'Men are fleeing from work' | Nicholas Eberstadt

In this clip from a recent Direct interview, Nicholas Eberstadt unpacks the statistics behind and lifestyles that feed the no-work phenomenon. 6 million Americans are NEET - not in education, employment or training - and spend an enormous amount of time on screens
For every prime age man who is unemployed, there are over 4 men who are neither working nor looking for work. These men fall right through the cracks of American employment statistics.
View their full interview here: • America's Invisible Cr...
Nicholas holds the Henry Wendt Chair in Political Economy at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), where he researches and writes extensively on demographics and economic development generally, and more specifically on international security in the Korean peninsula and Asia. Domestically, he focuses on poverty and social well-being. He is the author of numerous books, notable among them 'Poverty in China', 'The Tyranny of Numbers', 'Russia's Peacetime Demographic Crisis', and his latest, 'Men Without Work: America's Invisible Crisis'.
Nicholas has offered invited testimony before Congress on numerous occasions and has served as consultant or adviser for a variety of units within the US government. He has a PhD in political economy and government, an MPA from the Kennedy School of Government, and an AB from Harvard University. In addition, he holds a master of science from the London School of Economics.
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[@otterguyty]

Many men waking up and realizing that 9-5 wage slavery is a BIG scam.

[@jazzlover10000]

Tired of being mistreated and overtaxed. Pick one only. Overtax me or put me in a very comfortable position and I'll work hard. But you can't have it both ways!

[@moviesynopsis001]

@@jazzlover10000 Get back to work ya bludger

[@THX5000]

"Hoeflation: Today's men must work 5 times harder than their grandfathers for women that are 20 times worse than their grandmothers."

[@lieshtmeiser5542]

"Hoeflation" Lol...

[@Undergroundddxx]

Actually, mathematically speaking, you have to work six times harder to be at the minimum wage level of one of those boomers

[@Scylithen]

When you are demonized in the workforce, then told you are not doing enough then taxed to a point of no return then mandated and told you are useless to society and finally chewed up and spat out at the end of it, can you really blame anyone for doing the minimum required to survive and using what time they have left to enjoy their life how they want to ? There is a difference to 'fleeing' and actively working smarter rather than harder.

[@daniellesomerfield8799]

You're so right, I hope things turn around for you.

[@taskcasburn6086]

It's easy to see why this is happening. They feel like society threw them overboard, and in many ways, society did, and this is their way of saying "If I don't have a seat at the table, then I'll make you wish I did." I don't get how this eludes the "experts". It's obvious.

[@impudentdomain]

@@taskcasburn6086 because the elites have ideological blinders on

[@derfalschejunge]

Many men don't need much. And by taking away families from them you took away the motivation to still be productive. You are willing to put up with a lot of sh*t when you have mouths to feed. But why do it just for your own if you don't have to?

[@impudentdomain]

@@derfalschejunge if there is never going to be the chance of a family then a guy will often just get a little job that's easy and adjust his lifestyle to that, plenty of time to go hiking, fishing, play games, hang with your buddies, and play with your pets. Yes in many ways it is like not growing up but it isn't men's first choice. It feels like its all that is left.

[@sputnik460]

I'm a chartered civil and structural engineer with Engineers Australia and have over 2 decades of experience. I will be leaving the profession soon. My industry has become too politicised and sexism against men is now the norm.

[@justinw2232]

Sad to hear

[@daniellesomerfield8799]

That's a shame.

[@chocolatesugar4434]

😂😂😂 sexism against men is not real lol

[@sputnik460]

@Chocolate Sugar gender quotas are sexist lol 😆 😂 🤣

[@reconditionedman]

@@chocolatesugar4434 false accusations are

[@dreddy_g]

Quick question. Why should men care for a society that treats them either as a joke, an inconvenience, a resource, an afterthought, a burden, or as a threat?

[@just_another32]

oh no... not another victim category

[@jawwad1189]

Don't you know your not man enough after working 12- 14 hours a day? 🤣🤣 When are you going to marry the single mother with an OF account 🤣🤣🤣 joking

[@Bobo-ox7fj]

@@just_another32 Men don't need the victim label, they'll just check out from society quietly and let it come down around your ears. Manchildren, on the other hand...

[@just_another32]

@@Bobo-ox7fj well perhaps some more of them ought to stand up and argue for what they think is right...

[@skylinefever]

@@just_another32 How will they do that? What kind of activism from the commoner worked?

[@easter_sunday]

A strong, independent woman doesn't need a male workforce. Seriously, though: Y'all spent DECADES trying to destroy men in this society. Well, guess what? YOU SUCCEEDED. Pat yourself on the back for a job well done!

[@FaithfulFumoFan23]

They deserve it. They struggled for so long not having to fight in any wars, build any skyscrapers, invent everything.

[@HannaElfnerd]

@@FaithfulFumoFan23 ...during the first world war women weren't allowed to fight. Women fought for the right to die for their country.

[@HannaElfnerd]

Why afre you blaming women for a terrible societal structure? Women were excluded from being able to contribute to politics and policies, and now you blame feminists for the terrible outcome?

[@dm95422]

The "Mee Too" movement was the final nail in the coffin, per say.

[@WeWokeTheGiants]

​@@HannaElfnerdthe last 20 years women were part of shaping the policies and politics that we have today. Stop being disingenuous.

[@1tinMan]

Intelligent enough to gather all this data and analyze it, yet not smart enough to figure out what it all means. Brilliant.

[@jimgriffith4504]

It reminds me of a bumper sticker I once read…..Remember, the Titanic was constructed by the most competent engineers and ship builders and she still sank on her maiden voyage.

[@Matthew-uy6lc]

It's seriously frustrating to watch these people not understand. The jobs aren't worth going to anymore. You fix that you fix your problem but until then these ivory tower types won't get it. You wanna fix the workforce, fix the work. The market has been screaming at you for years now. God I'm so sick of this.

[@FaithfulFumoFan23]

Finding out what it means would involve actually going and asking these men why they're not working.

[@knightheaven8992]

@@Matthew-uy6lc Precisely, a lot of people will rather be influencers or youtubers or content creators of some kind, end up being more rewarding then the typical jobs

[@jimmyhvy2277]

Tinman : They Know , But Ignore it !

[@shubhamsingh-gl1fh]

No marriage No divorce No Alimony No child support Result happy life....😎😁

[@vincentrempel1603]

brother💪

[@TimBitts649]

No wife, happy life?

[@steves9955]

Amen 💯

[@Rockin_Roll]

More money in the bank...........and the Peace & Quiet.....is *Priceless* .............

[@Eric-kn4yn]

No future family unit the horror the horror

[@livingflame3845]

I am also a man in this category. I've been a tech for 2.5 decades. Recent mandates and other 'requirements' pushed me out of work. I do not feel inspired to return despite having little income. Retraining is a constant expectation. The workforce is highly polarising and employers dig into your personal life to ensure you line up with 'their values'. You trip up on red tape as you walk in the door and calling/texting your mobile outside hours is the norm. Further, dreams of home ownership have left long ago due to years of treading water with living costs on an average wage with 3 kids. Yes - these men are in despair and medicate themselves with screens and pain relief to drown out the noise.

[@daniellesomerfield8799]

I'm so sorry this happened to you. I often say how difficult it is for young families in these times. Hoping things turn around for you, you deserve better.

[@taskcasburn6086]

Well voiced. It's not hard to see the writing on the wall here. We are in trouble in times ahead. These men will not be taking up arms or going to war, if that need ever arises again. They are completely demoralized. They'll coldly look at all the vocal loudmouths in society and tell them to get on the front lines. We've allowed decadence to make us grossly insensitive and asinine in the way we deal with problems today. So instead the tactic is to berate and disparage those who feel downtrodden, rather than lift them up. I dare say, we deserve what we get. The time to realize this is now, while we still can and before it's too late. Hope you find better times ahead and stay grounded in what gives you hope. All the best.

[@ZipMapp]

​@@daniellesomerfield8799We must no have read the same message because your answer is really out of touch

[@lieshtmeiser5542]

"...calling/texting your mobile outside hours is the norm. " ^ this is killer.

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

Fellow early retiree, 36yo... Wife left me, cheated. I only needed money for her, shaved 70 hours off my weekly workload. Thanks, feminism!

[@kransencrates]

"Enjoy the decline" - Aaron Clarey.

[@gsxr1189]

It's almost like someone else was providing the resources when women hold 80% of consumer debt but only make 72% of what a man does & it's as if there are large economic implications when that someone else checks out on marriage by the millions & can now work less.

[@HansensUniverseT-A]

Let women work for us, after all they're strong and independent, while i do whatever i want, sounds like a good deal to me.

[@archie_bunker]

exactly

[@richardsteiner45]

That is so funny man hahahaha

[@timcameron619]

The more I earned, the more they taxed me. I couldn't make the leap to middle class. That was in the nineties. Now I deliver pizza and live in a trailer park. I barter and do odd jobs to maintain my hobbies and two black labs. It costs 600k to get a house in my hometown now. The small town life and sense of community is lost here.

[@leonmorello303]

but if you earn more and the government make it so that it pays less tax, then you gonna complain the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer! You can complain all you want, but you need to be realistic. I know it is hard just to live, but you need to be fair , you can't just female dogging at everything because it is hard! And YES, the more you earn, the more you get taxed, as it SHOULD be. It is fairer than the other way around!

[@imagoodlistener2730]

Sorry to hear that. But don't worry about the house. They own you rather than the other way around.

[@MrEdrftgyuji]

The tax system is designed to keep us all poor and working until 80. What the government deems to be a "higher income", warranting steep tax rates, has no relation to what things actually cost.

[@lieshtmeiser5542]

Why didnt you get a house thats more like a trailer? Why do you think the only option was 600k house ?

[@sirdiealot53]

Another person that doesn’t understand tax brackets 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@mikekirkhoff4017]

What you really need to worry about is when men stop building and repairing. I’ve seen more middle aged men at fast food jobs then I ever have

[@EclairDontCare]

Was thinking this the other day. I see people in their 30s and 40s working all service jobs

[@knightheaven8992]

@@EclairDontCare That is all there is available, the west have been outsourcing to other countries the production capacity for decades now... this is the natural conclusion, you are left with an service economy... This is by design, and it will be bad for our own countries in the future.

[@jimmyhvy2277]

Don't worry , LGBTQ+ are going to pick up the Slack . One Day ?

[@axeljairmejoradogarcia8183]

Risking our lives for a society full of ungrateful women,feminized men and corrupt politicians its a no go for me tbh.😂

[@glenh1369]

We live in a world where women literally have more rights than men, while crying for more rights. Men who are qualified get over looked to employ more women...just because. And marriage is the road to ruin. I am unemployed and will only work when I find my dream job, which will be never.

[@markmarcas6523]

I like it. Just like women who say I’ll settle when i find the perfect man. I totally agree. I retired at 54. I have enough for myself and my responsibilities. No tax for the govt that despises me.

[@paccawacca4069]

Men are discriminated against quite literally en masse.

[@truthalwayswinsonewayorano9518]

Corruption has put a lot of people off everything.

[@kaylenehousego8929]

Amen!!

[@daniellesomerfield8799]

You're so right. People who should be trustworthy have let a lot of people down.

[@leonmorello303]

nah, only some give up. Don't trust me? Look at unemployment number, as I type right now, USA unemployment is at staggering low rate of 3.4 percent. That is the lowest unemployment rate we have been for decades!

[@TchrisO123]

@@leonmorello303 Fake number, go to shadow stats, it includes everyone in the working age range who isn't working. The number is actually 25%.

[@DavidNotSolomon]

@@leonmorello303 You cannot believe any gov figures on employment and inflation.

[@sumgue4964]

I give 40 hours a week, society gives me a house, a family, and a future. It is the "unspoken rule". Society gives me none of those things for working 40 hours a week. So why should I work? There is no reason why I should work. There is no reason for me to pay taxes to support a society that hates me. In fact, by more and more men not working, maybe this whole thing will collapse and then maybe things will get much worse, but there is a slight chance things will get better after. Men aren't born to work and pay taxes.

[@86Framer]

What’s going to happen to the average NEET when their parents die? Y’all aren’t worried about not having savings and decades of not paying into social security? Also…why aren’t you a plumber or truck driver, so you can afford a house?

[@pimpinace_175]

@@86Framer are you a fukn plumber or truck driver? I doubt it, they have options that doesn't include giving the government a cent

[@lieshtmeiser5542]

"Men aren't born to work and pay taxes." Everybody has to do that though.

[@CelestialWoodway]

So how do you survive? If I don't work I don't eat.

[@WeWokeTheGiants]

​@@CelestialWoodwaygo back into the woods where we came from and live on the land.

[@Fallensky17]

“Death of despair”? Ya right. Those are happy men. At the very least numb to witnessing the collapse of what we were promised when we were younger. Society has failed men.

[@86Framer]

You think your average NEET is happy leeching off of their parents? Isn’t it just a slow countdown till they are homeless?

[@cliffthecoolcat]

I have 2 college degrees, a truck drivers license, I can do tile work, I can hang drywall, drive a high-low, operate and repair industrial sewing machines, I can run a mile under 7 minutes.... I mostly stay at home as a single parent. It was a trade-off; society has my son's mother working full time: a low level restaurant worker.

[@daniellesomerfield8799]

You're so gifted and have so much to offer. It's a shame this generation has been dealt such a rough hand with very little hope. All the best, I hope things turn around for you.

[@pootthatbak2578]

Its ok..at least your prepared to work. We all go as the tide pushes us.

[@ThriftyCHNR]

There is more to your story. you probably can't hold a job. Society didn't tell you to do anything. You should be driving that truck and making a decent wage. Families need to play to their strengths.

[@daniellesomerfield8799]

@@ThriftyCHNR The government hasn't exactly set people up to prosper now have they?

[@ThriftyCHNR]

@@daniellesomerfield8799 they are set up to benefit the top 1%. And that's both parties!

[@hehheh382]

too much woke too many mandates

[@kaylenehousego8929]

Amen!!

[@daniellesomerfield8799]

So true

[@sirdiealot53]

What mandate

[@hehheh382]

@@sirdiealot53 all of them? mandate for government jobs mandate for access to university mandate for non fuel powered vehicles mandate this mandate that

[@happydog4929]

I'm a 59 years old electrician, I've worked all my life, weekends, holidays, called to work in the middle of the night. I see people who don't work but have the same things I have, So why work?

[@davidbolha]

Mhm.

[@chrishewitt1165]

I retired at age 55 and Wild Horses wouldn't get me back to work

[@jazzlover10000]

If you got a double in salary and the govt said they'd lay offa the tax ritual for 5 years while you work? You wouldn't do it?

[@garysuarez9614]

According to various sources, nothing of value was lost. Why go to college or attempt to advance yourself when everything wrong in the world is your fault? Men were told they are not needed nor wanted: men listened.

[@MF_DOOMer]

Historically the reason Men worked was because they needed to provide for their Family. Won't they won't mention is how Feminism destroyed the Family Unit.

[@daniellesomerfield8799]

Do you think women feel pressured to work or want to compete with men?

[@arumatai]

@@daniellesomerfield8799 everbody feels pressured to work. men are just more disagreeable and therefore say f*U more easily.

[@danielcraig9666]

@@daniellesomerfield8799 They do it every day.

[@city_of_coompton6832]

@@daniellesomerfield8799 Yes. They want to have their own career so they can fool around with Chad and Tyrone instead of committing to average Beta Bill

[@josephbrown9685]

I agree. The truth should be obvious by now but it’s politically incorrect to hold that particular movement accountable, so they hem and haw about the problem without directly addressing it.

[@CatotheE]

Why do they always talk about men leaving the work force, but not women?

[@leonmorello303]

Because women don't do plumbing, roofing and all dirty stuffs. It is alarming because when they do leave for good it will have a trickle down suffering effect in society since women can't replace a good ol man who do the dirty job right! Unless women fill in the gap, then we always talk about men. if most men give up, are you women gonna fill in all those dirty job? If men give up, are you gonna go in front line as a soldier defending the line face to face with the enemy of the state? You want us to talk about you women? Then less politics, more action in all aspect of life, not just in white collar job of things that you need to excel!

[@timothyblazer1749]

Because women will not do the hard jobs that are required for society to function. Oil riggers, construction, sanitation, electrical, plumbing, cement, Truck driving, mechanic, farming, mining... You see, they never thought men would walk away. En masse.

[@jbscornerstore]

They view men as work slaves

[@chadcadsonvii5258]

Look around you at the infrastructure! Who builds and maintains it? Men are the only NET tax payers(women take more in benefits than they pay in taxes). So essentially, men pay for, invent, build and maintain everything required for society to function. If men stop, society collapses! Very simple to understand why they are worried!

[@markmarcas6523]

Because women are perfect and they do no wrong. Pretty soon the trans will take over women as the chosen people

[@ADHD55]

glad men are waking up and saying no to this evil system

[@victorcode2075]

Why would I care about this society?

[@jazzlover10000]

Because it's really close to providing a good way. Fix what's broken in your life + then push down govt+push up enjoyment.

[@alexmartinez-og8gu]

why would you cry if your replaced from said society? you cry replacement in a society you dont care about?

[@unkono]

Because you live in this society.

[@Mike-xo8on]

​@unkono Men still don't have to care about it tho.

[@timothyofcox2450]

The comments are more in touch with reality than this "expert".

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

I am retired but I am only 55. I want to return to work. There is no way that I am going to do an unconscious bias training course. So I will stay at home and get by on my pension and savings.

[@kaylenehousego8929]

Amen !!!!!

[@trainerdisability]

I’m in the workforce. Three jobs. No one’s offered that training yet but I won’t be quiet if they tried too roll it out

[@delanorrosey4730]

It ain't worth working any longer.

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

@@trainerdisability I am near Nottingham University. I am not sure that they would want to offer employment to an old soldier but I also suspect that they are a hive of Marxism. Hence I haven't bothered dropping around.

[@naughtynat82]

Pretty sure there are plenty of jobs you dont need to do those sorts of things. Fine a small business employer. They are usually a lot less woke...unless run by a woman.

[@SniperKingz]

I saw a landscaping technician job at a local college that required 3 different certifications and licenses revolving around pesticide training, as well as already requiring you to have your CDL. This was a job that only paid $20 an hour by the way..........

[@jamisonwagner1770]

$20/hr to get cancer from spraying pesticides, good deal.

[@buckaroobonzai2909]

Sometimes that training is like only 8 hours, though.

[@SniperKingz]

@@buckaroobonzai2909 You still have to pay for it, fool.

[@axeljairmejoradogarcia8183]

ajjajaajja i would pay them 20 dollar to go f themselves 😂😂😂😂

[@axeljairmejoradogarcia8183]

​@@buckaroobonzai2909 yeah some trainings are expensive cuz are specialized don compare them to curses of uni. about inclusion and bs like that

[@jimturpin6503]

I am retired. I expected to work longer because I think it is good for me. But, I cannot tolerate working under or with such poorly skilled and unmotivated people that have been hired to fill quotas. These people are angry because they cannot do their jobs effectively. I cannot mentor people that are so invested in pretending they have skills that they do not have. I remember a time when I loved to build a team and work hard.

[@danielcobbins8861]

What will happen once customer complaints go off the charts, or buildings collapse, due to people not qualified to design or build?

[@jimturpin6503]

@@danielcobbins8861 Didn't we see a condominium collapse in Florida?

[@JeffCaplan313]

@Jim Turpin Stuff like that is going to increase 100 fold over the next couple decades.

[@danielcobbins8861]

@@jimturpin6503 Yes, the condo in Miami, about 2-3 years ago.

[@jimgriffith4504]

I’m leaving 32 years in the natural gas industry in 3 weeks for the reasons above. Also, and you can’t make this up, our training department instituted and instructs new hires that any senior employee is dangerous and must be stopped from doing work….imagine that. The amount of constant screens and reporting, the amount of constant surveillance ( GPS and now in truck cameras ) plus untrained workers who are now in charge, led by woke managers who don’t call themselves managers but leaders???? I don’t know where this mess goes, but I’m going home…..

[@dm95422]

When you devalue the money, you devalue the desire to work. It’s simply not worth it anymore.

[@adamkays7639]

And still you REFUSE to say why this is happening.

[@PurpleLEANKrabs]

They cant cause they are weak men. Denial is thier only cope now

[@leonmorello303]

Maybe you should say as of why it is happening.

[@impudentdomain]

@@leonmorello303 lots of us already did on these comments

[@gsxr1189]

@@leonmorello303 It's almost like someone else was providing the resources when women hold 80% of consumer debt but only make 72% of what a man does. When marriage rates are down to 1/2 what they've historically been it's as if there are large economic implications when that someone else checks out on marriage by the millions & can now work less.

[@reconditionedman]

Because women vote

[@wanderer5200]

Hold the line. They are weakening. Soon they will break.

[@Jay-pf2cn]

You think they are going capitulate? No. They will become more authoritarian.

[@skylinefever]

There might be more authoritarianism, but even the most hardcore authoritarians lose control. There were several times where the USSR tried to limit alcohol, and even they couldn't handle it, because people felt like they had nothing else to lose.

[@chadcadsonvii5258]

Nah, they'll double down! They'll introduce a bachelor tax soon to shore up the gap.

[@iamaronman]

​@@chadcadsonvii5258only problem with the bachelor tax is you can't squeeze much water out of a dry stone. If the men have nothing what can you really get out of them, and when they start trying to take assets, it's not going to go very well.

[@roundtop2023]

Honestly, its not worth it to work hard anymore. Let women take the lead!!!!

[@theghostoftoby1779]

Let it collapse. I would love to go back to a time where life was much simpler. Keep playing your video games boys.

[@garypotter5569]

"The Statist's objective, always, is to make as many persons as possible, as dependent as possible, on a government as big as possible." -- Robert Lee, "Tracking the Budget Beast", The New American, May 27, 1996

[@sonnybrakes8496]

If you want less of something, for example employment, simply tax it.

[@randytucker3083]

In Texas I feel our family court system and modern women has destroyed their faith in having families.

[@kaylenehousego8929]

Same here in Australia.

[@williamfox1146]

Intelligent men are realizing that women are nothing but drama and trouble. Western civilization has rendered women undesirable and repulsive. Reality.

[@Hellsaint1]

Yep. Men are punished for being men. Now we're missing and people notice, but only when it affects women...

[@TheMegaGamingWizard]

Yep its been happening since 2017

[@kaylenehousego8929]

@@Hellsaint1 Do not allow the activist's to polarise men and women further...

[@SundayMorningRunner]

My brother is an Aeronautical engineer that got fired when the plandemic hit. He gets multiple job offers but he needs to get jabbed to start working. He declines every time. Now we work together, own a business and are planning to retire soon and watch as everything collapses. Enjoy your dystopian hellhole, you helped making it possible.

[@RibeyesteakSachertorte]

Much respect for sticking to your guns. Good luck with your business.

[@timothyofcox2450]

Yes and Anderson was an advocate for the jab and lockdowns.

[@MrJx4000]

Good for you both. As more time passes since the "plandemic" started, it's becoming more obvious and insidiously apparent as to what's really going on. I think the worst is yet to come.

[@RibeyesteakSachertorte]

@@MrJx4000 I wonder if the gulag has cable?

[@SundayMorningRunner]

@@timothyofcox2450 There are a lot of this "experts" going around talking about problems we currently face that were caused by decisions they took and supported. Acting oblivious to the fact they played a huge role in the juncture we currently are in. They are insidious in nature, conniving, greedy, detestable human beings.

[@Mike.Garcia]

We are what society expects

[@up-2date]

Enjoying the decline #MGTOW

[@archie_bunker]

Nomam

[@dm95422]

@@archie_bunker Al Bundy was right all along!!!!

[@TheBuzurk]

Yep i did. Why should i. Let the women do it they want equal rights

[@Solon_The_Lich]

I'm going to sit here to wait for the legions of Female Electricians, Plumbers, Truckers, Bricklayers, Carpenters, Metalworkers, Urban Sanitation Workers, Etc.

[@leonmorello303]

@@Solon_The_Lich then sit, let em fail or success. If that is what you want then do stop doing what you are doing, let em handle it so they can claim their glory by action! I have found classic man syndrome is the one that condescending some group and still doing it because you afraid that they will success someday. Just stop doing and let em break or make it themselves!

[@garysuarez9614]

@@Solon_The_Lich And cell phone tower climbers and constructors. Obviously they are better at it than men, guys were just taking care of thier light work.

[@buckaroobonzai2909]

My job has women that waddle around giving political/woke litmus tests. I tell HR immediately. Nobody has gotten into trouble, but nobody talks to me either. I have been doing this for years.

[@jazzlover10000]

Chatty chat chatters. Yes, this is a problem. There should be a firewall between male and female groups. Let them compete then decide who to keep based on output. But don't mix chicks and the guys.

[@boufns8]

MGTOW attack. It's time men, lay the siege!

[@leonmorello303]

yeah sure, lay the siege in YT post like you most always do!

[@boufns8]

@@leonmorello303 Well that's the point. You don't do anything, what is so hard to understand. That's what a siege means.

[@josephbrown9685]

@@boufns8 You are right on the money. There will always be those who don’t get it.

[@leonmorello303]

@@boufns8 "what is so hard to understand. That's what a siege means." Simply an observation since the siege is not really the siege based on Jan 2023 number, 3.4 percent unemployment! Hence the comment "Like you most always do", meaning you talk too much but the number is the exact opposite, is that hard to understand?

[@boufns8]

@@leonmorello303 Ahahahaha! I was commenting on the video no the current numbers, aaaand those are not to believed. But sure, people will come back to work someday if the benefits run out. But it hasn't happened yet, no matter what your Sleepy Creepy Joe numbers say.

[@kuruptedredneck9154]

Diversity is your strength. You are getting what you want. Not my problem that a 100 "immigrants" can't do the job of one skilled man you and your companies took for granted. Should of been better at management and this wouldn't have happened, that or hire management that has been trained in management not a feminist gender studies major.

[@josephbrown9685]

They’ve mistreated their most valuable workers for far too long and they wonder why those workers don’t want to play the game anymore. That’s what inept management does out of ignorance due to allegiance to a destructive ideology.

[@noahzero9380]

According to his studies this has nothing to do with diversity but men with too much screen time and living off of girlfriends and family 🤭

[@chadcadsonvii5258]

@@noahzero9380 lol, which men live off their gf's. Most men don't have gf's, never mind one that can support 2 people. F-ing idiots.

[@playthroughgames5169]

This is so upsetting and down right incorrect. We all don't play Call of Duty. Some of us play God of War, Elden Ring, Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat ect. Get it right. 😆 🤣

[@andya7179]

Dead Space Remake, and Atomic Heart is really cool 🤣

[@idonojiepius4425]

Boomers man, freaking clueless simpletons

[@RakieemF]

Tekken

[@bb001a]

I play with myself

[@playthroughgames5169]

@@bb001a be careful or you'll go blind. 😆. You must have one heck of a grip on life.

[@sebastienloyer9471]

We don't have a work problem, you have a employee problem. Soon you going to have a economic deficit problem.

[@knightheaven8992]

Absolutely, it is inevitable

[@imrightalwaysright3886]

It ain't worth it

[@amramr9516]

I am happy to see my fellow men taking life more easily. The way we are heading to dystopian society I dont see the point of working harder. I think the government should worry more about how to convince the women to work a lot of over time on mass and that will help the government fill the gap.

[@davidbolha]

Idiocracy movie.

[@bcdside]

So much of this can be blamed on wokeness. Guys, if your workplace is becoming woke and they're penalizing you for not going along with it (workplace retaliation), talk to a lawyer to see if you have any legal options. Obviously this will cost money and that sucks, but at least you explored possibilities.

[@kaylenehousego8929]

Amen !!

[@andoriannationalist3738]

TLDR: if you are white strait and male, forget it. The system is designed to attack whites only.

[@jimmyhvy2277]

So Brent D : let me guess , your a lawyer , Right ?

[@bcdside]

@@jimmyhvy2277No, but I’m acquainted with law people.

[@lieshtmeiser5542]

Woke marxism is a major problem. It isnt the only reason for this epic failure of young men to chase work and responsibilities though.

[@jimturpin6503]

I am concerned that many men are moving east where they will not be held back. Our adversaries are no hobbled by DEI mandates.

[@cali115]

What’s “DEI” stand for?

[@Bobo-ox7fj]

@@cali115 the acronym is DIE, and it stands for Diversity, Inclusion, Equity i.e. how to poison your business from the top down.

[@skylinefever]

Yes, the system will fall before d.i.e. ever gets brought back under control.

[@brazewrech3127]

What place east are you speaking of?

[@jimturpin6503]

@@brazewrech3127 I am speaking about countries that don't hold men back for not being woke enough. Russia, Hungary, India, and China are not hobbled with STEM quotas. China employs more mathematicians than the rest of the world.

[@sueyuyu3654]

van and off grid living is the way.

[@skylinefever]

This is why the system works so hard to prevent people from van lifing it. Landlords need to exploit the poor.

[@DisEnchantedPersons]

I don't blame them at all. The employers think they own you, you're treated like a serf, over worked and under-estimated. So I'll never go back to work for another company.

[@chemtrooper1]

You beat the donkey long and hard enough, it will eventually stop moving and lay down in the middle of the road.

[@redundantlyuseful3366]

It’s not going to get better for a long time… I was asked at work several years ago (5-6) about gender equality in the workplace and I mentioned that whilst men working in my field often had young families and they supported them, often up to 3 dependents, with their wage. This was not true for the opposite gender, in many cases (not all) women would be single or without dependents. Thus for every man out of work due to progressive ideals they also placed children’s futures at risk. Even if the man was divorced etc then he still was supplying up to 50% of his wage to his dependents. So my answer was that whilst in concept workplace 50/50 targets are nice to have the unfortunate issues are increase poverty and targeted wealth redistribution to single people without children.

[@markmarcas6523]

We have a society being run based on ideology. This never goes well. Sadly we got caught in the carnage

[@dhrgkbqxtjr2743]

I dropped out of the workforce in 2017. I used to work 3 jobs and juggle college in my 20s and when I hit 30 I realized I had nothing to show for it. So I decided to take a break for a year and just enjoy life. I downscaled my job scope when looking for my next position in 2018 and started taking call centre work. The great thing about not working is that you have no bills. Sold my car and that was enough to tide me over for 2 years because the only expense I had was food and insurance. Just needed an Uber to take me to the grocery store once a month. In 2019 I decided to take a semi-permanent position working for one of my family business and that got me through the pandemic where I was able to save 80% of my paycheck and put 15k into investments. I have enough to cover my bills, and I dont foresee myself going back into full time employment ever again. I will only work when I need to work. I can make enough in 1 year to financially support myself for 6 years. Being a single adult male is cheap. I don't want for anything. Can't say that if I'm constantly paying for my car, or buying makeup like women do, or have to pay for dates like those guys chasing skirts, or pay for kids like fathers do. I get to relax, take my time, play videogames, enjoy walks around the neighborhood, be part of nature... It's an amazing life when you learn men dont need much to be happy.

[@kaylenehousego8929]

Jee I wonder why it s that our men are not returning to work ? I wonder why, men are becoming despondent...depressed....unmotivated....I wonder why n how it is that so many men are taking PAIN medication every day - no less ? I wonder how n where the med's that these men are taking, are coming from ? That is a very tough question don't ch reckon ?

[@dansmith9724]

Could be just panadol for all the survey says.

[@daniellesomerfield8799]

Yes, pretty obvious heh?

[@kaylenehousego8929]

@@dansmith9724 I know nothing about the survey however when you write " Just panadol every day "- you are saying something pretty concerning .

[@gsxr1189]

Gee I wonder why none of what you've said makes any sense. What does is that marriage rates are down to nearly half what they've historically been. It's almost as if when 80% of consumer debt is held by women who make 72% of what a man does that the resources where coming from someone else. It's as if when it costs 306k to raise a kid that when that someone else checks out on marriage & kids by the millions they're able to afford working less......🤔

[@deconstructingnarcissism3062]

Companies need to learn either to pay more or go under because the wages are too low and don't py for anything. Its not worth it anymore not to me at least.

[@Cba409]

Why should we work when society doesnt reward said work accordingly? We simply live way too comfortably for own good in this country. Besides our parents seem to want to work till they live to a hundred, so theres that too.

[@city_of_coompton6832]

Wages don't keep up with inflation. We're expected to work for less and less every year and be thankful

[@wanderer5200]

@@city_of_coompton6832 Well said.

[@mikegkerr]

How old are you?

[@mreboric8406]

The level and quality of my work is decided directly by the amount of pay I receive

[@maxpaynegk]

I don't have the skills for high paying work from trades right now. When I do, though, could I be guaranteed to get to a point where I can own a home? Better yet, have one built somewhere I won't be bothered? How many years would that take? So I have to break my body for years, being one small cog in a society that doesn't even care for me.

[@PurpleLEANKrabs]

But come on man some boomers 401k matters

[@leonmorello303]

There is an old saying that the only guarantee in life is death. There is THE answer! The other stuff in life is either you get it or you miss it! Whether you do or you don't do is your decision and your motivation when you still here alive!

[@wolfman_jagermeistro8445]

I'm in the same exact position. It all seems futile at times. Im at work crunching numbers in my head realizing it'll take me a decade or more working at these companies to even get close to that goal unless I do something different.

[@maxpaynegk]

@@wolfman_jagermeistro8445 And you have to figure out which job will give you the biggest return on investment to be able to own a home. Not only own a home, own one comfortably. Oh! And many of these conservatives want you to get married and have children. So you have to consider a nice home for a family as well. I'm a conserv as well but I'm in no position to do any of that.

[@voyd1507]

How long does it take to a World standing on its head to collapse?

[@WarbirdPhoenix]

I think that started decades ago,we're seeing the acceleration just now.

[@voyd1507]

@@WarbirdPhoenix I agree

[@Brad-pc3bi]

Low paying jobs with long hours, extreme inflation, extremely low quality women to motivate me , and everything being super expensive =....

[@demetriomontoya320]

This is me! I don't care to work. It makes no sense to have a job right now. The struggle to find meaningful work is real.

[@clawyer9781]

Why would I participate in a system that overtly discriminates against me? As soon as I established financial freedom, I punched out; Best decision I ever made.

[@bennichols1113]

NZ government told me working made me less responsible as a parent 10 years ago.

[@jazzlover10000]

If you're female, then NZ is desperate for kids + kids that will produce. Demographics are ok there, but terrible everywhere else + most likely NZ will be more well... ignored by the supply chain in the future. Philippines, New Zealand, New Caledonia are all candidates for folks working overseas and sending back remittances. Granted NZ has a higher standard of living. For now.

[@tobee1k]

This should be a surprise to no one. People have reached the point where they've realised that spending enormous amounts of time doing something that makes you miserable, unwell and exhausted isn't exactly tempting. The issue isn't with the men, it's with the ridiculous system under which we all live - change things to give people a proper reward for the work they do, a decent work/life balance, and work that isn't so spectacularly dull/pointless/depressing, and you might find this problem goes away.

[@lieshtmeiser5542]

Sitting in front of a screen all day, on drugs, isnt very appealing either I have to say...

[@theLowestPointInMyLife]

@@lieshtmeiser5542dont knock it till youve tried it

[@Mattz1995]

@@lieshtmeiser5542 more appealing than wage slavery.. coming from someone with a 9-5.

[@lieshtmeiser5542]

@@Mattz1995 maybe appealing until you start getting towards the end points of such a "life" .

[@dm95422]

There are 3 pillars that contribute to the downfall of a society : 1) The Worship of Money 2) The Worship of The Individual 3) The Worship Of Stupidity

[@davidbolha]

1a) Debasement of money (diluting the currency supply)

[@DiogenesDworkinson]

Offering men nothing while turning their contributions against them isn't a good way to retain male workers.

[@jackharper6448]

You can't rely on people to just do the right thing just because it benefits society somehow. You have to give people an incentive to do something. What is the incentive for men to get off their computers and go work their butts off so that they can provide for a family one day? None!

[@CosmicCat23]

Become self employed.

[@taylorman40x9]

I quit work and now I'm a Ufologist and conspiracy theorist. My background is a degree in HVAC.

[@jazzlover10000]

Life choices hah!

[@pootthatbak2578]

I know how they feel. Been working steady, no breaks since 1981. I injured my finger at work mid december 2022. Im about to be released by the doctor..my anxiety is spiking concerning simply returning to to my job. I had no idea what pressure i was under during the last 41 years. Work alters your life, work is sacrifice, work is giving of yourself, work is hard. I forgive the young girlie- boys..they wont get paid like i did when i first entered the work force..THE PAY IS TOO LOW!!!!!!

[@impudentdomain]

It isn't just the pay. The last place I worked at filled every single supervisory position with unqualified women. The younger men realized that they would never have a promotion.

[@WaveLord14]

You call people "girly boys" but have anxiety about returning to your job 🤡

[@markmarcas6523]

I am a surgeon. Worked non stop for 20 years. Then Hospital administrators started f-ing with me. I resisted. They fired me. Haven’t worked for over a year. The idea of going back to work is so stressful. Work for what? Believe it or not doctors (esp male) are the lowest on the totem pole. No respect, constant BS. Let the administrators operates on people. It’s not about being weak, it’s about how much BS do i need to put up with.

[@4812megan]

Men are simple creatures, we go where the praise is. For thousands of years we were praised for protecting society and providing for families. This is no longer the case women are now "strong and independent" who "don't need a man" and men are disengaging.

[@57054]

Biggest problem is the diversity and equity policies. my career of 30 yrs, I found that it took more and more interviews to land a job after 2010 even though i had more experience and contacts. I had no problems getting a job after college and up until year 2008 and after. I hear the same problem from other professional men in the workforce today.

[@julianskinner3697]

You❤ got old

[@splaw120]

Just stay home. Maximize vacation, call in sick, live on a minimum income. Spend your free time on yourself. The strong and independent feminist women can cover for us 😂

[@FaithfulFumoFan23]

Sick leave, education leave, say your 5th cousin died. Claim religiosity and you say you can't work on x y z day.

[@HounddogHounddog]

As man we're wining. Get those empowered ladies and diversity quotes in there. There vacuum to be filled

[@jazzlover10000]

The govts of the world will be directing them to have kids shortly. You must know that's coming.

[@jimmyhvy2277]

Young man are getting smarter , They know the Game is Totally Rigged ! Why would you Be Manly , when Men are Evil .

[@minnesotajude8447]

“Give me that, it’s mine.” - Boomers

[@THX5000]

"Let's export all of our manufacturing to China so the top 1% can make more moneys" -Boomers

[@skylinefever]

"you could afford a home, a wife, and three kids if you stopped getting delivery meals and pulled on your bootstraps harder" -Boomers. I'm so glad my father does not fall for the typical boomerisms. He knew what unaffordable rent and a terrible job market are because he lived in NYC in the 1970s. He said that every part of the USA is suffering from it.

[@dakotadak100]

By my own admission, those who don't work and those who are imprisoned have lives that are only marginally worse off than my own.

[@ed5308]

Enron came along and caused my utility to cut 2000 jobs including mine. I just had enough time in to qualify for a buy out package. I took it and no one wanted to hire me at my previous salary. I learned how to get by on less money. No reason to work for a smaller salary then I could get for not working at all. I downsized my house and moved away to cheaper surroundings.

[@frankbush333]

I openly laughed at this like it is a huge mystery to why.

[@Comewithmeifuwant2live]

Hahaha love it! Every guy slowly morphing into Lester Burnham from American Beauty. And all the shaming tactics in the world ain't gonna work either. This is going to get a whole lot juicier, especially when the sparky's & plumbers pack it in.

[@ilovebbq1347]

I recently quit my job of 23 years. 48 not doing drugs. See that I am going nowhere and am just bad and useless. Waiting to die. Maybe there will be value in something on the other side. I am only bad and worthless here. Maybe I should try. I have never done drugs and alcohol. The church at one time said alcohol was a gift from God. I think I may understand why.

[@re8746]

I am 54 and have been in sales for the past twenty eight years. Two years ago I lost a $100k per year job. It has been difficult to replace. I basically took a 40% paycut. When you hit 50, the work force or job market looks alot different. I am now working but not earning what I should. But I go to work daily. Now I have my sites set on my social security and will take it at age 62. That is what I have to look forward to.

[@Christensendesignstudio]

They don’t let teen boys work! When I was a teen I could work a job after school. Now the state legislation says you can work something like 3 hours a week! The system is grooming for laziness! My son is 14 and wants to make his own money. But the opportunities are mostly under the table.

[@coastalhillbilly3419]

Financial Independence Retire Early is not about retiring filthy rich, it’s about locking in a high quality life on a shoestring budget, (compared to well heeled looking ind3ntured $ervant$) 20 x your yearly outgo and your working at things you actually enjoy, care about

[@MrEdrftgyuji]

The other benefit is you can take on more work if you want, but entirely on your own terms. Say if you wanted to save up for a new car or a vacation, you could do that on a part time job. But if the workplace turned out to be too toxic, you could just quit with no regrets, as the basic "costs of living" are already covered.

[@stevenmerritt4960]

Why marry? If a woman wants to be with you, she'll be with you whether you marry her or not. If a woman doesn't want to be with you, she'll divorce you if she is married to you. These days financial success is difficult. If I was a young man, I'd probably not go to college or major in some joke major and focus on appealing to women. Hit the gym and bars, not the books and job. I can't blame men for not going after something with low returns. As for me, i have a masters and a house. It's worked out OK for me. If I married I'd wind up losing my home and poor after alimony/child support etc. I'm not really interested in being beta bux.

[@DeathValleyPaintBallWarrior]

Women are fed up and fleeing too. Moving abroad to finally live my dream to be a mom and a housewife.

[@toddpacker1015]

Weren't you gals strong and independent?

[@paccawacca4069]

I though women fought to get in the workforce, haha🤣

[@EricMHowardII-yh1rn]

The era of indifference concerning the struggles of Boys and Men, Girls and Women this situation needs to be addressed truthfully now. Otherwise this situation will get worse. The unemployment rates does not tell the whole story. Sixty years ago times were different.

[@Unchainedboar]

Almost as if people are starting to realize there is no point in working when you wont get ahead

[@burdenastheygo3763]

Women are leaving the work place by the millions too. On the latest NY times report…

[@pimpinace_175]

oy vey

[@marion4549]

Sounds like the beginning of the end. Alarming!

[@joshmuirhead1154]

The women at my work are making me leave mine.

[@jennetal.984]

I’m right here, Work left me

[@paccawacca4069]

Work discriminates against men en masse.

[@nathanfrancis2801]

Men worked harder when they had families to support. Im divorced now and only work half as much as i used to. i now enjoy travelling, hobbies and only only need half as much money as ineeded when i was married

[@jessedevlin8965]

Distressing? Why is it distressing? Our work a holic ancestors did too much. That’s what-my family was in 4 wars, lost businesses, worked till we got cancer, poisoned, threatened… then we believe in school and the kids are hooked on drugs. Then you have a problem with a man whose ancestors have been here for all those generations living in a house built in 1800s ?

[@SurfbyShootin]

*"I work 9-5 and make six figures. My hairline has receded and I havnt gotten laid in 3 years. Am I really any better off than that part time bagger at my local store?"*

[@kidsoxoxox]

'No Surrender' by Hiroo Onoda (WW2 Japanese soldier 30 year jungle hold out). No surrender, No Collaboration with the enemy. Gents, don't get angry, get even like the Poles in the communist era and Onoda. Minimal Collaboration with the enemy, no weekend Dad, No community involvement or volunteering, No nationalism, No inheritances, work slow, play dumb, make lots of work sabotages, sorry mistakes, be argumentative, live alone. The Poles who adopted such an uncollaborative approach, and WW2 Allied POWs, were the ones who lasted the distance. The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws - Tacitus

[@PaulH581]

Imagine men realizing they don’t have to work as hard for women who will leave them anyway. We’ll actually get to keep all of the fruits of the labor we bother to do rather than the half that’s left after the divorce.