El-P talks about when he knew it was time for Def Jux to end

#ELP #RuntheJewels #whathadhappenedwas #openmikeeagle
from episode 5 of season 2 of What Had Happened Was with El-P and Open Mike Eagle
peep the full episode here: linktr.ee/WhatHadHappenedWas

[@FullKarenMusic]

To me Def Jux took Hip Hop to a level no one else was doing. Everything was real, raw, and somehow refined at the same time.

[@Jjgarcia365]

RIP Camu

[@kelvingonzalez7173]

This is huge to me! I really believed that label had the best roster and to see it abruptly end sucked. Good to see El-P talk about it. Good work!

[@Unxpekted]

Company Flow days!

[@dmn4]

I watched this while it first came out. Came up again.

[@TimTheHuman-br1nl]

Now I want to know why El_P and Aesop don't collaborate anymore.

[@StonewallStacks]

Something went down with Aesop and El as everyone with Def Jux overnight wanted nothing to do with Aesop

[@na-dm6jb]

​@@StonewallStacks Aesop was fucking king and still .

[@StonewallStacks]

@@na-dm6jb the guy has one flow. Kinda hard to be a king when you’re one note

[@cantizzy]

my two favorite musical artists in one place...

[@vesuvianvillain]

Dear O.M.E., Sorry, this is a mouthful but it had to be. I had to pause and come here while listening to the latest on R.A.P. Music (Rebellious African People by the way, I’m sure you already looked that up haha) and speak on the segment about DOOM. It’s absolutely fucking tragic that he passed and devastating that it happened before you could get him on this incredible show. Before I even get into that I have to tell you how much I appreciate you getting El-P to open up so extensively because he’s been my favorite emcee since Co-Flow and all this time it’s been pretty hard to get him to speak about all the music he’s made. He’s never seemed to want to get that deep into his past, so for me, just what you’ve already accomplished, I could die a happy guy. You can imagine my pure elation when it clicked that I had the same little sampler Casio SK piano (mine was the 5, but he had the 1) when he was talking about capturing sound on the 2 second keys, knowing exactly what he was talking about, being proud when I accomplished dope shit on a Casio SK-Anything. I didn’t realize what I had. Little things like that, I never would have known if you didn’t just get legends like El & Prince Paul to just sit around comfortably enough to vibe like that. That’s something that comes from the fact it’s a musician interviewing them. They can relate to you, it’s not a reporter who doesn’t know his shit, it’s not a rabid fan like me that wouldn’t know where to begin. Which brings me back around to DOOM. Like I said, tragic, although like you said, he would have been difficult to pin down for an interview, but damnit if there was anybody he would have sat down with and spilled this shit to.. but I was thinking, maybe the best way around this is getting a bunch of little interviews on the side. Stories about him like El told where he showed up on End To End Burners but you see him for a second (another fact I didn’t know and Burners is my favorite music video of all time, so I’m gonna have to watch that next without blinking to catch him), but just stories from the artists you have on, different people who worked with him, possibly his family will get word of how respectful this podcast is to the art, and they say something, and you basically make a Doom episode out of a compilation of different people speaking on him, like almost build on his legend, you know? Mysterious, what seem like tall tales? Kind of capture his essence in the episode if you can’t have him here yourself. I dunno, I just think there’s an opportunity here that I would trust you with over any other handler because point blank it’s only been 2 artists so far but this is THE best podcast I have ever heard in my life. No pressure haha. Also that tribute rap you did for DOOM was incredible, respect, loved the end when you got the doombot picture. You and Mos Def did him proud.

[@glynkeegan306]

I thought that his freestyle for DOOM was really heartwarming. I'm a major DOOM fan, and part of his persona was being elusive. There are certain interviews he's agreed to and talked about his actual life in for a few hours -- which is really strange if you know him. It was just tragic that he passed away, probably my favourite artist of all time, and I listen to a lot of music... he was that good. I think your idea is a really smart, having various artists that worked with- or was close with the masked villain. Aesop Rock, Madlib, Danger Mouse (etc) could get on and talk about their various interactions too. But another problem with DOOM being on the show initially (before he passed) is that his interaction with OME was always filtered through other people. They never actually spoke to each other. Open Mike Eagle somehow got him to spit on the 'Police Myself' track which was better than an interview imo. But anyhow, I hope other emcees get to share their bizarre-or normal-stories about him here too.

[@glynkeegan306]

I just noticed you had a piece of DOOM art as your profile picture and that's worth a sub 👍👍

[@mistamycall]

"It all comes down to the money ... whether it`s rainy or snowy or sunny" - Terminator X ft. Whodini

[@OracleTheRonin]

lol as soon as I clicked, I flash monikers backwards, haggle proof, snaggletooth

[@TimTheHuman-br1nl]

When are we going to get the El_P, Open Mike Eagle, Aesop Rock, and Killer Mike collab?

[@poopoofuhqueue2389]

It really seems like shit was already tense on many fronts within Def Jux and Camu passing just broke the dam in different ways

[@AerialPenn]

That Delorean beat by El P and Dead Disnee...whewwwwwwww i wanna hear somebody get busy on those in a freestyle.

[@Tyseyes1]

This is good.. I really respect def jux.. at the time they shined a light on good hip hop in weird places.. It was a refuge away from that glam hip hop that was going on at that time..

[@byHexted]

That Delorean beat thi

[@TheIncredibleStories]

Yeah classic track

[@AerialPenn]

First thing I said too. That and Dead Disnee beats by El P are classic to me. Someone needs to freestyle on that

[@baza210]

hey Mike, I had no idea you had a new podcast but was still holding tight to my Secret Skin RSS feed ... if you have permission maybe you could push out a promo for this show there? much love

[@REALdavidmiscarriage]

Just bring it back ffs...

[@KalediostrophicWhyscape-mc2ek]

eghhh...

[@Thatguyoverthere760]

How come Asap Rocky never got sued for stealing Asop Roc’s name ???

[@btosi]

A$AP is the name of their crew, Rocky is the name of the actual artist.

[@gazm135]

Def Jux was kinda kool. Couldn't really dance or rock out to the music tho. It sounded too cerebral and mechanical.

[@powerfullazer4923]

El p was wack from the group just throwing rimes the made no sense I blame elp the best was Aesop rock,caníbal ox was lazy, the dj was always messing up doing drugs and heavy drinking.

[@jax2428]

You're trippin. 😂

[@powerfullazer4923]

@@jax2428 why you say that?

[@awakeawake3163]

Hmm. He seems pretty straight up in conversation. I very much appreciate what he did. Truly a small and important Renaissance. I think the producer/ business owner aspect makes it extremely difficult to separate art from artist.

[@powerfullazer4923]

@@awakeawake3163 El p had that passion but didn't take it seriously for example in the interview on Paid Dues was that worse I have ever seen

[@stevenjamesgiurbinojr6893]

Def Jux definitely was an important Movement in Hip Hop Culture, gotta respect and love El-P and all the dude’s that were apart of that Movement during that particular time period in Hip Hop Music 💯🙏