Midnight Screenings - Beauty and the Beast

[@trtx84]

What Brad describes at the beginning sounds almost like an Uncanny Valley for remakes. It got *so* close that your brain could only think of the original, which this still wasn't. So then your brain rejects it even if it isn't bad, so it just doesn't work.

[@billybarnett9518]

That never happens to me.

[@trtx84]

Have you seen either the Cinderella or Beauty remakes? Or the Psycho remake Brad's referring to? It's not all remakes, it's just ones like these. Similar to how not all CGI hits the uncanny valley but occasionally you get a film that does.

[@billybarnett9518]

I saw the Cinderalla one, it didn't happen to me though, doesn't bother me.

[@flmbyz]

I rejected this movie because of the fact of how lifeless it was, how the singers were so bland, how the musical numbers were so poorly staged, how it hit the story beats, but never understood them, gave us two leads that didn't have a single shred of romantic chemistry between them. Believe me, there's no Uncanny Valley here, it's just a valley of awful.

[@billcasey3492]

Brad, there's a very good reason this movie exists, you see... {Musical Flourish} *They want cash* *They want cash* *So the classics they rehash* *Risk assessment* *Safe investment* *To just remake their old best stints* *Folks will go* *To things they know* *It's a license to print dough* *Recommend it as a rental* *But this will be a huge tentpole* *Saddest part* *They're not wrong* *Watch this make more than Nam Kong* *Old ideas will make a huge box office smash* *Don't try a different take* *Just serve a safe remake* *Cause they want cash* *They want cash* *They want cash!*

[@KEVMAN7987]

Bill Casey *standing ovation*

[@asalways1504]

BRAVO! *whistles*

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

Bill Casey *applause*

[@Mrtfarrugia]

So your saying they want money?

[@wonderlandmafia2]

Bill Casey I wish I could like your comment way more than once. Bravo!!

[@aidincmpbell9073]

Why remake the film if you aren't going to cast Phelan as live action Old Man?

[@shiro5684]

Aidan Campbell HYEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

[@LadyTylerBioRodriguez]

Would have been more fun, especially if the Beast was BatHero.

[@thenightrider2121]

All of Old Man's scenes got wet in the rain and are completely useless now.

[@ToddTheTolerable]

I would pay 10 bucks to see Emma Watson do the Beauty gasp on the big screen.

[@magnos_decimus]

I can second that

[@SealGunman]

MOMMY AND DADDY ARE FIGHTING

[@culwin]

I legit got scared

[@KEVMAN7987]

Brennan DiMarzo There is an undercurrent of danger & violence. It's like the only reason they're not screaming is to avoid scaring the children.

[@numberonehickey]

LOL

[@ThatMissQuin]

Beast would have been so much more powerful with practical effects.

[@Lowfork]

I hate this notion of ''You are too attached to the original, you should see this film as it's on thing'', the thing these movies (specifically the disney live action versions of their animated stuff, but it could be applied to other remakes) don't exist in a vacuum, in fact the only reason they were made it's because of the original film to the point where they copy the way characters look, talk and even song numbers from the cartoon. My point is I feel the film can and should be compared to the original, specially in a case like this where they play on the nostalgia people have to the cartoon to make people go watch it.

[@LadyTylerBioRodriguez]

Yes yes YES! That's not a valid argument, without the original it would exist, and will be forgotten within a few month's because it shares it name with the original, just like the Manchurian Candidate remake.

[@LadyTylerBioRodriguez]

You didn't even mention the poster being a copy of the original poser, same pose. I have never seen a remake that can be so perfectly summed up as "MEMBER THIS? MEMBER? I MEMBER!"

[@MarkyMatey]

I have the original and watch it many times. This film is a hollow cynical cash-grab.

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

FormattedCompatible I'll say that Emma Watsons Belle does not act the same as the animated version, but generally, you are correct.

[@GaiashKetoji]

While I see your point nostalgia bias is a thing. You can compare something to the original without that being the only thing you judge it by.

[@gabe_s_videos]

I never thought about it but yea, the live-action remakes are kind of like the successor to Disney's direct-to-video sequels: it's something that really doesn't need to exist that's built on brand name recognition, and it's highly unlikely that the filmmakers have more of a vision than advertising the DVD of the original version.

[@macejaso]

I heard they made a character gay.... Innovation?

[@billstalker4906]

Oh he was gay in 91 you just didn't notice.............

[@gabe_s_videos]

My ass. They want to be innovative? They really want to change with the times? Make the main character queer. It doesn't even have to be a big deal that they are. Saying certain kind of people exist is one thing, showing that they're human beings like you and me is another.

[@retloclive9118]

I thought Jungle Book was in need of a remake. I didn't think the original was all that great.

[@mastermarkus5307]

I think the original Jungle Book movie suffered from Walt Disney's serious desire to cater to children, so I do appreciate the "live action" movie being a bit more "adult". Not to mention that unlike this film, the story was quite dramatically changed, especially in that Mowgli wasn't just slipping from song to song like in the cartoon.

[@aliciab33]

Good god, let him have his opinion. Stop trying to "gotcha" him and insisting "IT CHANGED A LOT" and then say it was a line or a non-character's backstory. It's basically shot-for-shot, it's marketed as shot-for-shot. I loved Jungle Book because it changed a huge chunk of it for the better (my childhood was never at peace with the original's ending) while keeping it familiar. I hated Cinderella because it changed parts of it for the worse and came off shallow, with someone sitting on the saturation button. I won't even see BatB because the cgi is nightmare fuel. And Watson as Belle seems like a failure in every aspect, but mostly that cgi tho. WHY.

[@gRinchY-op5vr]

Funny, as a child I was not ok with how Jungle Book ended. As an adult I understand it, even if it isn't how Mowglis story ends in the book

[@ChelseatheCreativeFox-pc2xz]

Lighten up; they're both having fun.

[@Rikku147]

I have to agree with Brad. They didn't take enough risks to warrant pointing out the changes, so I can't help but feel this was nothing but another cash cow getting milked by Disney. And yes, I know that's a thing that they do, but I don't think they'd be the company that so many love if they hadn't at least had SOME passion and need for innovation in a lot of their films. I hate this trend. Like I thought the plague of Hollywood reboots were the worst thing and then they outright stopped trying and just did a shot by shot remake with tiny additions to try and claim, "but we modernized it!" It's so blatantly lazy.

[@billybarnett9518]

People want remakes that are faithful to the source material and will be pissed if they change it in any way.

[@disneyerapowerrangers2923]

Billy, but if they change too much then others will complain.

[@billybarnett9518]

disney era power rangers Like I said.

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

I wouldn't go so far as to call it a shot by shot remake(and I enjoyed this version), but the fact that it is a trend at all is a problem. Hollywood is still operating under the old assumption of milking an idea when it seems they would have fewer complaints if they just wait a bit in between films.

[@Kari166]

In terms of adaptations and how/if they're necessary, along with the changes they make, does anyone remember the Cinderella movie with Brandy and Whitney Houston? I was born in 1993 but I remember watching it all the time as a little girl (and I had-- and still do-- have a huge crush on the Prince). How do you guys feel about that one? I think the one that stands out the most to people is the colorblind casting. I love how the casting directors didn't care about race to the point that a black and a white couple can have a Filipino son, and how Cinderella's entire family is mixed. I am also mixed race, my family is full of interracial couples and such so it made me really, really happy to see not only black women being princesses and Fairy Godmothers, but also seeing black women be delicate, feminine, and seeing an Asian man as a love interest. And that's just the racial part of it!

[@MNSportsJunkie101]

This is easily the least necessary remake Disney has done to date.

[@Tuckerscreator]

5:30 "What third dimension did [Gaston] have in the original?" "CHEST HAIR."

[@Fiver565]

You know a example of a good adaptation of Beauty and Beast? 1946 verison by Jean Cocteau its different haunting, and adult. Totally different than the Disney verison. They should have taken more notes from that film and yes I know they looked at it for the 1991 version but i doubt they looked at it for this one. Disney could have made the beast effects practically that would have had me sold! But nope cgi all over the places.

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

Fiver565 The Beast should have been practical but I enjoyed this movie a lot. As for the 1946 version, I'll see it sometime. I'm usually up for different versions of familiar stories, regardless.

[@Fiver565]

I have yet to see the 2017 version but yeah the beast should have been practically made but I guess that requires hurting animals although there's faux fur they could use

[@hannahaugustyniak11]

Fiver565 this movie was actually inspired by that version

[@Fiver565]

Really? I didn't know that

[@TCovenantUnbeliever]

It won't be the worst live action adaptation of an animated classic from the 90s to come out this year. See you in a few weeks for Ghost in the Shell.

[@caseyj5637]

They should've never let Emma Watson have control over Belle's iconic dress. I am bringing the Dress Discourse here. XD

[@29AndreG]

Well, when Cinderella came out, there was a controversy with the waist of the dress and how it looked weird and distracting.

[@Arrowdodger]

She's the one who has to wear it, so I really didn't have a problem with it.

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

Casey J I think the color is the worst thing, and that's part of the iconic nature of the dress.

[@VengefulKBM]

I'm more with Sarah on this one. I thought the remake was charming and the stuff they changed was interesting and added depth to the story. What I *didn't* like was Emma Watson's ultra-autotuned voice. They should have pulled a "My Fair Lady" and brought someone in to dub her songs after the fact. The rest of the musical numbers were really well done, though. (Although I wasn't huge on the fact that this version of the script *specifies* that it all only takes place over a week. In the original, the time frame is more ambiguous, which I think works greatly to the film's advantage.)

[@RenaDeles]

VengefulKBM .....a week??? Yeah, I always assumed she basically spent the winter with him plus a little more time, aka several months. Why compress it here, when that makes it feel so unrealistic they could fall in love in that short amount of time

[@RectPropagation]

I was hoping to hear that they'd done the opposite with the time frame and make it explicit that it did take place over a longer period of time. They might as well have left it ambiguous.

[@chsparkle]

Yeah, that was a slight shame but I guess with both films, the big question is....what's Maurice up to? Since it's established he's not giving up on his daughter and leaving her to her fate, there has to be a reason he hasn't made it to the castle. At least in this film, when Belle returns, Maurice doesn't get over his illness within a couple of hours, he's physically fine but being forced into an asylum.

[@Tenwaystospoildinner]

Hugh Jackman is over 6 feet. He's very tall. He likes to go to conventions dressed as Wolverine and have nerdy folks tell him he's too tall to play Wolverine (who is 5'1).

[@envoguemama996]

Honestly, I'd be way more behind Disney's incessant need to milk the cash cow by doing all these remakes IF they remade films that weren't such universal classics. As much as I hated the original Pete's Dragon, that just made me more interested in seeing the remake. I think it would be better if Disney tried to do remakes like The Black Cauldron, Atlantis, Hercules, hell even The Hunchback of Notre Dame, because they still have the name recognition that would bring people to see them but they could be updated and improved upon. But Disney won't do that cause they're more concerned with adding to the cash hoard of Mickey the dragon than they are with actual innovation.

[@gRinchY-op5vr]

As Cogsworth said, if its not broke don't fix it. If you can't possibly improve on something, why try? The films you mentioned can indeed be done again and improved, films like this and the Lion King were already perfect

[@Metroid4ever]

Ugh, I don't want them to remake TLK in live-action. I think the problem Brad's trying to explain is how recent the Renaissance films still are in everyone's minds. Redoing films like Jungle Book aren't bad ideas because many of the older Disney films haven't aged well. Especially during the Dark Ages (shortly after Walt passed). Still, I'd rather see re-releases of the Renaissance era films rather than wasting money to remake something still considered relatively young and fresh. Not to mention, you can't recapture that same feeling the original gave, that same feeling of awe.

[@gRinchY-op5vr]

Problem is Disney's excuse is "this is Beauty and the Beast/Lion King/Aladdin/Dumbo for the kids of this generation"...except everyone that grew up in the original Disney films now show their kids those films, and they love them like we did back then. My son came back from seeing the live action lion king and asked if he could watch "the good one now".

[@2bitgirly007]

She says in the first 5 minutes that it's "exactly the same" then goes on to say that they "changed a bunch of things"...? Ex-squeeze me? Can't have it both ways, lady.

[@Advent3546]

Damn you guys were WAY kinder than the Walkers were.

[@NeoSaturos123]

Or Lindsay Ellis, Former Nostalgia Chick.

[@Kevin_Johnson97]

For any tropers out there, I honestly think this whole trend of taking animated Disney properties and converting them into live action has its roots in the Animation Age Ghetto. Does anyone feel the same way?

[@FlyingFocs]

Kevin Johnson I think it's that with "hey, how do we make money with little effort?"

[@Kevin_Johnson97]

FlyingFocs Back when it was being reported that Adi Shankar was considering doing an animated Dredd sequel, I saw a lot of people online complaining about the idea of it being a "cartoon". I told one person to give me a single reason why it can't be animated, and they told me something to the effect of, "It can be animated, but why bother? Live action remakes of animated movies are the way of the future! Live action is the ultimate form." They basically put all my fears about this trend into words, and now I'm deeply concerned about the effect this will have on the animation industry.

[@disneyerapowerrangers2923]

Kevin, not really.

[@Splitter4416]

Hugh Jackman actually DID play Gaston in the Broadway musical's Australian run!

[@ginidontthinkso4282]

this movie was directed by the guy who did the last two twilight films, should explain alot.

[@29AndreG]

He also did Chicago and Dreamgirls.

[@GaiashKetoji]

gin idontthinkso Considering the book those two films were based on no director could make that good.

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

gin idontthinkso He didn't do Chicago, but given the filmographies of people on and in the Twilight films, only somebody with industry pull on the level of Spielberg would be able to save those. They were hindered by the source material.

[@Tareltonlives]

That explains so much. The direction was just terrible-when you get such lackluster performances out of a cast like that, and you turn a classic Disney movie mediocre, the director is always to blame.

[@minski76]

Hugh Jackman is 6'2. Surprisingly, he managed to persuasively play a short Wolverine... :)

[@Sean-ne3gx]

Younger, super in shape for the role Patrick Warburton would be amazing as Gaston.

[@joshfreimark3487]

>Luke Evans as Gaston Guys, was Bruce Campbell really that goddamn busy?

[@cheezdoodle96]

Now *that* I'd like to see.

[@danielyoung6778]

Josh Freimark or the rock

[@cpvidscenteral]

The issue is execution. Some of the changes were good, but the biggest problem is that shit like the magic book opened up another plothole (why would she ride the horse back to the village if she can use the book?) The biggest issue was casting, specifically Emma. She was an awful Belle. She went through the motions and completely lacked the genuine sense of wonder that is so characteristic of Belle in the original. Her actions always felt like she was doing them because it happened in the original rather than genuine curiosity, like in the west wing scene.

[@artistwithouttalent]

Speaking as someone who shares Brad's opinion regarding this film, I don't have a problem with Disney remaking their animated movies. I have a problem with them remaking films that are less than forty years old.

[@vfxfan]

it's my dream to see a live-action Black Cauldron as part of a Chronicles of Prydain movie series.

[@Mrtfarrugia]

vfxfan they should do it right and start with "the book of three"

[@BriGuyIL1980]

Remember when Disney released their movies in theaters every seven to eight years? Those were nice days.

[@midnightthesmartfox9981]

They released 4 live action remakes in 2019 Four! Dumbo, Maleficent: Mistress Of Evil, Aladdin and The Lion King

[@BriGuyIL1980]

@@midnightthesmartfox9981 I meant the animated ones

[@midnightthesmartfox9981]

@@BriGuyIL1980 Ah, ok

[@Salixa456]

Her reasoning for liking it: "But muh Belles free agency and muh black people." Yeah yeah. SUPER IMPORTANT. (Like Belle wasn't independent in the original.) Just admit it. This was just a rehash cash grab. People like it cuz it's pretty for the kids and a reason to revisit the original. It ain't noteworthy or worth spending money to sit in a theater. (At least in my opinion anyway.) Even with Zootopia's massive success last year Disney still doesn't believe they can rely on original stories? It's sad.

[@greenmanatee3368]

Hey Brad how long do you think we've got til we get Tyler Perry's Song of the South? I can see it now: Co-directed by George Lucas and starring Kevin Hart, Ahmed Best, Chris Tucker, and a couple of random child actors.

[@29AndreG]

Maybe they'll get the director of 12 Years a Slave.

[@aromaladyellie]

My reservations are as follows: I hate Emma Watson's acting, I find her to be in the same boat as Kristen Stewart, except instead of underemotive, Watson is overemotive. She should invest in becoming a stage actress, where that kind of thing belongs. Also the Beast's human face- he wasn't beastly enough imo. And the gold dress reminds me of Hermione's atrocious Yule Ball "dress robes", only yellow and with a wider skirt. The first complaint, my distaste for her acting, is the top reason I don't want to see it. Oh, wait- and now searching "Belle" will bring up even MORE pictures of Watson than it did originally.

[@1000huzzahs]

I think you guys both had equally valid points of view for this movie, IMO. You each make the case quite well. Good discussion.

[@Kari166]

I think my favorite critique about the CGI is that The Beast looks like a low-polygon character from a PS2 game. XD

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

Kari166 I can actually see where that comes from. Of course he's not actuallt low poly, but his head shape has a flat effect on the face at times.

[@Kari166]

Well I assume they were talking about old Playstation games. :P

[@Tareltonlives]

It's a bad design, too

[@sweetchocolatesecret]

I have to agree with Brad...musicals with different casts on stage are far different from movies. You go into a movie expecting something more, be it imagery or dialogue. Musicals are different experiences entirely. I mean look at the Beauty and the Beast stage musical itself! THAT actually adds a lot in my opinion and has a completely different feel when experiencing it. This movie feels EXACTLY the same as the animated movie.

[@billybarnett9518]

That's what certain people wanted though, and they would be pissed if it was not.

[@campstamp1501]

I liked Luke Evans as Gaston as well. Although I do agree that he wasn't my first choice for the role. I would've liked Hugh Jackman for it because with his theatrical background he would've been a natural for this. Then there's also the fact that he played Gaston in the broadway show back in 1995.

[@helgmelia84]

Can we please get a Cinema Snob of Roberto Benini's Pinocchio?

[@KEVMAN7987]

Casey Robin That would be haunting.

[@Atomic_Mousetrap]

The crows might seem like stereotypes, but their song is them roasting Timothy with clever wordplay. I just don't know.

[@highdefinitionapollo2189]

All the remakes prove that modern Hollywood writers have come to a point that if any original idea ever pops up in their heads, they'd probably think it's a tumor.

[@LadyTylerBioRodriguez]

That's a sad truth.

[@fuckoff8388]

George Zhang There are no original ideas. there's just changing names of people places and things. And that's okay

[@caseyj5637]

Remakes have been happening for decades. It's not a Modern Hollywood™ thing.

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

George Zhang It's the Studios that choose what to greenlight.

[@Dar454Ko]

I don't like her as a critic, in almost every video I saw her in she is blinded by some fangirl-stuff or other shit like that. personal opinions aside, this movie doesn't work in the sense that the new stuff doesn't add anything. they put it just to justify the remake but most of it is just put in there and then never mentioned again. is pretty much a superficial layer to the movie but it doesn't give a "new dimension", is like, as brad said, kind of deleted scenes of the original.

[@DieHardAlien]

"Why does anything happen?" - Midnight Screenings - Beauty and the Beast

[@thekingofcuddles3080]

Every time she says 'Uhuh', it sounds like she's saying, "Yeah, please tell me how you're wrong."

[@GAZArts]

This was a refreshing debate, interesting to see the apposing opinions.

[@ryanrobotham7696]

The remake of Dumbo is being written by Ehren Krueger. The guy wrote the Transformers sequels and gave us Skids and Mudflap. I pray on everything I find holy and sacred that they leave the crows out.

[@mastermarkus5307]

I saw the film tonight, and I agree with Sarah more than Brad. I think there was enough changed to warrant a watch. For one thing they filled in like _all of the plot holes_. The curse was more recent so there's no issue of age, such as Chip being strangely young or the Prince being too young to be considered responsible for his actions when he was cursed. The prince's crime is not JUST turning away the sorceress, but that he lived in excess and her visit basically proved to her that he deserved the curse. Why does nobody remember the castle of the person who presumably ruled them? Because part of the curse had the citizens not remember the castle, and presumably, since the curse had not been going on for like, ten years or whatever it was in the original it makes more sense as to why people may not have found it. I also think a lot of the characters were more "human", and while it's a personal thing (some people might like "cartoony" better), I like that. For example, LeFou isn't just "the joke character" but one that _does other things!_ I also enjoyed that it sometimes felt like a "big" old-style musical film, like the Rogers and Hammerstein stuff, and I miss the fun and drama of that style. I loved the set and costume design for the most part, just _gorgeous_ clothes. If there was anything that disappointed me, it's that Gaston's song didn't include the "Every last inch of me's covered with hair!" part, and he didn't rip open his shirt (and I could totally see chest hair, he _could've_ without anyone adjusting it), and I was a bit disappointed that while the film was obviously more "musical", they didn't include the song "If I Can't Love Her", which is one I really liked from the stage musical (though I did like the Beast's solo song from later in the movie. It wasn't absolutely outstanding, but it fit well, and I thought it was sweet). Also, a bit of a CGI gripe - the Beast didn't look "really there" sometimes (such as when he's in his bed as Belle cares for him.) I mean, the one made in the _FORTIES_ had a convincing Beast costume! I would've much preferred a costume enhanced with CG rather than have him entirely made up of CG.

[@mfitzburger5137]

I could have my entire life enjoying Beauty and the Beast without LaFou's feelings or knowing the technicalities of the curse. It's based on a centuries old fairy tale, for fucks sake. Shit doesn't have to add up to be enjoyable!

[@mastermarkus5307]

M Fitzburger I'm saying that that MADE it enjoyable, capisce? You don't have to agree with me, but if you're going to try to argue could you please try to keep up. Also see the movie first before judging the thing as a whole? You can have your opinions but if you haven't seen it I'm not sure that you can form them with much certainty.

[@kimlechman5856]

I got a pre-screening for Beauty and the Beast, and I totally think both Brad and Sarah's comments about it are on point. It's not a bad movie, it's a decent movie, that has good things in it, but the worst thing you can say about it is that it's a remake that has no reason to exist.

[@caseyj5637]

I wonder if they're going to do the live action The Lion King like the Broadway version with the costumes and such?

[@Arrowdodger]

The original is probably my favorite Disney film, so I do want to see this, particularly since I tend to lean a little more towards Sarah's take on stuff than Brad's at times

[@johnsonjohnson3261]

Holy shit! I never realized how much I enjoyed hearing you guys argue.

[@planetk7447]

Thanks for reviewing this :) I miss the IMDb boards to talk about movies that just came out

[@LadyTylerBioRodriguez]

Me to... it would have been a glorious clusterfuck.

[@29AndreG]

Blame the alt-right.

[@jaxparra8168]

I hate what they did with the beast he horns are completely wrong. he looks more like Pan or something. they use the same style slicked back horns with so many live action horned characters in movies. the original forward facing style looked great!

[@MontyPythonFanatic2]

Shockingly, Boss Baby isn't actually from some cheapie Sony offshoot, but a big-budget offering from fucking DreamWorks. Because I guess they've given up on making films appealing to non-toddlers. Since their next film after that is fucking Captain Underpants.

[@ToadySP]

I'm looking forward to Pirates 5. I actually really like the first three Pirates Of The Caribbean movies, I felt like it worked really well as a trilogy. The fourth movie on the other hand... that movie killed my love for pirates for about a year. It had a lot of problems honestly, I'll just name the three that bugged me the most: *1.* It had _way_ too much Jack Sparrow. The first three movies always had a good consistent formula where the focus would jump between the three main characters: Jack Sparrow, Will Turner, and Elizabeth Swan. But Pirates 4 didn't have Will or Elizabeth there to give the audience a break from Jack Sparrow, so there was just too much. It felt like the entire movie was following a comic relief. *2.* There came a point where there was so much fantasy, and not a cent of it is impressive by any means. Okay. First movie had cursed men who turn into skeletons. Second movie had a Kraken, and a squid man who has a bunch of fish guys with him, who's beating heart is locked in a treasure chest. Third movie had Davy Jones' locker, but otherwise it only had everything that the second movie had. Now, compare that to THIS movie. Which features: a magic sword that controls a living ship, bottles that contain miniaturized captured ships, zombies, killer mermaids with magical whips, and the fountain of youth. There was so much mystical shit going on that I'm sure I've forgotten about some of it. *3.* It randomly got rid of a lot of the side characters that I had grown to love in the previous films. Remember the two silly British soldiers from the first film? The ones that become pirates by the end of the third film? They're not in the movie. Remember Pintell and Ragetti? The two comic relief characters from the first film, one with the wooden eyeball? They're not in the film. Never mentioned. Remember the bearded mute guy with the smartass parrot? Nope! Not in the movie. Never even mentioned. It just felt so awkward how so many of the previously established characters just sort of disappeared without even a mention. In the end. I'm looking forward to Pirates 5. With Javier Bardem playing the villain, and the return of Will and Elizabeth; I can imagine this being an interesting sit. The one thing that's worrying me is that I hope they tone down the mystical stuff a little, it's a pirate movie: it doesn't need zombies.

[@mekinot]

I haven't watched the movie yet, so I don't know if it's good or not. But honestly, if Disney is going to remake their old movies (and copy their own style for their new movies), I'd rather have something original. No kidding, when they announced the live action for The Beauty and the Beast, I thought it'd be more like the recent french adaptation of the fairy tail, which is NOTHING like the animated Disney's one. That at least would've been interesting. There's a lot of potential in these remakes, because these movies were already adaptations of tales that have hundreds of different versions, so you can pick and choose what you like or think it's interesting of them and make something new. But no, they'd rather make the exact same movie again, but live action. I understand if people are disappointed by this. I mean, I'd usually say it's not our place to talk since this movie is aimed at kids and not us, but to me it seems like it's trying to appeal to a nostalgic audience rather than a new one, so... Yeah, it feels completely unnecessary.

[@daesgatling1345]

My main problem with this is that Emma Watson's acting just seems....off. It feels more a retread of Hermoine than Belle

[@JoeMama4352]

If you want to get technical, Disney released a live action 101 Dalmatians in 1996. They really settled in for the long haul on this live action thing.

[@midnightthesmartfox9981]

I hear they’re planning to remake the live action one

[@dicnar]

Wow. i never saw you guys dissagre on anything :D

[@willday9647]

Will Disney remake Old Yeller as a CGI cartoon?

[@Maximillionaire666]

If I'm not mistaken, Gnomeo & Juliet: Sherlock Gnomes is actually happening...with Johnny Depp too.

[@Remythechef]

The changes made in this film were stuff that didn't really matter and left no real impact. I mean if they did more remakes like Pete's Dragon I think we'd be ok

[@issaphae9659]

At first when I heard they were remaking BATB, I was like Brad. Ever since that last trailer, I've been hyped as hell. I watched it, and I absolutely loved it. Some things I actually thought it did better were Belle, Maurice, LeFou, Belle and Beast's love story, and the Enchantress. 1. Emma killed it as Belle and her somewhat awkward tendencies as well as her obvious frustration made her an even more three-dimensional character. 2. I think 98% of people who've seen the movie agree that Kevin Kline's Maurice was fantastic, so I don't have to explain that one. 3. LeFou, like what Brad and Sarah said, was an actual person and not just a beanbag with a lisp for Gaston to throw around. 4. Making the Beast more sophisticated in how he loved literature just like Belle meant that instead of Belle loving him in a pitiful, "oh-look-he-can't-even-read" manor, the two genuinely had something to bond over. I bought the love story here much more than in the original animation (kudos to the actors for selling the hell out of it). 5. I love how the Enchantress was woven into the story more; in the original, she was mentioned in the beginning, and that's about it. I thought that her being the one to have to lift the curse after she hears Belle say that she loves the Beast makes more sense. The curse said that if the last rose petal fell before someone learned to love him, he would turn back into a human--there's nothing about bringing him back to life in there, so it makes sense that she literally has to bring him to life as well as transform him.

[@Tareltonlives]

The one thing they got right, IMO, was the cast.

[@minigmaenigma]

Aw jeez that's somewhat disappointing. Lindsey Ellis tweeted a bunch of stuff that made the movie look like it was gonna be an embarrassing mess.

[@billybarnett9518]

Really? She's starting to get a bit annoying.

[@LadyTylerBioRodriguez]

What did she say? She loved the original quite a bit.

[@JaycRam]

Billy Barnett Starting? A bit? She's been regularly annoying for a great number of years.

[@billybarnett9518]

I guess you are right, but she usually had a point, now I just think she is nitpicking everything.

[@WhoTookMyMirr]

Billy Barnett well she does worship Anita Sarkeesian.

[@ThatMissQuin]

I'm looking forward to hearing what Brad thinks of Belko, I saw it last night before Beauty and the Beast.

[@missnotsocool96]

I guess we're still stuck in a time loop in which the same movies are being redone over and over again.

[@CCscorsese]

I'm looking forward to the eventual Aladdin and Mulan remakes because they sound like they'll at least be a bit less carbon copy, but I'm with Brad when it comes to Favreau's Lion King. I liked Jungle Book, but what's the fucking point in remaking Lion King fully in CGI?

[@TheMagicRobot]

Is the microphone located in her nose?

[@Raf8347]

brad does better honest reviews than the Sibling Rivalry reviews

[@9-bitfox]

Fox: Closest ive seen Sarah get to being angry or going into a argument. Though I kinda had a similar impression to Brad's

[@christinastork8258]

*Before Watching* PLEASE tell me you loved it and it's perfect. This is my most anticipated movie of 2017, so do not let me down. *After watching* Okay. I can live with that.

[@Usagi393]

I protest every "Beauty and the Beast" movie until Crazy Old Man is allowed to join

[@randalgraves6979]

👀 Wabuu

[@emperorsean1]

i cant wait to c what brad thinks of the powerangers movie

[@Rickbane01]

Do they have the song where Mr.Burns sings about his vest?

[@slashingkatie7872]

I don't get why Disney is doing these live action remakes if they're not doing anything really different. It's just like "hey look how cool this is with live action and CG." At least Cinderella tried to give more depth to the characters.

[@ThatTommyGirl]

"why do this"? I'm guessing it has something to do with giant piles of money.

[@Username159_]

Anyone else disappointed that Ron Perlman wasn't playing the Beast?

[@marikotrue3488]

Just saw this movie today in 2D (I heard that the 3D version wasn't worth the extra $). While I liked this movie and appreciated the fine tuning (Belle's invention/tool skills, LeFou's caretaker job, the sorceress/hag's role was enlarged), I agree with Brad the even with extra scenes, songs and even dialogue, this film felt the same as the 1991 animated version. I am guessing that Disney feels that they want to recreate their classics to appeal to a generation that prefers CGI or live action, to old style animation. I left this movie pleased, but not impressed or surprised.

[@andybaxter4442]

I figured they would make Belle a dual-sword-wielding badass mercenary who decapitates werewolves. Also, I assumed they would make her Chinese.

[@JaeRell]

Andy Baxter Sounds dope.

[@Ergogre]

That had already been reserved for the 2018 live-action Mulan movie. "Let's cut a wolf out of you" HYPE!

[@Kyman102]

Ergoogre - ... Not gonna lie I'd actually want to watch that.

[@cinebst]

No, that would've been interesting.

[@AlucardsQuest]

No no, you're remembering their script for the Mulan remake.

[@brookearielsmith]

I knew I wasn't the only one who wanted Hugh Jackman as Gaston!

[@RajaTlight6]

Now we want a snob episode about Roberto Benigni's Pinocchio!

[@FireBlastStudios]

I don't care what anyone says, crummy animation aside, there's more creativity involved in the making of say, Return of Jafar then there is in any of these remakes.

[@dionysos46]

The King of Thieves was the Disney's Indy 3.

[@danahimrich4066]

The more I saw of the advertising for this movie (and for stuff like Cinderella and Jungle Book), the more offended I felt as a consumer. Like, you seriously expect me to sit down and watch the same movie except longer and with shitty CGI. No thanks.

[@danahimrich4066]

Also, I think Hugh Jackman played Gaston when the Broadway show first started?

[@GaiashKetoji]

J.M. Berenswick Cinderella and Jungle Book have much more different approaches to the story than the originals though so it's not watching the same movie.

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

J.M. Berenswick The Jungle Book didn't feel the same to me at all. Cinderella, a little.

[@robinthrush9672]

The crows in Dumbo will definitely be updated to remove the stereotyping.

[@Johnny0lovely69]

Gnomeo and Juliet was actually Elton John's dream project

[@zolibako4816]

Why is she not okay with Brad having a different opinion?

[@ZeldaQueen64]

The Cinderella movie did pretty much the same stuff as in this one - it was clearly meant to be an updated live action remake of the animated movie, with a few things changed. And like with this, some changes were for the better (Ella's romance with the prince - who actually gets a name! - is MUCH more developed) and some were for the worse (see all of Doug Walker's comments on how this version of Cinderella seems weaker than the animated one). Honestly, I view these live action remakes in the sense of "Well, I don't think they're necessarily better than the originals, but they're something new and pretty and I like that they're now in existence as an option, while we also still have the animated versions to go back to if we'd like". Could this have been a better adaptation of such an iconic movie? Eh, yeah. I'm sure it could have. But it also could have gone much worse, and there were quite a few parts that I enjoyed, which is more than I can say for Joel Schumacher's Phantom of the Opera, for example.

[@29AndreG]

That and Hugh Jackman's older now.

[@pompousproductions]

I'm just waiting for Brad and Co. to review the Belko Experiment that film has jumped around everywhere on Rotten Tomatoes.

[@planescaped]

Sarah tends to get a bit... 'internety' when she disagrees with Brad. Really aggressive and kinda, I dunno, pissed off, as if she's taking it personally that Brad didn't like it. I know I saw an argument like this in two other of theirs. Though it is nice seeing these when people don't agree. I understand it though, as I have certain friends who can get unfriendly in their disagreeing sometimes too. XD I agree with him though. It is way too similar.

[@alastair852]

Gonna be totally honest, If I was one of the villagers I'd 100% be on Gaston's side about killing The Beast. Like, he's a massive lion/wolf/bear/bison/boar/gorilla monster who can kill an entire pack of wolves with his bear hands and has kidnapped multiple people, you'd have to be insane to not want him dead.

[@Disney65Fan]

I find it annoying that Disney is remaking every single film that we all know what is gonna happen in it. But I am looking forward to seeing this version tomorrow.

[@Matacron]

If Tim Burton is remaking "Dumbo," I am SO EAGER to see the "Pink Elephants on Parade" sequence. :D

[@ViperChief117]

If I really want to watch a Beauty and the Beast movie I'll just put in the original. This seems like a waste of time to be frank with you.

[@petercastillo2752]

Hugh Jackman is 6' 2" They try to make him look smaller in the X-Men movies because Wolverine is 5'3" in the comics.

[@mikelee8937]

Is it just me, or did anyone else hear an underlying comment from Sarah's "Uh huh" reaction to Brad mentioning something going over his head? As in, "like so many things?" lol

[@doctordoom85]

I'll see this one and may like it, but yeah this one didn't feel necessary. At least with Jungle Book, the original animated film has some problems in that while there are some good songs and a few funny moments the characterization of the cast is fairly flat which last year's remake improved on greatly (and geezus, live-action Shere Khan doesn't fuck around). Same with Cinderella, I liked how Cinderella and the Prince's romance was better developed as was Cinderella and the Prince's relationships with each of their fathers. With this one though, sure the animated Beauty and the Beast isn't perfect but it's definitely overall a really solid film that holds up so I don't think it needed to be tackled again compared to some of the others one that got remade.

[@Disney65Fan]

I love the original one too. Brad. I seen it so many times as a kid.

[@authoralysmarchand4737]

Lady (I don't know your name), Disney ADVERTISED this as pretty much a shot-by-shot remake. So Dude is right. It definitely felt like a half-assed recycling of the script with deleted-for-good-reason scenes added back in. Fans generally want a remake to either remain faithful to the original (like Cinderella) or to be so different that it's its own story (Pete's Dragon). An almost-literal carbon copy is just a rip-off that has no reason to exist.

[@Mallen151]

Did you call Howard Ashman "the other guy"?! :P