Mullvad and Tor Linked Up to Make a Web Browser

[@MentalOutlaw]

Sneed it or feed it? Merch available at based.win/

[@yoinkinshploinkin69]

see, the url is a subtle joke

[@AveryGameing3445]

@Mental Outlaw I think you should make a video about goguardian because it is a spyware and it spys on students on there school chromebooks and teachers can see tbere screen look through there camera record there microphone and see what your typing and they can see everything with goguardian like it should be illegal it is an invasion of our privacy

[@Assault_Butter_Knife]

God damnit I wanted to make that joke

[@nirgunawish]

wow branded tote bag for only 40

[@mostcrazy]

The FitnessGram™ Pacer Test is a multistage aerobic capacity test that progressively gets more difficult as it continues. The 20 meter pacer test will begin in 30 seconds. Line up at the start. The running speed starts slowly, but gets faster each minute after you hear this signal. [beep] A single lap should be completed each time you hear this sound. [ding] Remember to run in a straight line, and run as long as possible. The second time you fail to complete a lap before the sound, your test is over. The test will begin on the word start. On your mark, get ready, start.

[@realchiknuggets]

You should definitely make a browser tier list and a search engine tier list

[@Woka1010]

Yes

[@retrocomputing]

1. Ungoogled chromium 1. Presearch Here you go

[@milesfarber]

It would be VERY biased because of BingGPT

[@kvazium]

+ dark web search engine

[@user-03-gsa3]

​@@milesfarber what's BingGPT?

[@Zenoff64]

Mullvad supports split tunneling so you can choose what browsers or programs you want to go through the VPN and which ones not to.

[@oz_jones]

Based

[@Netmunk]

yea this is easily done when using the mullvad app

[@mondgrille]

On Linux you have to launch every app that is supposed to be excluded from using the VPN tunnel as "mullvad-exclude " or from the GUI split tunneling menu (every time!). If you only want the browser to use the tunnel that would be quite annoying.

[@Evan-qi3yz]

wondering why he did not do any research lmao

[@gustavappelros3473]

​@@mondgrille I fucking hate this. I just want qBittorrent and occasionally a browser to use the VPN :(

[@uuu12343]

Im surprised tor is so humble as to let mullvad take the entire name of the browser

[@LuluTheCorgi]

tor is funded by the us government, why would they care about marketing

[@r0e404]

I think tor being in the name would be worse

[@cheater00]

"I knew her name rhymed with something... Mulva??"

[@SepehrKiller]

@@iridium8341 why?

[@SepehrKiller]

@@r0e404 why?

[@lanceuppercut_]

As soon as I heard the news of Mullvad making a browser I thought "I wonder if Mental Outlaw has already made a video about this"

[@daedalus_00]

I made-a dis-a doughnut just for you Don Homer.🍩

[@lanceuppercut_]

@@daedalus_00 mmm... grazie.

[@ВалерийШадрин-л5г]

i'm loving it! a private "the crowd" browser with JS blocking, ublock out of the box and comfortable connection speed, and no captcha and blacklist hell

[@paegr]

I wonder how long it's gonna be before the Mullvad founders have a "roundtable discussion about combatting antisemitism on the internet" with Jonathan Greenblatt

[@muhdiversity7409]

They''ll go thru "gamers are toxic" then "won't someone think of the children" then "the patriarchy is oppressing the wamens" to "everyone hates the rainbows" rinse and repeat.

[@s3quencial]

true

[@Gh0_-st]

@@muhdiversity7409 classic 👌

[@ForgotMyPasswd000]

What a fucking weird ass comment to type, is there something you need to admit?

[@Assault_Butter_Knife]

guys have you tried being a bit more optimistic? It's literally a browser, the market is full of them. If it doesn't work nobody loses anything because you can simply not switch. If it does however then there's something to be gained by everyone. I really don't see the point of being outraged/concerned for something that hasn't even happened yet

[@Sypitz]

Anything that makes something a pain in the ass for glowies, I’m down for.

[@MrRaja]

Amen 🎉🎉

[@britox.6216]

every time baby!

[@Intelwinsbigly]

That pfp really puts a bow on your comment, just perfect.

[@MrSilk13642]

You aren't slowing us down one bit, wagey. Keep thinking cringe like this will stop us. ;-)

[@Sypitz]

@@MrSilk13642 nice roleplay.

[@_modiX]

I think Mullvad Browser "does" the font cache, thus it can be used for tracking in that area.

[@thomascrabtree]

So I just checked and they don’t, they use a font library from an inbuilt database to match the most similar to what the page requests and serve you that.

[@_modiX]

@@thomascrabtree So in other words, the font cache works but serves a local file nonetheless, so that the privacytests font cache result is a false positive, since the function is not causing any privacy issues despite being available.

[@user-zx1yy1pg7q]

they don't. idiot

[@opus_X]

Fun fact: Mullvad is Swedish for ”Mole” (the animal), and is the company’s mascot

[@lejoshmont2093]

moles are good at tunneling

[@zzz23523]

I trust Swedes

[@matheusfaria7230]

@@zzz23523 didn't they just join nato?

[@jima4971]

​@@matheusfaria7230 no we didnt, Finland did

[@awehellnah]

@@matheusfaria7230 we got denied thankfully

[@Reformedtousen]

Been using the browser for a week now it's very good

[@SkegAudio]

For the tracking query test. All you need to do is feed ublock a link to its filter.

[@terryperez7615]

Explain more

[@terryperez7615]

@@SkegAudio interesting

[@SkegAudio]

@@terryperez7615 wait is my comment deleted?

[@Jojo-lg5jm]

@@SkegAudio can u post it again?

[@SkegAudio]

@@Jojo-lg5jm Yeah, I'll once I get home.

[@xntumrfo9ivrnwf]

Mullvad has been awesome for many years - I'm also very happy with them

[@AR15ORIGINAL]

Personally, I like the concept of Mullvad Browser and like the idea of a Brave competitor, but want to see it get more time in the oven. As it stands right now, it's inferior to both Brave and LibreWolf, but has the potential to be better than both in every way. I just hope they don't make themselves into a niche browser but rather become something that can be used by anybody. Personally, I separate my browsers in three tiers: privacy respecting but very usable (Brave), less usable but even more private (Arkenfox/LibreWolf, currently Mullvad seems to be trying to get in here) and finally Tor/Whonix.

[@KristjanThomasHaaristo]

i hope they just yoink all good features of other browsers into the ultimate gigachad browser,

[@anon-ud9mq]

I love using Brave mainly because of the claim that it prevents ad-trackers and ads.

[@realchiknuggets]

@@anon-ud9mq browser extensions gg ez

[@marlon.8051]

@@anon-ud9mq nextdns and librewolf with adblocker works good for me

[@anon-ud9mq]

@@realchiknuggets I’m on iOS lmao

[@CreatingAlong]

Im impressed you didn't try to affiliate the mulvad link. Good on you.

[@GavinBogie]

Been using it the past 2 days. It’s really nice.

[@strixytom]

new anti-RESTRICT collab just dropped 🔥🔥🔥

[@guest1754]

Mullvad browser is to Firefox like Brave is to Chromium. Both fill the niche of maximum privacy while still being user-friendly, but are based on entirely different browsers.

[@DarkSoul-ds2]

HOLY SHIIIT MEGA BASED!!! I'M COOOMING!!! I won't trust it unless it's open source or audited. Also it's about time Mullvad is audited again.

[@antimattercarp2720]

Who you trusting?

[@Nik-lf4rw]

@@antimattercarp2720 I guess he doesnt have anything installed

[@wendemuth]

Its open source

[@impoppy9145]

Do you trust open source malware too? Just wondering for market research purposes.

[@w花b]

​@@antimattercarp2720 themselves

[@nick-barm]

your videos keep going into an unending buffer moment after 1 and a half minutes

[@zakariaabdimohamed7063]

update your revanced app.😄

[@jcole1679]

I use brave, both on my phone and pc. No real complaints, pretty good experience.

[@Blackout00745]

the last sound of the video sounds like you lit a well deserved joint after making another informative video xD

[@BlueFox61]

I love their VPN mainly because they use an account pin as the only method of sign in, also you can mail cash

[@oz_jones]

YOU CANT MAIL MONEY REEEEE Glowies seething

[@primethread]

Mullvad supports split tunneling on grapheneos, they should be able to add that to this.

[@MrRaja]

Let's goooooo... I love mullvad 😮🎉🎉🎉 this is revolutionary

[@SonOfMeme]

Ah I see: They're trying to solve the energy crisis by creating the brightest-glowing thing in the known universe

[@Lolisen8]

Mullvad supports split tunneling, can be found under settings in their application

[@slavsquatsuperstar]

Finally, I don’t have to be afraid of the FBI seeing me search “How to make class in Java”

[@tigana]

Epic. But has anyone noticed Mullvad VPN speeds being slow lately?

[@bignerd3783]

the hug of death :(

[@synfuel]

yep, been having trouble with connections, specifically the connection it takes a long time to find a stable server to connect to I have to manually change server to try find a good one.

[@papadane6807]

I’ve had no problems at all with their servers. Could be the specific location you’re trying to reach? Who knows.

[@dafoex]

Probably as a result of them getting more popular

[@tigana]

@@papadane6807 It happens with majority of websites and different VPN locations, the internet becomes fast again when I turn it off

[@guilhermekfwst]

What would be your choice, LibreWolf or Firefox customized with your own settings (the ones you showed in past videos)?

[@tacticalcenter8658]

Librewolf

[@rb.x]

LibreWolf definitely.

[@basicbasedidot2547]

@@oz_jones just to clarify by kikefox you don't mean kike-fox cause that's an ethnic slur for Jewish people

[@ConernicusRex]

Brave.

[@bettercalldelta]

both are pretty much equivalent except a few settings like advanced fingerprint blocking and automatic addon updates, but LibreWolf is just less of a pain in the rear end to set up

[@Nry_Chan]

A fun topic to look into, the Dutch police is sending out letters to users of breach forums. Would've guessed that people's opsec would've been better

[@ironic.]

This is awesome, been using Mullvad since forever so I’m downloading this rn

[@quarantinedconversations4026]

Mullvad out here being better than every vpn and truly privacy conscious absolute chads

[@soup-enthusiast]

Inside of the Mullvad app, under split tunneling in settings, you can choose to open programs that will bypass the VPN tunnel. Is this not the functionality that you were looking for?

[@lejoshmont2093]

Any way to go about that if your not using the app/client on endpoints because its running network wide?

[@tissuepaper9962]

@@lejoshmont2093 iptables

[@Nexalian_Gamer]

Ever since I've heard of this bill, I've been strongly considering building a portable cyberdeck. If the bill passes I would definitely not trust a VPN alone to keep me hidden. I could easily take the cyberdeck across town and do whatever I need over there and then come back home.

[@mutestingray]

I know, I know just because you’re not doing anything bad doesn’t mean you shouldn’t take your privacy seriously but damn shawty what the hell you doing on the internet that you have to go across town? That just seems a bit excessive imhsapo

[@Nexalian_Gamer]

@@mutestingray Sailing the high seas isn't exactly something I'd want to be traced back to me

[@oz_jones]

Cyberdeck? Just shoot straight and never trust a corp, choomba. And stay safe in the Combat Zone.

[@platinumsun4632]

@@Nexalian_Gamer Hmm your not a Europoor no one cares in America.

[@odg1190]

​@@klwthe3rdIt's the thing that David had installed on his back in Cyberpunk Edgerunners

[@gumm]

I love mullvad, this message is brought to you by a non-sock

[@_virendrasingh]

The Internet and eventually the world would be a better place if the govt got interested to initiate teaching non-tech people basics of the internet privacy and security but instead of that They find it easy to put restrictions on us.These are just violation of human rights in a different form.

[@SchemingGoldberg]

Why would the government do that? The government wants to control and enslave people, the government doesn't want to help people. The government is not your friend or ally.

[@xX_Lol6_Xx]

Under the excuse of "tHe ChILdReN". It'd be better if they actually made their job instead of this crap.

[@Bllksem]

In what way does that benefit the government? If nothing else it’d make people more aware of their spying which is obviously not something they want.

[@user-zx1yy1pg7q]

no shiz sherlock

[@GrandNebSmada]

I'm not kidding 20 minutes before I saw this video I thought to myself I should really figure out what the best VPN service is by asking on the LTT forum. This isn't the first time an occurance has happened like this for me with your videos.

[@tacticalcenter8658]

Ltt forums are not intelligent.

[@miguidieu06]

I am not impressed. Lots of people thought randomly of a close relative the day before they died without knowing about it. You just have a really high probability of thinking something that Outlaw will make a video about soon since you follow the latest cyber security news. It is really cool that your questions get answered quickly tho

[@oz_jones]

@@miguidieu06 Or to be more specific: because said relative died, you remember thinking about them. But that's literally splitting hairs.

[@anon_y_mousse]

I think to really have true security and privacy, we'd need to have an entirely new internet with a new standard. Just as a point of contention, I think the browser shouldn't report the height of the canvas or screen, and the width should be adjusted to account for a standard defined scroll bar so that everyone who has the same resolution but changes the scroll bar width would be reported as the same width.

[@konakun7878]

This browser is even better for Mullvad users.

[@rb.x]

Safari (and hence the new browser Orion)’s anti fingerprinting is very effective, and is based on never running the fingerprinting JavaScript in the first place. Add an anti tracker block list such as those included with iVPN or Mullvad - or an add on like ublock origin - and you’re good to go in most cases.

[@mastersanskartiwari]

It just glows a different colour

[@rb.x]

@@mastersanskartiwari what do you think of Kagi, the company behind Orion? Honest question.

[@jure.]

I think this will enlarge the target on Mullvad's back even more, especially if it becomes widespread. The glowies are surely not going to leave Mullvad alone forever.

[@thomascrabtree]

Well know when Mullvad is compromised when they stop accepting anonymous cryptocurrency like Monero as payment and force you to make an account, which they don’t at the moment. No accounts = no way to track subscribers.

[@BlackBallBouncer]

> implying this browser isn't a honeypot

[@ToodleNoodle]

​@@BlackBallBouncer you believe it is? I don't know nothing about nothing so I'm doing all the learning I can!

[@Z3r0Sk83r]

​@@ToodleNoodle it could be. I believe Sweden, where Mullvad is based, isn't part of the US's intelligence network, however.

[@jure.]

@@BlackBallBouncer Uh oh is this an actual thing I missed? I mean there's always a possibility, but is there a specific reason you say that?

[@tictac1020]

Sick vid dude. I've been loving Mullvad for a couple of years now and this project looks like it could actually become popular to a degree. Maybe in the Year of the Linux Desktop????????? I wish you'd mentioned whether it was based on Chromium or FF. I haven't looked it up yet but the UI looks like FF which gave me hope. The fact that no real alternative browser has deviated from Chromium and helping break up the browser hegemony.

[@hilohahoma4107]

Mullvad is the goat and getting "goatier" lol hopefully, cheers.

[@fattony9227]

Mullvad is based on FF.

[@guardianvalor962]

The most ambitious crossover in our timeline.

[@Kingsquad2011]

Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I'll give it a spin

[@artvandelay6457]

Seems much easier to run a split tunnel. This can be accomplished through a number of GUIs and the terminal. Mullvad is best bet for VPN.

[@harmonylivingston3460]

Well, if you really want to segment your traffic you can built an anon vm and use that for your privacy/hackerman stuff, and a different vm bound to a different interface for your surface web stuff. At that point you might as well just use qubes os though imo.

[@lightyagami1752]

You want Mullvad browser only traffic to go through the Mullvad VPN while allowing other network traffic to bypass the VPN? I don't think that sort of setup would even meet the definition of a VPN, which is an OSI Layer 3 protocol, so pretty much all traffic on the network stack needs to be routed through it (with the exception of Layer 2 Link Local stuff, which is strictly local network). To differentiate by application, you need to focus on Layer 7, that's really high up. I don't think you can do this without full virtualisation (basically running two machines with separate stacks on one hardware layer). A proxy can be more selective (port 80/8080/443 traffic) but that is not a VPN.

[@schwingedeshaehers]

Add a second virtual network adapter, that can be used for the VPN, and than say the browser, to use that one. And/or link that to a local proxy, which the browser can use.

[@supersophisticated9943]

I think what you mentioned about the whole computer connecting to the VPN service *does* sound pretty bad. I mean, wouldn't that mean that if someone wanted to have two browsers open at once (for whatever reason), if they tried signing into like Gmail or something on one, it could be linked easier with activity on Mullvad Browser? I am not the most technically-minded, but this sounds like a security flaw.

[@maritsux9985]

I am asking me the same

[@___Sunflower]

Wow that's unusual, metal outlaw is using Windows, 8:31 I assume it's in a VM but still that's unusual for him.

[@BuetifullPersun]

Must have been gaming

[@electricz3045]

@@BuetifullPersun you can game fine in Linux so you don't need windows to game.

[@XxZigonxX]

​@@electricz3045you can game fine but not perfectly in Linux. it still had problems

[@electricz3045]

@@XxZigonxX I don't have any problems when playing steam games and games from epic. Just use steam proton and heroic games launcher.

[@wiggleninja]

Yay you made a video about it I’m currently using it

[@MysticMylesZ]

2:30 I have seen these specifically on a tech podcast a lot... which is uuuh an interesting place. Always talking about an invest and sometimes even having a conversation with other bots so seem more real... obviously with some real commenter mixed in there

[@m3rks4tz]

at min 1:43 before some special topic starts the video stops and the loading icon appears. its only possible to watch the rest of the video if that special part is skipped. Anyone else noticing this?

[@bccsivxx-xxivvii]

First I've heard of mullvad. Thanks for sharing.

[@ChiekoGamers]

I don't bootlick corporations but Mullvad is chad.

[@tuckerbugeater]

i love my internet ghetto

[@VaibhavShewale]

damn looks useful, is the browser paid?

[@dazonic]

That screen resolution thing is cool. It should stretch rendered page and then zoom in or out so you don’t really notice it

[@Chilgus768]

Thanks for another great piece of content 🎉

[@bnywwwww]

the crossover we didn't know we needed

[@bogganalseryd2324]

Mullvad means "mole" in Swedish , so CAN we trust them?

[@rb.x]

As in burrowing through a tunnel. A VPN is a tunnel.

[@bogganalseryd2324]

Ah It was too early in the morning, i should have gotten that

[@speedytruck]

Firefox is actually more private and secure than Librewolf, even according to your chart. Librewolf also lags behind Firefox updates (its upstream) which makes it very insecure as you're basically running an outdated Firefox. That could make something like 0-days even worse than they already are. Is it worth taking that risk just to have some feature enabled by default (which can be enabled anyways in Firefox)? I don't think so.

[@br3nnabee]

To be honest, I think I'll be giving Mullvad some time before considering switching over from Brave (which yeah, I know also has some issues) because it's still a new thing, as well as because to this day, I still prefer chromium to firefox.

[@sampikprod]

I fucking love this mole, my favourite mascot

[@lukemccullough9279]

Mullem Vadem and Tor Sheisty linked up! Need it or keep it?

[@kernelofficial]

It's a good day to be a Mullvad user

[@adrianbonski1849]

For how new it is, its really good

[@rijaja]

I still don't understand how letterboxing helps. Whether you use a small or large screen, it's still going to resize to something slightly smaller but still close to your display's resolution. Now on top of being able to tell apart Tor/mullvad users with different resolutions, you can also tell apart those who use a standard browser form those who don't. It makes tracking worse. At least if it changed randomly for every site and session it would be a bit better

[@2rotten4you]

I am gonna wait a bit on this.

[@The_Hell_Lord]

I wish there was a service that routed tor's exit node traffic through a clear web friendly ip. obviously it needs some kind of user verification to prevent bot abuse. or maybe it should just block login pages if that's possible because what's the point of using tor if you're signing into something on the clear web?

[@blueguitar4419]

I was gonna say doesn’t Nord have a split tunnel where you can pipe a single app through the VPN and the rest remains on your private subnet?

[@Sebastian-J-Liber]

nice 👍🏻 a Mullvad browser Metamask extension would be nice.

[@baumstamp5989]

i tried it, it's pretty lean and clean. but it is really slow tbh. thorium (avx2 flag enabled) is around 2-3 times faster on inital (uncached) load of same websites. still looking for that "privacy + speed + minimalism + (optional vpn/tor)" all in one package...

[@Oxygenationatom]

Same bro

[@DreadfulUtopia]

Speaking of Mullvad, would you be willing to make a video showing how to enable Mullvad VPN on Steam OS? I'm a long time Mullvad VPN user but I can't seem to figure out how to enable it on my Steam Deck. I saw one guide online saying that I needed to use their Open VPN config files and set them up in KDE's network settings but I find that kind of restrictive and complicaed. Thanks mate.

[@derram0k]

Now if Mullvad would only release a flatpak of their VPN so I can use it on my Deck.

[@tacticalcenter8658]

You dont want to use flat pack's

[@SuperFranzs]

Flatpaks, as great as they are, aren't made for system-level stuff like this. But as the steam deck runs on KDE Plasma, you can just add a wire WireGuard connection in the network settings.

[@chubbycatfish4573]

I'mma have to look into mullvad.

[@gregoryallen0001]

am i crazy or didn't i hear that TOR was compromised by intl intel taking control of a critical mass of the server layers tor uses 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Dark_Detective]

Firefox has anti fingerprinting tech like faking screen resolution but it is not enabled by default.

[@oalfodr]

I do not understand how spoofing screen size helps being harder to fingerprint. Most screens have standard size. Leting them know I have 1920x1080 sounds much safer to me than having some random or weird size.

[@grave9192]

im pretty sure thats what it usually gets spoofed to since thats what most people use

[@Dambedei1]

The browser also reports the window size of your browser. Mine is pretty unique because I resized my taskbar. So it makes sense to spoof it.

[@hardrocklobsterroll395]

What laptop do you have that’s 19:10??

[@kenmack]

10:30 That was my first thought after downloading. That is something that should absolutely be included.

[@nicholascanada3123]

The litecoin of browsers

[@MickeyMishra]

There is some distortion on your audio on the left channel.

[@PerpetualPreponderer]

How does the core browser product make $$$ & be financially sustainable as a business?

[@Sunil-dl9ep]

Closed source, open source or partially open source ?

[@logancontracier7125]

Definitely gonna try it cause brave has some issues with some sites

[@tacticalcenter8658]

Will mullvad make a mobile browser?

[@anonanon3066]

At least on my setup, I configured Linux to just route specific connections through mullvad. It's not that hard. But... this is not application based, but connection based. Like, certain net masks.

[@Razzbow]

I am so hyped, after im not broke i might switch back to mulvad and from librewolf to mulvad browser. Hopefully its not chromium.

[@bigtymer4862]

Wouldn’t you have to trust mullvads endpoints?

[@schwingedeshaehers]

Only partly, your websites should be encrypted, so they know "only" your IP, and the IP address of the target

[@amir3515]

@@schwingedeshaehers so they know what sites you visit

[@schwingedeshaehers]

@@amir3515 Maybe, but not sure. There can be more than one site at a IP. But yes, often they can get the domain (but not the thing behind the slash)

[@Monojoe]

I assume all new "privacy" browsers are honeypots

[@weignerg]

Why dont you run the browser in a VM? Then only the browser VM would go through the VPN.

[@dookiepost]

I think this has convinced me to move from Cyberghost VPN to mullvad. Good pitch

[@madrexertheboredtm7728]

last time i was this early mental outlaw was actually already conformed to society 💀💀

[@holeefuk8535]

when is the Based Browser coming?

[@User-dj2if]

Commenting for the algorithm

[@MrRaja]

You're second 🥈

[@rickybhattacharya6]

Hey Kenny, You stated that Mullvad Browser is made in association with Tor Project, or Tor Browser. Since Tor Browser is made on Gecko, so is Mullvad Browser, and Gecko is the architecture of Mozilla Firefox. So, Mullvad Browser is literally a yet another Firefox Browser. Hope this information is convincing. Regards, *_~Ricky_*

[@acorgiwithacrown467]

The whole screen size thing has baffled for quite a while, why not just let people resize the page after it has already loaded? If the website is designed properly it should scale appropriately. So like rather than the website scaling the website to fit your browser, the browser scales the website after receiving the website contents.

[@omkarpatwardhan3070]

Please make a video on the orion browser for mac, based on webkit with zero telemetry and native ad and tracker blockers.

[@yash1152]

5:39 wow, so many crosses for vivaldi

[@Derhemion]

What I understood from the video is that Brave is a monster in security