Middle-Earth Series: War of the Elves and Sauron

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

What character do you want to see in the Amazon Middle-Earth adaptations, and why? Make sure to leave a like and some feedback if you enjoyed the video! I hope to buy a new microphone soon, to ensure even greater sound quality.

[@ub2769]

I wish to see the Dwarves of Khazad-Dûm cleaving some goblin scum!

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

Same! Hope to see those Dwarves in full Mithril mail!

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

@CaptainDaz I honestly can't wait to see the Island of Elenna! I hope they are given the same armor as in the War of the Last Alliance intro in LOTR! Thanks for your feedback as always Daz!

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

@Dark Lord Sauron I also want to see him as Annatar! I hope they pick someone that can play the treacherous Sauron!

[@darklordsauron398]

@@LoreOfTheRingsYT I want black Sauron actor even if this is not fair

[@andrewbatist6355]

Sauron in this first half of the second age was an absolute Badass ! he was walking running fighting outside mordor. there is a passage in the silmarillion that says : " and in those days many elves were killed by Sauron and his servants" the guy was agressive like a Sith Lord. killing people like Anakin killing the separatists. you add this to the fact that in the war of last alliance took Gil Galad with his invincible spear and Elendil 2m tall numenorian gentleman with his magical sword to get a chance of taking him down. oh and before falling Sauron kills them both by the way. add that to his adressed long and tough fight with freaking Huan in the first age. this guy is way stronger than people give him credit for. best villain in literature.

[@tomassalinas3331]

Best villain was Morgoth. It took the Vala themselves to bring him down.

[@joshuapatrick682]

I don’t think the best villain, I say that as a Tolkien Fanatic but as far as villains go he’s a bit two one dimensional to be the best. That’s not a sleight against his creator, who was trying to make a myth, and therefore needed archetypes.

[@joshuapatrick682]

@@tomassalinas3331 I think you’re confusing best with strongest.

[@tomassalinas3331]

@@joshuapatrick682 no he was both the best and strongest, in my opinion. Sauron was his lackey. Morgoth had several maia under him including Gothmog who was equally powerful.

[@Morgothslackey]

My favorite was the Witch King of Angmar. Especially the movie version. Sauron was badass also though along with Melkor.

[@abyssprimus]

I hope the series won't end up as Game of Thrones did. Nevertheless, cool video.

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

Couldn't agree more. I am pretty certain it will end up like Game of Thrones though, because they want to make money. After spending that much money on the rights alone, there's no doubt that there will be some lore breakage. I just hope they don't break too much of Tolkien's world.

[@eliashaller4255]

It's my believe that they'll have at least somewhat to adhere to the story given by Tolkien - including the end. With Rome they did have a quite acceptable and conclusive ending (it was planned as a 5 series show, but was cut short to 2 series due to the start of Game of Thrones) there they also had the main story line given... by history as an original story-line. I think and sincerely hope, that will be the case here just the same!

[@rubensoeteman]

At least the source material is complete (ish)

[@Remus-z6y]

I have hope, based on how Amazon treated one of my favorite shows, The Expanse. It’s quality actually improved when it left SyFy to Amazon.

[@shanek9803]

I never watch it.i voide it.i heard crazy sex sense in it

[@andrewbatist6355]

Finally an entire video about this specific war. Its my favourite moment in the whole history of arda

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

I will recreate this video at some point and make it even better!

[@andrewbatist6355]

@@LoreOfTheRingsYT great job. i appreciate it. it would also be cool to explore the details of how Sauron prepared his next assault before Ar-pharazon arrives. although i dont know if that is considered this same war.

[@winrobee]

Great War of the Elves and Sauron coverage! Keep up the good work. Tolkien created a Middle-Earth where every age was preceded by one better and grander. With improving cinematography, hopefully the Second Age coverage will superceed even the LotR movies in some ways, to be in turn superseded by a Silmarillion spinoff.

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

Thanks for your positive feedback man, I really appreciate it. I very much agree with you, and it seems you have some real knowledge about Tolkiens legendarium! I think they can make something spectacular, but I hope they avoid elf sex, massive-lore breakage, and other stuff!

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

@Patrick Höing xD Yeah. Most likely :P

[@ladygrey7425]

@Patrick Höing That is my greatest fear. These idiots thought that Game of Thrones was primarily about tits and dragons, and ignore the underlying themes behind it- the corrupting nature of power, the terrible cost of war to soldiers and peasants alike, the struggle of love versus duty, humans turning on each other after great threats pass, and the hard choices of leadership.

[@matthewhill2061]

Thank you for the videos, I really enjoy them, especially your use of maps and animations, which make things easier to follow. I understand there is a bit more relevance to be doing Second Age material because of the upcoming series-and there’s still more of this rich age to explore I’m sure...but I’d also love to see you cover the First Age eventually (enormous and intricate as it is).. ‘The Battle of Unnumbered Tears’ would be awesome to see.

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

I am planning to cover such stuff in the future :)

[@warden4050]

Love this video I all ways wanted to know more about Sauron and the elves. I can't wait for the tv show I want to see what Aragorn did such as helping Rohan, Gondor also going to the East.

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

The show will no longer focus on young Aragorn, so I doubt we will see his actions actually. However it opens up for a lot more interesting happenings! Thanks for the great feedback as always!

[@warden4050]

@@LoreOfTheRingsYT ah ok what is your favourite race??? My is the Dwarves

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

@@warden4050 Probably the Dúnedain. I love their long history and how Aragorn becomes king in the end. I also love the Dwarves for their obsession with mining and forging, and the Elves for their love of the nature!

[@warden4050]

@@LoreOfTheRingsYT Cool but I LOVE the lore and life of Melkor

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

It is a very interesting character, Tolkien's answer to Satan. Definitely an abundant character.

[@darklordsauron398]

Damn,in third age Sauron is so lazy and stay always on his tower only do nothing only give orders.In second age he is more working ⚒

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

Yes, but I understand him though. Why not let his troops do the dirty work? After all Sauron was not a very valiant warrior, his strength was based around fear and order.

[@darklordsauron398]

@@LoreOfTheRingsYT the leader and king of country must work and watch his work and command his people

[@jeffhallam2004]

Dark Lord Sauron there’s debate on whether he was corporeal...

[@TheKarotechia]

Sauron gets less creative and less personal as time passes. The Sauron of the second age still contained twisted wisdoms from the primordial Theme, while third age Sauron is an empty shell consumed by his own thirst for power. He is a big lump of rancid butter, spread over to much bread.

[@MajinOthinus]

@@TheKarotechia Do note that the largest part of his being was missing from him, of course he isn't super creative then. He also doesn't need to be particularly creative to win with how overwhelming his advantage in the third age is (really, had Frodo been a day late, Sauron *would* have won).

[@aronova6228]

Bro.. keep em coming. Love your work man.

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

Glad to hear that :)

[@area609joe2]

I truly enjoyed this video, awesome job. One of them Better Jobs I’ve seen on the 2nd age.

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@shinzilla7552]

Even though Peter Jackson has not joined the tv series, I hope they maintain same cultural design like they were in the movie(buildings, armors kind of stuff).

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

They probably will, because it gives consistency, but they will also take their own paths I think :)

[@kysike666]

Prepare for diversity hires

[@jaycobmaschak8444]

I can only subscribe and like to these your videos, great content my guy the BEST Middle Earth lore I have come across...🔥🔥🔥

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

Glad to hear my friend! Thanks for the positive feedback!

[@nabnas01]

Love your work and I hope your channel grows even more!

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

Lovely to hear that!

[@bennconner1195]

Amazon are casting Harad and Orcs as elves, so it’s probably going to be un-immersive and cringe.

[@uglukthemedicineman5933]

They didn't want to be accused of orcphobia by Grima.

[@captainpeyton6378]

I wanna see where Aragorn and king thengal go to war while we see a little future king Theoden

[@michaelgood6852]

Love this guys narrative

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

Thank you!

[@KaiserAfini]

I think this is a great point for a TV series. It still has a lot of the cooler high fantasy elements of the series. But unlike the War of Wrath, it does not make the special effects budget increase beyond all reason.

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

Exactly!

[@karanparmar4754]

Appreciate your work....

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

Great to hear that!

[@joshuapatrick682]

The second age is the most compelling option because it is the least expanded upon and offers the most opportunity for creativity IMO but I would love to see Narn i hin Hurin on the screen. Who’s gonna play Elrond though?!?

[@jacobkachel7202]

High quality video, really exciting to watch! Have always wanted to know more about the war of the Elves and Sauron, and if there were more rings in the universe than just the one we see in the lord of rings movies. But I cannot remember, do you see Gandalf, Galdriel and Elrond holding the elven rings in the lord of the rings movies? And thus, can you see them using their rings powers?

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

Thanks for the feedback my friend! I will thus answer your question. The Three Elven Rings is used in the movies. Gandalf is seen with Narya. This ring has the effect to inspire others against tyranny, which we basically see Gandalf use in all situations (aiding Rohan and Gondor, very spesifically). We see Elrond use Vilya to preserve Rivendells beauty. And we definitely see Galadriel take usage of her ring Nenya. This ring also take care of Lothlórien, and basically preserves the beauty of the Mallorn trees which I think the movies does not serve justice. Lothlórien was the most beautiful place in Middle-Earth, and without the ring, Lothlórien would fade, as it did after the One Ring was destroyed.

[@Vahe345]

Keep tuning that voice of yours and you will become an elf yourself

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

Lovely to hear that!

[@shanenolan8252]

Hi my friend just rewatching this and im planning your updated version next , still good not as good as your later videos but good as the same

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

Thanks! Yeah in my eyes, this video is far surpassed by my newer videos. And in the future, I will give you even greater stuff Shane. Thanks for watching my older videos, that helps a lot currently. Thanks!

[@shanenolan8252]

@@LoreOfTheRingsYT my pleasure sure sir , channel viewing time is important

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

@@shanenolan8252 For sure :) You know it!

[@shanenolan8252]

@@LoreOfTheRingsYT watching the update now forgot how good it was , well done

[@davidp7178]

"The greatest craftsman ever" would not be surpassed by anyone, if he or she was truly the greatest. (not even Feanor)

[@ashleythibault5434]

I know this video is 1 year old (I'm uber late to the party), BUT if Amazon messes up this series, I will be PISSED.

[@Vahe345]

Great content!

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

Thank you! I would highly suggest to check out my newest content, which has improved drastically :)

[@PopJacare]

Very good bro!💪🏽

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

Thank you!

[@betapavonis1724]

is there a video about Tuor and Idril?

[@hopscotch5874]

Hope they are still making it

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

They are, it's just been slowed down by Covid-19

[@Palad1n20]

Billion dollars just to get some Comicbook type guys "Worst Adaption ever" Critics remarks

[@ladooshka]

Amazon usually comes with good original series. So I hope it won't be a garbage :)

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

I hope so too!

[@adamkeller4489]

I love your videos, but please, when you have text you, leave it on screen longer so I can read it all. I find myself having to rewind a lot.

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

Thank you! I will take the feedback and use it!

[@3zzee]

I haven't watched the video because it may contain spoilers to the series, if it does, please say where it begins and ends

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

It's basically a battle which is very likely to appear in the series. The outcome of the battle is spoiled.

[@ub2769]

Good video

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

Thanks! Highly appreciate it

[@joelalcantara8068]

I hope this prequel to LOTR will give justice to ending than Game of Thrones.

[@HappyFlapps]

I pray that Amazon stays true to Tolkien's histories and doesn't embark on the kind of creative license that Peter Jackson allowed to occur in the TLOR movies. Also, I'm hopeful that Disney's experience with the destruction of the Star Wars franchise by the odious Kathleen Kennedy's hubris will serve as a warning against wrecking the fans' goodwill for their Second Age series.

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

They have to follow Tolkiens books to a certain degree which is very comforting.

[@sethyboy1997]

Filmed in Scotland not New Zealand? Weird

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

New Zealand, the video is a bit old, where did I say that piece of information?

[@dgggbggg5025]

World war 2 ...d day... tolkein knew his history

[@lithpylarry2019]

How did the elves and dwarves develop bad blood between them from these events?

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

The bad events come from a time long gone. Google sack of Doriath. I will not tell the whole story here as it is quite big. Summed up, the Dwarves had two different tribes one from Belegost and one from Nogrod. The Nogrod dwarves did misdeeds and caused trouble. The sindar elves (Thranduils people) remembered these dwarves' deeds. That means Thranduils people had bad relations with the Nogrod dwarves. However, Thorins company is of the line of Durin which is other dwarves. Basically early conflicts kind of ruined the relationship. The Noldor elves were at very good terms with the Dwarves because of their history.

[@lithpylarry2019]

Lore of Middle-Earth ahh ok. I was aware that the elves of Mirkwood and northern dwarves had bad relations and how the opposite is applied with the Noldor and dwarves of Khazad-dum. I always found it confusing however that relations changed between the noldorin and durin after Sauron’s invasion of Eriador. I remember hearing a story of a band of dwarves killing an elven king after a deal or something and the elves retaliating. However I don’t remember which elves and dwarves this confrontation happened between. EDIT: Thank you for information on some sources to research :).

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

@@lithpylarry2019 Then you have the situation figured out!

[@lithpylarry2019]

Lore of Middle-Earth Bahahha thank you, I’ve subbed to this channel as I have only now become aware of your transition from your old channel. It’s 1:30 am and I have school but I can’t stop watching your vids. But I guess I’ll have to see you in the morning ;).

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

@@lithpylarry2019 Sleep well my friend!

[@tomswiftyphilo2504]

I hope it flames out. I'm tired of media companies milking LotR like an udder.

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

Yeah... Shadow of Mordor is a perfect example on how to ruin Tolkiens world!

[@tomswiftyphilo2504]

@@LoreOfTheRingsYT I was spared the trial of encountering that videogame, or indeed any videogame since about 2004. Imagine taking the delicate emotional language of the LotR quest, language that specifically undermines the physical heroics at every turn, and boiling it all down to how well you can aim your weapons.

[@klinsmannhotspur9792]

any news on the tv series?

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

They have started filming again! After Covid

[@klinsmannhotspur9792]

@@LoreOfTheRingsYT the story line starts from the second age or third age?

[@NewWorldFungus]

I have high hopes for this series. However, will live in a time of wokeness. And what an opportunity this investment offers.

[@koheletcalaforexclan6508]

I’ve lost all hope in it since they basically hinted at sex in the series Why? Why does this series need that? Why does LOTR need to be GOT?

[@zocphra]

I love the video but get a better Microphone please

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

Check my newer videos. I got a new microphone :)

[@bmxdoe]

It's sad we won't see any of this from Amazon's series. They're getting politically correct and making up there own lore

[@aristidispas]

I will try to compare Hitler with Sauron.. and correct me in comparing, if im wrong.. i know Tolkien wanted to always seperate himself from simularities with real life and wanted/told his stories were to be taken unique and with no allegories but obviously we know he was inspired by many aspect of greek and roman history and mythology and nordic history and mythology etc, so definitely he was inspired/affected by his living experiemces.. So back to Hitler, i find that as Sauron in war of wrath was servant of morgoth, hitler fought as soldier of Germans in ww1.. Later as Sauron was captured by numenorians and seduced them with his voice and tellings and also helped the elves to forge the rings.. Simularly Hitler in pubs seduced the new-entried faction people of Nazis with his voice-tellings and passion.. He did many politically skirmishes at that time and was at the front of the coflicts almost invaded the parliament and was captured and jailed.. in the jail he "forged" his book "mein kampf".. They thought by jailing him they would avoid him but he came back even more powerful.. simular to when numenorians captured him but he came back stronger when he seduce them..and when they didnt give much attention to the necromancer of dol-kundur..and at the time of the lord of the rings book its like ww2.. A powerful Hitler he fought in wars(ww1) and in the streets with his faction, now stands only with his voice, and his dominions do his say and noone disputes his leadership.. He, as sauron stand all the time in his tower of barad-ur, stands most of the time of WW2 in bavaria near the alpes in "wolves lair" on 3000 ft overseeing everyone and everything thats going on and always planning of war and imperialism over the middle earth of europe..

[@aristidispas]

i would like a comment on that from you lore of middle-earth cause i account you have really good knowledge and view from tolkien cosmos... i know when you look for simularities you will always find some.. i would add that as in lord of the rings they find themselves between the two towers-powerhouses, mordor and isengard.. if we take it microscopic only for europe the were the nazis and the fascists from italy and italy as isegard fell first.. if we take it macroscopic for the whole planet earth the two big powers and major enemies were german-nazis and japan which also has a volcano mount Fuji, and they dropped the ring of destruction there(in japan) by droping the atomic bombs, thus ending the world war... ww2 was fought by the alliance of the "free people" in two fronts either way.. i find hitler more alike saruman with his voice and passion that overtook its people like almost putting magic upon them and as hitler had a suicide mission on him which failed, simularly saruman had one of his own people killing him in the end and betray him.. and japan had a king and commanders that their people blindly followed their commands to even go in suicide missions with their aircrafts on american ships and aircraft carriers, which is one of most feared things see the enemy, that will give their lives willingly or unwillingly for their Masters.. Corsaics from the south are italy, mediterenean dominion, africa and fights that were given there(in the south)... and lastly but not least.. The Easterlings and the people from the east are like Turkey, long gone Ottoman Empire from WW1 which is something between seek its lost old glory but at the same time be a secondary wheel in this war, cause if the big players fall they will fall too easilly.. So there you have it.. hope you are interested in this version, that its not what the lord of the rings is to take step by step.. but i cant believe a man living in this times couldnt get the least affected and inspired.. Damn as i write more things come up.. i cant exclude that Hitler-Germany as Saruman-Isengard, had a mind of wheels, a thing that Tolkien mostly hated for the new world era.. cause Htiler's Gemany was really advanced in technology and craftmanship, in tanks, aircraft, airship etc. and such was mostly their advantage and not in manpower... and every tegnologic invention was used for distraction and dominion.. not a strange thing that most of Germans scientists were later took and assigned by the Americans for their knowledge.. i have to stop cause its like an essay now.. sorry for my english if they are hard to read and follow.. Im only debating here, nothing more, its not my strict point of view about tolkiens Lotr and WW2.. And i never said that the ring was the atomic bomb which Tolkien said NO, but thats the way a fantasy and a real war ended

[@aristidispas]

Isnt it nice that i contradict my self between the 2 comments? I sound like Gollum, but i told you im debating.. The point is the inspiration, which are cross-exist then to create his world.. One character maybe exists in several characters and aspects in Middle earth and if you shuffle things up you find a story.. Game of thrones is full of history.. i mean omg, full of it.. you put knew names and factions, you put a mythology, you put magic and some magical entities and you got your Cosmos.. But tolkien wasnt your average guy.. this guy and his genealogies and his creation of languages, omg he was one of a kind! Since i wrote that much, i wanted to write just one paragraph in the beginning, i will upload it also on reddit

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

Surely such comparisons can be drawn, and as you already mentioned, Tolkien disliked such allegories. However, that doesn't mean they aren't true, he would be incluenced sub-consiously probably! I agree with much of what you say, but comparing everything to modern life, is perhaps a bit too far. But you have some very good points sir!

[@josephwang8589]

You never explained why Sauron went to the elves to craft the rings instead of crafting them himself. Was it material restraints or the work needed multiple people or he needed a legit image source to give the rings out?

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

He needed them to create them to bind them. They would not accept rings from a stranger

[@jeffhallam2004]

Great video, you cut to the chase and tease for future videos...:) I am hoping Amazon kills it and disgraces the horrible GoT.

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

I do too! I don't think GoT was terrible, and it is after all inspired from Tolkien. I did update my Patreon after you reminded me of it and it should be better now: www.patreon.com/LOME I will start advertising it in a larger degree!

[@MultiTurdz]

Hollywood Garbage... great vid, but pausing to read the screen kind of disjointed the story a bit, maybe try to figure out a way to say those things aloud.. idk it kinda looks like you added them post edit, so i understand the format. love the maps too.

[@jonkuntz8816]

Feanor never lived in middle earth get your facts right I do like your series though

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

Beleriand was considered Middle-Earth.

[@scene2much]

This is a bad time to make a very beautiful absolutely evil character the centerpiece of a blockbuster series. Undoubtedly Sauron will be that character. Hello Antichrist! How many transcendent and degenerate copycats will there be?

[@jonkuntz8816]

Elrond was not half elven! What in erus name are you talking about?

[@LoreOfTheRingsYT]

He had the choice to choose between mortal life (men) or elven life.

[@kysike666]

More like woke Lotr from Amazon.. It’s gonna be a pile of garbage..