Midsize Truck MADNESS Is Upon Us - Here's Why That's Awesome!

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[@danthompson1467]

The problem is there completely out of hand on the prices .

[@first6982]

💯

[@Nikephorus]

Agreed. Every time I see these crazy prices I wonder who can afford them.

[@KTMcaptain]

My first new car was a 2010 Tacoma TRD Off Road double cab 6 speed manual with manual cloth seats and a terrible JBL sound system. That was $35k, which is $47,560 in todays dollars. The closest gladiator to that is the Willys edition and that’s about $45k. I personally got my Rubicon for $48,400 and it is far beyond more equipped. . Now the Rubicon MSRP jumped around $5.5k, but the prices aren’t as bad as they seem.

[@Nikephorus]

@@KTMcaptain My first new vehicle was a 2005 Chevrolet Colorado 4x4. Mid level trim. It was 24,000ish. Not much in the way of trucks in that price range with inflation other then the Maverick.

[@cactuscanine3531]

Way cheaper than a new F150 Raptor

[@thomasabbottjr]

Golden age of overpriced vehicles with features most people don’t need or use.

[@jameshumphrey3425]

I’ll wait till they iron out this chip shortage/supply issues thing so vehicles are produced on a wider scale and thus, price drops. Buying a mid sized truck at half ton price is insanity.

[@KTMcaptain]

Sorry to break it to you, but the full size prices increased as well. The outgoing Tundra was around $50k for the platinum, now is near $75k.

[@TheCapn23]

Midsize/Fullsize prices only align when you compare a high trim or loaded midsize to a base or mid trim fullsize. They aren't equivalently priced.

[@jameshumphrey3425]

@@TheCapn23 that’s a problem of both “sizes” being heavily inflated. I believe the top trim full-sized GMC is north of 100k at the moment. 100k…for a pickup

[@jameshumphrey3425]

@@TheCapn23 and the fact that a BASE model of a full sized truck is 55-60k is insanity.

[@foonus406]

If you could start charging $100,000 per unit and people actually paid it.. why go back to making less profit. You will never again see lots with the amount of vehicles we did pre covid, they will collude to limit supply to keep the prices at the maximum they figure the customer will pay. OPEC has been fixing oil prices this way for ages.

[@rev1868]

My main complaint of the midsized/smaller trucks (beside the general trend of all vehicles of having Uber prices) is that they aren’t too separate from full-sized. There just isn’t enough cost or gas savings from the full sized.

[@goge-k4e]

toyota turdra toyota truck japan made

[@bigd90909]

Great podcast TFL! Could you put timestamps on these videos?

[@smittysmitty481]

The mid-size truck market is were it’s at! The Tacoma looks the best but it’s slow af. The Frontier is my current favorite. The new Colorado & Caynon will be my new favorite next year. The Ridgeline is not a real truck & the Gladiator is an off-roading beast. The Ranger is like the 40 s&w cartridge, it’s not the best at anything but it’s very good at everything.

[@CoyoteFTW]

Ranger Raptor decimate all I don’t understand what’s taking Ford so long

[@smittysmitty481]

BC - you are 100% correct. The Ranger Raptor will be arguably, the most capable production off road truck on the planet.

[@collinsimmons7156]

@@smittysmitty481 the Ford ranger raptor doesn't look as good as the zr2 is it better we have to wait and see but the dash in the new ranger is terrible.

[@B86432]

paying $65k for a midsize truck isn't awesome its literally insane let alone over $50k

[@StarGateSG7]

While the NEW trucks are great, I STILL HAVE A BIG BEEF with manufacturers regarding BOTH PRICE and the lack of an at-least SIX FOOT BED! Interestingly, ALL of these new mid-size trucks are LARGER than my Dad's 1980's/1990's-era F150 full-size truck due to cab length extensions! Price-wise, it is ASTOUNDING how much of a rise (BEYOND that of other consumer products!) such that what used to be a $35,000 decently equipped tradesperson vehicle is now running north of $50,000 and getting into $60,000 territory! That is just outrageous! How about making a decent subsurban/rural basic version with a basic easy-to-clean crew cab interior AND a 6 foot long bed for about $35,000? That is what fleet buyers and the working tradesperson/farmer needs! That's 250,000 worth of truck sales right there in terms of smaller non-full-size trucks within the USA and Canada alone! Don't leave that market hanging! YES! we KNOW the higher trim levels are used as Mall Queens and 4x4 Prestige trucks but having a BASIC $35,000 basic medium-size truck with a 6 foot bed and crew cab with not too much failure-prone tech that I can wash out the inside with a simple hose-down is just right for a good many people! ALSO !!!!! Please Ford, GMC, Chevy, RAM, etc. just give us a 6 foot bed EVEN WITH the crew cab models! We NEED at least a 6 foot bed! A 6.5 foot bed would be even better! You would be surprised how much an extra foot means in terms of work-capability and in-bed hauling that REQUIRES the longer bed length! If you have to increase prices to these astronomical levels, at the very least give us a full 6 foot or 6.5 foot long truck bed on ALL trim levels even the high-end Luxo-Barge and super-4x4 off-roader versions! V

[@deejayimm]

Anyone remember when mid sized trucks weren't larger than full size trucks? The 2023 Tacoma is 3" longer, 3" taller, 1,000 pounds heavier, It has a 5" longer wheelbase than the original Tundra. I mean, I get it, safety and what-not, but they get almost the same fuel economy too. Silly.

[@fishharvester9434]

The original Tacoma was smaller back then too . And now the tundra is bigger than the original model. And bigger than the current Tacoma. You must hang out with Nathan, his hot takes are rubbing off on you.

[@AJourneyOfYourSoul]

A 5’ bed is too short imo. Where are all the new mid size trucks with longer bed lengths with regular or extended cabs?

[@jasonpitts8395]

Andre could probably imitate Gru to perfection.

[@glaffoon1]

Didn’t Ford just recall ALL of the Mavericks , for the 4th time? And delayed the new Ranger for a year? And as far as the Colorado/Canyon goes? First year production vehicles are something I will stay away from. But, maybe in a couple of years. Give them a chance to debug this stuff.

[@deewiedman7384]

i think ill just keep my 2007 fx4 off road ranger i bought new, just had the bed lined and taken off to undercoat the bottom. nj winters are rough on these things, cheaper just to keep it going. only has 45k miles 4,0 extra cab.

[@beaches2mountains230]

S-10 & SONOMA , RANGER, ETC ALL USED TO BE BUDGET PICKUP TRUCKS THAT WERE PRETTY RELIABLE AND EASY TO WORK. GREAT LITTLE TRUCKS FOR YOUNG PEOPLE, STUDENTS AND THOSE WITHOUT THE NEED FOR HEAVY HAULING, WANT THE CARGO CAPABILITY AND ARE BUDGET MINDED.. YEAH THESE NEW VEHICLES ARE BADASS BUT WERE DOES THIS PRICING MADNESS STOP? HOW ARE YOUNG FAMILIES GOING TO PAY FOR THESE THINGS ? SEEMS LIKE THERE DELIBERATELY PRICING THE LARGER POPULAS OUT OF NEW CAR OWNERSHIP OR A LIFETIME OF BANK DEBT. CORRUPT SYSTEM ACROSS THE BOARD. HOPEFULLY ONCE THE BOTTOM IS REACHED ON THE CAR AND HOUSING MARKET OVER THE NEXT 2 YEARS , AUTOMAKERS WILL TAKE NOTE AND MAKE A BUDGET FRIENDLY TRUCK WHICH THEY WILL SELL THE SHYT OUT OF.

[@clevelandaglennable]

Great show but I have some questions. So many car makers are dropping diesels (and V8's) and going to turbo-chargers. Are they as reliable? In the long run, are they not more expensive for owners since they "require" premium fuel? If you are looking solely at cost of ownership, it seems like there are very few choices of trucks and SUV'S that use regular gas.. Have you all considered doing a show on the cost of ownership and the reliability of today's turbo-charged engines? What companies are producing these turbo-chargers and do they have "reputation reliability" like Toyota has? Great content for a show!!!!!!!!!!

[@SM-og9pt]

Diesels are all turbocharged

[@fairdinkum9454]

Have you been living under a rock, or in an Amish country for the last 20 years…? ALL modern common rail diesels are turbocharged, some are twin/bi turbo. And the manufacturers of turbos are old, solid experts. Some single and twin turbos last 3-500.000 km EASILY!

[@SasukeUchiha-zu6dw]

Not all require premium gas (ranger, f150, etc) though you may get a little more power if you do. All the big rigs that go hundreds of thousands of miles use turbos without issues. I think that the more modern engines you need to keep up on maintenance better can't just add a little oil in it and call it good.

[@Wild-Wisdom]

No they aren't as reliable. Higher compression engines therefore they will wear out faster.

[@Sheepleton]

Modern diesels are garbage because of the crazy emissions requirements on them. The turbos are made by the same companies as deisel turbos.

[@markstaley6757]

"The golden age of off road trucks". You better have a gold mine if you want one.

[@Southpaw-qc9gh]

Midsize Trucks. 2500 Prices.

[@Tware8100]

With the GMC Canyon AT4X being $60 plus. The Ranger Rapture is probably going to be somewhere in the same ballpark.

[@ItMeDwaeji]

We can only hope it’ll bring that about

[@TT-ch2pz]

It wasn't to many years ago that the small / mid-size truck segment was almost dead. What a come-back.

[@peterb7585]

Make the truck 20k canadian !!! Give me the features of a 1989 Toyota pickup drop in a 1.9 TDI with manual and auto options make it handle 1 tone. It would have 50 mpg and and be so simple that it would pay for it self. They still don't get it we don't care about what color the shock body and "STICKERS" smoke and mirrors.

[@jeffmaynard6110]

Come on Honda , bring out the Ridgeline type R 😍

[@DH-mf2lv]

Guys, great advice to Jason! Jason, great question and I am in your group, I am long term. Nathan, great to see you back! Great podcast to listen to while helping my wife clean the house.

[@gopnick]

“I sh… kid you not…” 😂 Seriously, guys, thank you for working hard to make this a family show. I catch up almost nightly with my kids in the room. My youngest is in first grade and obsessed. I love that we can enjoy your content together.

[@TREVORJB101]

Ranger Raptor is going to have almost 400hp and 430tq. F/R lockers, and Fox live suspension.

[@mattbrew11]

So basically this

[@jasonpitts8395]

I wish RAM would make a Dakota sized TRX. Problem with that would be the same problem with the GMC and Chevy....the MSRP + dealer markup. I really like the GMC but there is no way in hell I would pay $64K for a mid sized truck when my 2021 RAM 2500 mega cab diesel 4WD Laramie was a hair over that cost.

[@Jay-bw3fl]

Would def consider trading my gladiator on that ranger raptor if it’s at or under 60k. Best looking new midsize truck IMO. Looks amazing in and out. But 60k is as high as I would pay for a midsize fully loaded one so if they’re going to be like gmc at 64 I’m out. Gotta draw the line somewhere. I’m probably SOL.

[@STEWDEE]

Yep. I have 2 dealers in my area put me on a list for the baby Raptor..That truck is a beast. It will destroy the rest of the mid-size trucks off road. I've seen enough of the Australian and South African reviews now to feel confident in that statement.

[@gerryharmon1669]

They look awesome. Just can't justify that kind of money on a truck. Drive off the lot and loose 10K? Crazy.

[@jeffforbes70]

drive off the lot in 2020 you would have made money

[@jstitan2972]

Love the new Frontier!!

[@slmjake]

Love the TFL Crew! God Bless all of you. Looks like I will keep my 04 Ranger for many more years!

[@CoyoteFTW]

It’ll last another 15 years why not

[@goge-k4e]

toyota turdra toyota truck japan made

[@nothing7694]

Why isnt Nathan invited or going to these new vehicle events? Love his input on TFL.

[@Cavemol5823]

He had big foot injury . Cant be flying etc right now

[@calebgoforth9203]

I enjoy your videos, it's so exciting looking to the future of this midsized truck market. I'm gonna be buying a truck here in a year and I feel like a kid in a candy shop. Hopefully all this competition will help me solidify my options

[@WheresHerb]

I'd love new truck but I can't justify the prices. I keep trying to but nope. Lol I bought a 2021 base model colorado with V6 4wd and cringed when I signed on the dotted line 😅. It's not like I can't afford something like a Silverado ZR2 but I can't justify the price tag and refuse to get one just to say " Hey look at what I bought " 😅 BUT I really do like the new Colorado Trail Boss.

[@KTMcaptain]

This is why I bought my truck when I did. The Ranger Lariat FX4 is already over $45k and a Tacoma TRD Off Road premium is near that as well. Got my Gladiator with leather, pained hard top and fenders, alpine sound, led package, safety package, towing etc for $48,400. . Yeah it’s more than I’d like to spend, but I got $9k off during the pandemic and knew prices weren’t coming back down. Now I’m seeing people spend $15k more than I did for virtually the same packages. . Ironically, I bought a 2010 Tacoma for $35k with nothing for amenities. Cloth, stick, double cab trd off road new in 2009. Had the jbl speakers though. That’s $47,560 in todays dollars, so I got a much much nicer truck for essentially the same money.

[@ShaunsJeep]

60 grand for a midsized is just way to much.

[@RCPhotosVideos]

12 mins in and they say several things that are first for a midsize but the gladiator has it…like the bumper ready winch

[@foonus406]

I doubt that you will see availability of the cheaper trims on those offroad models. Manufacturers have realized they can keep the price high by limiting availability (just like OPEC does). All sorts of shady tactics with these companies. IE. Why no 10 speed transmission on the Chev or GMC gassers? They are trying to upsell you on the Diesel for 10K more, because if they paired the 10 speed with the 6.6 gas the difference in MPG would make the expensive diesel even harder to sell.

[@rosswallace2969]

Just want a gladiator with a v8 or that tt i6. Need 400 hp

[@jnmaher1967]

When will the gladiator 2 door and bigger bed come out? Something different than 4 door on everything.

[@uniglez5264]

I’m glad that engineers are taking the time to watch your videos And proving their software and or making modifications due to your test, makes me feel like they really do care about making a good product. Thanks TFL for all your great work, it proves to the world that you guys are making a difference with all your tests. Great job guys.

[@WillPittenger]

I wonder if Ford would do a Ranger AND a Bronco pickup. The latter would compete more directly with the Gladiator while the former would take on the other midsize pickups.

[@phileasler5401]

Just talk to a product manager, Nissan truck like the Maverick is coming out soon….all bev!!!

[@Cavemol5823]

Mid size is better for off roading overall

[@alejandromartin9674]

The Tacoma automatic gearbox is honestly one of the worst I have tried

[@DanDannyDanielleBob]

Was going to wait to see the ranger raptor before buying but then realized they were probably going to be $70k...why wait? I wouldn't spend that on any car. But of course the frontier king cab pro4x is not sold in US and is otherwise exactly what i want. Every option except a sunroof and their dumb steps and sports bar with a 6ft bed

[@JR-mc1rn]

What is the widest mid sized truck? I want something more comfortable than the cramped compact trucks but not as ponderous as the full sized trucks..

[@aerynlovell4754]

I am 5'9" and for 10 years I drove a 2002 GMC Sonoma, and it had a very comfortable interior. I recently bought a 2016 Canyon, and the interior of the Canyon isn't as comfortable as the Sonoma. I am looking for Sonoma seats for the Canyon because the Canyon seats don't have lumbar support. I also find Canyon seats hard, and I sit too high with my head, almost touching the headliner.

[@doneB830]

Mid size is the perfect size.

[@bunnyfartloads]

That is not what she said 😁

[@jameshumphrey3425]

I’m sure they have a great personality

[@Dbb27]

I’m impressed you got into the GM proving grounds! Grew up in Milford and that was every teenager’s dream! They have a huge track.

[@Mkpro25]

I think Toyota pushed their new Tacoma model out to 2024 to be the last “new” midsize truck. That way people think it is the most updated. Look at Nissan they updated the frontier first and in 2 years people will say it’s outdated.

[@Steven-xj2rf]

Nissan can throw the Z cars V6 Twin Turbo in the Frontier for a halo model and people will feel different about the truck.

[@gtileo]

Toyota is always last to update, and really they use legacy equipment in all their vehicles. It's never been like them to innovate they've been more so about reliability for their vehicles and will keep something that's been proven to give their customers something solid and robust, over trendy and fresh

[@Mkpro25]

@@Steven-xj2rf personally I love the frontier and glad they went with a V6 instead of a turbo 4cyl. I think that will save them when all is said and done

[@Mkpro25]

@@gtileo I agree they are never about innovation but they constantly refresh and update their Tacomas. Since the name plate they have like 3.5 generations (12-15 I’m counting as .5 since they did update the front end and radio). So they like to keep things fresh but maybe not ground breaking

[@gtileo]

@@Mkpro25 they might update the plastics and sheet metal design but the frame, and power train and everything that matters is all the same, trust worthy driveability, they don't really even give you power increases.

[@joemartino6976]

Multiple manufacturers, acting independently of each other, pricing vehicles seemingly out of reach for an increasing portion of the population. Manufacturing issues have delayed am economic reckoning, but, at some point, there will be one. Collectively, this array of hyper-expensive trucks won't find enough buyers once their assembly lines return to some sort of normal.

[@bigcoug66]

This is the new normal. Not going back to pre 2020.

[@beaches2mountains230]

I AM WITH YOU REGARDING THIS ECONOMIC RECKONING HOWEVER IM HAVING A HARD TIME SEEING THEM DROP PRICES. JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE,ONCE THEY GO UP THEY ALMOST NEVER RETURN TO PRIOR NORMS. I DO THINK THEY ARE PRICING THEMSELVES OUT OF THE LARGEST DEMOGRAPHIC AND IF THEY EXPECT THOSE PEOPLE TO FINANCE THESE ABSURD NUMBERS ITS NOT A SUSTANABLE MODEL AND THE PAST RECESSIONS AND MARKET CRASHES PROVES IT !!

[@theantman3788]

I need ford to announce the ranger raptor release times. I can’t wait forever, may just go with the frontier or canyon

[@FS7VZ]

Ford Ranger 2023 XLT RWD engine 2,3 L I 4 for kids! We live in USA…….. it’s crazy. Ford stupid!

[@ericsensible2351]

Definitely would by the nissan SV 4X4, but would put a 1" leveling kit on, also Mechanical parking brake (pay attention Ford,Chevrolet, and Dodge).

[@ryansinks4919]

I’m in the market guys! 👏

[@rosswallace2969]

I like this podcast set up. It makes me feel like I’m at the table with you guys. Now give me a mic and stand lol

[@deal492]

But it looks like they are holding hands a lot of times.... 😆

[@organicmechanic8170]

@TFLtalk Andre if you get spec a Jeep Gladiator Sport with the Max Tow Package you get the same Dana 44 axles, the wider ones, and 4.10 gears as the Rubicon, just without the lockers or disconnecting sway bar.

[@jeffforbes70]

get a seat extending braket, helps a lot

[@honda116969]

I'm going to stick with my 2022 Tacoma 4x4 off road six-speed manual, total basic 📦 only Toyota added side steps, all weather floor mats, bed lights, exhaust tip, blacked out badges & mud flaps.. after destination/delivery fee $39,280 may not be the nicest truck but still under $40,000 it's just disappointing when every model of Tacoma, Colorado/canyon, ranger, gladiator & frontier all in the 45K price range... Way to expensive imo

[@TexasMaximus210]

On the intro of the video, Andre did he's best Dr Evil impression announcing the title of the video

[@aerynlovell4754]

I don't know if the modern technology in trucks will make them better or worse. At work, we have cube vans (Isuzu, Hino, Fuso) with touchscreens in the newer trucks. The new trucks we have are only a few months old but the touchscreens are already glitching. When I pushed the volume button for the radio, nothing happened. I had to turn the truck off and on 4 times to reset the touchscreen. Then one morning when it was cold I couldn't turn off the air conditioning. I had to push the button about 30 times before it shut off.

[@mikegulbranson4418]

What about the used trucks would you still pick the Honda Ridgeline or the Ford Ranger, I like the 7000lbs but not to push that number gives you space so not pushing the limit, for pulling lite travel trailer, 4000 lbs range.

[@njosborne6152]

Hogwash a six pack truck is a large truck! that is not a medium size truck! just because it says 150 on it, try parking that beastly thing in Los Angeles, with 1/2 the streets cut off with construction.

[@anthonyzhang4918]

The most egregious thing, imo is that the base ranger XL100A doesn’t have cruise control. Like wtf. Why is cruise control tied to ford Sync??

[@Ishkatan]

I appreciate your functional reviews, but I am so tired of you talking about looks. They are very subjective. And i really like not having a console shifter.

[@idontevenknow232]

I would love a Tacoma Hybrid with the 2.7L

[@neekshernandez5894]

What about the ram Dekota that was announced?

[@trevormangus7832]

To see the capability of the ranger raptor just go to the KZbin 4WD 24-7 from Australia

[@VieweronYouTube]

Everyone talks about the Honda Ridgeline but that is the ugliest truck in the American market by far.

[@Cavemol5823]

What do we need to do get dodge make mid size truck :(

[@Mark-on7pz]

The reason this is the golden age of the mid size truck is because it takes a lot of gold to acquire one!!!!

[@Ishkatan]

Have you looked at the after market lift kits for the Ridegeline? Nice talk review in general.

[@Zyworski]

Mid-sized truck madness never left, Detroit is just too stupid to get on board.

[@Hunter-ex2sw]

So a midsize truck is worth almost as a F150 Raptor😢😢😢

[@gordonmacdonald8657]

Who in hell is gonna be able to afford them anymore I can't that's for damn sure

[@miguelvega7765]

Dare I say 1st?

[@kraken9634]

No lmao

[@kraken9634]

Jk

[@KTMcaptain]

1st

[@joelpierce3940]

The military is using modified Chevy Colorado’s.

[@evilfinnigan]

I love the competition to keep Toyota on its toes!

[@elche1976]

They're on their heels. They aren't the king like they were 5-10 years ago.

[@mattbrew11]

Modern vehicles are all roughly the same on longevity. The tacomas cab is weird and it has a dinosaur powertrain.

[@elche1976]

@Darren Gross and the cabin space is less, especially back seat. Interior is outdated. As a daily driver. It's not comfortable. But they sell based on their name alone because people like Darren believe that, while inferior, they're still somehow better. It's rather interesting.

[@danatmatchvox]

Like all off road things we go back to Landrover

[@henryyang5472]

You lost an arm when talking about price 😂

[@SHOOT_NDX]

Hey Andre are you over 6’2”. LOL 6,214

[@RCRitterFPV]

straight up... best midsize Off Road vehicle for 40k... new or used... family of 5. Somewhere between a Gladiator and a Ridgeline.... Ranger - 4Runner... Tacoma to Bronco add in a touch of Volvo Cross Country... plug in electric hybrid... tow 6000+

[@rockymountainjazzfan1822]

Sadly, what the automakers are doing is reminiscent of the Great Depression in the 1930's. The automakers manufactured some of the most innovative, capable, forward-looking, handsome vehicles ever produced up to that time, BUT ALMOST NO ONE COULD AFFORD THEM. By 1941, many of the high-end automakers were bankrupt and most of those that survived were gone by the end of the 1950's. Right now, much of the middle class in American can no longer afford any new car beyond the most basic transportation. And the REAL recession/depression is only just beginning. My prediction--by late 2023, high-end pickups like the GMC Canyon AT4X will be getting heavily discounted just to get them off of dealer lots. By 2024 or 2025, I predict at least one of the Big Three American auto companies will be in bankruptcy.

[@robertstewart1262]

Some people are getting 96 month loans. The vehicle will be junk by the time it’s paid off.

[@elche1976]

@@robertstewart1262 unless you take care of your vehicle and don't buy it with plans of just selling it.

[@johncarnegie5358]

I think a large market exists, well still exist for “dumb” trucks, that are reliable and work, meaning payload, towing longevity no bells and whistles and don’t care about tech and screens that go bad and don’t want the gimmicks. With midsize trucks being formerly full-size truck sizes,the auto manufacturer who makes such a truck you can actually buy for under $29k will gain tremendous market share.

[@HomenetAV]

Was just on the Config site, and NO GMS Plan for current employee's and family for the new Colorado/GMC trucks. it doesn't apply to all, but hey that extra 2~4k adds up fast. Just FYI in case you are fortunate enough to get that. It has some things I just don't care about if you actually work in the trades as I do. 1. That stupid tailgate cargo box. Why? how long do you think those latches will last, once a large heavy item snaps em' clean off? 2. Light control in the Infotainment screen! That's just plain stupid! I can control my own lights, thank you! I like to drive with just my running lights on most of the time. 3. I can see many turbo's potential failing right after the warranty ends, (speculating ) but trust me after owning turbo's and rebuilding them by hand, last thing I want is a turbo that is integrated into the manifold. While the new block is beefier and uses new forged lower end parts from the now discontinued Duramax, I'm sure that is fine. But I have to again go back to the turbo's and there high propensity of failure. Those sealed journal bearings simply will not hold up to the intense heat over time and load. Even if they are water cooled. I hope I'm wrong. Time will tell. 4. As far as overall quality ( Sans turbo? ) GM has improved greatly! I own a 2020 ZR2 with about 55K and I've had not ONE single issue! Zero squeaks rattles or otherwise, and trust me I'm no angel when it comes to my right foot. So my concerns about the new 2023 are really non-existent. Break Em' in slowly people! I would never, ever buy a truck without a cold rolled, hydroformed frame, end of story. 5. Lastly I want the dropped forged cast iron front upper and lower control arms on the TrailBoss. Have not been able to see them in pics' or specs. Anyone Know?

[@ahighervibe4086]

When you guys are looking at the Monitor making comments about the pictures being displayed, do you realize we can't really see these images because they're too far away??? With that in mind, PLEASE show the image full screen!!! It's BEYOND FRUSTRATING to see the images from far away! I know you want to show the hosts if the podcast, but you show them all the time. So whoever edits these videos...please let us see what the hosts are Commenting on as they view the images. Thnx

[@StarGateSG7]

P.S. Where is my inside and outside-of-truck accessible combo Fridge + Freezer that can hold 4 subway subs sandwiches, a six-pack of sprite AND keep a one gallon bucket of ice cream frozen solid for at least an entire 4-day holiday weekend? I want the combo fridge-freezer to be lockable and openable from the outside via ANY authorized end-user enabled smartphone connection AND/OR via the key fob AND/OR via the on-truck-body keypad combination code. Put it in the tailgate (i.e. make it thicker and STILL accessible if the tailgate is DOWN or UP or put the combo-fridge/freezer in the front of the truck easily accessible via a lockable door. ARE YOU LISTENING Ford, GMC, CHEVY, RAM ??? Put that feature on EVERY truck model and trim --- even the low-end trims such as XL/XLT as an extra option! Tradespeople and outdoors enthusiasts would LOOOOOOVE to have an exterior-accessible lockable combo fridge/freezer that doesn't need the rest of the truck to be opened! Just use your smartphone or key fob or keypad! Just remember we MUST be able to fit four foot-long sub sandwiches in the refrigerator compartment separated from the six-pack of whatever drinks via a removable divider AND we MUST be able to fit an entire one gallon bucket of frozen ice cream in the freezer portion! PLEASE PUT THIS OPTION into your new truck development timeline ASAP! V

[@ApeGorrillo]

You guys went down the alphabet but skipped right over the letter 'R', as in Ram. Seriously, you're not even going to speculate about a future mid-size offering from Ram, such as a Dakota?

[@baracktrump1410]

Starting MSRP of the new Colorado Trail Boss is $38,990, but, that gives you a full framed lifted crew cab pickup with Hi/Low transfer case, Eaton locker rear axle (The G80 GM has used for decades is a locker made by Eaton) , tow hooks etc, that's actually not a bad deal considering the Raptor, ZR2, TRX full size that are approaching 80K, you could buy 2 of the Trail Boss's for that and accomplish most of the off-roading of it's big brothers.

[@edwarddejong8025]

Toyota Tacoma has ruled the mid-sized market. For some reason Honda has had terrible production problems, and that is probably why the Hybrid Ridgeline is delayed again. Very disappointing, because a hybrid entry would instantly become the most economical to operate model in this segment. Gas is very expensive here in California (over $5/gal). I keep hoping that Ford will add a hybrid option, but i don't expect that for two more years, as they are so far behind on Bronco production, they can't afford to change anything.

[@thehondacura3773]

Over $50k for current top of the line midsized trucks is outrageous😡 Overall vehicle supply is going to be short for most of this decade, so prices will not go down anytime soon if ever. Every manufacturer is going to add unibody models to fill in where afforable midsized trucks left everyone. If the Ranger Raptor gets a V6, midsized prices will be off the charts!

[@Wild-Wisdom]

I'm in a bad way i guess, I need a new truck and a new house, how do I ever afford both?? Heck one is a chore. 40k for a truck, a semi-ok house in my area is 250k. My goodness I see why so many people live in a van.

[@GH-oi2jf]

I have a 2nd gen Colorado. I’m ok with the new 2.7l engine, but the lack of an extended cab and manual transmission are deal breakers for me. I’ll keep my standard transmission Colorado forever. It’s the last vehicle I’ll buy.

[@ohiofarmer5918]

My brother drove his cash for clunkers Colorado purchased new in 2008 for 500030 miles. Manual transmission on original clutch. We think the oil pump grenades and took out the engine. His mechanic was considering getting a crate engine ,but we found a Ford Ranger eighteen years old for about the same price the Colorado was new

[@theejoeylee]

They could of added more features.I don't even care its a truck. I just want features...& MORE features! More than the last model...untill its more complicated than a space shuttle.

[@johncarnegie5358]

With prices and inflation and the way things are trending Mini-trucks will make a comeback. I just hope RWD and 4x4 options with NA engines under 35k will take off.

[@manfredahnen162]

where are all the trucks? Are they making them and they're sitting on a lot somewhere waiting for a part? Will they all become available one day and then prices will drop? I cannot imagine that noting is being made. I'm confused.

[@luisbarraza9709]

Andre if you are looking for a Jeep my local dealership in Reno NV had a ton. They must not be selling well, i drive by it all the time. They have lots of stock of Gladiators, Cherokees, and Wagoneers. And have add them for months.

[@Steven-xj2rf]

My prediction is Toyota will reveal the 2024 Tacoma before Colorado/Canyon hit dealers. Ford will also reveal the US market Ranger and Raptor about the same time. Doing so will be just in time for people that are not brand loyalists to see other options before finalizing a purchase. Nissan needs to give the Frontier a boost unless they want to be the budget truck.

[@williamsisk2897]

Between the tech and prices things are crazy. I personally would rather get an older compact truck and build it up. $2-10k for the truck and over time install upgrades when you're ready to spend the cash.

[@avnmech]

There have been midsized trucks, think Colorado/Canyon and Tacoma/Frontier, but the Gladiator and all it’s capability it what has start all of the mid truck awesomeness!

[@kingpin3919]

Great show fellas 👏

[@MsFatpigs]

I am still traumatized by that first design of the 2019 Ridgeline. SO ugly I still see it even in this nice update.

[@heywater676]

The new Jeep Grand Cherokee price 68,000 and the Gmc Canyon At4x have more goodies