METTALICA "No Leaf Clover"

[@danielbridges8927]

I was in a music class at SF State during the first S&M album and the conductor came to our class and talked to us about the upcoming performance. Someone asked him about a click track and he said they didn't need one cuz they had Lars. He was their click track. It was organic and they followed and moved with the band. He said the band was so good and professional that they only had a couple of rehearsals.

[@RakuPL]

I think I've read somewhere that for the first S&M concert they had about one or max two rehearsals and for the S&M2 they said in new interview that they didn't need one... Astonishing! 🙂

[@Krossfire623]

​@@RakuPLSFS is the best Symphony ever. These are the best of the best.

[@Eddie-PT]

In the original, 1999 version, it was none other than the legendary Michael Kamen, who conducted the orchestra. He also wrote the symphonic arrangements for the whole 1999 concert - and, as such, it is those very same arrangements that what we are hearing, in this song and throughout most of this 2019 commemorative concert.

[@johncarpenter3751]

Their song Bleeding Me live with this orchestra is an amazing performance

[@dust4magnet]

Some of my favorite singers are not technically "great singers." That includes James, Iggy Pop, and Lemmy from Motorhead. But they're very good at expressing emotions deep from the soul. (And sometimes you get both, such as Chris Cornell)

[@commandercarr4797]

You should also check out the version when they performed it originally with the SF Symphony back in the day.

[@kurtwinchell]

I agree, that version, no offense, is more vocally interesting for analysis.

[@amaria7735]

Agreed, the original had more nuance in the vocals. So glad I decided to go last minute in 99!! Still one of my all time fav concerts

[@Krossfire623]

This is also the San Francisco Sympothy. It's off of the S&M2 album. S&M was way better. But my point being is this is also the SFS.

[@adriancole9681]

Love this song and - human, wish they would have explored this style more. Dynamic, dramatic, powerful hard rock songs. My favorite songs after the original 4 classics.

[@RyTrapp0]

Written for Metallica's S&M album, every song on the album had arrangements by the legendary Michael Kamen, and I couldn't imagine them any other way. Kamen had such an amazing feel for wrapping orchestral arrangements around contemporary music in a way that really elevates the whole song, instead of just serving as a barely noticeable background addition like happens so often. Kamen was supposed to conduct this second series of S&M concerts as well, like he did the first series, but he died before they had everything in stone. Edwin Outwater was the conductor for S&M2.

[@saraarastey2100]

I remember myself in 1999 with 15 years only listening this CD again and again and again. And trying to do dictation of the arrangements to play with my violin "with them". I absolutely love them since then.

[@KyleS.1987]

Another brilliant orchestral arrangement by Michael Kamen!

[@richardlester9241]

one of the best albums they ever made. love, love it!!!

[@Fenthule]

Killswitch Engage should be your next new love lol The band has an interesting history having had two main singers - Jesse Leach who started it but left, replaced by Howard Jones, who also eventually left and Jesse came back haha. I feel you would REALLY like this band, they're high energy, lyrical, deep, and most of all both vocalists are *chefs kiss*. I'd probably recommend The End of Heartache live. the video with about 1m views has perfect audio and is a fantastic showcase of at least Howards insane talent. Genuinely one of the best singer/screamers out there in many people's opinions.

[@scwebb]

Funny you should mention the technical difficulties of recording and mixing a band with a live orchestra. Bob Rock (Metallica’s producer at the time) said he had a nightmare with the original ‘99 version of S&M when he discovered a delay between the band and orchestra when mixing the album. He realised that Michael Kamen had been conducting off of Lars’ drumbeat, but hadn’t realised that James sets the tempo and Lars follows him (the same way Keith Moon did with Pete Townshend in The Who). By the time it got to the orchestra they were slightly behind, something that was imperceptible during the show but was evident in the recording and required a hell a lot of work to fix. For what it’s worth, pretty sure all instruments here are live although (knowing the issue from the previous concert) it’s entirely possible they’re on a click.

[@kathrync8632]

Super interesting. I didn't know this about the mixing headache.

[@iowanjetsfan1317]

You should check out All Within My Hands from this same concert. That song REALLY puts Hetfield's vocal talents on display.

[@Ben.T0722]

Different concert, that was S&M 2 as S&M 1 predates St. Anger

[@HemiSlant6828]

@@Ben.T0722 This was S&M 2. They also did No Leaf Clover at this concert.

[@Ben.T0722]

@@HemiSlant6828 wow i dont know how i didnt notice that

[@yuritesticoff1141]

The original version James was at his absolute peak in vocal ability, it will shiver your timbers

[@NoahParker98]

In the original studio song, the part you talk about artificially changing his voice up to the mic, is because in the song itself, there’s a radioish effect on his part at the beginning of that section, so when he does it live he tries to get close as he can to mimicking it . Hope it makes sense now ! Great insight

[@commandercarr4797]

I will say, every time Metallica has played live with a symphony, it is played live. There's an interesting documentary about the original S&M concert that I think you would like: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWilq32OjbySpdE

[@adnangulcur9356]

I try to post a suggestion for Primus or Les Claypool in general. Tommy the Cat is a stand out but a good deep track would be Frizzle Fry

[@satanihelvetet]

I agree in the development of James voice and singing tecnique. At the first album it was pretty horrible, getting better for each album. Until the giant step at the Metallica album ("Black album") he was a great singer of trash metal, but after he became a great singer in whatever rock/metal they would play.

[@MycontentisgoldJerryGold]

Has James ever had vocal training? He seems to be more of a natural singer.

[@satanihelvetet]

@@MycontentisgoldJerryGold I don't know. But with the huge step he does from ...and justivce to black album I would guess he did some training.

[@aaronhommel4615]

I just watched you go from Ren to Metallica, flawlessly I might add! Great job as always. Just enough to help us learn something we might not know but not so much you get too far into the weeds. Another awesome reaction!

[@johncarpenter3751]

This song is fire 🔥

[@sportscardsplus318]

Fair to Midland is a prog metal band that you need to check out. The lead singer, Darroh Sudderth, is absolutely amazing. He has a very unique sound and his range is off the chart. The song Dance of the Manatee really showcases his talent.

[@commandercarr4797]

I also learned quickly that, especially in live band concerts, you are SUPPOSED to basically kiss the mic when performing live. In the context of, at least rock and metal, you need to kiss the mic.

[@KarinaRomaoAntunes]

This show was amazing.

[@stevesweeney4821]

Did the reason that sounds so good is because it’s in such a small arena under 15,000 and they’re playing dead centre notice how the crowds always louder this is why it sounds so good. This is how they overcame the problems you’re talking about and that’s why it’s so fucking awesome.

[@adamdunbar8260]

James loves mids. Edwin Outwater did an amazing job. Edwin has huge metal connections abd the orchestra all had headphones or in ear monitors

[@etforde]

Don’t want this merry month to end 🤘😁

[@Luana6350]

Yeah, of course Metallica can't be missing! Great song❣

[@tyef572]

There's also a video out that shows all the behind the scenes of this show. Months in advance up till they step on stage

[@bjhellstream]

In the first show with the symphony it was said that the band would just play the songs straight up and the symphony just had to latch. Only thing was that there were no place for improvisation for the band. No clicks. That time Michel Kamen did the arrangement and conducted the orchestra. The orchestra was stunned by the loud roar from the Metallica fans as opposed from the polite applause of a normal symphony audience. You should check out Dimmu Borgir if you haven't yet. Gateways or Kings of the carnival creation live with Norwegian radio orchestra at the Forces of the northern lights show! Black metal with an orchestra and choir.

[@nataliephillips9494]

amazing

[@FatBoySlim696]

First S&M version was better

[@jeffmiller2012]

When you look closely, you can see that every member of the symphony has ear monitors in. Metallica also wrote this song specifically for the San Francisco Symphony.

[@Tarquin21723]

You should look at Tesseract. Hexes, Juno, Dystopia, or any of the live songs they did live for the Lockdown.

[@mustafasarkisla]

This is one of my favorite mettalica album of all time. You should do some megadeath too

[@arrv544]

James was back at his best

[@ΕλπίδαΑδριανουπολίτου]

Since you really like Iron Maiden, "The Talisman-live En ViVo" is a great choice for Merry month of metal! Greetings from Greece! 🤘🏼

[@daver18qc]

I know this is 10 months old, but come on Ken! "METTALICA" ?!?

[@tsubakiaki5095]

Can you Check out Lord of the Lost? Blood and Glitter is One of there newer Songs but older songs like priest or One last Song are also great.

[@tomjudge7920]

The conductor came up with the idea ... it's all live and full play

[@marierodrigue1445]

Manowar Metal Daze and the cover of this song by Dan Vasc.

[@andrewphillips5323]

Personally I prefer the original version from the S&M album in 1999. I think that's probably my favorite Metallica album.

[@texasshanesaw]

Your title is misspelled sir.

[@mzaentertainment5618]

Singing while playing guitar especially this kind of music is not easy.

[@RobbieFitzgerald]

I imagine he's singing close to the mic to preserve volume when the part is quieter.

[@Drummer4life86]

Rest assured… Metallica never plays with backing tracks or pre-recorded tracks

[@ImDembe]

Love to hear James sing, he is not the best singer but his voice is like "constant" hitting and the lack of vibrato makes him stand out.

[@nuhacetquinteroportero8556]

man, react to "the outlaw torn", a greate one of metallica

[@tyef572]

You misspelled metallica..

[@alexandremaireno-ni4ec]

MetaLLica, not MeTTalica

[@JohnChilders-x9t]

Volbeat

[@jimenamartinez4997]

The '99 version is very superior

[@alexgrey3964]

One of my favorite Metallica song, but not the best live performance..

[@tclkp28]

How dare you diss on M. Hetfields mic choice. He is a master at what he does! Don't see you with crowds of 1.6 million ppl coming to watch you!

[@sportsmom165]

James & Dave Mustain really aren't very good singers but work for their bands. Certainly not in the same realm as Dio, Dickinson, Tate & Halford.

[@NQuiroz17]

Original version in SF is much better

[@jonniewalker1725]

Watch the video from 1999. This one isn’t the best version.

[@MrJoeandJenn]

Yeah this whole album is the bad version of the original S&M album. JAMES VOICE JUST WASNT THERE