Thanx so much for your kind donation Sherrilee! I always put donation back into the channel! Awesome!❤❤❤
@yellowduck80617 ай бұрын
I saw Fil's video. The fact the Eagle's lawyers haven't challenged him on his findings, proves it. Fil, ROCKS💪
@atreb567 ай бұрын
Fil is excellent in his analysis.
@ellenw3917 ай бұрын
What could any atty for the Eagle's or Henley say?? The vocal waves were virtually identical. All it would do is have it validated in court, when a court agrees it was a pre-recorded vocal. And FAR more people are likely to hear about it then, then those of us wise enough to follow Fil lol ETA and that likely would open the door to countless people who paid big bux for tickets into a class action lawsuit saying they paid to hear live vocals. It could potentially lead to a huge, expensive mess! Especially since Fil proves the point. They would be smart to ignore and pray people don't hear about it
@patrickjohnwoods78167 ай бұрын
Jethro Tull - We Used to Know = Hotel California. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2TTfH-BdpaJpMU
@yrbadself7 ай бұрын
I saw Fil's video (I have been subscribed to him for years). He does a great job in his all of his videos to show the greatness of so many performers. Love his videos on so many great guitar players, and vocalists. He really tends to be complimentary. Even in his analysis of the Eagle's vocals, he was not condemning, he only showed the facts.
@doonbiz7 ай бұрын
Henelys performance of Desperado in 2023 was 98% identical to his performance of the same song in 2024. In the studio, it's likely some effects were added to the Henley vocal to make it sound live. Fil Henley of wings of Pegasus is exacting in his song analyzes. All those people who spent money to see the eagles perform live we're cheated by Henley (perhaps others) by Don not doing his job and miming another version of Desperado. If I'd been there and paid, I'd be absolutely livid. Thanks Fil and Wings of Pegasus. And thanks to this channel for joining in, adding an extra voice to the eagles participating in something that should be against the law.
@sunshinecoolwater95287 ай бұрын
He should file a lawsuit against himself for the unauthorized use of his music in a live setting.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
LOL! Now why did I think someone would tie current events into this circus of a story Sunshine? 😉👌❤
@Thomasmemoryscentral7 ай бұрын
That sounds as absurd as the time Saul Zaentz sued John Fogerty for plagiarizing his older songs just because John didn’t have ownership over his original catalogue that Saul purchased. He criticized Fogerty for creating songs that sounded too much like himself and even the judge felt confused
@sunshinecoolwater95287 ай бұрын
@@Thomasmemoryscentral My comment is made in ironic jest.
@MountainHomeJerrel7 ай бұрын
Dang dude. Dang.
@gizzy24037 ай бұрын
😂😂
@MartinHMyers7 ай бұрын
And McCartney gets criticized for his current voice. For me, at least he is singing live!
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Spot freakin’ on Martin! ❤❤❤
@mayaram24117 ай бұрын
True. At least there’s that. His voice is deffo fading though.
@MrKeychange7 ай бұрын
I wish he'd rest his voice a little though. The man's compulsive need to work all the time is doing more harm than good.
@canadianstudmuffin7 ай бұрын
Yes. I just commented on this video and said the same thing before reading your comment...
@patrickhenry46757 ай бұрын
@@MrKeychange Three hour concert last time I saw him. That does not help.
@donsullivan11377 ай бұрын
If these artists are going to lip sync then we should be able to buy tickets with Monopoly money.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Ooh! Nice burn Don! But also, all so true! 🏆🏆🏆❤❤❤
@abc-yv2js7 ай бұрын
Comment of the month award
@travisk42157 ай бұрын
Is there another kind of money? 😉
@brianforgie77247 ай бұрын
@@travisk4215Canadian Tire money. Its a chain of stores in Canada and they gave you paper money from their chain when you made purchases. Got a whole stack of it.
@JohnBowl146907 ай бұрын
Lip sync or fake "real bands" like Journey with Arnel Pineda. All the same in my opinion. Don't get me wrong...I like Arnel, but it's not Journey. There's a market for these cover or fake bands and so the bands sell it. A lot of rich boomers want to re-live their childhood. Perhaps it reminds them of their first kiss, or first car. I get it. I personally wouldn't go to these concerts. I choose not to reflect back on my teen years too often because I tend to want to go back...and I can't anyway. Life is great right now in my 60s, so I need to enjoy the moment here and now.
@TheJimburke7 ай бұрын
Finding out Henley is lip syncing gives me total respect for Bonjovi calling it quits because his voice is too damaged to sing.
@kevin24007 ай бұрын
Bon Jovi should of called it quits after blaze of glory
@JohnBowl146907 ай бұрын
Same with Steve Perry. I personally believe that's why Steve cuts his own albums, but never returned to Journey. Steve's voice is still ok, but I think it would become painfully obvious if he tried to sing songs like LaDoDa...that he just can't do those songs anymore. Most of these artists have tons of money, so I don't see why they do this sort of stuff. But hey...it's the people's money and they will fork out hundreds of bucks to see these cover bands. Honestly, I don't understand it, and I personally would rather see a tribute band because they are usually 5x cheaper. But that's just me I guess.
@Harrybollox7 ай бұрын
BJ used to use tracks . Glad I never went to see them, and I was in a BJ cover band, we were good, no tracks
@bloodybones637 ай бұрын
@@JohnBowl14690 Hotel California is a very good tribute band. They say they are sanctioned by Henley. I've seen them twice, will again. PS, first time, front row, $30, next time 3rd row, $60. ha
@thema19987 ай бұрын
When did Bon Jovi say that? Jon hasn't retired from performing... yet! Plus, the band is going to release a new album on June 7. Are they going on a farewell tour? 🤨
@gpetheri7 ай бұрын
Thank you for crediting Fil, it's a must see video.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
No problem G! Thanx! ❤❤❤
@brian71933 ай бұрын
I am a huge eagles fan and while i hope this is false the video I seen on wings of pegasus site is a well put together piece and knowing how the eagles deal with things I think the fact they haven't had this taken down speaks volumes,now as I said at the start I am a huge eagles fan, and there are 2 sides if the coin. I can understand. That using ba king tracks coukd give the fans a better performance on the night,but I woukd rather hear one if my fave artists performing live on the night with dodgy vocals than have them mime, nowadays fans are not allowed phones etc at gigs to stop videos if shows being recorded,I think it's time that some sort of legislation is brought in that if artists are doing a live tour they should be banned from using backing vocal tapes so the fan's are getting what they pay for especially with ticket prices as high as they are now
@stevemclean57877 ай бұрын
Fil is a master of track analysis.
@incognito595Ай бұрын
The Consummate professional.
@gonegonegone46037 ай бұрын
After they unceremoniously threw Don Felder out of the band, I never cared to see them play live again. I always loved the Felder-Walsh interplay and when that was gone, it was over for me.
@roadiethegamecat41247 ай бұрын
Felder wrote one of the best music autobiographies I have read. "Heaven and Hell My Life In The Eagles". If you get a chance it's a great read.
@Thomasmemoryscentral7 ай бұрын
@@roadiethegamecat4124 Frey and Henley attempted to sue him instead of combating back in say an interview response. If that is the direction they refused to take, suing Felder proves it right. They tried to throw out his original contract of equal cash to scoop more for themselves
@peternewman34877 ай бұрын
My thoughts entirely.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Exactly GoneGoneGone! Exactly! ❤❤❤
@jesse-gz1ri7 ай бұрын
Same here.
@Rick18837 ай бұрын
It's a Don Henley heritage band. People are deluded if they think they have paid a large fortune to see the Eagles.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Oh I like the Name Rick! The Don Henley Heritage Band! Love it! Sounds like a foundation! ❤❤❤
@christophercripps76397 ай бұрын
I guess heritage works because at least one original is left. After that it is a tribute band or cover band unless promoted by the “Eagles” (rock band)* trademark owner. There is a TM & SM owner who can trot out any old live bodies to go so far as to lip synch & fake playing to backing tracks.** *As opposed to the NFL Franchise Philadelphia Eagles LLC which owns “Eagles” Reg’d TM for various sorts of apparel offered for sale in a “different market.” The Eagles of Henley is a Reg’d Service Mark owned by Eagles LTD in Cal. and covers “entertainment services provided by a music group in the form of live performances.” **”Live performances” under TM law is probably classified as a “service” and “live” would seem to include a living body lip synching in front of a living audience. There is probably a Red’d TM that covers the products & goods of music and entertainment distributed on tape, vinyl, CDs, streaming, etc.
@65boogerbutt4 ай бұрын
Part of that falls on their greedy mgr. Irving Azoff (he manages several classic bands, milking it). Pushing them out on the road w/o Glen. For Azoff 30 pcs of silver isn't enough
@k_DAN7 ай бұрын
Any artist who is lip-syncing and/or relying heavily on backing tracks, is committing fraud.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Boom! And spot on Dan! ❤❤❤
@Wyl77 ай бұрын
I’d say context is required. A solo musician like Buckethead plays live guitar over backing tracks (the “band”), and there’s nothing fraudulent because he makes no attempt to hide it or deceive the audience. There’s no one on stage besides him, so it’s impossible for anyone to think humans are playing drums and bass live in his concerts.
@circlemover7 ай бұрын
Not true. The artist is there and performing live on stage even it is lip-synced. Its still a performance. How an artist presents live, is up to them. As it is up to the individual to go and watch the performance. Don't get hung up on using technology and post-production tracks on live performance. After all, the artist makes the music in the first place and produces the backing tracks. Many vocalist have ruined their voices on arduous live tours, after all, they are only human.
@dannyc78397 ай бұрын
Depends on the genre. I just saw Gary Numan, and he was fantastic for his age, but his style of music has many layers to replicate live , even with a band. So some are obviously backing tracks or samples. The Eagles on the other hand are known mostly for their vocals and vocal harmonies and acoustic guitars , so Henley in particular deserves to be ridiculed.
@TheBassgoddess7 ай бұрын
I think if an artist wants to lip-synch, they should inform ticket buyers, so we can make the choice to attend or not. Full transparency is required, or stay home !!
@billonesty7 ай бұрын
I find this particularly reprehensible considering what Frey and Henley did to Randy Meisner when he was losing his high notes on his signature song Take It To The Limit.
@CHUMPTYTRUMPTY6 ай бұрын
Great point. They treated Randy like shit!
@thedude46726 ай бұрын
Frey and Henley were/are bullies. If you didn't defer to them, you were persona non grata in The Eagles. Good music, not good people.
@nancyneugebauer97536 ай бұрын
I agree! Randy was my guy!!!
@martinstitchener24307 ай бұрын
Fil’s Wings of Pegasus channel is amazing, I really respect how he calls out things like this. He has done several things on autotune and pitch correction that also show how as music lovers we are being ripped off. As to the Eagles , I am a huge fan, but I do not see them as a band anymore, it's shameful if Don is miming and sadly now Glen has passed away, it feels like they have become their own tribute act. I would be happy if they recorded another album with the latest lineup and toured with that(with tickets that are actually priced realistically), but I wouldn't cross the road to see them doing what they are doing now. We need people like Fil and yourself to keep getting the message out there regarding how we are being duped, and we need the bands/acts to listen and respect the fans again.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
I so agree with you regarding Fil and his channel Martin! And thanx for your kind words regarding mine brother! ❤❤❤
@HaleysTusk7 ай бұрын
I honestly don't think it would get the reaction you think it would. Back in the 70s-90s, sure, this would be sacrilege, but have you seen the younger acts of today, the ones people are shelling hundreds to see? With as much dancing and gyrating, you'd have to have ungodly breath control to keep pitch & tempo while dancing all over the place. Audiences today are used to act using backing tracks and probably miming, because they are entertained by the spectacle. Musicality and respect for live music were things that past audiences cared about, not todays' audience.
@ellsbyr78557 ай бұрын
All I have to do is walk up to the microphone, and say I’m getting old, but I’m gonna give you the best I got, the people will understand
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Bukkseye Ellsbyr! 🎯🎯🎯❤
@tanduay647 ай бұрын
Henley's ego is waaaay too big for him to even think about doing that.
@pedromancenithe3rd7 ай бұрын
Hmm, not for 250 dollars they won't!!!!!
@connievino42267 ай бұрын
Exactly, wow
@deadbang2417 ай бұрын
People don’t like excuses , especially when they paid good money, they want to hear a great show , like on the recording , only louder . To do less than that , your ticket price would be expected to be reduced.
@pseudosun7 ай бұрын
i want to hear the imperfections, the soul, live. Zero tolerance for lip syncing.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Yeah! Me too PseudoSun! That’s half the fun of watching someone live! ❤❤❤
@christophercripps76397 ай бұрын
I am in your camp. I remember the Rolling Stones at the Super Bowl. Compared to earlier live videos quite a bit rougher at the SB. I think Stevie Nicks has kept it fairly real. Compare “Edge of 17” live at Red Rocks or at the Whiskey in the ‘90s (?) to Crystal Visions (Melbourne 2006) or at Chicago: not as sweet vocals as Rumours and maybe auto-tuned but different arrangements. (All/mostly available on YT.) I remember listening to an old Grand Funk RR live album on vinyl (parent’s) which on the jacket clearly stated the recording retained all the grit of a live performance - crowd noise, buzzing, etc.
@aaronknight97597 ай бұрын
A weeks pay for a lipsync show is a sham. No thanks.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Damned right Aaron! But these folks think they are a vacation! No thanx! ❤❤❤
@sunsetcaptiva85737 ай бұрын
"They stab it with their steely knives, but they just can't kill the beast..."
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Superb Sunset! Bravo! 🏆🏆🏆❤❤❤
@patrickjohnwoods78167 ай бұрын
Jethro Tull - We Used to Know = Hotel California. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2TTfH-BdpaJpMU
@donryan8387 ай бұрын
Saw the Pegasus segment as well and spot on. Just waiting for a top reporter with guts to own interview Henley and ask him directly about lip syncing.
@tomthompson56867 ай бұрын
The "Eagles" haven't existed since their break- up post the Long Run album; only the drama of Henley/Frey. Good post, thank you for Fil's hat-tip.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
BOOM! Well said Tom! ❤❤❤
@EricSchultz-zs8hz7 ай бұрын
I just saw the latest Wings of Pegasus video, in which he uses detailed electronic analysis of Don Henley's vocals for "Desperado" in live performances of the song from 2023 and '24. The Wings of Pegasus guy demonstrated by singing something twice, and showed how the analysis lines differed in his own voice, recorded twice in just one minute. Then, we see that a Don Henley performance from last year matches up almost perfectly with another a year later. Michael, I always like your commentary. I thought of posting a comment on one of your previous videos on backtracking, but now you've got this new one, which is another good one.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Thanx so much Eric! And I agree that Fil at Wings of Pegasus does a great job brother! ❤❤❤
@SuziQ.7 ай бұрын
Fil just uploaded an update, with more performances, and more examples of his own vocals, and how his don’t match.
@lawrenceadkins29247 ай бұрын
But Fil did his demo acapella, so naturally the timing is not going to be the same.
@SuziQ.7 ай бұрын
@@lawrenceadkins2924 , It was just one sustained note. What point are you trying to make? Don Henley is lip syncing.
@davidschecter52477 ай бұрын
Great that you credited Fil. Some people pass this knowledge off as their own. You're great, Michael, and your presentation is perfect!
@jamesaladits45377 ай бұрын
I saw the Eagles in 2019 but I worked at the venue so I got paid to see them. Most of the show I stood next to the sound mixer and I'm convinced that this is the best place to view a concert. The sound was like a record. Maybe it was!! I agree that paying for a live performance should mean hearing the artists perform live. I watched Fil's channel a few days ago and the similarities in Henley's performances proved to me he uses recorded vocal tracks.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Spot on James! Well said brother!❤❤❤
@marknovak64987 ай бұрын
Wings of Pegasus looks at the sound waves and makes a case that is impossible to refute but the similarities are undeniable. Big fan of his work.
@davidtexter9137 ай бұрын
Glad you and Fil are bringing this up. Some of these bands just need to retire instead of scamming the fans. The music industry is self destructing and has been for a while. Need to start all over again in the garage/basement and local 50 seater pub! Rock on!
@terrencereardon63747 ай бұрын
I rather watch horse racing.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Thanx David! And a Rock On right backatcha!❤❤❤
@brianforgie77247 ай бұрын
@@terrencereardon6374oh ya. Drop a couple bucks on a pony and have some fun. I have spent many a nights at the track.
@allenrwhite7 ай бұрын
Kudos for recognizing Fil’s work on this. He’s a great guy with a great channel.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
He sure is Allen! ❤❤❤
@garysteinert80407 ай бұрын
and they say AI is the problem, no, assholes are the problem.
@MrSupro7 ай бұрын
About 20 years ago when I saw them I was sitting next to the sound booth and was talking to one of the sound guys. They showed me the many racks of computers that kept the vocals in check. Basically on the fly pitch correction. He told me and I have heard it from others that work with him that only Joe Walsh and Schmidt could really do it live at that time and Henley and Frey for several years up to that point had been “enhanced” by processing.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Wow! Thanx so much for this additional information MrSupro! The evidence is mounting folks!❤❤❤
@timpenfield57 ай бұрын
No expert here, but DH never had a strong voice, seems unlikely his vocs would hold up so well.
@Joe-mz6dc7 ай бұрын
The Eagles have become The Pigeons.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
LOL! Good one Joe! ❤❤❤😂😂😂
@RealButcher4 ай бұрын
Dead Pigeons.... 😮
@davidwhitfield64327 ай бұрын
The way Fil breaks down any video is quite frankly amazing. Add to it that he's an accomplished musician himself makes his analysis videos that much more compelling. Fil has made it a mission to point out the state of today's music and the fact that most musicians and / or producers feel the need to mechanically alter EVERY singers' voices is a sad state indeed. As for Don Henley, why would it surprise anyone that he isn't singing. The mans 76 yrs.old touring day in day out was tough at 36. But this should be an eye opener for the fans, not just of the Eagles but of every band. Especially ones from the 70's & and 80s.
@frannyp467 ай бұрын
I hope Rick Beato picks up on this. He hates Henley with a passion.
@petergrewe69237 ай бұрын
Haha. I’m sure he has seen it. I ll forward the link to him
@martinsundland76147 ай бұрын
So do I! An absolute, egotistical jerk.
@wayne_twentyfive7 ай бұрын
I wasn't aware that Rick disliked Don so much .. I've seen him be quite critical of Don for being one of the biggest blockers of using his music for reaction videos .. But I didn't know that his issues with Don were as personal and intense as you suggest.
@SS-qo4xe7 ай бұрын
I would love that too but I highly doubt that he will. Henley has deep pockets and could crush a guy like Rick. Best thing would be for hundreds of thousands of Eagles fans who go to their concerts to simply turn away from them. No one can fight the box office.
@MrChopsticktech7 ай бұрын
@@wayne_twentyfive Last time I checked, Beato was getting blocked/demonetised because he tries to claim 'Fair use for educational purposes'. Using audio for 'What makes this song great?' is not educational according to the fair use doctrine (Google it). Rick also makes it personal, not blaming the record label, publisher etc. and instead acting like Don is sitting there just waiting for Rick to post a video. Rick has a lot of great videos but needs to learn how to use KZbin properly and follow their Terms of Use. He claimed he didn't know how to get in touch with KZbin to dispute a claim or something and couldn't figure out how to Google to find a phone number. The guy knows his musical stuff but needs to learn about copyrights and fair use exemptions.
@darthcheney74477 ай бұрын
It's hard to imagine Timothy B. Schmitt playing with the Eagles since '77 and not being a full time member.
@StaronWarner7 ай бұрын
He is not an original member ,
@StaronWarner7 ай бұрын
The original members were Glenn Frey, Don Henley, Randy, Meisner, and Bernie Leadon
@RichardBond-dn2fi7 ай бұрын
Joe Walsh and Timothy B. Schmidt both need to grow a spine!
@bloodybones637 ай бұрын
@@RichardBond-dn2fi They won't give up that payday & fame. They get paid very well to be sidemen. Henley & Frey never made that Don Felder mistake again.
@sheilamorgan38457 ай бұрын
@@StaronWarner Don Felder was not an original member but he was made an equal partner.
@gerardm41337 ай бұрын
Thankfully Elton and his wonderful long term band were playing live on his farewell tour these last few years
@gulfgal987 ай бұрын
I watched Fil's video on this subject and anyone who does not think that Henley is lip syncing should do the same. Thank you for this video and your kick a** commentary about what has happened in the music industry (with emphasis on the word "industry"). Most music today sucks because the industry want formulaic sounds.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Thanx so much for your kind words GulfGal! And yes Fil is FAB! ❤❤❤
@DCToonTime7 ай бұрын
When you’re done, you’re done! How much money do you need, Henley? Bow out gracefully.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
I second you DC! What say ye TRIBE? ❤❤❤
@michaelwills19267 ай бұрын
He might have the same problem Dylan has “holding up his end of the bargain with the chief commander”
@DCToonTime7 ай бұрын
Well, deceit is one of the edicts of the “chief commander”, so this may be so.@@michaelwills1926
@chloenkitty7 ай бұрын
At this point it’s not about the money, it’s the love of performing.
@DCToonTime7 ай бұрын
Love of performing? That’s the problem, HE’S NOT PERFORMING! He’s on stage pretending.@@chloenkitty
@jeffreyratliff46857 ай бұрын
Shout out to Fil. He is showing the man behind the curtain. All of these frauds need to be called out. Thank you for picking up on this. Preach brother.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Yeah, I love Fil’s channel! He’s got a great set of ears Jeffrey! ❤❤❤
@MrChopsticktech7 ай бұрын
Does he still do music or is it all analysing vocals?
@tomhuhn70827 ай бұрын
I stopped going to see the Eagles once the fired Don Felder, to me they stopped being the Eagles at that point. When Glen passed that just put the final nail in the Eagles coffin.
@jyesucevitz7 ай бұрын
Fil from Wings of Pegasus is probably the nicest guy I never met. I only found him about a year ago. he genuinely comes across as just real, honest and kind. (recognizing his talent would need more than a simple comment here.) nice guy.
@M0odyBlue7 ай бұрын
Thanks for giving credit to Wings of Pegasus. He is an amazing vocal analyst and his methods are scientific. He uses pitch monitoring software to analyze vocals. He has hundreds of vocal analysis videos. He is always kind and fair. He is extremely knowledgeable about music, and vocals and the physiognomy of creating human sound. He is also an amazing musician.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
I agree M0ody! He’s awesome brother! ❤❤❤
@floundergearjam7 ай бұрын
It's one thing to transpose your voice to a lower different key because you are getting up in years. But using backing tracks because you can no longer sing at all is complete BS and a slap in the face to your fans. It also reduces your concert to a blatant cash grab.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Spot freakin’ on Gearjam! ❤❤❤
@theoversouls7 ай бұрын
It's not even backing tracks (like an orchestra or whatever from the record) it's MIMING.
@leokimvideo7 ай бұрын
Michael your video made me look at recent live Eagles concerts. Yes Don Henley is looking sad, I noticed during Desperado he grasps the microphone with two hands (to hide the lip sync) and is heavily backlit. Maybe whats more alarming is it's taken a few years for concert goers to unpick this fraud. With Kiss it only took a few initial concerts of the EOTR tour for hardcore fans to pull up audio analysis of the concert sound. It revealed every concert was identical, and Pauls vocals never altered. As we all know the EOTR tour went of forever. This revealed to many when Paul was caught away from the microphone yet was clearly in the soundtrack or when the sync skipped a gear and the drumming track drifted from the instruments. It only takes one missed que to reveal the little man behind the curtain running all the smoke and mirrors.
@simondalzell56357 ай бұрын
Brilliant job by Fil. Proved Beyond Doubt.
@canadianstudmuffin7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the shout out, Michael! I figured you would do a video on this, and you did a superb job. The Eagles these days are a joke. Some fans can complain about Paul McCartney's vocals not being good live the past few years in concert (and on his albums) but at least he is singing live!!
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Thanks again for that link Larry! It was perfect timing as I was already researching this fiasco! But you put it all together for me brother! Thanx! ❤❤❤
@therockinsideoflife43677 ай бұрын
@@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLineGreetings my dear friend Michael. I heard today, that KISS sold the rights and ownership to there music for 300 Millionen Dollars. To a swedish Company. Could you please inform the tribe about it. Your friend from Germany 🇩🇪 Roger
@garymartin10457 ай бұрын
Quit wasting your money on this BS. Artist There's a band called Greta Van Fleet. Cheap Tickets better live than these guys or washed up. And you're knowing you're getting a real deal. You will not be disappointed.
@Robutube17 ай бұрын
I'm pleased you picked out Macca as an example of authenticity in concert. It is my understanding that he also sings in the original key, although I don't possess the skills to know this for sure. The guy's a force of nature and I feel blessed to have lived at the same time and his former band, the name of which escapes me for now😉.
@MellissaBoomeroftheNight7 ай бұрын
Canadian, aren't Fil's vids great? I don't catch them all, but love the ones I do. He works so hard. Take care, good people.
@EddieG18887 ай бұрын
For the amount of money they're charging for tickets, the revelation that they're miming is an absolute disgrace. I'll be surprised if there aren't some class action lawsuits filed in the US after this.
@poetsdreamsatc7 ай бұрын
Since Glenn Frey passed away no it’s not The Eagles. They’re my favorite band. I’ve seen them 3 times; 1975, 1976 (the tickets were $5) and The Hell Freezes Over tour. I would not pay over $150 for a ticket today especially finding out Henley is not live but memorex. Henley has become so greedy. Thanks Michael for this video. Glad I didn’t pay $500+ for tickets.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
You and me both Poet! ❤❤❤
@bradcrosier13327 ай бұрын
It wasn’t the Eagles after Henley and Frey showed their tiny dicks by crapping on Felder. I’ll pay to watch him any day of the week, screw Henley - glad I pirated his music back in high school, he deserves it more than anyone.
@bobl81837 ай бұрын
The Eagles used to be my favorite band until I read Don Felder's autobiography, 'Heaven and Hell.' Both Glenn and Don had reduced their founding members to mere hired hands and cheated them out of millions. True, the music industry is a dirty business, but having also read Tom Petty's biography, I gained much more respect for him who bucked the system and treated his band members with the greatest respect while truly appreciating his fans.
@bradcrosier13327 ай бұрын
@@bobl8183 - Yep, I always thought Henley was the biggest douche in Eagles, but after watching the documentary on them I realized Frey edged him out ever so slightly. Genuinely two of the worst people in the country ended up as partners in the same band. I like some of their music in spite of them.
@JefferyHagen7 ай бұрын
You hit the nail on the head. No one in the media is calling this out and you have the apathy of the people paying to see these groups. I was hoping you’d mention Fil too. Almost everything is about image now and there seems to be plenty of disposable income for people to pay for these shows just to say they were there.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Thanx User! ❤❤❤
@jdemarco7 ай бұрын
Milli-Vanilli Henley...
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
EXACTLY J! Ya nailed it! ❤❤❤
@garymartin10457 ай бұрын
Electric Light Orchestra The first real fakes Of concerts. And that's Was. In the 70s.
@simbatable7 ай бұрын
He is 76 and worth 250 Million dollars I guess he needs the affirmation?
@michaelwills19267 ай бұрын
I feel like all these touring acts are part of a money laundering ring for some unspoken purpose. It doesn’t make sense to be on tour at 76 years old. Knowing how the industry works, would not be a bit surprised
@markrushton15166 ай бұрын
250 million? bet its more than that
@thedude46726 ай бұрын
The ego is an insatiable beast
@TehKaiser5 ай бұрын
The fans themselves support him. It's clear they want to hear the songs, and then in their own assumption, think the miming is real, because the Eagles=good while modern musicians are bad. The masses really are simply irrational whiny little creatures.
@kingtrance3077 ай бұрын
“Underage nurses to take care of his fading frame” 🥊 Dude you know how to throw a punch! 🍿
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Got that one, did ya KingTrance? I just couldn’t help myself brother! 😉👌🏆❤
@agtrst7 ай бұрын
That almost sounds like a crime. LOL.
@patrickmalone93807 ай бұрын
Topless I imagine 😊
@michellemachet-philip28017 ай бұрын
Lol
@ShiddyFinkelstein7 ай бұрын
Just so none of them overdose like that one at his house. Thought he was going to jail for that but powerful people took care of it for him.
@LouiePlaysDrums7 ай бұрын
The Eagles stopped being the Eagles when Glenn Frey died. It's been "Don Henley and Friends" ever since.
@Magnetron337 ай бұрын
The Eagles stopped being the Eagles when Bernie Leadon left. He took that great bluegrass sound with him..Saw them open for YES in 72 and they were great. Saw them 3 yeasr later and they had become pretty boring. Money does bad things to musicians music
@MultiEviscerator7 ай бұрын
I'd go a step further, They stopped being the Eagles when they "fired" fellow band owner Don Felder. The magic between he and Joe Walsh was lost, because even though Steuart Smith is good at his craft, he is not Don Felder.
@davedavis7757 ай бұрын
They stopped when they crapped on Felder . Might as well say when Burnie left. Great music with originals plus Joe Walsh. Mid to late 70's . After that who knows . Certainly after HFO
@ShiddyFinkelstein7 ай бұрын
...and friends? More like hired hands that do what they're told.
@Magnetron337 ай бұрын
@@MultiEviscerator Fingers Felder was in the way of MORE MONEY. One of the most greedy bands ever
@waynedeadder6647 ай бұрын
Remember when Don got busted with two girls, 15 and 16, when one of them ODed? Ya, most people don’t because Don made his lawyer fix that problem. My buddy opened for the Eagles in the 90s. Said all the back up vocals were tracks and that they were all assholes
@JohnDavis-yj7lf7 ай бұрын
I worked the Don Henley building the perfect beat tour in Memphis years ago as a stage hand and ran spotlight for the show. They were running samples for the background vocals way back then...
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Boom! There ya have it folks! Direct from someone in the know! Thanx so much John! ❤❤❤
@sharonvalentinerex7 ай бұрын
Yes...
@sharonvalentinerex7 ай бұрын
No NDA? I signed one...
@OttoByOgraffey7 ай бұрын
@@sharonvalentinerexdo tell. What was your relationship with the band?
@sharonvalentinerex7 ай бұрын
@OttoByOgraffey I sold pro audio gear at a renowned facility. My sales partner there serviced his and Frye. It was completely obvious by what the bought, how things worked. Samplers and compressors. ALOT of money spent for home studios. The two of them were fiercely, and I mean very fiercely competitive in buying. It was very tricky because if the NDA's!!
@Tim0917 ай бұрын
On a pedantic note: the band is called Eagles, not "The" Eagles. We don't stick the in front of other band names: The Iron Maiden, The Nirvana, The Metallica!! Why does just about everyone do it for Eagles?!!
@seanswinton62427 ай бұрын
I believe its because the band is named after an animal or object. Like The Rolling Stones, Byrds, The Beatles, The Animals, The Blackbyrds, etc. That's my opinion.
@indochinapatriot4357 ай бұрын
I’m a retired Audio Engineer, living in Thailand. Back in the 80’s I was starting, put in a show in park west, park city Utah, don was promoting his solo record “ building the perfect beast “, Danny Kortchmar, burnin lead guitar. Don utilized something called “ Lyn drums” a sequencer, sampler, for playback of the horn / synth parts on “ Sunset Grill”. My memories of him are pleasant, very fussy- professional. I grew up in Thousand Oaks/ Malibu, so I consider The Eagles to be “ My Band”. I was 23, graduate of “ Sound Master” under the brilliant Brian Ingoldsby/ Hugh Allen. ABC/ Dunhil- Gotham NY/ Scully-Neumann. I saw the first Digital recorder, called “ Sound stream”. 8 bit -4 k. It sounded fake. One particular Engineer, who chose ABC studios, was “ The Immortal Roger Nichols, “who Created those timeless Steely Dan records. Still used by the old hands when referencing Commercial Sound Reinforcement projects. Ahh, the good old days ❤️☮️🙏
@jeffreyflint62867 ай бұрын
Baby what a big surprise 😂. Oh, excuse me that's Chicago😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Somehow I kinda figured as much Micheal. Great commentary brother ❤❤. Shout to Fil too. He's way cool too.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
LOL! And I agree with you Jeffrey, Fil’s channel ROCKS !❤❤❤
@jeffreyflint62867 ай бұрын
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine yezzz indeed my friend.
@WildInNewEngland7 ай бұрын
Been watching Fil at Wings of Pegasus for a few years now. When I saw his analysis of the Don Henley miming scam I knew it wouldn't be long before you were on it. People need to know what they're paying for. Thanks to Fil and the guy(s) that send the evidence to him and thanks to you for reporting it and bringing people's attention to the scam.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Fil did a bang up job! And yes he has a wonderful channel! I’m a fan NewEngland! ❤❤❤
@roygarcia27537 ай бұрын
Spot on brother. Would the Eagles let me pay with Monopoly money since their concerts are fake too?
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Oh that’s the perfect analogy IMHO Roy! Spot freakin’ on brother! ❤❤❤
@Patsygraham-ib5wt7 ай бұрын
I saw the hell freezes over tour which was awesome. I did see them one more time with Glen Frey but no felder it was just ok. Joe Walsh was awesome. Btw but without felder I refused to pay the high ticket fees son principle. Still love the band.
@passionforlust7 ай бұрын
There is no way I would pay to see such bunk, and I feel sorry that some find it acceptable to throw away good money on such. 63 here Michael and I try real hard not to play the fool, and it is obvious I am not alone in this, cheers fellow wise one!
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
On to you as well Passion! You are a scholar and a gentleman! ❤❤❤
@petermills-c1hАй бұрын
There is nothing wrong with people paying a lot of money for a concert, provided they are told that they are really just hearing a recording. To withhold that information and call it a live concert is fraud.
@webexpertcharlie7 ай бұрын
I’m fine with an occasional backing track, such as a synth loop needed for a specific song, but lip synching lead vocals is ridiculous. This also removes any possibility for improvisation, since all tracks have to run at a specific time in the song. What if the guitarist wants to play an extra 16 bars of solo? Can’t do it, the vocal track is timed to come in at a set time. I’ll be saving my money for live bands instead.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Well said Charlie! I agree wholeheartedly! ❤❤❤
@taproot3817 ай бұрын
I think they’ve been singing to backing tracks for at least 40 years . Remember the Eagles Live double album from the early eighties and all the re-editing and enhancement
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Good point Taproot! ❤❤❤
@ToddLongwell7 ай бұрын
In that case, it was merely because they're anal retentive perfectionists. I've heard bootlegs from the tour that spawned the live album and they sound great.
@randyharbaugh78197 ай бұрын
Fil does a great job analyzing tracks with that pitch software, glad that someone forwarded his video on Henley. What we don't know at this time is it just Desperado that he is not really singing live, are there other songs and which one are those, maybe all of them on lead.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Yeah, I subbed to him immediately just so I would be notified of future analysis’s on Eagle vocals Randy!❤❤❤
@darrylwalker18677 ай бұрын
Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy. Great lyricist, fantastic (in his day, and as per his backing tracks) vocalist, and undeniably good (business) decision maker. Nice guy? Not so much. Man for the fans? Not so much.
@nickwebb92907 ай бұрын
Agree, Fil’s post was spot on accurate and concise. Also feel your frustrations with many of today’s artists Michael. However I would say you’re wrong and should lay off Paul McCartney. He doesn’t go out as The Beatles or Wings. He gigs as the guy who wrote/co-wrote classic songs of our times. Always like your non nonsense posts Michael, keep them coming 😁
@marktrimnell82457 ай бұрын
I think the criticism towards McCartney was about ticket prices rather than miming or going out as 'Wings' or 'Beatles', wasn't it? Apologies if I missed something and have got this all wrong. Macca's voice is clearly not what it once was (surely one of the greatest vocalists in his prime, I would suggest, but not over the last 15-20 years admittedly) but at least the fella is honest in concert and gives it everything he has with his fading chops. No miming. Far more credible and honest than the Henley con, I reckon.
@CraigShifflet7 ай бұрын
Props to you for the shout out for Fil at WIngs of Pegasus. He does the lord's work.
@incognito595Ай бұрын
I love your humor, Michael. We all need to laugh a little, or, A LOT, in these sad times! You do a Really Good Job! Thank you.
@thecrossroadcafe72917 ай бұрын
It's Don Henley playing the songs of The Eagles. Another example is The Who. They should be called Who's Left. Foreigner is also not Foreigner. And the list goes on..... I would definitely rather hear the artist sounding not so good, as opposed to backing tracks. And like the Bible says, the love of money is the root of all evil. You hit that nail square in the head! I personally would not fund their retirement. I would rather go see the James Gang. They are all living, and Joe is about as real as it gets. Thanks Michael.
@kirkullrich45507 ай бұрын
In the UK They are known as the two
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Oh God yes! The James Gang! Ya hit the nail on the head CrossRoadCafe! Bullseye! 🎯🎯🔨❤️
@robbhahn88977 ай бұрын
Who's Left 😅
@Thomasmemoryscentral7 ай бұрын
Technically they at least contain Roger Daltrey and Pete Townshend for The Who. The guitarist and major songwriter plus the lead singer.
@thecrossroadcafe72917 ай бұрын
I don't hold it against Daltrey and Townsend calling it the Who. John and Keith are dead. I heard Roger still sounds pretty good despite being 80 years old. I would have loved to have seen the original Who. I play bass and John is probably my all time favorite bass player . A sonic assault on the ears and probably part of the reason I have so much ringing in my ears. Check him out on Woodstock 99 with The John Entwistle Band. They were just killing it!
@sharonvalentinerex7 ай бұрын
A friend of mine for many years is in an Eagles tribute band. He has always sounded so much like Henley its truly uncanny. We are all getting older now, and just like the rest of us, his high notes are ruff, happens with age. It just does. I sent Fil's link to him. He was furious! Called FIL a Lil weasel. Lol. Swears if anyone can still sing perfectly, it's Henley! 😮 I used to sell pro audio gear in 1998, I knew this was going on with many big time singers, just by the gear they bought, ( in pseudonyms) of course, for their home studios, their production companies, including all touring engineers. We all had to sign NDA's, for certain clients. It's been an industry norm for a long time. Double edge sword really, how heartbreaking to hear them sound awful, as well as knowing what we now know. Some artists don't lipsync. Change the key is a better choice for me! We all grow older. Vocal chords change with wear! Lying for the big bucks, isn't cool. But oh well. I'm gonna say it, Henley has ALWAYS been a music nazi! Wink wink. It IS true.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Great information here Sharon! I’m fine with changing keys, always have been! Thanx! ❤❤❤
@sharonvalentinerex7 ай бұрын
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine We work with what we got. I use a harmonizer, on stage, the boys can't sing a third up! I don't hide my little friend! She's on a table next to me! If anyone asks, of course I tell them!
@lexpeters7357 ай бұрын
Great episode Michael, I certainly dislike the fact that so many top bands from yesteryear are out there touring ,charging top dollar with no or very few original members. To make things worse they are now resorting to lip syncing. If they can' cut the mustard, why are they defrauding paying customers and tarnishing the reputation of the original band.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Perfectly said Lex! ❤❤❤
@michaelwills19267 ай бұрын
Bob Dylan spoke about “holding up my end of the bargain” with someone he called “the chief commander” which to me is code for Ol’ Scratch
@elrioviolino35497 ай бұрын
There's just too much MONEY just waiting to be scooped off the table for the musicians AS WELL AS the industry execs.....so......everybody just goes along with the game and everybody comes out the other end millions of dollars richer. NO BRAINER. INTEGRITY??? WHAT THE HELL IS THAT???
@GlenKellawayfromthebasement7 ай бұрын
Michael..this is insane..imagine paying a couple hundred bucks and finding this out..should be able to sue..great video👍❤glen
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly Glen! It’s a crazy world out there!! ❤❤❤
@kbusby48247 ай бұрын
Don Henley's Dirty Laundry being aired. Love it. Sadly, I did not get to see them before Glenn died. I did see them last year with the Doobie Brothers. Had this info come out last year I would have saved myself $275.
@rodhaldon74957 ай бұрын
The worst part of all this is when Joe improvises or adds an easy to sing lyric. It almost feels like the improvised lyric was only put there to say to the audience "Hey, this must be live cause that lyric is not on the album".
@j.kliban91567 ай бұрын
That's the link I sent, MN. Fil is excellent in his analyses, explanations, and sincerity. You guys should have a chat! Wild stuff. The Eagle has crashed, seemingjy.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
I thought so J! And again that YOU for the heads up! ❤❤❤
@MJP30557 ай бұрын
This is the end of Don Henley as far as I’m concerned. I hope this video goes VIRAL
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Well, thanx to good folks like you MJP, it’s off to a nice start! Thanx! ❤❤❤
@Beau_T_McBoatface7 ай бұрын
Queen would always play an audio track during the middle of Bohemian Rhapsody live, because there wasn't a way to perform it live. They weren't trying to fool anyone, they would leave the stage while it was playing, and then go back to playing live when that section ended. Totally acceptable.
@SuziQ.7 ай бұрын
They weren’t fooling anyone. Henley is.
@aquamarine999117 ай бұрын
Which is crazy. I have a friend who's the lead singer in a Queen tribute band. I saw them at a local club, and they did Bohemian Rhapsody totally live, from beginning to end. And did a great job. So I never understood why Queen didn't do that part live.
@SuziQ.7 ай бұрын
@@aquamarine99911 , Wikipedia has a detailed explanation of why they couldn’t do the operatic part live.
@aquamarine999117 ай бұрын
@@SuziQ. The point is, I've seen it done to near-perfection in a local nightclub. Live is never perfect, but it's MUCH more interesting to hear musicians give a live representation of their songs than to hear a backing track. Every band changes things live. The Stones had multi-layered guitars on recordings like "Gimme Shelter", and the live version is always an amalgamation/simplification of the various tracks, often with Keith's guitar in a different tuning.
@SuziQ.7 ай бұрын
@@aquamarine99911 , I prefer a live concert without backing tracks, too. My point was that Queen are not hiding it, and have explained why they feel like they can’t do the whole song live. As long as a band is transparent about what they’re doing, I’m not going to criticize them. I do reject any use of auto tune, because I find it physically painful to hear (as far as I know, Queen doesn’t do that, but aside from this song, I’m not a big fan).
@EricSchultz-zs8hz7 ай бұрын
Wings of Pegasus has a new video, in which he demonstrates more with that sound analysis program. He pretty much perfectly sings the same note 3 times in a row, and visually, the line doesn't match at all, due to the imperfections in the vibrations of our vocal cords. He then shows how a recording of Don Henley singing "Desperado" in 2015 (actually live), and it doesn't at all match up with three other recordings in more recent years (which match up perfectly with each other). As you said, Don Henley is BUSTED!
@stephendringus81837 ай бұрын
And it was pointed out that the earlier sample was in a lower key...as you get older, you don't typically change to a higher key.
@jkmsaturn7 ай бұрын
I thought they were done touring by now. The continued pursuit of riches is tarnishing their legacy.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Oh they’re gonna run right into 2025 I bet! ❤❤❤
@reddrockingeezer7 ай бұрын
Fil stated that Don Henley "mimed" his vocal tracks, just a different way of saying lip-synced.
@99somerville7 ай бұрын
Fil is too polite to say it.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Yeah I concede to that ReddRocking! My bad! 😉❤👌
@thema19987 ай бұрын
@@99somerville He almost never uses the words "lip-sync" or "lip-syncing".
@chrishills24277 ай бұрын
Here in England mimed and lip sync mean the same thing
@allornadaaccordingtojack76012 ай бұрын
I saw Don Felder for free last night in my local park, and I would have gladly paid to see him. So freakin good, and with integrity, unlike Mr. Henley. I saw the Eagles once and would NEVER pay the king's ransom that they are demanding to see them again, even if they were singing for real. I will be giving a review and some commentary of the show over on my channel in the next day or so, if you or anybody are interested in coming over to watch. Thanks a bunch.
@fjcrod7 ай бұрын
It was the Eagles that started the golden age of high ticket prices, way back with their Hell Freezes Over tour.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Yes they certainly did FJCRod! Great point! ❤❤❤
@markwestervelt97087 ай бұрын
I agree with you 100%. When I go to live shows I love the mistakes and spit takes. Man. I still love watching the Beatles old live shows screwing up vocals and chords. Lol. Especially John. That’s what makes it better watching human beings playing. If i want perfection I’ll play the album. Go to a blues club and watch a real live performance. 👍
@JTRocks4Ever7 ай бұрын
The "Eagles" and I use the term loosely, haven't been the real band since Bernie Leadon and Randy Meisner left the band. Everything is phony these days....
@connievino42267 ай бұрын
This should go to court. Awful 😞. Thanks friend letting people know.
@seanswinton62427 ай бұрын
Yes, a class action lawsuit by ticket buyers.
@EricSchultz-zs8hz7 ай бұрын
I just saw another video by The Lake Erie Classic Rock Fan, who has compared 8 different videos over SIX years, showing that Don Henley has been lip-synching to the same exact recording over and over. I will not spend a penny on a ticket to see him putting on a fraud performance. I hope that people wake up to how they have been cheated, paying big bucks for what they thought would be an honest live performance, instead of the musician pretending to sing. You might as well stay home and watch old music videos on the internet.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Sorry for the ate reply Eric, but wow! Thanx for this additional info brother! ❤❤❤
@EricSchultz-zs8hz7 ай бұрын
Hey, as you said, Don Henley is busted!
@boboharperoldbobostillhere75882 ай бұрын
Saw them in 1977 on their Hotel California tour, it was at the height of their talent and their best lineup. They were definitely live back then and totally awesome.
@timfurnier70617 ай бұрын
At the VERY LEAST, what should happen is laws should be passed that say that if these bands are appearing in different places, there should be a disclaimer that says "background singers are recorded", "instruments are played at times from recorded material", and/or "lead vocals are from recorded material". If they don't do this, THEN IT'S FRAUD!!!!!!!! You're paying for a LIVE PERFORMANCE! If they're lip-syncing or using prerecorded material, then the consumer should know that so they can make an INFORMED DECISION on whether they want to pay so much to see them. That seems fair!
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
We need a MEMOREX clause Tim! 😂😂😂❤❤❤
@jamesrandazzo68787 ай бұрын
Well done Michael. I watch Fil often and he is so spot on and may I add extremely fair. A few points. I'm with you 100%. I hear people say they went and saw a certain group and then I tell them that there's only one of the original members or in some cases none of the original members and they looked shocked. Do your homework people. Also shame on Don Henley for not bringing Felder back.
@chrisbarlow35947 ай бұрын
Hi Michael, great video and tip of the hat to Fil. I'm also an ex sound engineer and have observed that Henley has been miming for years. Notice how the big screens never have any close ups of him doing lead vocals? Audience photography allows us to see the scam at least and it's shameful! Felder and Meisner were victims of the greed and bullying of Henley and Frey for a long time. No idea how Gill, Walsh and Smith go along with the fraud. I had assumed they were all dedicated artists with integrity??? Great pity
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
OK Folks! Chris here makes 3 sound engineers saying the same thing! Thanx for the confirmation Chris! ❤❤❤
@chrisbarlow35947 ай бұрын
Maybe a Rock and Roll hall of Shame nomination is possible for all these non-live 'live' acts from genuine music lovers like us?
@Thomasmemoryscentral7 ай бұрын
My only guesses for those 3: 1. Timothy got chosen by Glenn to quickly replace Randy because he asked Irving about him and Irving said he saw Timothy drunk at a bar but even he questioned the choice and Goenn just saud hes sure of it. Timothy probably just is happy he had that lucky chance to land a spot in a great band and he more than respects Randy for the fact he refuses to sing Take It To The Limit 2. My idea of Joe Walsh continuing the Eagles tours is Michael's guess that he sees joining them as his way of sobering up and probably finds it easy to just stay with them 3. Vince Gill is star power. He surely isn't an Eagle from how late he joined
@chrisbarlow35947 ай бұрын
@Thomasmemoryscentral Hey Thomas, I was actually referring to Stuert Smith sorry, not Timothy B. An amazing lead guitarist and producer that this current line up is lucky to have. The abuse of Meisner and Felder is now well documented, but I guess in the drug filled haze of the 70's lots of unpleasant things were said and done. Just lamenting the loss of talent that this wonderful band once had. Cheers
@Thomasmemoryscentral7 ай бұрын
@@chrisbarlow3594 Hi Chris and oh yeah, Stuart Smith. Some other videos on the Eagles mention him sometimes when people ask if Felder can return and Stuart is brought up. My guess for Mr Smith is he is a touring guartist with and for such a long connection, Henly at least is confident he cant step out of line to say no
@oldpartsnewstarts95027 ай бұрын
I saw Henley twice in the 80s. What a talented guy banjo guitar drums vocals. I would want my money back if I had attended one of those shows.
@OperationNorthwoods7 ай бұрын
Many, many moons ago ELO was accused of using prerecorded strings and other instruments during its "live" concerts. It was proven true and ELO's reputation (for their concerts) was deeply sullied. And then came along that wonderfully talented duo "Milli Vanilli." They had to give back their Grammy because they lip-sync'd *everything!* Now, "artists" have no issue at all charging $ hundreds and $ thousands to do the same thing. Words Matter --》 if it's a live performance, every single bit of that performance had better be LIVE. Otherwise, it is false advertising. But then again, does anything related to honesty matter anymore? [Spoiler alert] NOPE.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Well said NorthWoods! I concur! ❤❤❤
@SuziQ.7 ай бұрын
Milli Vanilli also had to refund concert goers and album buyers. They were forced to lip sync from day one. They had heavy German accents. I never liked them, but this example is what should happen to Don Henley (refund all lip synced concert tickets).
@OperationNorthwoods7 ай бұрын
@@SuziQ. If they had actually sung it themselves, it would have been, "Don't blame it on zee rain!"
@206Vin7 ай бұрын
I saw them on the Hell Freezes Over tour, but even then I didn't really feel I saw the "real" Eagles. I was too young to see them in the 70s. I cannot fathom why anyone would go see them now.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Very astute of you Vin! The drama was alive even then! Watch the DVD! Don Henley calling the orchestra guilty of sounding too white! What a freakin’ joke! ❤❤❤
@epeck11157 ай бұрын
Love the shout-out to the Wings of Pegasus youtube channel. It's great and Fil seems like a really good guy.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Sure is Epeck, I so agree! ❤❤❤
@GIBSONMARSHALL6667 ай бұрын
In his follow up video Fil compares a 2009 Henley live vocal track to the 2023/2024 vocal tracks and the difference is shocking. Way back in 2009 the vocals were "downtuned" so DH could hit the high notes , on the 24/24 vocal tracks the vocals are "uptuned" and sounding perfect. As an amateur musician in past days , I know for a fact you don't "uptune" the vocals as time goes on , it's 100% the other way around. Check out the follow up video.
@andrewbutcher33917 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t pay to see them. In the UK we have a fabulous tribute band called Talon who do their songs better than they do…check them out on KZbin.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
I certainly will Andrew! Thanx! I’ll even bet that you can see them for a reasonable amount! What a concept! 👌🏆❤ Post Script: Alright, alright I just had to check out Talon before moving on to the next comment Andre! You’re right, I’d go see them anytime! Thanx for the suggestion brother! ❤
@jimfoster79867 ай бұрын
Well played, sir, well played.
@EricSchultz-zs8hz7 ай бұрын
How sad it is that a tribute band is better than the actual remaining members are today (and I'm hypothetically including Joe Walsh and Timothy B. Schmidt as "members," since they were actually on many of the original LPs).
@MrKeychange7 ай бұрын
@@EricSchultz-zs8hzYou can always find a group of musicians who can sound like the records. To each their own, but I don't see the point of paying to be a prop in someone's rock n' roll cosplay. I can play the record for free. 🤷 The worst for me is the Beatle tribute bands. They're always Americans trying to sing with an exaggerated Liverpudlian accent, the John guy is WAY too nasally and can't rock, the Paul guy can't sing like Paul, they're way too old... 😂
@jazzpunk7 ай бұрын
Walsh played on 3 of the original albums...Schmidt, 2. Hard to believe, 7 Studio albums in their discography. The Police...even less.
@dogpd37 ай бұрын
Not honestly surprised by Henley lip syncing - he’s a perfectionist so it doesn’t surprise me that he would go to lengths to miming to pre-recorded tracks. That said people paid for live so he should sing live!
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Thanx Dogpd! ❤❤❤
@cobar53427 ай бұрын
Henley is pouring his reputation down the toilet - very successfully
@jimilee46095 ай бұрын
Henley a nasty bastard ! Ask David Geffen 😂😂
@carolinamay83287 ай бұрын
This needs to come to light. Don Henley should be ashamed. I saw the video that Phil on Wings...put out. He's great! Glad you're following up.
@atreb567 ай бұрын
Love Fil on Wings also.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
I agree Carol! ❤❤❤
@sebastienlavoie93347 ай бұрын
Another thing about the downfall of rock 'n' roll is where's the next generations?? Who's the next Aerosmith, Guns 'N' Roses, KISS, Alice Cooper, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Metallica or Scorpions just to name a few. There's none, that's why we still have the older bands still headlining festivals around the world. Nobody came to take their places, very few have the same magnitude.
@Farsider39557 ай бұрын
🤔….A Class Action law suit should be filed - that will stop this kind of crap! Great video by the way! - first time viewer here (going to check out some of your other content & likely will subscribe!) And yes, Fil (“Wings of Pegasus”) does outstanding analysis - and he’s right about the blatant CHEATING that the “Eagles” are doing. Fil has also done a follow-up vid on this Eagles scandal just a day or two ago. If a Class Action law suit was filed and was successful, THIS would put an end to bands cheating their fans. FULL DISCLOSURE is owed to fans paying their hard-earned dollars to see “live performances”. Without a doubt, this is outright CHEATING and DECEPTION.
@daverichardson19567 ай бұрын
I'm a big fan of the Eagles and love their music and style. I was considering buying tickets to see them in Manchester UK from 1st May but when I saw the prices ranging from £140 for seats (with restricted view) at the back of the arena to over £700 for seats in the front blocks, I was gob smacked. Your information makes me feel good that I didn't book anything. Just before Christmas I paid £35 to see the Illegal Eagles in Darlington UK and, man! they were something special, and that was all live.
@MichaelNoland-TheBottomLine7 ай бұрын
Yeah you dodged the bullet for sure Dave! ❤❤❤
@HaleysTusk7 ай бұрын
I got to see the "Hell Freezes Over Tour" w/ Frey, Felder, Walsh & Schmidt in Seattle for $60. I would never pay what they charge today for what they have on stage. Plus, Henley has become extremely unlikeable, I swear he has a perma scowl....