What Are The Best Classes for Dungeons in TBC Classic (Tier List)

[@pcmnoname]

i can understand that some ppl might choose their tbc class duo because of dungeon farming, but in case of farming rep: Every raider need those rep, so in the end you need to get everyone in your raid set up and not the optimal farmer :D otherwise you need to wait for all those "less optimal" ppl. In case of late tbc, it might be different. As for restodruid and rez: if you pair up with a palatank(or other pala/priest/shaman) it negates your only negative point.

[@mezmerizer9422]

I've been playing hpriest or hpala on every private TBC realm and the best comp for me was always: Tank: paladin dps: lock, mage, shaman

[@divux15]

Shaman enha or elemental?

[@pedrogil6266]

@@divux15 ele

[@rhzyo]

Sleeping on war

[@shatter382]

You said you wouldn''t be suprised to see groups with 3 warlocks leveling? correct me if i'm wrong though, but isn't seed of corruption only available at level 70, which i assume would drop them a few tiers until level 70

[@zak8475]

dream combo for me in most Dungeons for tbc is Prot Pala for aoe tanking, Warlock for big aoe dmg, Frost Mage for good damage and nice control although 2 warlocks is nice, Shadow Priest for mana regen - will just make whole run go faster and they can do OK damage from spamming SWP, and then resto shaman for spell dmg totem (which also boosts prot pala threat) nice aoe heals and good single target heals not to mention hero. With this group i think you get good CC, aoe dmg, single target dmg for bosses, 2/3 ressers which is always nice and good buffs like blessings, totems, fort (if u have priest) Nice vid i agree with most selections

[@yvngsavage8249]

what i realized in classic was that even tho in TBC u want to stack 2 locks or 2 mages for dungeons.. they're gonna have to fight each other for gear. So it would be better or everyone would be happy if the group is more diverse so people arent fighting each other for gear.

[@cameronstrathdee1772]

from another perspective, every piece of gear that drops that nobody can use is just a waste. especially if you're gear farming, then, it's good to have a little bit of everything.

[@Permuh]

@@cameronstrathdee1772 Oooor you bring a disenchanter and split the trade goods evenly

[@yvngsavage8249]

@@Permuh then this will be after everyone's geared already

[@swiftjuice168]

@@yvngsavage8249 Warriors will roll on Leather if it's "better" than what they have. Hunters, too. Even Shamans will. Paladins will compete against S.Priests/Shamans for 1H Maces and Mages/Warlocks. Warriors and Paladins will compete for the same gear, etc. Either way you build your group, gearing will be competitive.

[@MetaGoblin]

You'll be farming the dungeons so much this probably won't be an issue especially with SL,SV,SHH

[@avereth]

One of the other major perks about prot paladins is that since they generate such a massive threat lead they are free to remove debuffs from everyone with cleanse while they tank leaving the healer free to heal or add some dps and can negate movement impairing effects with freedom.

[@kel12123]

I mean sure if you're rushing through normal dungeons, but are we also talking about heroics here? It's pretty tough to take on more then one stack at a time even with paladin(he'll just explode) and a druid or warrior can hold agro on 1 stack pretty easy even if they aoe.

[@fisher00769]

Also, if I am doing Auch: Crypts the only heal I am taking is a resto druid, or someone I already trust that they can heal the first boss...

[@mikeoxlong3676]

Me: I can't wait to use crowd control in heroics! Wow community: this video

[@cjl2640]

If they release 2.0 dungeons/talents/gear you'll be CCing stuff for a bit. If they release 2.4.3 dungeons/talents/gear it will get AoE'd down. And if it's the latter there won't be as much dungeon farming as the video makes it out to seem.

[@fisher00769]

Yeah try doing this in MGT HC, you're not gonna have a good time, you really need some CC there.

[@karolstopinski8350]

@@shanehodges6980 still with pugs its safer to go single target and pull as little mobs as possible. People start spamming aoe, threat is not controlled, some mobs start running towards mages and warlocks, tank starts to run back and forth trying to catch the runners, healers start stressing to heal the clothers and suddenly you find your ghost running from graveyard to dungeon entrance.

[@joemustoe2226]

The oblivion music is so relaxing when watching your vids, great work mate keep it up.

[@GunTalkMusicYT]

Resto druid is by far best heal for 5 man dungeons. Best healing, best mana eff, best mobility, best defensive cds, combat ress, innervate, aoe tranqulity, stealth runs, 2 instant heals

[@yvngsavage8249]

technically, 3 instant heals? lifebloom/rejuv/NS

[@GunTalkMusicYT]

@@yvngsavage8249 Yes you have right, if you time it correctly

[@jimmyandersson9938]

Yeah but missing a ress spell is a good reason to down rank it in a dungeon grp imo

[@yvngsavage8249]

@@jimmyandersson9938 agreed. ppl are definitely gonna die more in heroic dungeons

[@KalDayne]

@@jimmyandersson9938 Battle Rez only becomes an issue if you have a Warrior tank, and no druids, Priests, or Shamans as DPS. which there will be quite a few Shadow priests around along with Elemental/Enhancement Shamans. Also a Resto Druid will be also be good in a Spell cleave group. maybe not as much as the resto shaman boosting damage. but having an innervate will certainly help those mages keeping the group moving.

[@KalDayne]

I disagree. When you say a holy paladin is good for an average group, that doesn’t make sense. They don’t have Hots or multi target heal. If a pull gets out of hand they are the worst healer

[@tophgettho]

but on the other hand : damn holy palas are first to be geared since they get that free healplate every raid :P but poorly geared holys def have massive problems in certain dungeons.

[@GunTalkMusicYT]

Paladin is by far worst heal in 5 man dungeons

[@mugiwara27]

@@GunTalkMusicYTPrzemek Ferguson aka Pandaren Brewmaster

[@tophgettho]

@@GunTalkMusicYT bananas will reign any 5 man :P

[@jamesmarshall3465]

Paladins get beacon of light in TBC. A multi target heal.

[@karolstopinski8350]

How often do you see a wipe of 4 people but healer standing out of combat? Afaik the mobs in dungeon dont drop aggro so healer will wipe too. Your only option is shamans rebirth then so all other heals are out of question. If that`s your priority you`re better off with hunter or mage dropping aggro and using engineering jumper cables to rez someone who can rez others.

[@reuterss306]

Disagree. It maybe isn't the best comp, but going in with 3 arms, resto shaman and pally tank was INSANE when we tried it. Naxx geared just blasting through dungeons in no time.

[@machomadness4522]

I'm always top dps as arms warrior in ZG and dungeons dominating adds with sweeping strikes and hitting very hard. You're either very wrong about arms in dungeons or something changes in tbc with arms? Or maybe gear dependency? But I love arms and I'm sticking with it when tbc comes

[@belof449]

it's prob because most don't understand that to do crazy dungeon dps as arms you want to be tanking one of the mobs or two, so you gain rage and enrage, whereas most people never do this and do barely any dps, that or they don't have wf.

[@RatzerLeaf]

My Group comp for tbc. Tank - Paly Healer - Druid Dps - Mage - Lock - Ele Shaman.

[@KVPMD]

I guess I would prefer a holy priest personally but this still looks super solid. I was a tank pala in TBC and though WotLK was even a bit better it was a whole lot of fun and easyy to find groups for dungeons all the time.

[@Gulga123]

i would change druid healer to disci priest has alot of boni for spell caster, like power infusion and inproved divine spirit, otherwise good group to totaly destroy boss mobs

[@RatzerLeaf]

@@Gulga123 How dare you, im the druid Ofcourse !

[@Gulga123]

@@RatzerLeaf haha yeah thats a bit of a problem than^^

[@GozuTob]

Druid sucks in TBC. Shaman is top 2

[@sandreid87]

11:00 Yes, just recruit 3 warlocks, with their Seed of Corruption for LEVELING - You know, Seed of Corruption... That abilty they learn AT LEVEL 70. GREAT FOR LEVELING GUYS. Also gimping yourself by bringing a rogue, just to open a door in SHH is kinda dumb. Blacksmithing keys can open that door. Dont bring a CC-less, single target, buff-less DPS class. You'll have a BS in the group if you got one melee. If you want to bring a melee, there's just no reason to have that melee be a rogue. And how on earth does the ability to open a single door, which makes you save 1 min, make a class jump up two entire tiers? lmao. 12:45 Okay, so now you're just contradicting yourself even more. Earlier you said "bring a BM hunter cus it's good at nuking that 1 target with Seed of Corruption." Now you're saying "bring a fury warrior cus its good at pop Seed of corruption on everything". I feel like your entire mindset is just focused on locks and nothing else. On top of that, you're arguing other classes are good, because they can do DPS. Cool. That's literally their job. Doesn't really mean they're A or B tier because of that, though. If the fury warrior has serious aggro issues, zero cc, low survivability, and mediocre dmg, why on earth bring it? same with rogue, except even worse, minus the aggro obviously. Also also, if you want to make a list, please dont be lazy, and actually add all the specs to the list, instead of just the classes, thanks.

[@fisher00769]

Tbh when we were doing early dungeons together my friend had lots of trouble holding aggro as a prot pally until he got some spell power. But he kinda fucked up bc he hit 70 with basically 0 SP, he went full avoidance...

[@karolstopinski8350]

I remember also that prot pallys had problems if their gear was too good for the dungeon. They barely loose life when taking damage meaning that they dont regain mana that fast, and no mana = no aoe tanking. That was some private servers, maybe they had their numbers tweaked incorrectly but it was a struggle.

[@MrUrb001]

From what I remember from TBC all those years ago you can't really spell cleave heroics. It is not like classic dungeons, TBC is much more challenging. Mobs hit like a truck. Also, pallys tanks weren't a thing till much later in the expansion, when they got some raid gear.

[@Armchaiirwarrior]

From where did you got that bullshit about pallys? A fucking raid gear for tanking a instance? XD

[@jimmyandersson9938]

@@Armchaiirwarrior With raid gear pally tanks can pull more packs and not get deleted, thats why.

[@MrUrb001]

@@Armchaiirwarrior Have you played it? in 2007 pally tanks weren't a thing, at least on my server. They started to appear only after getting some Karazan gear. Try doing Alcatraz, much harder than any t4 raids.

[@MetaGoblin]

You farm rep in normal mode SL SV and SHH. Cleaving heroics will come later when every is better geared and grinding badges for sunwell gear.

[@swiftjuice168]

@@MrUrb001 Well, in 2005, we were still playing Vanilla, and you can bet your ass that there were Paladin tanks around back then. Fast forward to 2007 when TBC was launched, Paladin tanks were in almost excess. We didn't wait until we got raiding gear to "appear."

[@AQQuartz]

Pressure, pressure, pressure, pressure, pressure, AOE pressure

[@SenipLuff]

isnt spriest really good at cleave damage tho when dotting 2-3 targets

[@reuterss306]

its ok if targets live long enough...which they probably wont with gear. also spriest scales like dogsht while warlock benefits way more from gear upgrades fe.

[@LuciferuxGaming]

What about prot war with tf? Does he get higher in the list?

[@jordanschlansky4093]

I think TF will be nerfed in terms of the threat of the procc, given we will get the very last TBC patch.

[@Sealtest]

my BC dungeon leveling comp will be Feral druid tank, Balance druid, Resto druid, Mage and Hunter.

[@22Epic]

Should run 2 feral, 2 balance and 1 resto druid.

[@baconmaster5892]

Am I the only one that thinks calling Dungeons "Dungs" just seems... gross? you're calling them poo. Its 1 syllable or 4 letters, just say/type the full word. That aside, good video~

[@KaeptnBolle]

Funny how he doesnt even know the difference between a smf warrior and a 2h specced warrior. People talk about being arms warrior being better than fury in single target fights, but he doesnt even think about playing 2h fury (21/40/0), which is even by 9% better in singletarget compared to arms and furthermore cleaves even better. 2h Furys will rule the game.

[@nikolaserafimov5020]

Both a hunter and a rogue can re-direct threat, while also having cc - regarding how a fresh 70 can tank your seed spam without issues.

[@EnzoRandomBK]

Rogues in Bc are irrelevant

[@midnightblue1874]

i believe Rogues redirect was introduced in Wotlk?

[@swiftjuice168]

@@midnightblue1874 It's called "Tricks of the Trade," and you are correct. It was added in Patch 3.0.2

[@coza10]

Why are you talking just about AOE capabilities and not things like CC ability? Have you ever done a heroic dungeon in tbc? :P

[@CubicleJoe]

Because he usually just talks about his own opinions and doesn't use actual logic.

[@michaelegert1284]

@@CubicleJoe Sounds like he has no clue 😁

[@waldmeister0815]

Hmm groups in TBC: Tanks: S - class Healer: A - class fill up with DD

[@Legend011]

to be fair, sometimes for group pugs if your melee dps like war, rogue etc, you will be ignored if you whisper a heroic group that is looking for dps.

[@midnightblue1874]

@@mrt4693 From my TBC memory, DPS Warr's really struggled in HC'c as they were non wanted, not because of lack of DPS , but because (as I remember) lack of CC's , survivability and treat reduction skills, even though they were solid in good hands and with decent gear. I even had RL friend who literally erased his Warrior and stopped playing because of the above mentioned reasons. Tbh as a Rogue back then I never had such a problems and on contrary to popular belief these mind benders called streamers trying to produce that Rogues sucked big time, at least in HC's, Rogues were very good, though I never seriously raided and was focused manly on PvP and occasionally Dungeons... Now...you can call me crazy, I'm hunter in Classic and seeing all those people and their grandma's going hunter in TBC, my hunter is going to the bench and I'm maining Rogue and possibly Arms warrior as an alt🤯

[@abonynge]

To be fair, this video is mostly talking about hardcore players. If you aren't going hard, play what you want.

[@itslit1998]

Finally someone that talks about this. Big thanks!

[@aggrobreaker]

Fastest way to clear 5-mans is melee cleave with shaman healer, both while leveling and farming bojs...

[@Legend011]

Not true at all in tbc lol

[@aggrobreaker]

@@Legend011 Enjoy taking a whole minute to kill a trash pack with improved blizzard (as this video suggests) and then having to drink, while melee cleaves mobs in a few globals.

[@Legend011]

@@aggrobreaker have fun dying on the 2nd boss of ramparts.

[@Legend011]

@@mrt4693 well really i don't think youd want to do that ideally since in a melee cleave i think the major point of the shaman is windfury.

[@MetaGoblin]

@@aggrobreaker 2 warlocks can wipe an entire trash pack in like 3 seeds lmao

[@snick0o0]

dUnjns, d'ya like dUnjns?

[@grublefant4276]

The problem with your "analysis" is that you think best classes = best classes for spellcleave groups. Most people dont run spellcleave groups.

[@pendragonfan42]

Totem of Wrath comes from the end of the Elemental tree so most restos won't have it.

[@asdfawe5961]

there is a 101 or something spell power air totem that all shamans know in tbc, the ele totem is 3% hit and 3% crit for casters

[@polank23]

this is a tier of wether or not they are viable in a spell cleave farm.

[@luizperez3357]

well, spellcleave is the way to go in tbc if you want to min-max. even if you dont go for a pure spell cleave group this list is pretty accurate. you're gonna want a prot pally tank in 5mans and ranged dps are gonna be preferred over melee in general. of course other stuff can work perfectly fine, especially when grinding dungeons to level from 60-70 with overgeared characters.

[@zBotch420]

I think I’m gonna continue to prot warrior because I love to torture myself

[@rovari524]

no resto druid ?

[@v2occy809]

He put them all C.

[@NFRSM]

im making a resto druid you can't trick me into not making one!

[@DrPluton]

Resto druids are perfectly fine in dungeons as long as somebody else brings the out of combat resurrection. They are also super good as raid healers with tree of life form.

[@waz207]

So many people don’t understand....Druids get a Rez in BC...it’s called “revive”. Can check any of the old wowwiki/wowhead sites, etc to confirm I played a Druid in BC and that, along with tree of life form, is what prompted me to be one

[@holysecret2]

@@waz207 you sure it wasn't in wotlk?

[@MetaGoblin]

@@holysecret2 yeah it's wrath

[@ClearMindMediax]

I played Resto druid in vanilla to TBC, I cant stand looking at that disgusting tree form. No matter how much cool looking gear you got you will only ever see it in the city

[@nicocin941]

Threat. Not frett

[@fj4plae680]

what does S mean, A is number one in the alphabet right?

[@DrPluton]

It's based on a Japanese scale where S is better than A. I don't know why we do it that way, but the internet will be the internet.

[@waz207]

S is like “A+” in terms of these tier rankings

[@SD78]

SOOPER DOOPER.

[@midnightblue1874]

Probably SUPER tier

[@valaquenta220]

ret paladin in the same tier as hunters for dungeons, lol...no.

[@vincentwhitney1538]

Warlocks don't get seed of corruption until 70, so you shouldn't see people recruiting 3x warlocks for spell cleave leveling specifically ;) Rep farm, of course

[@gordonbushby1753]

no resto druid? nice

[@Jive33]

You didn’t include all the classes. Where does resto Druid rank?

[@waz207]

He said all Druid specs are a C, but that was due to faulty info (he said they don’t have a Rez but they get one in BC)

[@holysecret2]

@@waz207 druids get revive in wotlk, not bc (afaik)

[@killswitchfate]

The pARSES ARE BAAAACK

[@imcool338]

good luck on the move

[@Tetter.]

Thank You! I don't ever raid and all the tier lists are for raids lol

[@gcstroud]

Noooooooo where’d the hair go?

[@MetaGoblin]

ask scottejaye

[@jongotti7403]

i wish they would make tbc with wotlk class spells (tuned appropriately of course). arms warriors with blade storm... ret pallys with divine storm... that would be epic for tbc content.

[@swiftjuice168]

Unfortunately, with those spells/abilities, the content would be too easy.

[@jongotti7403]

@@swiftjuice168 not true if the tuning was correct it would be no different other than the feel of the class would improve. dps might be slightly higher but not enough to break the game.

[@swiftjuice168]

@@jongotti7403 If Blizzard were to use Lich King spells/abilities, they would have to use those talent trees which would completely change 90% of the game and wouldn't be Burning Crusade, it would be Lich King.

[@swiftjuice168]

@@jongotti7403 Take a Paladin for example. We'd have Judgement of Wisdom/Light/Justice without having to cast the respective seals first. There would be no "tuning" to get right to change this.

[@Viktor-rv7fz]

Gonna be fun to see when ppl realise you can't AOE pull in heroics :D

[@avereth]

I used to aoe pull as prot in heroic shattered halls and grab 2-3 packs, also ran the entire gauntlet in one go.

[@taylorkent2395]

@@avereth you did that at launch? Wow nice

[@avereth]

@@taylorkent2395 3 mages and a priest every day. CC stood for Continuous Consecration.

[@paulwalther5237]

As a warrior tank I hated "cleave" classes immensely. And Paladins are cheaters.

[@SD78]

Dung.

[@boo5ta38]

I'm really looking forward to TBC but I hope your meta isn't happening

[@waz207]

Uhhh. Druids have Rez in BC, lvl 12 spell called Revive, learnable after BC drops From the WoWWiki Revive is druid ability learned at level 12. It allows druids to revive fallen allies. In contrast to the [Rebirth] ability, Revive has no cooldown and is only usable out of combat. It is the druid's equivalent to the shaman spell Ancestral Spirit, the priest spell Resurrection, and the paladin spell Redemption.

[@jimmyandersson9938]

Check the date when the spell was added, just below from the text you copied.

[@swiftjuice168]

Added in Patch 3.0.2 - Not TBC.

[@jbshbsskskhbs6713]

Lol you comment this on every comment mentioning Resto Druids, and on every comment someone tells you "revive" isn't added to the game until WotlK.

[@matshepherd118]

Imagine

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[@TheUsuck4real]

why bother making a 6 step ranking when you only use 4? Is it some american ranking system im to scandinavian to understand?

[@shinon748]

It's from a tier list website so it's just a template.

[@PaleMist]

If you listen to his accent closely, you will hear that it is not American; it is a British Accent.

[@swiftjuice168]

@@PaleMist Realistically, accents don't mean much these days since you can be raised in one part of the world and then move to another and adopt their practices into your life.

[@PaleMist]

@@swiftjuice168 I am aware, but it is still an important point; it is something which should not be ignored if a person is inferring a person's location with nothing else to go on.

[@swiftjuice168]

@@PaleMist But you're doing the same thing. You're basing your comment off of his accent alone without taking any other factors into consideration.

[@InnuendoOutTheOther]

Enhancement shaman will be the highest single target dps in 5mans for the most part, they absolutely shred.

[@rmorini57]

Pretty sure druids get “revive” in TBC non combat res. Has no CD. Maybe changes things?

[@swiftjuice168]

"Revive" was added in Patch 3.0.2 (Lich King) Rebirth remained their only rez until then.

[@jonthecont]

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