Microcivilization - The Click And The Dead

[@Mathmachine]

I love how this is one of those rare clickers that actually has a purpose to the restart and grind up again process rather than it just being a time sink and/or a money printing process.

[@DrZaius3141]

After finishing the game (i.e. unlocking everything there is to unlock at the time + getting a run with max lotuses + a full squad of ideal lvl43 rare heroes) I found it a bit repetitive and lackluster. Almost every reset, you unlock a new era, but the new era is virtually identical to the previous one, to a degree where it's even hard to remember whether you've been there before. Compare that to something like Realm Grinder, where different steps of the game might have hugely different best builds. MC has zero strategy. Now it's still mindless fun, which is why I finished it, but it's neither a brain teaser like RG, nor a smart commentary like CC or an actually complete game hiding as a clicker game like UPC. So in the end, the grind is all that's left - just perhaps a different kind of grind.

[@TheLazyFinn]

@@DrZaius3141 Well it is a EA game, so it might change

[@DrZaius3141]

@@TheLazyFinn Perhaps. But they still made the decision to have all the eras work identically.

[@TheLazyFinn]

@@DrZaius3141 maybe they will do something to shake it up a little, like the map is going to get updates at least, so maybe it will be random or something?

[@DanksterPaws]

⁠@@DrZaius3141Same conclusion, disappointing. I was so excited for this game. In the end every single era was just a reskin of the previous. It gets harder not because of the enemies, but because your armies get nerfed. Damage bonuses dont scale as well as stun bonuses, but stuns are countered by the fact that your armies get more expensive. It’s actually detrimental to upgrade. Although after ONE playthrough of ANY era, you usually have enough to upgrade that you wont struggle EVER again.

[@klemminguk]

27:05 "My own people are rising up against me! What did I ever do to them?" asks Jon, as he continues whipping them to cut wood.

[@andyc6766]

And then 46:04 we get some true Evil Jon vibes when his response to the Great Slave Revolt was "Oh yeah! Oh flippin' yeah! You didn't want to do this!"

[@sotnosen95]

And after earlier acknowledging that whipping his people has the risk of making his own people rise up against him, no less.

[@BlikeLaBlarm]

While I enjoyed the entire video, the moment Jon said he was moving to the Classical era I knew a rant about historical accuracy was coming up. 43:28 did not disappoint.

[@gabrielnichols9522]

I'm a bit suprised that Jon missed at 42:05 that while the map said cannibals what actually came for him was labeled as Celts. I would have anticipated that as a rant trigger on Roman slander

[@gileswhitaker9656]

Mammoths still being there in the classical age makes sense, as unlike in the real world, the civilization (i.e. Jon) had ignored them up until that point and not hunted them to extinction.

[@mailleweaver]

Yeah. Jon instead focused on murdering his neighbors to take their farmland, and the people who had to abandon their farms to hide from him in the mountains were eating each other out of starvation. He then hunted them down because cannibalism is wrong. Jon is a hero for saving the mammoths and ridding the world of cannibals.

[@brennenderopa]

I chuckled when hundreds of Jon's subjects starved and he very annoyedly claimed that he gave the explicit order to not starve.

[@LoblueHaze]

16:21 "I'm clicking too much in the clicking game." is a sentence that I never thought to be possible lmao

[@gregconen]

Despite the name, the point of clickers to automate away the clicks.

[@shinrailp1416]

I always love it when an incremental game gives real nice visual feedback to your progress and isn't just like a spreadsheet of numbers. I was 2 minutes into the video and bought the game already. I like clickers/incremental games in general and this one looks like a really really good one.

[@JesusChristMyLord]

An empire building clicker is just what I wanted to watch Jon play today

[@AgentWest]

You know what's automating itself better than those clicks? That thing that causes Jon to say "you know" over and over! Up to 68 in a 50 minute video, a new record. As a side note, the Parthenon rant was just the kind of thing I should have been expecting. Good show! :)

[@alexanderhammil6754]

"workers are the lifeblood that keep your society functioning"

[@petertrudelljr]

no no no, it's capital that keeps society functioning! (some industrialist somewhere)

[@belongtotoday]

This would make a fun livestream since there's often a lot of not much happening while you click-level-up things and build things. It gets pretty chaotic later on.

[@Xenotric]

a nice little clicker game that I look forward to see how they progress (its very very limited at the moment) also jon forgetting to convert the barbarian camp into a village for the extra worker

[@crimsonharvest]

For me the most abstract clicker of all, Universal Paperclips, turned out to be a horror game by the time I finished it. That might just be me.

[@shotgunshells2]

I love UP. It definitely does become a horror game at the end.

[@fuzzyfuzzyfungus]

RELEASE THE HYPNODRONES!

[@pablorepetto7804]

I really _hope_ it's not just you! I shudder to think of a person who'd be fine with that ending.

[@ChaoticNeutralMatt]

​@@pablorepetto7804i think I was fine with it? Probably the hydnodrones at work

[@alexmcd378]

The only game I've played that is both claustrophobic and the opposite. Agoraphobia doesn't really fit the entire universe

[@AsterInDis]

"I'm clicking too much in the clicking game" I imagine it's a thing implemented to prevent people from using auto-clickers.

[@NoReplyAsset]

is it just me or is it very *English* of Jon to ignore that the population is starving for most of the video?

[@Mixxie67]

I may be wrong but it feels like whenever Jon plays this type of game, starvation is inevitable.

[@theevilmoppet]

I have a dumb correction for Jon: at 43:57 you said the Parthenon was not a fort, and "that's not what it's for." It was a fort! ...it just wasn't supposed to be. (I'm referring to the Ottomans using it as a defensive point on the acropolis and a magazine to store their gunpowder during the Morean War. That gunpowder, by the way, is the reason the Parthenon is currently a ruin.) In other words: If not fort, why fort-shaped?

[@jamespeake4883]

We really don't give the Ottomans half as much shit as we should over their colonialism.

[@AgentWest]

"If not fort, why fort-shaped" Well said! lol

[@AaronCorr]

​@@jamespeake4883Eurocentric worldview baby. The middle ages were pretty cool in China and Eastern Romen Empire too but we don't count that

[@jameswilley6722]

43:35 "The Parthenon was not a military encampment" I dunno Jon, seems like a fine place to store gunpowder to me.

[@librarianseth5572]

Day 1197 of requesting Zoo Tycoon. When I heard mammoths being promised, I knew this had to be good. After all, mammoths are awesome, so anything involving mammoths had to be good

[@adamachy7719]

We love you Zoo tycoon guy

[@HamisGood12]

You have arrived, welcome, and we hope that one day soon Jon will fulfill your request.

[@madmanwithaplan1826]

imagine for a moment that jon is waiting for you to give up asking. he's just curious how long you will keep going. the video could even be done and ready. you'd never know until the day you gave up.... anyway love what you do mmmwa

[@Dead-EyeJuncan]

One of the DLCs for Zoo Tycoon has got mammoths in it.

[@librarianseth5572]

@@adamachy7719 Well that topped off my self esteem for the next week

[@toastytacos702]

really liked this one, hope to see of a stream of it in the future.

[@HamisGood12]

I am here watching the video and waiting for the Zoo Tycoon guy. :)

[@snowcraft-d3d]

This video convinced me to buy this game. I don't even like clicker games. But this is good.

[@potvinbo]

"breeding is great" -Jon *giggity*

[@methos424]

I’m just here in support of the guy on year 3 of requesting Zoo Tycoon

[@Machabees]

Shocked that I didn't see the best quote of the video down here in the comments. "Move towards breeding, breeding is great!"

[@bobdiedt00]

“Everyone agrees cannibals are dicks”. You are what you eat 👀👀

[@ThePirateEmpressJessicaVT]

I watched all of 2 minutes of the video before I had to go out my way and buy it, thank you for this wonderful gift. Unfortunately I am yet to sleep as I must keep progressing. The ITCH Cookie Clicker gave me has been scratched, but now I need IT ALL

[@-TriP-]

"Why is there an uprising?" as he starves his people to death

[@OddlySpecificGaming]

The last woolly mammoth only died 1700 BC so not that far away

[@soulsearcher9620]

Jon said "Breeding is great" Cursed.

[@brianholmes1812]

I beg to differ on the acropolis rant. If I remember my mycenean studies, the Athenian Acropolis was built on a bronze age citadel, mich like the one we find at mycene, with athens being one of the very few bronze age settlements to remain operational through to the classical period

[@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control]

I feel like I'm being mocked by the mere existence of games like this lol.

[@hugmonger]

Its weirdly almost a 4X clicker game which no lie... like if this had gone so far as to be an actual 4X Clicker with Multiplayer I'd have probably bought it right away.

[@coolkitten4287]

Love the free history lessons

[@fuzzyfuzzyfungus]

Given the...noted commitment to social dynamism...of the lotus-eaters lotuses seem like a weird meta-currency. Maybe it's the forgetting your past aspect that they are aiming for?

[@ZaberFangAT]

Yeah... the GIANT pile of incoming population without the infrastructure to support them just might have caused some issues

[@charlesfranks1902]

Oh, dear, a clicker game. And ... clicking too much in a clicker game? Are the devs ok?

[@itz_jur0330]

29:31 they are on a smoke break together😍

[@AsterInDis]

Oh hoh I love clickers, this looks right up my alley.

[@Cailus3542]

This was surprisingly entertaining. Huh.

[@mr.jglokta191]

"Breeding is great"

[@BjrnFriedrichsen]

this has more endgame content then starfield...

[@SuperRedNovaDragon]

This would be perfect as a mobile game. With a zooming ability like fallout shelter

[@fallouthirteen]

Y'know, when he says the reason clickers don't really "click" for him I'm just thinking that if that's all they are, I agree. Thing is I really like incremental games but specifically the ones that add new mechanics and layers and different thresholds. That's what "does" the genre for me. Granted not all incremental games are clickers, but most clickers are incremental games.

[@FonVegen]

I remember playing the demo of this and ending in a glorious blaze of unending fires and plagues. Seems like the non-demo version has some good polish to it already just from the first look.

[@TheLazyFinn]

This is a VERY strong looking EA game

[@-Slinger-]

"This is all going to be fine!" the game®.

[@bow1ma]

Your projecting power by having a necropolis 😉

[@quietshadowmusic]

Woo woo

[@DaWombatGaming]

I love this one, but I 100%'d the available content far too quickly for the price point. Needs twice the content to be worth it. Luckily, there are clear intentions to add more prestige levels with different scenarios later in the early access development

[@zeridoz4464]

Cells to singularity

[@ObshloLongju]

Best to watch while pooping.

[@Scott_Forsell]

4700 views. 79k likes. Someone's been clicking the like button.

[@brianbunton]

As much as I'd love to see more of this, it is uniquely a bad game type for livestreaming.

[@Haarba1]

Cookie Clicker is one of the best games! A bit sad this genre did not spread like damn match3.

[@MTGeomancer]

Oh, it has, it's just the format fits the money sucking F2P model like a glove so all you end up getting is 1000 of those mobile trash games instead of things like this.

[@Hinaguy749]

Jon I think the Turks would disagree with you on the Parthenon being a military fort!

[@enz025]

I feel like watching this while playing cookie clicker on the 2nd screen makes me a part of the problem...

[@okmujnyhb]

Reminds me a lot of Kittens Game

[@GoodBoyGoneDad]

This game looks like fun and i clicked on the link to go check it out on steam, but $16 on sale seems awfully steep. I thought it would be less than $10.

[@shadowqueen1701]

Stuttering cows? Mmmmm mmmoo

[@thatoneguy9843]

livestream. Livestream. LiveStream. LIVESTRTEAM!

[@robertlawrence1746]

Livestream candidate?

[@robertverri9357]

cool. And yes cannibals are bad.

[@elgato1721]

This is good, but I wouldn't call it a clicker. I'd say "you cannot lose" is a defining characteristic of a clicker, and this ain't it.

[@feldamar2]

Is there ever going to be a worst survivor run of Fallout 4? I've watched the entire Worst Courier run at least 3 times.

[@jansenart0]

Civ V bestciv

[@kevinbrown6286]

Run some total war 👀

[@legion999]

Play Universal Paperclips then

[@manicpixiedckgirl]

livestream pleasssseeee

[@FrenchCanadianGuy]

How can you NOT click food so much? Still farming rage comments?

[@richknudsen5781]

Thanks for playing games that no sane person would touch with a ten foot mouse.

[@thebard7983]

It's. Late evening in the UK where u stay I think we can lose the intro

[@Krishnath.Dragon]

Sadly, not everyone who follows Jon live in the same place as you do. The world is round, and filled with different timezones, so...

[@peterclarke7240]

I think we keep the intro. What do you make of THEM apples?!?! 🤣

[@brokenglass9814]

He uploads at 10 every day

[@valliantsteed]

What a boring game - and way too expensive for what it is.