A centurion walks into a bar and orders a martinus. The bartender says, did you mean martini? The centurion replies, if I wanted a double, I would have asked for a double.
@demonfromthemud11138 жыл бұрын
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@Diogolindir8 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAA I laughed like the great nerd I am.
@SuperSoapLP8 жыл бұрын
A roman walks into a bar and holds up two fingers and says five beer please.
@raygiordano10458 жыл бұрын
BlaBla As a guy who could (and has) tell jokes all night long under the right circumstances, I am always intrigued by the variant punch lines and set-ups many jokes have. Now if I could only understand why humor is funny. I would, due to a sense of humor being a major liability these days, wish that I had no sense of humor whatsoever.
@niva2gr7 жыл бұрын
After watching the video, i get it!
@buu6789 жыл бұрын
Is the classical latin pronunciation of ceaser the origin of the german word Kaiser?
@metatronyt9 жыл бұрын
+buu678 Most likely yes ^^
@buu6789 жыл бұрын
Metatron Thanks. On a separate note i was wondering if you could do a video on the weaknesses of the roman military? They didn't win every war they fought as their borders were at least in part defined by defeats in persia germania and nubia. This would bring about a more balanced and realistic understanding of Roman history.
@kleinjahr9 жыл бұрын
As I understand it, the Russian Tsar is also a derivative of Caesar.
@buu6789 жыл бұрын
kleinjahr yes it is.
@demoncore53429 жыл бұрын
+buu678 Imagine you do not know how to pronounce Caesar in english, just read what you see written. You pretty much end up with "k(a)yser".
@KnyghtErrant9 жыл бұрын
I have a personal request, and please don't in any way feel obligated to do this, because believe me I know what kind of work goes into making a video... but if you find an extra minute or two, I'd love to hear you pronounce some of the common Catholic prayers in proper Ecclesiastical Latin. Specifically the Ave Maria and Pater Noster, and if you really want to go crazy, I'd love to hear others as well. I find that the Latin Mass, for me anyway, has such a tremendous impact when compared to the more common practice, at least here, of celebrating the Mass in regional languages. Part of my goal at Living History events is to have the common Catholic prayers memorized in Latin, but I have some confusion on proper pronunciation.
@metatronyt9 жыл бұрын
+Knyght Errant Hey there :D byallmeans, it's true that video editing takes quite a bit of work but a video like that is simple to make, and ecclesiastical pronunciation is very easy for me. I will make it after the publication of chivalric code vs bushido, which is next in line ;)
@KnyghtErrant9 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much sir! I very much appreciate it. I'm also very much looking forward to the chivalry / bushido comparison! You do great work!
@metatronyt9 жыл бұрын
Knyght Errant Hearing that from you is music to my ears ^^
@matthewheald8964Ай бұрын
@@metatronytChivalry vs. bushido would kick ass, especially because I recently learned that a ton of knights didn’t actually keep their code, but the samurai seem to have done so somewhat consistently.
@GraupeLie2 жыл бұрын
As someone who's studied Latin as well as English linguistics and cultural and literary studies, I can honestly say that it's such a pleasure to hear you speak Latin. Could listen to you speaking Latin for hours...
@richardmiller1345 Жыл бұрын
As long as it’s a proper instruction!
@GraupeLie Жыл бұрын
@@richardmiller1345 it is, his pronunciation is spot-on and he knows what he's talking about, too. Or are you referring to my university studies?
@Ignisan_663 жыл бұрын
I'm slovak and we have the same basic consonants and vowels as latin (plus we have some more that are not in latin). It is really easy for me to learn and pronounce. I also love how it is written phonetically, same as Slovak. I'm glad I'm not a native english speaker.
@caesar13612 жыл бұрын
as a native speaker of East Slavic languages, I confirm this.
@richardmiller1345 Жыл бұрын
I’m an descendant of colonists. And find other then English most difficult. I studied Dari (new Persian) for three months at the school of languages in Victoria Australia. However I’m a “Redneck Hillbilly from the plains from deepest Queensland” and have a..unique accent to say the least. I’m ok with listening to someone speaking Farsi or Dari..I can right and read it ok.. no one can understand a word I say. Even English speaking people have to deal With a “fella who sounds like his Irish grand parents insisting he only asks asks questions. Especially if it’s a statement! And my mixed Welsh Scottish grandparents also insisted I spoke like them”… with your mouth shut at all times.. due to the desert wild life flying into the shade your mouth makes while open. 😮=😢:😊
@jacplac973 ай бұрын
Yea. It's crazy how similar West Slavic languages sound to Latin, despite coming from completely different branches of Indo-European languages. Makes me wonder if our ancestors along the Amber Road actually adapted them, from Roman traders.
@lamarvisarraga4525 жыл бұрын
Dude, your videos are not boring. Keep making them!
@abelalegria944 жыл бұрын
Native spanish speaker here, who also speaks French and English (ofcourse understands Italian and Portuguese)... you did a great job. Helped me correct my habit of pronouncing "c"s in the middle of words like "s"s while reading ecclesiastical Latin. Good job!
@TheSuperEverests3 жыл бұрын
Have studied latin for years as a lawyer.... And I ha e to say... Your video is brilliant absolutely agree with ur pronounciation.. Well done sir
@marcoorru80049 жыл бұрын
Ave Metatron, ti ho scoperto da poco e sono rimasto molto affascinato, passo ore a guardare i tuoi video. Sono orgoglioso di essere italiano sapendo la storia che abbiamo avuto e perché no, anche le persone come te che ce la raccontano così bene. Continua così e complimenti.
@metatronyt9 жыл бұрын
+marco orru Grazie Mille Marco, è un piacere averti nella mia community :D
@BigPuddin4 жыл бұрын
Mamma, mia. Gnocci ravioli Breda Beretta villa Mussolini Ferrari.
@kh3rb3 жыл бұрын
@@BigPuddin *mamma mia *gnocchi I have no idea what breda is supposed to mean so i can't correct it :P
@BigPuddin3 жыл бұрын
@@kh3rb It's a light machine gun.
@kh3rb3 жыл бұрын
@@BigPuddin i didn't know that, thanks ^^
@Gladelin4 жыл бұрын
TABLE OF CONTENTS (C=Classical, E=Ecclesiastical) c 8:43 C /k/ E /k/ /tʃ/ v 9:40 C /u/ E /v/ gn 10:24 C /gn/ E /ɲ/ Diphthong/Gliding Vowels 10:47 ae 10:52 C /ae/ E /a/ Vowels 11:41 ("ː" represents long) LONG aː "Ah" 13:41 eː "Eh" 13:21 iː "Ee" 13:06 oː "Oh" 12:32 uː "Uw" 13:00 SHORT 14:00 a "ah" 14:07 e "eh" 14:25 i "e" 14:33 u "ew" 15:35 (yeah probably made a mistake somewhere, but just putting this for self-reference)
@swaggerbagger544 жыл бұрын
This helped a lot dude...thank you
@Gladelin3 жыл бұрын
@@swaggerbagger54 For myself as well, glad it could help you :-)
@PC_Simo Жыл бұрын
I think the now-digraph ”ae” is pronounced: /e/, or: [εː] in Ecclesiastical. 🤔 *EDIT:* That said; I’m glad you used the ”Uw”, instead of the ”Jonesian” ”Oo”, or: [uː], as prescribed by Daniel Jones, for English.
@jackwright24958 жыл бұрын
That was excellent! I'm a native English speaker but I learned decades ago how those Latin vowels were actually pronounced, precisely the way you describe. The downside is that I cringe when otherwise decent instructors anglicize some vowels in spite of themselves (I'm thinking of you, LatinTutorial). I would love to see English restore its vowels to their original values to match all the other European languages and then undergo a massive spelling reform, but neither is likely in the real world, sadly. I have studied Latin, Esperanto, German, Russian, French, Spanish and Italian over the years but without achieving real fluency in any of them. You guys in Europe have such an advantage living so close to each other that almost everyone speaks more than one language from an early age, something I've always envied.
@Langermar8 жыл бұрын
I have good news for you. If you can pronounce right Latin a e i o u, then you can pronounce Russian а э и о у.
@jackwright24958 жыл бұрын
Люций Бойправ Russian is already one of my languages if you recall.
@excitedaboutlearning16397 жыл бұрын
Well check out language transfer's Spanish. You know more Latin (Romance) languages than you realize because of the Norman conquest of England. They brought over 3000 French words to English. The free course teaches you how to convert the words into Spanish and then it teaches you the grammar. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bIC9k39vZqyLfas
@santiagoz.s.10244 жыл бұрын
English wouldnt "match" any of the other european countries (except maybe germany) cus we have different backgrounds. Curiously enough, modern french is way more gaulish and saxon than it is latin. However if you look medieval french, it is remarcable how close it is to latin (and spanish or italian for that matter). So yeah... you would resemble more germanic and saxon countries than the ones in western europe.
@santiagoz.s.10244 жыл бұрын
@@jackwright2495 Didnt you say you couldnt spoke them fluently? How , pray tell, it's your language if you cant even speak it or write it properly/fluently? Just another dilusional american.
@TonyG03178 жыл бұрын
A Centurion walks into a bar with two fingers up and says: "FIVE BEERS PLEASE!" Btw I'm very glad I have english and spanish as mother tongues :D
@slavensmolcic8 жыл бұрын
Ha ha!Great joke! :-D
@reyg70287 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there
@meekmeads7 жыл бұрын
Imagine if the bartender was a hippie ;)
@urielmartinez62797 жыл бұрын
can someone explain the joke to me?
@philm86687 жыл бұрын
Uriel Martinez The two fingers form a V, that means 5 in Roman numerals.
@valentinokrauss43518 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed with your accent! I can't belive you learned English as a second languge, you speak like a native speaker!
@LouisKing9957 жыл бұрын
Valentino Krauss Mmmmmm not quite as a native I can tell he isn’t one. But you can tell there’s a bit of a south east twang to his voice and he is very accurate and fluent.
@vladv51262 жыл бұрын
Nah, he speaks English quite well but you can very easily tell he's not a native speaker.
@warpedweft90048 ай бұрын
@@vladv5126 my husband was born and brought up in an English-speaking country but didn't speak any English until he went to school at 5 years old. While he has no accent, having gained English fluency before his mid-teens, he gives himself away with the misuse of some phrasal verbs. In this presenter's case, it's a slight hesitation when ending words that have a hard sound at the end and the slight rolling of rs that are most obvious. Those things are almost impossible to eradicate if you learn English after the age of 13-14. There was a well-known Hungarian-born sports commentator who overcame most of his accent through intense speech therapy but even his English still sounded very slightly "off".
@duster.5 жыл бұрын
Metatron, thank you for a most entertaining and informative video. My teachers tried to teach me Latin some 55 years ago and I regularly got very low marks in examinations. At that time in grammar school the emphasis was more on verb conjugation, singulars and plurals etc. I loved the language and how some words have their root in Latin. Maybe I was a poor student or maybe my teachers taught in a way that I just didn't understand. Thank you very much.
@warpedweft90048 ай бұрын
Any language was always taught that way until the end of the 1980s. Then came the communicative approach, ie repetition. We were told that was because that's how children acquire language, but that never made any sense to me given it was drummed into us at teachers college that children think and learn differently from adults. Why then were we supposed to teach adults (as I was doing by then) the same way that we taught children? As someone who much preferred learning about the mechanics of English than studying English literature, the highly mechanical grammar of Latin appeals to me.
@NotMeButAnother8 жыл бұрын
I am somewhat amazed at how I understood almost all of the Latin you were speaking despite it being over a decade since I had Latin at school.
@Алекса́ндрИва́новичПокры́ш-е1л3 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Serbia neighbour across the Adriatic sea, i am impressed by this video, to say the least. Idk if you know, but serbo croatian (still the same language, because languages are evolving according to linguistical laws, not politics) every letter has its own symbol tnx to Vuk Stefanović Karadžić. Your video made me remmember my latin lessions and left me in owe both in gramatical symilarities in serbian and latin, at least when it comess to pronauntiation, and in the same type pf similarities between my language and yours. Greetimgs, keep up the good work!
Like I say in Portuguese to this video: *MAGNÍFICO*
@rafaelalexie24179 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for posting this video, as well as all the other videos you have posted. You have instantly become my favourite youtube channel!
@metatronyt9 жыл бұрын
+RafaelloCraiova Wow thank you for that and for watching I appreciate ^^
@dukemduke19748 жыл бұрын
Il tuo inglese è ottimo, inoltre è sempre un piacere imbattersi in canali così interessanti. Complimenti.
@SteveB3575 жыл бұрын
I'm in love. After 50 years, it's so good to hear from someone who knows Latin and Roman stuff for real.
@PC_Simo Жыл бұрын
9:00 I think that, in Classical Latin, the ”C” also had the voiced /g/ -pronunciation (it comes from Greek ”Γ”, through Etruscan); as the Romans would have written names like ”Gaius”, as: ”CĀIVS”, with a ”C”.
@carolmarr66073 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Everything you do on Roman history and Latin is so interesting.
@The_Kentuckian2 жыл бұрын
I get a very soothing, ASMR quality listening to Metaron calmly explain & speak Latin.
@NroneChilean19 жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful language, its really worth to learn :)
@demonfromthemud11138 жыл бұрын
not rlly. since it not very common
@NroneChilean18 жыл бұрын
Demon from the Mud I know its not common lol..
@mrhose35777 жыл бұрын
Demon from the Mud I'm very triggered by what you said. The commoness of a language doesn't make it less worth learning. There's a TON of literarure and history that goes into the language. That history HEAVILY outweighs the lack of commoness. I think I went too far. Sorry.
@steven_0037 жыл бұрын
+Jorukane No, because it's true.
@cityandsuburb6 жыл бұрын
Jorukane Absolutely, you are bang-on.....
@jinanlaetitia7 жыл бұрын
I'm Indonesian and currently learning Italian and Latin. So glad I came upon your channel, this really helped, thank you so much!
@gilbertoviquez57209 жыл бұрын
You, sir, explained yourself magnificently. Another accent that was used for the Latin language that many might not know is the Hispanic ecclesiastic accent where the C before E or I was pronounced TH as in modern Spanish just as G before E or I had the current Spanish pronunciation as well.
@starry_lis8 жыл бұрын
and Polish latin, where it is the "tz" sound.
@ZiePe9 жыл бұрын
Hey thank you very much! I 'corrected' you on your pronounciation and here you are, making a whole video about it - and showing that you know way more about it, than I do :D . Keep up the good stuff!
@metatronyt9 жыл бұрын
+ZiePe ahah it wasn't only you, and please don't take it as a personal confrontation, I had this video in mind for a while and I have decided to add that little detail because of your correction specifically, but also because I noticed it's a common approach to consider Ecclesiastical "v" "c" and such as mistakes where as it's simply important to see which pronunciation is being used. I'm sure you know your stuff too and there are plenty of subjects you could teach me a lot about ;)
@patrickbateman3127 жыл бұрын
Great tips! As a beginner to Classical Latin, this is an excellent guide and I found it very helpful.
@MMalkavian8 жыл бұрын
As a native spanish speaker I find extremely interesting that the classical pronunciation is almost identical to the actual castillian-spanish one. Keeping in mind all "c" sound like "k", and all "v" like "u", I can read any of those texts and feel like a true "kenturio", xD. Jokes aside: It's just fascinating that after all these centuries the common roots of romance languages remain so strong. Great video. I'm gonna suscribe right now, keep up the good work!
@lokustic9 жыл бұрын
Metatron.. you sound very educated regarding historical matters. Are you a teacher?
@metatronyt9 жыл бұрын
+lokustic I am indeed ^^
@super1daan9 жыл бұрын
+Metatron maybe a foolish question, but what do you teach?
@metatronyt9 жыл бұрын
+DR channel Languages :D
@super1daan9 жыл бұрын
I thought history as well, but i guess I was wrong :D
@metatronyt9 жыл бұрын
DR channel I have clearly studied history at university as well as languages, but as far as my current profession is concerned I only teach languages and linguistics, I only teach history on YT :)
@nathan22148 жыл бұрын
Yes! Thank you for pointing out the vowel pronunciation! It is such a pet peeve when English speakers use English vowel pronunciation. I understand we don't truly know with certainty how Classical Latin was pronounced, but I think it's safe to say a Romance language speaker's pronunciation is closer than an Anglophone's.
@Ragd0ll13378 жыл бұрын
Now I can't play Rome Total War without thinking "it's not Velites you damned fools it's well-ee-tes"
@rhyshirah4 жыл бұрын
This helps so much! As a Brit who's trying to learn Latin this is amazing! Thank you so much.
@Program_Black8 жыл бұрын
What a brilliant channel. Thanks for your time.
@metatronyt8 жыл бұрын
+Terrence Giles Thank you for watching!
@omnebonum19015 жыл бұрын
I am very grateful for this video. When I took Latin in high school I was told that no one knew what Latin sounded like back in the day. That always bugged me! Over the years whenever I've come across phrases like "The Battle of Cannae" it drove me crazy that I didn't know how to pronounce the 'ae' sound--and there was so much misinformation on the internet it was impossible to nail it down. But now I know! Benigne!
@aldodelaguila82229 жыл бұрын
Ave, Metetron. Thank you for this guide. I was mixing classical (gn) without late latin pronunciation, as well as many grammatical faults. I enjoy a lot the classical pronunciation. Aue, ego Aquila sum.
@abhireddy96774 жыл бұрын
TV I am
@BoJo50669 ай бұрын
I took a course of medical Latin back in the 1990s. I know that did not make me understand the language, but it did give me an appreciation for the latin language. Sometimes when I hear certain latin words I reconize a portion of them as having to do with a body part or a medical thing. But I have forgotten a lot of it because I havent worked for about 5 years due to a disability. Examples: Gastrò = having to do with the stomach Gastritis = An inflmmatory issue of some kind in the stomach Or Endocrin = In latin means organs or areas that make and send out hormones in the body. An example being a pancreas because one of the things it does is to make insulin and secret it out into the body. Chronic Pancreatitis = An inflammation issue of some kind involving the pancreas that is a chronic occurance. Im glad I took medical latin because it helped me understand what I was dealing with in my medical job. I was raised by wonderful parents, but I was sheltered and protected living far outside of the city away from people, so because of that I was naive and lacked education in life even though I went to school.
@77thNYSV7 жыл бұрын
You need to get on Udemy and offer courses on Latin. I would definitely buy your course.
@andrewd.harris6568 жыл бұрын
I took several classes on latin in childhood, and I can still understand a number of things, written, but that's been twenty years ago. I'm enjoying your series.
@OmikronZeta9 жыл бұрын
It would be cool if you made a video reading some Latin poetry or aphorisms
@libertycowboy24956 жыл бұрын
Catullus please?
@richardsummers75693 жыл бұрын
Greatly appreciate your correcting the mistakes of other sites. Love your devotion to accuracy
@Syrenion9 жыл бұрын
Haha, well, not much of my knowledge of Latin that we learned at school remains, but I'm glad I finally know how to pronounce "Caesar". In school (Bavaria, Germany) we were taught to pronounce it like /tsesar/, but since I started studying languages at University this made less and less sense to me, and since I never got around to refreshing and updating my knowledge of Latin this is a wonderful quick lesson. Thank you a lot, Metatron :)
@tjg74084 жыл бұрын
They taught you correct, cause they teached you medieval latin
@warpedweft90048 ай бұрын
In high school in the mid 70s we were taught to pronounce it like Kaiser, but then people kept telling me that it was not correct. We also said Bodecea as bow-de-sia and now they pronounce it as bow-day-shia. Frankly, I don't think anyone can be 100% certain about any of the pronunciation. You can't say it's how the Romance languages say it because they certainly don't pronounce c & g the same way as scholars say it is in Latin.
@noname83547 жыл бұрын
You just got a new subscriber. Rome is fascinating, and Latin is cool (I'm only a semester in the first year of it). I'm trying to learn how to correctly pronounce Latin, as well as the history behind it, and I think you do both. Great channel!
@Shrapnel828 жыл бұрын
"When I was first started learning English..." I can't imagine you having any difficulty learning any language. It's just like you have some superhuman ability to speak anything.
@Estrella216 жыл бұрын
So glad I watched this! My husband and I have discussed the pronunciation to “veni vidi vici “ and couldn’t remember which pronunciation was correct. They both are.
@THESPATHARIOS9 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. Finally, someone who exposes the linguistic massacres that go online concerning latin.
@metatronyt9 жыл бұрын
+THESPATHARIOS Thank you for watching and commenting :3
@kharekelas42595 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great video! I lived in Milano for a year and was fully attracted by Rome culture, also grown a deep interest on languages! Would like to see more stuff about ancient Rome and it's culture!
@liveforever1418 жыл бұрын
Strange how Lithuanian and Classical Latin pronounciation are similar. As I watched this video I had no difficulty to understand how to pronounce classical latin words. As my latin teacher said that lithuanian pronounciation is incredibly similar to classical latin pronounciation therefore it is easy to me speak in classical latin :) (do not hate for my bad english)
@poodle35076 жыл бұрын
liveforever141 same with Croatian :)
@avgvstvs75 жыл бұрын
Same with Turkish which is weird
@bilbohob71794 жыл бұрын
After al comments, i believe that only English speakers pronounced in different way... 😜
@Teverell4 жыл бұрын
My Latin accent has grown absolutely terrible since I stopped studying it as a regular thing. So thank you for this; it's very helpful! And it reminded me of the time that my school decided one of the hymns at our Christmas carol service was going to be Adeste Fideles. We were taught Latin - Classical Latin - from the first year (Year Seven) to the third year (Year Nine) - and up to the fifth year (Year Eleven) if you took the Latin GCSE, as I did. I am not sure how many students slipped into a Classical Latin accent during that hymn, but I'm very sure I wasn't the only one!
@NoahWeisbrod9 жыл бұрын
And then there's the R, an extremely problematic letter for English-speakers trying to pick up another language.
@vukashin889 жыл бұрын
+Noah Weisbrod It wasn't always like that though...
@SuccubusKeres8 жыл бұрын
+Noah Weisbrod when i was going through my first few years of learning the German language the R was not the biggest of my problems but rather the very rare but obviously there TH along with the Z.
@Pyllolla8 жыл бұрын
Just pronunce R like the Scots do, it's close enough
@prototropo5 жыл бұрын
Actually, I believe the consensus amongst language historians holds that our ‘grrr’-pronunciation of ‘R,’ unrevealingly called the rhotic R, was long the global Anglophone standard pronunciation, including, obviously, in England. The British drifted into their broader, and appealingly, I feel, un-rhotic pronunciation of R in the late 18th century, just when Americans were pursuing our political-and apparently phonemic-independence from the scepter’d isle. The indigenous Gaelic speakers of the British Isles were neither charmed nor tutored in the vertical formalities of the BBC’s “sound of empire,” or the horizontal “hyper-familiarity” of the WBYO, y’know-“speak English, dammit,” sound, outta Six Pack, USA. In other words, the Celts never surrendered, in my accounting, their Romantic vestige of Roman Britain-the unselfconsciously rolled R. This helps explain why the burly, furry, rusty haired Irish and stocky, surly, sandy haired Scottish sound as meltingly sexy as they look-working in boots or a tie in modern times, shepherd woolens or linen robe in Medieval times, or, as many a nervous centurion first met them, a Celtic birthday suit and double-faced axe.
@Teverell4 жыл бұрын
When I began Spanish lessons at school (so... way back in the Dark Ages! :D ) I could not roll my Rs. I can now, but only at the beginning of a word and it's still not a regular thing!
@ryannel38997 ай бұрын
Latin is beautiful. Whats your opinion on ScorpioMartianus? Been learning a wee bit from his channelv
@victorhoralko46897 жыл бұрын
we need more such tutorials!
@taxusgaming70313 жыл бұрын
Avé Metatron, Im portuguese, and since an early age I've been interested in roman history. Although im fascinated by history, life led me to science. Never got around to learning latin. After watching the barbarians show I was amazed to see how much I could understand of the roman lines without subtitles. Indeed portuguese is quite similar to latin spoken on the show. Would love to ask you if you could point me somewhere where I could start learning and speaking in clássical latin. Gratias Maestro!
@jacac9 жыл бұрын
I'm studying a Master in the UK by now and it shocked me how both teachers and students pronounce latin words and expressions as "a priori", "a posteriori", "ratio", "a contrario sensu" and "a fortiori", as if they were pronouncing English. The vowels, the t and the r are pronounced the English way as if it was the most natural thing to do. It's horrible. At the beginning, I didn't even realised they were using latin phrases at all because it sounded totally un-latin. Why do you think this is? Just laziness? I'm amazed how accepted this kind of pronunciation is, even among scholars.
@metatronyt9 жыл бұрын
+jacac Yes, it's lazines which as a linguist I repulse very much. Other times it's actually that they can't pronounce it propery, in which case I wonder why they are there in the first place.
@jacac9 жыл бұрын
This is a Philosophy Master at UCL. I'm not waiting people to pronounce "a priori" perfectly, because there is no point in it, but "ei praiorai" (as I would describe it in Spanish spelling) is too much!
@eesti12348 жыл бұрын
+Metatron The Long vowels sound like in Estonian, (a, e, i, o, u, ö, ä, õ, ü)
sort of like in Finnish. I study finnish and the vowel sounds are pretty similar to Latin vowels. Is Estonian a Slavic language?
@CalaVdarivdavd Жыл бұрын
Finally I understand! I am Romanian and we pronounce the groups "ce", "ci", "ge", "gi" etc. like italians, not like spanish people, for example. I learned in school a bit of Latin and it was the ecclesiastical version, but the teacher didn't say that. I watched your newer videos and I couldn't understand why an italian guy was "reading latin like an american" :)). Thank you! I think I am biased towards the ecclesiastical latin because it's much similar to Romanian that the classical version.
@dp2404 Жыл бұрын
Actually in Italy we study ecclesiastical Latin 😅 but we're never told, at least in high school. It's easier for us too, but I kind of like the classic version 😊
@TheDendem8 жыл бұрын
Amazing. I speak Brazilian Portuguese (which is a Romance Language), and for me is natural all these vowels, but, seeing you telling how to pronounce these for english speakers, and spotting the differences, I noticed some mistakes that I often make when speaking english, especially the 'i' in 'pit'. I never understood the differences when they trying to teach me in a perspective from portuguese to english, but it was quite noticible in the reverse perspective. Also, great teacher you are! Thanks! PS: Why in english commas is not that common ? We abuse of commas in portuguese. Others latin languages use a lot of commas too, or is something with portuguese?
@Langermar8 жыл бұрын
We in Russia have a joke: "How to speak English without accent? Put a hot potato in your mouth and then speak"
@TheDendem8 жыл бұрын
It's quite interesting, here in Brazil we also have a joke like that, but it's exactly the opposite! We say that the British accent is like try to speak english with something in your mouth (well, this something is generally said a sausage if you know what I mean). The same joke applies with the Portugal's portuguese accent. Interesting how we look the same accent different.
@Langermar8 жыл бұрын
Lord Chateau I think I made a mistake. In Russian phrase like "speak without accent" means "speak without wrong accent/speak with right accent". So we look British accent equally :D
@TheDendem8 жыл бұрын
oh, I misunderstood :v "without accent" is something "without russian accent" (make sense, if said by a russian). That's make more sense. I should say hot potato too, the "sausage-like-thing" is too rude hehe :) PS: The coolest english accent is the russian one, me and my friends always agree with that :D the 'r' sound is too cool haha
@Langermar8 жыл бұрын
Lord Chateau I think if you will hear Mutko, your opinion will change :D He is so terrible Rrrrussian... it is just some kind of psychological attack. After his speech people add a petition to remove him from the post of minister of sports but president says "he is bad in english but good at his job" and then give him at his birthday a Russian-English dictionary. Just search on youtube "let me speak from my heart". I think first video in list will be Enjokin's music clip on it and the second is the original speach. Also, if you're wondering how Russians hear Brazilian accent in English: It is very soft and understandable for us. At first minute we even can not to detect outstanding characteristics. It is just English without stupid English sounds. And then "ah, many "s" and wavy intonation like a wheezing sea, it is defenitely Brasilian accent!"
@aleaiactaest-parereimperio4693 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man. And great explanation. I'm an English speaker and also a Spanish speaker. So the long and short vowels in latin come very easy for me. But thank you so much for elaborating more on it
@GalaxyGal-5 жыл бұрын
You forgot [y] and the nasal vowels. The way I learned it is like the German “ü”
@Fawnarix9 жыл бұрын
This was a great video which shows the history of a language that I've never seen before. As I am taking Honors Latin 4 at my high school, I never knew that I was blending Ecclesiastical Latin pronunciation with Classical Latin pronunciation, especially when "v" and "u" are concerned. But that's probably not a surprise since I live in America and we screw up pronunciation of every word ever. Also in my Latin class, we were never really taught how to pronounce certain words, although my Latin teacher is Romanian, whose pronunciation of words I acquired.
@pumperentchen8 жыл бұрын
You missed out two things: The first is probably not undisputed, but I think it's fairly commonly accepted that ‹gn› in Classical Latin was actually a double nasal [ŋn] (the [ŋ] being the same sound as the ‹ng› in English "sing") The other point is definitely commonly accepted and rather important for both poetry and the evolution of Vulgar Latin (which had the same trait). Letter combinations like ‹um› in "imperium" were *not* pronounced as a vowel plus the [m] sound, but were nasal vowels. This also cranks the number of vowels up to 15 or 20, depending on if nasal could be long, or respectively, if the ‹m› after a phonetically long vowel collapsed into the vowel or not. Since there are words like "sumptus", in which the ‹p› has no etymological motivation, it can be assumed ‹ump› was in fact pronounced [um], not [ũ], which in turn suggests that the nasal vowels were actually phonemic.
@SageManeja9 жыл бұрын
How convenient! I'm just starting latin classes here in Spain and I totally see how a English native speaker could have a hard time pronunciating latin, as they usually do with Spanish or other romance lingos. Also this was pretty entertaining for an educational video. You are totally capacited to give complementary latin classes if you wanted to :)
@warpedweft90048 ай бұрын
IF you are convinced that Latin did indeed have rolled Rs. For me, the jury is still out on that one. Romance languages are no proof because they don't pronounce Cs and Gs like Latin, so why be so sure that rolled Rs are?
@SageManeja8 ай бұрын
@@warpedweft9004 oh i wasnt thinking about rolled Rs, i was thinking of the more straight forward pronunciation of latin, spanish, italian, etc, compared to english wishy-washy vowels and such
@saamypsg5 жыл бұрын
Wow. Latin has long vowels too. That was a shock to me. I always thought European languages have only long vowels. This is very similar to my mother tongue Tamil. We have 12 vowels. 5 short and 7 long vowels. 'Ai' and 'Au' are the 2 extra long vowels in Tamil.😎
@wangying30033 жыл бұрын
I like your presentation! And your Italian ways of pronouncing Ecclesiastical Latin. There is an Italian restaurant here, COVA, and most people here pronounce it the English way: "k'ouva", with the k sound aspirated. I had Italian teachers at school and I think I can pronounce the name correctly. Thank you!
@bogdanhuza2089 жыл бұрын
Great vid Metatron! And another thing I want to say: I am Romanian
@atouloupas7 жыл бұрын
Hello Metatron, nice video. Modern linguists have found that "gn" was not pronounced [gn] in Classical Latin, but [ŋn]. This explains why sometimes the vowel before "gn" was nasalised. Oh, nasal vowels also existed in Classical Latin. For example, "monstrum" would have been pronounced [mõːstrũː].
@TheChipmunkzombie8 жыл бұрын
I am a little bit confused by pronunciation of the noun conlectione. You have spelled it like [kon-lek-cio-ne], but why this [c] sound instead of [t]? Could it be pronounced like [kon-lek-tio-ne]?
@CoeliLux8 жыл бұрын
yes, in classical was kon-lek-tio-ne
@bilbohob71794 жыл бұрын
The worst part of to be a native speaker of neolatin or romance language is that you unconsciously falls in your modern form of pronuntiation because is all identical except 2 or 3 things that you forget..
@BartAnderson_writer2 жыл бұрын
Nice explanation. One thing I wonder: there must have been many dialects in vulgar Latin, since Rome lasted for centuries and there weren't modern forms of communication to maintain uniformity.
@ZiePe9 жыл бұрын
Also: Its funny how few people know in germany, that the german word for Emperor comes directly from that one very successful commander of the house of the Iulii...
@Aintbegone6 жыл бұрын
caesar is a title not a name.
@deanrazor90236 жыл бұрын
L LaVey Caesar started as a name and then became a title later on
@quantumratio43115 жыл бұрын
No, unfortunately, wrong. When Gaius Iulius* Caesar declared himself dictator, he was assassinated. Until then, it was just a family name. *or Julius His successor, Gaius Octavius, was practically/in fact the first emperor, even though he didn't call himself that. Because he was the adopted son and heir of G. I. Caesar, he took his name to honor his murdered foster father and to underline his claim to power. Henceforth the names of the emperors were appended to the name of Caesar, in essence it denotes a dynastic claim. Ultimately, it became the title of Emperors = Caesar / Kaiser / Tsar. Now you know it right. If you don't believe it, take a look here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustus en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_(gens) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaius_Julius_Caesar_(name) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julio-Claudian_family_tree
@Pyllolla8 жыл бұрын
Complimenti Metatron e saluti dalla Sardegna
@NoHealerJustPain8 жыл бұрын
GN in the Classical Latin might rather pronounce [ŋn].
@maciejniedzielski74963 жыл бұрын
02:41 prisca Latina (przeszła Łacina pl. = passé Latin (Latin de passé fr. ) past Latin eng. So what I'd like to show a word "PRISCA" kept very indo-européenne connection and meaning
@deepsouthredneck19 жыл бұрын
I have a question. If you were to get kicked in the head by a horse which language do you think you would mumble on the way to the hospital? I've always wondered if people who speak multiple languages default to a language when under stress or trauma.
@F3ARL3889 жыл бұрын
+dreyrugr I would develop foreign accent syndrome and start speaking English (my native language) with a Norwegian accent.
@Philoglossos9 жыл бұрын
+dreyrugr Probably either Italian (his main native language) or Sicilian (native but one generally doesn't speak regional languages nearly as much as standard Italian).
@metatronyt9 жыл бұрын
+dreyrugr Italian xD
@tenofspades44709 жыл бұрын
+dreyrugr The native one. I always revert to English and Spanish curses when pissed. Most of my friends do the same.
@Philoglossos9 жыл бұрын
+Protherium I'm not Metatron, but I do speak Italian so I figured I might as well respond haha. The #1 word/phrase that you absolutely cannot say is "p*rco" + "d*o" (lit. "pig god"). It's kinda funny since neither word is a swear, but this is the kind of thing that makes even nonreligious Italians uncomfortable simply because of how taboo it is. It carries a similar weight, (although the context is totally different obviously) to the N word in English. You just don't say it lol.
@Phasma_Tacitus4 жыл бұрын
Love the sound of classical Latin, the only thing that gets me are the longer vowels. I don't think it's a thing in portuguese, but the fact you need to pay attention to how long you're holding a vowel sound is really strange. Like, if you're speaking fast, will you be able to differ long vowels from short vowels?
@Randomdudefromtheinternet5 жыл бұрын
I'm planning a DnD campaign, and a faction is based on the Roman empire (so I'm trying to get things right)
@fAEtusDeletus6 жыл бұрын
Who would've known this video would come so handy to me one day, thank you Metatron! ♥
@Ignisan_663 жыл бұрын
Classical Latin is the language of gods.
@romanmindset-r2j6 жыл бұрын
In scotland nursery children are taught a very similar pronunciation of the alphabet using the sounds you did before we are taught the english pronunciation. Not all the letter are the same from what i remember but most are .always thought it was stupid teaching us that but i thank you for helping me realise that. It helps alot
@a.s.45797 жыл бұрын
I love more the ecclesiastical one . I'm in love with languages!
@Hun_Uinaq Жыл бұрын
Ecclesiastical pronunciation is much easier for me to understand coming from Spanish. I remember how blown away I was when I heard one of Luigi Miraglia’s lectures here on KZbin. It was a completely different language but, somehow, because I have studied so many of the daughter languages because I have studied it somewhat, his words just fell into place and I was able to understand him. His fluidity was astonishing. Classical pronunciation is interesting. Particularly when they give special attention to quantitative vowel length. But, I must admit, church Latin just feels right for some reason. It feels very familiar.
@Fishhunter20148 жыл бұрын
It seems like some of the people on youtube got the majority of their knowledge on Latin from Fallout: New Vegas.
@DANtheMANofSIPA8 жыл бұрын
Ave, true to Caesar ;)
@GerVlad6 жыл бұрын
Im Romanian and this, like many other videos of yours, hits close to home. Very interested in my true mother language.
@legorickdeckard2298 жыл бұрын
I read that final m's nasalised peeceding vowels and that gn is actually ng (as in english sing) + n, how accurate are those theories?
@tenienteramires44287 жыл бұрын
legorickdeckard Pretty accurate
@reinerschenk29877 жыл бұрын
I read that, too. So "magnus" should be pronounced like "mangnus", even in classical times.
@ditto19582 жыл бұрын
I took four years of Latin in high school and two semesters in college and enjoyed it very much. We read Ovid and Virgil and also learned a lot about Roman history and culture. I wish, though, that we had been taught to actually speak it instead of just reading it.
@xxfurio909 жыл бұрын
Fellate meum fallum! (scusa dovevo scrivere una boiata, è stato più forte di me)
@xxfurio909 жыл бұрын
+Strarmo Percanriete Gran video come sempre.
@marcelogonzalez85479 жыл бұрын
+Strarmo Percanriete Well, dirty words tend to be the first thing we learn from a different language XD
@ettoremorabito60636 жыл бұрын
@@marcelogonzalez8547 so true!I live in Australia nearly now 40 years!And i know only dirty words from Aboriginal.Indonesian chinese vietnamese Burma Nepal Greek Croations Serbian etc etc!Funny thou but true!
@koppunch5 жыл бұрын
U WOT MATE? DO YA WANT A PILVM UP YOUR RECTVM?
@larsrons79373 жыл бұрын
So interesting how Latin evolved and in different directions, and how it was pronounced. I always wondered about this, thanks for clarifying this.
@fulviogodoy36897 жыл бұрын
Saludos desde Venezuela. Las vocales en latín suenan exactamente como en español.
@diegop6227 жыл бұрын
Fulvio Godoy porqué sí son exactamente las mimas vocales, el español proviene del Latín
@mrhose35777 жыл бұрын
¡Chamo un compatriota en un video de Metatron!
@david_contente7 жыл бұрын
No! Spanish sounds like Arabic for me.
@mrhose35777 жыл бұрын
dAVID You're probably just talking about the J sound. Yes, there are Arabic influences in Spanish, but it's mostly Latin.
@david_contente7 жыл бұрын
*Jorukane* actually it sounds Arabic all the time! I think Italian, Sardinian and even BR Portuguese sounds much more latin than Spanish
5 жыл бұрын
ok you made the best sound pronunciation I ve heard for latin from english...I say that because as Im Braziliam and eager for latin, and I find most in english, but I never trust most of the english teachers pronunciation, but I trust 100% in yours. thank you
@Nyquist808 жыл бұрын
So in Italy at certain kinds of secondary school (called Licei, plural) we study classical latin with ecclesiastical pronunciation, which is right equal to Italian. Not so cool.
@jezolk8 жыл бұрын
Nyquist80 exactly!!!
@katiebellenger8070 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely fabulous video!!! Please continue on with this content on your channel and if you would be interested in making a Latin while you sleep video I would definitely be 1 person who would play that repeatedly every night as there at present is only unus for Latin I can find on KZbin
@metatronyt Жыл бұрын
Hi and thank you. The majority of my language content is now on my second channel, Metatron’s Academy 👍🏻
@katiebellenger8070 Жыл бұрын
@@metatronyt thanks heaps
@reagestme8 жыл бұрын
What is use of latin in modern day?
@RaccKing218 жыл бұрын
Medicine
@reagestme8 жыл бұрын
Only?
@RaccKing218 жыл бұрын
No obviously. Its used in science mostly.
@reagestme8 жыл бұрын
Also I guess it gives better understanding of modern europ-languages, words and their origin meaning? But does it also train logic or it is not the case?
@fullstackcoder12348 жыл бұрын
legal terms too
@patricksilesius34596 жыл бұрын
I have just started learning Latin. Great tutorial. Thank you.
@fs27288 жыл бұрын
In classical time the gn was not pronounced as [gn] but as [ŋn].
@edwardfranks52154 жыл бұрын
Very instructive! I read Latin well, though still get tied in knots with some poetry. I prefer the late Latin pronunciation. It was already moving to the sounds found in Italian and Spanish. A mix of Latin and Ecclesiastical sounds better to me and I don't have to worry about the long short vowels unless market. Vulgar Latin = conversational Latin. Cicero slips into it. Everyone until about 600 could understand Classical Latin since it was still a living language. In any case a Roman hearing Ecclesiastical Latin would have not difficulty understanding it as long as the text was classical in grammar and syntax. He or she might be stumped a bit by changes in very morphology.
@PSobieski96 жыл бұрын
There is also a Central European way of pronouncing Latin. It is quite between the classical and ecclesiastical pronunciation, e.g. “c” before “i”, “e”, “ae” or “y” it is pronounced as “ts”, v is pronounced as v and also “qu” and “gu” is pronounced as “qv” and “gv”, also “h” is pronounced. From my experience I can say that it is commonly used in Poland.
@kronusexodues72838 жыл бұрын
for everyone who speaks english as their mother tongue, that's quite helpful. I however already knew how to make those sounds from my own mother tongue. I would have been more interested in determining how to convert written into spoken language. stuff like (totally made up example that's not in any way actually true) "when you see a u in front of a t, it's a long u but in front of an h it's a short u." Stuff that helps me reading the letters out loud when I already know the sounds.
@zipp4everyone2638 жыл бұрын
Thank you immensely for this! Iv been trying to get my head around the basic history of latin to better understand how it has evolved so that i may create a more realistic representation of a entirely fantastical version of it. I normally use written sources to base my personal studies on, however for some reason latin was somewhat hard to grasp at first glance.
@V14-x6n5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I love Latin! Curiously, in England if youngo to latin Mass they add their own little touches to Ecclesiastical Latin that are obviously english influence, so in words with “g” they would pronounce it “dg” as in “George”, e.g. Agitur becomes Adgitur and often rolling “r” becomes english “r” or I even heard it dropped at the end of words, so “it becomes Adgitu”. In France they have heavy French influence and in the same letters, so in “Agitur” g sounds like french g as in “courgette”, french r is often heard, I even hearn typical french nasal “n” at the end of words. At first it was really strange but after a while you get used to it. In Ukraine when they sang latin prayers at Mass I was a bIt shocked because they would use neither ecclesiastical, nor classical pronunciation. So words like Caelo they would pronounce “Tsello” (ts is one sound as in english transcription rules) and double that l sound, Excelsis instead of eks chelsis or eks kelsis they would pronounce eks tselsis, with the same ts sound. Word like Gloria they would pronounce in purely russain manner with ya at the end instead of a. I have no idea where this weird pronunciation of C comes from. Is it some kind of medical book latin pronunciation? Maybe you could explain. Thanks.
@RFxSukhoi5 жыл бұрын
There are actually a couple of things he didn't mention, g gets softened in front of i and e, just like in Italian. And there is an s sound added after t depending on the other letters around it. Latio for example, is pronounced lat-see-oh. Those aren't English additions. Those are the Ecclesiastical rules for it.
@mihaeltomasovic8 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Raff! i learned Latin in school as i attended a Catholic secondary school.
@katanah31955 жыл бұрын
That's really interesting. I often hear of Catholic schools requiring students to learn Latin. Meanwhile, in the Catholic school I attend, people are scared of Latin, we do Gregorian chant in choir but it's relegated to the Christmas Concert and practiced in the basement music room where other students won't find us and parents are warned before their kids join the choir, and we have a morning prayer time when students are expected to say certain traditional prayers, and there's a school chapel open for anyone who needs a quiet place to pray, but praying in Latin will get you sent to the principal's office. Say or sing something in Latin in the hallway, you'll probably get grabbed by the wrist and literally dragged to the office. Oh well, at least the office visits mean Mom gets called, and she yells at the lousy modernists.
@voldavkuk7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I dont know if you could understand german, i mean you are a linguist and so on, but i dont know, so i write it in english. I often thought, how can i pronounce it, how is it right or wrong. Now you explained something i didn't knew before, the many different types of Latin, where the romanic languages came from etc. As a non-Linguist I really epreciate your work here! PS: The Units in Rome 2:Total War, are they talking latin, no latin at all or the wrong version? Thank you again!