a city like new york i still would say electricians on there own make over 6 figures and that is not even going into some of the large government agencies where they make easily over 200k.But outside1 of say electrical and tech many specialized trades can make substantially more than engineers.

[@Simba365]

@@samo6401 To add after having done some research you can do many programs fully online that are accredited while you work as an electrician if you really want a degree. This will place you miles ahead anyone coming out of school while diminishing the opportunity cost it takes to go to college.

[@DoktorJeep]

Does not matter how stronk and independent a woman is, and how many degrees she has. When her toilet clogs, she's going to pay hundreds to get it unclogged. Every plumber I know is as knee deep in cash as they are in shit.

[@bigwavesun]

Tell that security guard to continue doing what he knows. Next step is to get his P.I. license, cybersecurity credentials, etc. He could go into executive protection or start his own security firm.

[@saintsword23]

Cybersecurity expertise + TS clearance means you'll have a job for life, unless the collapse happens in our lifetime.

[@scottmcdonald5237]

Bill Balance, evening talk show host in the early 80's, KFMB San Diego, took women callers despaired of their marriages & lack of conjugal activity. He'd invariably ask, "My darling, did you let yourself go?" Sure enough, every time FAT!

[@theguybehindyou4762]

So even back then they couldn’t make the connection between thin and attractive.

[@J.D.Vision]

45yr old here, no wife or kids, 20yrs as a massage therapist, now I'm on SSDI due to blindness. Massage Therapy was a comfortable trade job while it lasted before C-19 in central Florida, but if I could go back and do it all over again, I would do engineering.

[@wambutu7679]

I'm 56. I made an ok living on a history degree as a teacher. But my tendency to tell students basic facts about history has made it difficult to get a job now. To do it over again I'd go into the trades.

[@davidp.7620]

Even in a supposedly serious degree like Math, graduating is still a participation trophy. I don't know any person who actually tried and didn't eventually get it.

[@abrin5508]

If you must go to college go to one in Europe (OK you'll have to struggle with the visa thing but they are available). You'll find it way cheaper in some countries (Germany, Denmark) or a lot faster (3 year Bachelors, 1 year Masters in UK).

[@tommyvercetti9322]

Exactly that's true because many people in America they getting older before they finish college some of them 23 years old still on college some 28 still on college

[@thomasmichaels6850]

This thumbnail tells it all.

[@malhenning1608]

truth exists (especially in sociology, economics and religion) in different ways. Sometimes people can find it slippery, they can see it but if they grasp it slips out of their hand and disappears. Exhibit A evolution

[@pale_saint]

Just look for Harry Enfield and women & education from youtube…

[@LucHale]

I’ve experienced this a lot

[@kevinmas19]

nice show

[@Joker2Thief]

Flash …. Cappy

[@yaboikuriboh6557]

Aba and Preach did a video on this too xD

[@TheDrudgenator]

Started making money half way through trade school…I went to college first and it was driving me nuts … sit and hear nonessential shit on a English class that had nothing to do with the degree I was studying in , English 2 for graphic design? I couldn’t focus …ended up finding courses for free online , I’m far from broke and I’m dumbfounded for going to college if you’re not an engineering student or Lawyer or a Doctor (non English or French PhDs) Better luck in the army as a guy . You need to eat, don’t need to speak pretty for your meal unless you want to get tenure in a college .

[@Jackrobert28]

Link the articles please.

[@titolovely8237]

here's why: 1) woman are more conformist and so follow the herd more. 2) men have MUCH more employment options without college than woman do 3) men have significantly less financial aid than woman do (scholarships, romantic partners paying tuition, etc) 4) men are expected to be a provider much earlier in life than woman are, and so pursue a career that pays NOW not in 20 years. most of these careers do not need college 5) men arent as interested in people, and "things" oriented career paths (manufacturing, construction, carpentry, welding) prefer experience over education. 6) most college degrees dont yield a career path that pays enough to warrant getting them. the exceptions are in the fields dominated by men (STEM). these fields produce a very small percentage of overall degrees awarded by colleges, and fewer men are going to college to get degrees, but those that do earn significantly more than woman with degrees in other fields.

[@TimmyCramer]

I didn't want to go to the prom let alone college. I preferred to pickup girls out by the keg of beer at house parties! Was warned to never marry and got my real estate license at 18. I do read voraciously, people and different cultures interest me. Debt and mortgage free for 15 yrs. Here camping beachside now in San Diego. Timmy C Arizona

[@tailgunner2]

Nice, For me, it was the community college route through a technical program. Then off into a trade that was related. 5 years later, finished the apprenticeship program and gotten the license. Come next March when I file my taxes, I'm paying off the last debt, my mortgage.

[@TimmyCramer]

@@tailgunner2 congrats!!

[@Adrian-qr6gk]

i'm currently working to get my real estate license. would you have any advice for me like are there certain things to study on more than others, how to find jobs or do the interview process as a newbie? May i ask how your experience is having your license like hows the work from day to day and do you make ok money not super rich money? Thank you!

[@TimmyCramer]

@@Adrian-qr6gk Get your license and take it day to day. No easy answers!

[@fredjaboobi]

Aaron is exactly right. Companies are hurting for workers and will teach you skills like welding. You won't be an instant millionaire but will always be able to make 25 bucks an hour easy.

[@Anton43218]

Fake, they demand 3 years experience for near minimum wage job welding

[@MrMarkg1968]

Men won't go to college, women most affected.

[@Joe_Dirt82]

Tried college. Waste of time. Overpriced books we never opened and had to have some real stupid classes and a lot of those classes were 90% female. "Creative writing" teacher had just left job at subway to be a college teacher. Wtf? Naw I left n joined a union. Jokes on the college kids.... Union has free college training that actually relates to our trade. No writing classes, no art, no underwater basket weaving. No debt and full pay package is like $62/hr. Career day in school was always military or college. Never any union jobs mentioned. Almost like they didn't want kids to make 6figures a yr with just a diploma. I always loved watching dirty jobs when I was younger. Imagine if they woulda put that on MTV instead of teen mom crap. Think kids woulda went to find jobs instead?

[@theguybehindyou4762]

The decline was engineered behind the scenes.

[@IanHippsViolin]

Don’t these people have anything better to think about with their “phd’s” than this bullshit?

[@sebastiandelao6661]

" academ acrat"? Great new word

[@timstevens3361]

Straight Up n Stickin Out Dat Sht Tru