MicroMoment: Canning Lids #2

New information on Pur jars and lids, how to know if a Weck jar is sealed and how do you open them, and a very cool canning lid hack--all found in this video!
Note: Tattler is contacting Facebook canning groups and spreading the word not to use their gaskets on metal lids because it might produce a false seal. Here is my opinion: There is no message that they have tested this use and found it to be unsafe. It is a liability issue for them. I get that. I have canned about 30 quarts of various foods using this method and plan to leave them in our food storage for a year. We will see what the actual data say, and I will report it at that time.
12/20/2023 Update--it has been over 2 years since I used this hack on 30 pints of veggies and the remaining jars are still sealed perfectly.
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[@sandysimpson9]

This is great news, everyone has been saving these lids and now we have a new way to do them. Awesome! Thanks

[@RoseRedHomestead]

Tattler is contacting Facebook canning groups and spreading the word not to use their gaskets on metal lids because it might produce a false seal. Here is my opinion: There is no message that they have tested this use and found it to be unsafe. It is a liability issue for them. I get that. I have canned about 30 quarts of various foods using this method and plan to leave them in our food storage for a year. We will see what the actual data say, and I will report it at that time.

[@foxymineralmakep]

@@RoseRedHomestead I just don't see a problem with this wonderful hack! the vacuums is keeping the lid down tight and the cushion form the gaskets are plugging the edge so what is the problem? I swear the world has gone mad. I LOVE YOUR SHOW !! You are PRECIOUS!!!! and You are a wealth of valuable knowledge. I wish you had a mailing list so that we can all stay in contact with you should something happen to this site. Much love!!

[@gladtidings4all]

Can you tell me where you found the rattler rubber gasket at .33 cents each at. Googled can’t find it thanks

[@sophiabultena6781]

​@@RoseRedHomesteadany update on your findings?

[@peggykush6972]

Also. When opening the lid, put a table knife across top of lid, and then use the can opener, that makes contact with the knife instead of the top of the lid that will prevent damage to the top of the lid.

[@RoseRedHomestead]

Perfect tip! Thank you.

[@RaechelleJ]

Yes ty also

[@nanakat2005]

Thanks for the above tip! I'll try it the very next time I open a jar.

[@krysstevecrimi1482]

Brilliant!

[@IMOO1896]

This is what I do, and because of that the flats are no longer usable for sealing. I continue to use them for short term storage of refrigerator items.

[@duotone69]

Pam I’m loving these micro moments segments. Much thanks to the two smart ladies for the canning lid hack. Every time I thought about discarding my used lids I could hear my father’s voice saying “You might need that one day.” My father is long gone but the older I get the wiser he becomes.

[@avelsgard78]

And...I must add thank yous to Sandy and Lori! What a wonderful community you have here!

[@RoseRedHomestead]

Yes they are!

[@carolroth2379]

Pam and Jim thank you so very much for all you do in getting this information to us. Today’s info is a total game changer. What I would recommend to new users of the Tattler rubber ring is to use a magic marker and just put a line on each ring as they use it to keep track of how many times it has been used in canning. I understand that they are supposed to be good for up to 10 times each. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[@RoseRedHomestead]

Great idea! Thanks.

[@dorothyyoung8231]

Great tip and great information about the expected life of the Tattler gaskets!

[@noracharles80]

I do the same thing. One line per use.

[@MilcaR.ForgivenInChrist]

Thank you. Great idea!

[@dagneytaggart7707]

That gasket hack is deserving of the word hack. Wow! 😃

[@tjeanvlogs9894]

For those having difficulty holding the gasket tab, try vice grips with a little tape over the ribs is deep. This is a hack many of us with spinal cord injury ties to cope with uncooperative hands. An oil filter wrench to hold jars helps too.

[@longarmsupplies]

You're efforts to explain the processes are going to make so many more people understand why they are advised to do things...thanks for all you post!

[@sheilam4964]

I think you covered the science behind the vacuum seal very well. Brings to mind my 8th grade science class with the Bunsen burner, the milk jar (the one milk used to come in) and the boiled egg, at each of our stations. Every time someone talks about a vacuum and canning, I see that experiment all over again. I never get tired of it. I was so much fun.

[@cfitzgerald.174]

What a wonderful community that has developed courtesy of that woman with the gasket. I am so blessed to have all this knowledge at my fingertips thanks to you and all your subscribers it's wonderful thank you

[@k.p.1139]

Ms Pam, you keep this up and we might get as smart and wise as the master ! Good video!!

[@tallcedars2310]

I had missed this video but thanks to your recent video of Tattlers response, I am here. In tough times we all do what works and this experiment has shown that the system you have shown works, plain and simple. It is like the rubber seals I use on glass lids that works very well for me. Thank you for showing us a simple hack that will get us by.

[@soniahenney9827]

Wow, That's incredible. Can't believe we all didn't think of that before. Thank you and thanks to Sandy and Lori!

[@avelsgard78]

Oh, how I wish you were my neighbor! Another excellent offering!! Love you guys...you are lifesavers for certain. God Bless you and please be safe and healthy!

[@pamt3915]

Excellent hack using a gasket with the metal lids! Lid shortage problem solved!!!

[@terrym5786]

I agree. I would like to hear updates on 3, 6, 9 months and a year as to whether or not these kids remained sealed.

[@cbass2755]

Hi Pam! I pressure canned from 7am to 7:30pm yesterday..Sunday. I had one fail!! Yay me!! I think I’ve got it. Slow rise, slow cool, and allow cool dow with the lid cocked for 15mins before I remove any jars. So far, so good! I’m getting better..😃 Oh…I canned your Beef Stroganoff, and Chicken chunks and your Beef Stew….

[@RoseRedHomestead]

Fantastic! I hope you are now going to celebrate!

[@donnas2375]

I've recently heard about the slow rising of temperature, and that makes total sense! Before, I just knew about the slow cool down.

[@noracharles80]

Thank you Pam for checking and testing out this great idea. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. Another great learning video! Thanks Sandy and Laurie for thinking outside the box. What an amazing group of women! (I just bought 10 dozen Tattler rings. I love Tattler lids, but never throw away my old metal lids. I am glad I haven’t ) Who knows what the future will bring... Be prepared.

[@kwhite7344]

Fantastic information!!! I had wondered if you could do that and you answered my question! I purchased lids and gaskets from Harvest Guard just in case I couldn't get more Ball lids. I have tried them and they worked, but I do prefer the Ball lids. I also save my Ball flat lids because I use canning jars for storing dehydrated items and other things and use my old flats. This is definitely something I will try!! Again, great information. Thanks so much!!!

[@MaryWehmeier]

I’ve been looking at building wood crates the same size as the boxes to safely store our jars on a shelves as the boxes wear out.

[@MeandHim84]

Pam, Love all you do on your channel. Your thoroughness in explaining canning processes is topnotch. I thank you for my safety in learning all I can from you. I really treasure your knowledge.

[@RoseRedHomestead]

You are so welcome

[@Stephenrsm7600]

Miss Pam, I have learned so many new things today from watching your Micro Moment!!!! Thank you SO much for experimenting and for being a fantastic resource to us!!! I asked, but did not hear back. On a recent video, you had a new Vacuum Sealer. I asked which one you ended up buying????

[@RoseRedHomestead]

Oh! Sorry. e bought a Weston and are doing a video on it this week that we will release in a few days.

[@gigidtx]

🌼 Thanks for the great information. I'm a beginner so every bit of knowledge you share empowers me.

[@RoseRedHomestead]

You are so welcome!

[@nanakat2005]

BTW, THANK YOU for sharing this information! I, too, have been saving my used metal lids and now have new hope for them with these gaskets!

[@juliemilliron849]

Wow I am so glad that Sandy and Lori shared. I am also so thankful that you did your test and shared, this is going to resolve my lid problem. Thank you again.

[@RoseRedHomestead]

You are so welcome!

[@homeismyvacation]

what a wonderful hack to share with everyone!! Thank you for trying it and passing this along.

[@sheilam4964]

Well, if that isn't the golden gem of the day. Thanks to Sandi & Lori for their ingenious insight and share. And thanks to you, Pam for passing their share on to the world. Wow. Guys, can you imagine the savings? 👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@chelinfusco6403]

Oh Wow! Hahaha, that is amazing! I can reuse lids that way and lids are difficult to find. Thank you to everyone involved. PS: Shared it on Facebook. I don't know if I'm allowed to share on Pinterest, so I will not share there, but I just feel I need to share this with everyone I know. Thank you again.

[@tribalwoman138]

What a great tip Rose. Thank you so much. ❤

[@rany2097]

This is great! So glad that you are experimenting with the tattler gasket. May have less syphoning. You are the best at explaining and helping. Thanks to the two ladies sharing their 'hack'!

[@RoseRedHomestead]

Thank you!

[@TheArtemisoflight]

Thank you for testing all of these ideas and theories! I appreciate how you are trying to help us and keep us safe! Love from Colorado Springs.

[@scholargrrl]

Thanks for the excellent info!! The less waste the better and being able to reuse the original lids - wow!!!

[@janwormuth9739]

God bless you. I so look forward to your videos and to your gentle spirit 💓

[@chase7139]

I have had many teachers and have never met one with the teaching ability you have, everything you say I absorb and it makes me so happy to feel that I'm not dumb I just didnt have the right teachers as an ADHD student. You explain in great detail and provide a visual that I appreciate.

[@debraczahor6279]

Thank you for trying this. I had thought about giving it a try a few weeks ago. The way in which you explain and give information is greatly appreciated! Thank You!

[@RoseRedHomestead]

You are so welcome!

[@cbass2755]

I’ve bought Purr jars and lids from our local ACE Hardware, but didn’t trust them for some reason. I used them for vacuum sealing sugar, salt etc… But now I’ll try for pressure canning. Thank you Pam! Connie

[@kamikazitsunami]

Good luck. I had 1/3 to 1/2 of my Pur jars that did not seal and prior to that I've only had two of the mason jars not seal out of hundreds of jars.

[@karinecarde1254]

Yes, the food did jump 😊 Thank you for explaining everything so thoroughly friend!

[@blessedtrimability9626]

This makes so much sense. I have purchased some Weck jars after seeing you use them and I am excited to try them. Thanks again for your Science. 💖

[@RoseRedHomestead]

You are so welcome!

[@charmainescarborough5646]

Thank you for the tips on how to get the most out of your canning lids especially with the shortages. Great idea😃

[@simplesojourner]

Thank you for testing and sharing this information! You’ve no idea how this will help with my canning budget!

[@joinmeinthedirt5186]

The best hack I have heard of. , so amazing and cost affective.

[@ladysparkle1576]

Thanks for all this important information, Yes I did see the food jump .Have a blessed evening, stay safe

[@atlantapage1153]

This video is spot on and I love your scientific way of showing and explaining this. It is refreshing to see real science in action. I just bought Tattler and can't wait to use them but have had issues with the plastic gasket combo in waterbath. They will seal then come unsealed or not seal at all. My rate of succeses is not great. It may be my error I don't know but until I get it figured out, this is a great option to get my food processed before it spoils. Recanning is expensive and painful. Thank you and keep up the good work!

[@mariaesparza2589]

Thanks!! That’s a great money saving idea!! 🌷🌷

[@krysstevecrimi1482]

Brilliant! What a wonderful presentation with truly innovative information. Thank you!

[@offthewalla4717]

awesome information!! I've been saving mine too to use later for whatever non sealing food storage. Now I can experiment and see if it works for me too.

[@terri1nd]

LOVE the hack! I've been wondering about whether that was possible or not. I have Tattler lids, but miss the ping of the metal lids, so it seems I can have both. LOVE LOVE that I came across this video. Thank you.

[@mermer58]

Thanks you for all these experiments! Very helpful info to know!

[@tree9top]

I love listening to you xx From the UK xxx

[@lilliegibson5561]

1st, thank you for all your testing so that we that can't don't have to guess. My mother changed for years but never taught me. Now at 67 I'm learning how and am so grateful for all your knowledge that you so graciously share. Anyu, my husband recently visited his last place of employment that stamp out metal parts for various companies. They are currently running behind on production due to metal being hard to get. Most all their metal orders are months out for delivery so the canning companies are probably in the same hole. I don't think that will change anytime soon. I have purchased the Harvest Guard lids and gaskets. My second purchase took a few months to receive because another youtuber posted a review about them. I did can a few items about six months ago with them and they are still sealed. I think some people's fails with them is in putting the lids on incorrectly. Keep going and smile more especially when you spots bot spores floating by, lol.

[@RoseRedHomestead]

LOL! Thanks for this information.

[@advocarelife]

I wanted to add to the info of the Weck seal of the gasket. It is said that the “tongue” that you pulled to open the seal, this tab will hang down when it has a proper seal also. I use Weck, and you will see a definite difference in this tab/tongue when there is a proper seal on the jar and not.

[@lanaebarb1984]

Thank you so much for bringing this hack to our attention! I shall order some gaskets at once!

[@Wendybil1]

Great hack! I love Tattler lids, I learned to use them and I very seldom have one not seal. I ordered a bunch of Lehman's metal lids this year (the gasket part is blue). Out of 15 jars yesterday, 6 didn't seal. Very disappointed, but now I know I can just re-use them with a Tattler gasket. Thanks to the ladies that suggested this!

[@lindapearson2376]

Absolutely a wonderful idea! Thank you so much! Love your videos!

[@SeeTheWholeTruth]

Excellent information, thank you!

[@Tinkerbell31326]

What a brilliant hack. i am going to buy more tattler gaskets. I save my lids too. I usually use them for vacuum sealing.

[@Linda-kq8ef]

Now I know to use the rubber tattler gaskets on used jar lids. I know a lady that marks her gaskets with a permanent marker, just a little line. That way it tells her how many times she has used it. Thank You once again for your knowledge, it’s very helpful. Blessings !!! ✝️💟

[@peterhallsworth8573]

That is such a great idea about marking the gaskets!

[@bonniefroment1800]

Thank you for the great information & tip with gaskets. I won't be throwing out my flats anymore 😊

[@CinemaSasquatch]

I just saw your video recorded from your office and just had to come back and watch this video. I do believe that every video of yours I have watched, you inform us to make our own decisions. I'm going to try this hack myself on an inexpensive item in my new Instant Pot Max. That way, I will only be committed to 4 pints. This is such a game changer for me as a new canner.

[@sonipitts]

That hack is amazing! Finally a use for all those flats!

[@lynntomk]

Gasket and old lids, GENIUS!

[@anneanne788]

Hi Pam! What a great video and amazing hack, will certainly try this next time! Thank you so much for sharing!!!!!

[@RoseRedHomestead]

You are so welcome!

[@DeeDeeDIY]

Thank you for the update. So kind of you!

[@sherylh4780]

What smart ladies. You included. Thanks for the videos.

[@vikkisoderquist6013]

Always good to learn something new! Thank you! 💜😎

[@louisesiberry6289]

That is an invaluable tip with the gaskets.

[@heidiw8406]

Thank you. I just used my Harvest Guard lids for the first time today.

[@OldSchoolPrepper]

i love love love the hack....I've also been saving lids (for the first time in my life) and I do have a bunch of Tattler gaskets!. and in the USA it's pronounced "Kur" ... someone from across the pond would probably say "Care" ...they say Kerr is pronounced like Kerry without the Y...but that is in Scotland/ GB/ Whales etc.

[@kristiebaker7125]

WOHOO What a great idea. Love the idea to be able to reuse the metal lids. Kris in Orlando

[@dEEmARIE-]

Thank you Sandy and Lori

[@tarakincade501]

Awesome tip, thank you. Maybe as a back burner video idea, I'd love to learn more about what the sealing compound is in the flat lids and how it works. I thought of it as sort of a heat activated glue and now I'm realizing I was making an assumption. I don't really understand why it only lasts one use, I just trust the resources that say so. Would love to learn the why.

[@sharonsalyer4912]

Thank you for your answers and the gasket hack. Great idea!

[@RoseRedHomestead]

You are so welcome!

[@mynameistwohawks]

Omg the hack is awesome! Thank you for sharing!

[@nancyst.john-smith3891]

How cool is that! I am sorry that Tattler and others are giving you a hard time about trying the hack that Sandy and Laurie asked you to try! Of course people need to use common sense and Tattler doesn’t think we are capable. I imagine a company which has seen the dumb things people do when canning doesn’t want any liability. Use this common sense, logical hack at your own risk.

[@cbwhitedove]

Thank you all ladies so much I'm fixing to order me some tattler gaskets!!😊 cuz I just have a hard time throwing those lids away...now Iknow Ican reuse them!!!😉👍

[@RoseRedHomestead]

You are so welcome!

[@thymenabottle2515]

Absolutely, an exciting hack!

[@rebeccawhite3210]

You are correct about Ace Hardware.. my experience with Pur rings/lids wasn't quite the same. I used them to can tomatoes, had 1 quart and 6 pints. I didn't know about your wonderful spoon trick to check sealing and the flats I had didn't have the bubble like the ball lids do. All my jars appeared to have sealed but one (it leaked). Two days after the initial 24 hours, I checked them again and 3 of the pints had black mold starting to form. I'm left with one quart and 2 pints of tomatoes. When I opened the ruined jars, the rubber lining had place that were bare metal, I don't know if it happened during the cooking process or what, but it's an alternative that I will still use, but will double check my flats very carefully. The jars that are left appear to be fine. One thing that made it difficult was that the rings on the Pur flats that are normally red were the same color as the center of the lids. I'm glad to hear you say they are good, I wanted to use all of them I bought on sale. The rings work fine.

[@nestpeeper]

Pur changed their compound after many issues with the white. The newer redish color is much better than the original.

[@loritanner4478]

I tried the pur lids. I found them to be thinner metal than Kerr or ball lids. And I always heat up my jar lids. I know they say not to anymore. But I have been canning for 43 years now. And I hardly ever have a failure. So I heated up the pur lids. All sealed great. But I did find I can tighten the rings on them as much as ball and Kerr can take, as they are heavier metal than the pur lids. I did have one of the pur lids buckle in 2 places. I'm using wide mouth pur lids. But even though it buckled. It still sealed. But I opened it and used it up. Didn't totally trust that one. But will use them as I haven't been able to find any wide mouths till I found these pur lids.

[@sandersantiago6303]

Hi Im Sandy from Facebook Thank you RoseRed Homestead for doing this video I knew you where the right person to explain this. You and your husband inspired me with each of your videos Thank you

[@RoseRedHomestead]

Yay Sandy--this was such a great suggestion you sent us. I hope you are pleased with all the responses that are telling you and Lorrie thank you!

[@sandersantiago6303]

Wow how great!!! Thank you for showing and educating us all. Do you think we can reuse are store bought pickel and spaghetti jars. ( using rhe ids they come with) in wb using this method ?

[@TheRoadprincess]

Thank you! As someone that just couldn’t throw out my used lids, this is great information!

[@RoseRedHomestead]

You are so welcome!

[@normahidalgo3068]

I have tattler lids. I had thought of trying to use old lids with the tattler rubber gaskets. Thanks for doing it. Now I do not have to experiment.

[@bethrichardson5998]

Hi Pam. Yes that food and water jumped.. oh my gosh this was a great video and so interesting.. thank you much.. using the gaskets, whoa.. wow.. 👍👍👍🦋🦋🌹

[@RoseRedHomestead]

You are so welcome

[@BAM2613]

Thank you, great video.

[@PJJIN]

What a fantastic hack!! This will save us canners so much money over the life of the rings! It will also relieve a lot of stress over lid shortages. My sincere appreciation for you Pam, & the other two ladies as well. Penny

[@RoseRedHomestead]

You are so welcome!

[@diannatighe-bayers1792]

Wow a game changer thanks for all the information

[@chickenstead6586]

All I can say is, you are absolutely amazing!!!!! Thank you

[@RoseRedHomestead]

Wow, thank you!

[@Mindy56743]

I ordered a couple hundred harvest guard lids and another 2 hundred gaskets! When the order comes in I should be in great shape for next year canning! Thank you for sharing the hack!

[@RoseRedHomestead]

Sounds great!

[@Mindy56743]

@@RoseRedHomestead the only problem is they are back ordered and it will be weeks before I get them in. I have already waited for more than a month and they are telling me another 2 weeks

[@corysmama1]

Thank you, I have learned so much from you.

[@Nancilynn]

Hi! I’m a canner from Texas and watch your channel. I wanted to share my hack for opening canning jars to keep lids almost pristine! I lay a butter knife across the top of jar, the place can opener on life instead of the flat. I was amazed! Also when reusing with vacuum sealer I dip in very hot water, then seal. It seals nearly every time. Nancilynn in Austin.

[@RoseRedHomestead]

Great tips! Thank you so much.

[@theheritagehousesc]

Great hack! I don’t know why I didn’t even think of this before!

[@janicemartin1580]

This is a rebel canning hack I have been using for past couple of years. I am not completely confident in Tattlers staying sealed. Between those that don't seal, and the ones that come loose 9 months down the road, they are now only a back up method for me. But using just the seals is invaluable. I have not had any unseal, in using this hack, for several years. 👍

[@bettypierce8050]

Thank you for testing this tip.

[@hollymerchant9550]

Thank-you for more instruction and information!. I will look init these tattlers, etc.

[@RoseRedHomestead]

Glad it was helpful!

[@esthercooper9575]

Thank you for your info.

[@msherry5]

That's a great tip! Thank you everybody!

[@sallystevens2947]

YAY!!! that is so cool! Reduce, Reuse, Recycle ♻

[@tagladyify]

Excellent info thanks so much!

[@BubbleTeaKristin]

Great insightful video! Thank You! 👏🏼☺️🥰

[@sherryh9117]

This was fantastic! Thank you.

[@RoseRedHomestead]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@candacemiller01]

Awesome hack. Thanks.

[@tracyc380]

Wow I am so happy you showed this. I have so many used balls lids and living in Australia just to purchase 12 wide mouth tattle lids will set me back $65 plus $27 postage for 1 packet. So you guess it, Its way to expensive. The cost is double for 12 jars with lids lol Now you showed me this I will search on ebay to see if I can find some seals thank you so much for the info just maybe I can save my balls jars instead of putting them in the rubbish. :)

[@RoseRedHomestead]

Glad it was helpful!

[@sandrarichardson2713]

You tickle me when you share surprises...your smile kicks up a few kilowatts! :) Thanks for helping us all and being such a solid fount of information. I don't know if you feel comfortable sharing your source of 33 cent tattler gaskets. I've been debating whether to get them or not. Obviously the ones you purchased are a good buy. Thanks. Jesus bless.

[@RoseRedHomestead]

😊 thank you. I got them on the Tattler web site, but they have taken them down.

[@tughill1172]

This is great. Lid manufacturer have been selling some pretty crappie lids lately. They have very little rubber sealant on them and only claim to be good for 18 months. I have Tatyler and Harvest Guard lids, which I've never had a fail yet, but I do something other don't. When I put any lid on the jar, including Tattler, I soak in hot water, put on jars and tighten and loosen 3 times, then finger tight metal lids, Tattles same thing, but tighten, tight, then back off about an 1/8 of a turn. Have not had one fail since I started doing this.