Secret Characters are MAD CHEAP!

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[@skorie6180]

I wish that Lilith had her full Sprite set in this game since she was in a few of the endings and Roll has them. This game was wierd with their secret characters tbh.

[@nick-playercharacter8583]

Most likely limitations on the tech they were using. Granted, a lot of those limitations seem to fly out the window once MvC2 rolled around, but I don't know how Capcom was running things.

[@ziggyzz7]

@@nick-playercharacter8583 the limitations flew out the door for mvc2 because it's on more powerful hardware

[@Wolfedge75]

(Cries in Splendor Love)

[@stevesteve0521]

@@nick-playercharacter8583 MVC1 was cps2 which is 1993 hardware, mvc2 is sega Naomi which is 1998 hardware and way more advance technically

[@MuhammadAli-xw4yc]

Me likey

[@mushukamislayer379]

This is why we all loved capcom the game depth, characters, hidden characters, freedom to express your playstyle it really was crazy an we still finding tech with no patches hidden interactions with characters ( lore battles etc ) bro … just seems like more love was in it, but bright side the fighting games are even more popular now the fgc an other players is growing as well hopefully we get back to this level of quality again 🔜

[@Uooooooooooooh]

i wouldn't really call breaking the game "quality".. maybe the term you're looking for is emergent gameplay and yes, modern FGs don't have that anymore with the existence of patches and whatnot.

[@lootrat1337]

God dude,if they make another mvc game,I sincerely hope that characters like Gambit,Daredevil,Ant Man ,Jin,Carnage and Nero are in it.

[@coffeebird2857]

I also hope V gets in the game as well, I would love to see how a puppet character would play in mvc

[@Ability-King-KK]

If we're talking full on new, never been in MvC before characters, here's what I'd like to see on both sides. Marvel: Daredevil, Doc Ock, Loki, Human Torch, Nightcrawler, and Blade Capcom: Axl, Leon Kennedy, Laura Matsuda, Masamune Date, Ryu (Breath of Fire II), and Samanosuke

[@jamiehamilton4602]

The fact that MvC infinite doesn't have as many X-Men characters is just a sin. Venom has been in most of the games and yet he's DLC, c'mon. Thanks Disney for ruining Marvel.

[@webberfan1234]

It’d like to play as Agent Coulson

[@chwig7354]

I really like how marrow and the multi arm lady play. If your wish gets granted, I hope mine are as well

[@Machamp-ps7wx]

In my headcannon I just like to call crackhead Venom, Carnage. He’s all glitchy and seems to attack a lot faster like Carnage would.

[@juarezamorim]

I'm pretty sure that was the intention

[@Machamp-ps7wx]

@@juarezamorim probably, if I could go back in time I’d give every character the Roll treatment, new sprite with 90% same moveset.

[@juarezamorim]

@@Machamp-ps7wx the problem they only had 6 months at max to do the game.

[@Machamp-ps7wx]

@@juarezamorim fair, still I appreciate them trying to put Carnage, Lilith, and Red Hulk in. And doing a complete Roll.

[@CarbonRollerCaco]

@@Machamp-ps7wx Orange Hulk was probably because Grey Hulk would make for shitty alts.

[@AceTrainerX3]

10:36 Max, you denied him a Raging Demon. Of course he wouldn't let that go unpunished...

[@gokusondbz]

Very True 😅

[@MitoNova583]

really enjoy that Lou's sprite is more or less an upscaled version of his sprite from Midnight Wanderers I have a BUNCH OF NOSTALGIA for that game & Three Wonders as a whole

[@cMARVEL360]

I remember that game because it once replaced a MVS NEOGEO at a Laundromat back in the day.... I HATED IT!!!! Until I actually played it and loved it for it being similar to Metal Slug... At least in my mind at the time. Over the years my memories warped and I began to think it was a NeoGeo game 🤣🤣

[@MegaDarkness5000]

I love Roll's theme in this game so much.

[@AceTrainerX3]

Fun Fact: It actually comes from Mega Man: Battle & Chase on Ps1

[@MegaDarkness5000]

@@AceTrainerX3 True but it got it's popularity due to MVC.

[@in4mus85]

Jin theme ftw

[@SlySuavity]

I love how your opponent got cheeky at the end with DOUBLE VENOM, given the amount times you did that duo mechanic lol.

[@markholland9278]

17:46 Double tongue Venom will haunt me now

[@BiffMcSkylark]

Wasn't expecting to hear "Thank you Thor" in this lol

[@XenoSonic1]

I like how it's not even Lilith, it's just Lilith-coloured Morrigan

[@phsquared1000]

They got a lot of mileage out of that Morrigan sprite.

[@AceTrainerX3]

That's what I've always called her, ever since I first saw the sprite's pallet.

[@Wolfedge75]

I love how she actually plays like Lilith, and apparently the excuse is that the two sisters switched bodies freaky-friday style. They really cheaped out on the Splendor Love animation though.

[@CarbonRollerCaco]

@@Wolfedge75 They re-merged after VS/DS3.

[@CarbonRollerCaco]

@@phsquared1000 That black-line-ass Morrigan sprite. Which is the same problem Roll has.

[@Lucas-db2jq]

I always forget that Cocaine Venom exists in this game.

[@Sanodi21]

Oh yeah. In the first MvC Ryu had a thing where if you got a specific button while he's out, you trade a gauge for him switching to Ken's style and another for Akuma's. Cycles back to OG Ryu

[@The_Meev]

@@CosmicRPG There isn't one for Sean, the yellow one is just the color he gets when Ryu in his alt color transforms into Ken. It's just a neat reference.

[@CarbonRollerCaco]

HCB+P. LP=Ryu, MP=Ken, HP=Akuma. Would've been hilarious if HCB+Taunt gave you Dan (maybe for 3 levels instead of just 1 as well), but alas.

[@adrianhendricks772]

@@CarbonRollerCaco ...That is an interesting idea! 🤔 I kinda like it!

[@astupidphase]

@@CosmicRPG Street Fighter III isn't fucking canon.

[@DenkyManner]

@@astupidphase III is the only game in the series that is canon.

[@Capcom1984]

Gambit will be in MvC3 when the model importer then we will have Gambit and Cyclops.

[@redlaytee6157]

At first I thought this said "MADE CHEAP" and I was like "What??" ... But then I got it and, yeah, I agree. 😅

[@Premium_Jelly]

I think both apply honestly lol

[@redlaytee6157]

@@Premium_Jelly In some cases, I can definitely agree!

[@toibonniemedia1894]

Bro same

[@ggn3]

Speaking of secret characters, ask Justin Wong about that one time he took on two War Machines.

[@joshualowe959]

Ryu could turn into Ken & Akuma in MVC1

[@WaterDude]

Did you mean UMVC3? Honestly, that would be dope! Edit: Actually, jk. I forget they both weren't in MVC. Carry on.

[@AceTrainerX3]

@@WaterDude You can use one full meter and quarter-circle back + MP or HP to become Ken-style Ryu or Evil Ryu in this game.

[@CarbonRollerCaco]

@@AceTrainerX3 Akuma-style Ryu. Evil Ryu doesn't have air fireball super and Akuma doesn't have vacuum Tatsu super.

[@manuelpatino7863]

No, he couldn't. He could use their play-style and moves, though.

[@AceTrainerX3]

@@CarbonRollerCaco Okay, acknowledged. I just never bothered playing Ryu in this game.

[@kainhighwind2]

I love seeing you give MvC1 love, Max! Game's so underrated compared to the juggernauts of 2 and 3

[@in4mus85]

I prefer 1 to 2 and 3

[@aegisreflector1239]

@@in4mus85 I hate the physics of 3. Especially how characters bounce off the ground like a basketball for like an hour after knockdown. Made me drop the 3 like a bad habit because of it.

[@in4mus85]

@@aegisreflector1239 I know how you feel man.

[@Space478]

@@in4mus85 Max mentioned recently he loves mvc1 most as well.

[@JinJat]

It’s the small details I love in this game. The whole showing a picture when you do a super.. and for some character when they do their super/hyper you can hear a low “get ready” that’s so cool to me 😆 😅

[@cMARVEL360]

Actually.... For some characters it says ' Infinity ' and for others 'X'. . . I don't know why.... But it's something Carried over from both Children Of The Atom & Marvel Superheroes

[@PoosinP]

Man that Intro with Sean and Ken is so fire

[@brandonfarfan1978]

Those secret characters are alot of fun to play. It was so cool to see those dudes pick them, so people who never saw them before, could see them in action.👍😄

[@protodevilin]

"Two-Tongued Venom isn't real, he can't hurt you." 17:46

[@GigaMan91]

I like how the Venoms are just laughing at you at the end. "HAHAHA! HAHAHA! HAHAHA!"

[@raizen912]

"This guy's good" Just realized he's actually playing a person that was blocking everything like a computer, not the computer itself

[@ronaldmaday]

I want MvC2 to be remastered. But boy howdy, how cool would it be if we got an X-Men CotA all the way to MvC2 remaster? I would love to play some of the older games!

[@RafaelFMFerreira]

Would love to see Jin and Gambit in Marvel 4...

[@defianthound407]

You know your watching a Max video if you hear. "*INSERT CHARACTER NAME is Pissed"

[@demowick1197]

Was I the only one, mind you its cool when Max wins, yelling for Gold War Machine and other players to pull off a super when there was a clear opening....and they were maxed super?

[@TheDistantman]

I've played MvC on NullDC recently after being off for awhile, playing that shit on 4K, really makes me up at some point, Capcom and Marvel finally gives a MvC Collection on all major consoles

[@bass6ix651]

More mvc1 🥰 made my day, that double rock smash was epic, gonna try that shit out

[@PerryMcCall18]

Hyper Venom should've been Carnage instead...

[@CarbonRollerCaco]

Orange Venom=Carnage Orange Hulk=Grey Hulk Gold War Machine=Iron Man

[@raptecclawtooth9046]

Since i don´t play MvC, i guess that guy who chooses Gold Warmachine, Dark Ryu and Shadow Lady, is the equivalent of that one who only knows to play Rugal in Kof 2002 plus and only knows Rugal.

[@LordBehemont]

The secret characters in this game are not that broken, the only ones that are real strong are Gold War Machine for his hyper armour, and Red Venom, for his insane speed. Oh and "Dark" Ryu is just Ryu with Akuma moves, he's not a secret character.

[@Luminousplayer]

they are not "that" broken in this game

[@mamba7160]

15:37 dope visual right here

[@flaregamer64]

17:44 that double tongue though.

[@lonjas9191]

Damn where does max buy those sick Mvc shirts?

[@blenksanc8066]

I Love how in the steam bathroom stage you can brake the wall and go into the women's bathroom 🧖‍♀️😅

[@h3llg3ar]

Carnage is a cold piece of work, as is Shadow Lady. Roll and Shadow Lady have crazy endings though...

[@michaelcharlton5972]

Jin's command throw can be comboed into after a standing light kick from close. Still not enough to be that useful, but there it is.

[@PersephoneStars]

God... The secret characters theme song is so Good!!!

[@clayisahottie]

But that's why we love Secret Characters in fighting games in general.

[@Strider-Ragnarok]

Is either in this game or in MvC2, you can combo Jin’s command grab from a close sLK.

[@MuhammadAli-xw4yc]

I want to see Maximillion get to sweet 2million subscribers by end of this year God willing.

[@momintim]

Is this the one that had the Shadow Chun-li?

[@davidkolman]

Red venom = Orochi Iori kof 97

[@LordRaptor]

To be fair, everyone is cheap in Marvel, but only two secret characters are significant in this game, Red Venom who's way better than regular Venom and Gold War Machine, who's about equal with regular WM, the best character in the game, the rest don't really matter because they're weaker than their regular counterparts.

[@Faxanadu_]

Someone give Andre a hug..damn

[@ponyforhire]

Red Venom (AKA Carnage) is the only character I've ever seen that takes more damage than Akuma 😶

[@Iqzzy-KO]

Wassup Max? Good matches bro!

[@saintrs2163]

Day 15 asking max for a boss rage against omega rugal in KOF 2002 um

[@o_oro-q1k]

This would be gold

[@Arkantus92]

Máx, have you ever heard of final fight lns ultimate?

[@syndixel9857]

That's a great fangame. I wish it was easier to get through (Especially that Bison boss fight).

[@Arkantus92]

@@syndixel9857 the game have a autosave feature that leave you at the baeggining of the las stage you played, you should try it, that how I fight vs akuma insted of bison

[@moe3235]

Man I used to be a monster with spidey on this

[@kasquez]

I guess the music budget for this game was used mainly for the Roll and Strider Hiryu themes, maybe also Wolverine's. That's why the rest of the music sucks.

[@Spynmaster]

the next MvC game NEEDS to have X-men or it's trash on-sight.

[@Mai_Shiranui123]

5:27 Blodia

[@adrianhendricks772]

But the codes for the secret characters are easy to memorize, Max. It's all in the *numbers!*

[@briancapps7593]

i lost my first tournament, in sf alpha 3, to someone who knew how to unlock Akuma, he zoned me with double air fireballs and full screen teleports.

[@Heattokun]

Alpha 3? Unlockable Akuma? Pretty sure he was baseroster in a3

[@thesilentsociety3252]

@@Heattokun he must be talking about Shin Akuma

[@Heattokun]

@@thesilentsociety3252 shin wasn’t playable in arcades tho? only balrog, juni and juli were secrets in that. I think he’s thinking of Alpha 1 or 2, or Super turbo

[@phoenixmight5971]

The first player atomic captain never even uses a super combo and dies almost the same every time. Curious.

[@gustavonunez5959]

6:40 Let the challenge begin. xD

[@TheCreepypro]

I remember the secret characters being cheap but not this cheap good gravy

[@mistadomino]

All the secret characters! Also golden hulk is super fun! And yes! JIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@markpalo7772]

It would be cool if they could make the assist characters into playable characters.? Or maybe they have I haven’t seen it yet.

[@Opaqueflake]

Is Captain Commando just alternate Wesker if he was good?

[@thesilentsociety3252]

Double Hulk = A lot of pain

[@SHORYU003]

Where do u get these face shirts from???

[@drflexenstein3537]

Bro where are you getting these shirts?!

[@trevorghalt1881]

8:55 Great battle and is that man back good lol

[@jeremystrauss9208]

I miss Weird Capcom

[@MajinGouken]

Where can I get that shirt?!

[@chudeexiste7329]

Heyy I need help Got fightcade I know where to get the files to play it I can't get into the server, it always says it's full ¿is that it? ¿I won't be able to play this game online ever? Please halp

[@in4mus85]

Man I miss this game. I know its on fightcade but you can't lab.

[@maurimadera3561]

Yes they are.

[@cashordeals3672]

Who's more cheap secret snk bosses or secret capcom character's

[@raptecclawtooth9046]

At least SNK bosses tend to have a hidden technique to defeat them

[@o_oro-q1k]

@@raptecclawtooth9046 *laughs in Rugal in KOF02UM*

[@nybethobdilord6912]

Eh. Red venom and gold warmachine are definitely gimmicky but regular Warmachine and Stryder are the best characters.

[@ddd7038]

Have you seen clips of Red Venom and Gold Warmachine going ham?

[@nybethobdilord6912]

@@ddd7038 yes. I've watched tournaments for mvc1 for awhile. Stryder beats them both cuz of his super. Warmachine overall is just better. Red Venom will either die to a bnb or super cuz of his low health and Gold Warmachine just gets hard countered by Stryder and can't really catch regular Warmachine.

[@ClexYoshi]

I was under the impression that Roll is pretty bad and is more-or-less a joke character because her everything is so extremely stubby? I was thinking he picked roll to handicap himself because of Gold War Machine.

[@ClexYoshi]

@@starbreaker6441 Most lists I've seen have Roll, Orange Hulk, Morrigan, and Lilith at the bottom, with Gief and Ryu being towards the bottom of the character soup, and then at the top is Gold War Machine, War Machine, Red Venom, and then Wolverine and Strider? the game where Roll is incredible is Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom where she has insane air mobility, a really silly OTG setup, and what is effectively ELena's Healing super.

[@ehieth7769]

On where is he running mvc1? I want to play online matches

[@Thedylannguyen]

Bring back secret characters.

[@vxrtxxs1395]

Play slap happy rhythm busters again god the game is dope

[@darklordoffirex7777]

Mvc? Online? How? System?

[@cMARVEL360]

Fightcade 2 , Arcade 1up. I'm on Arcade 1up

[@darkyistired]

Mvc1 had me trippin

[@bc4f985]

Nice. Keep smiling

[@dalethechipmunk3873]

Yeah that's new to me too!? 😅😂

[@wrightparlaypicks]

How are u playing online?? What conse is that on?

[@MegaManXPoweredUp]

Either it's on PS3 (Marvel Vs Capcom Origins) or on PC.

[@daisukenojobito3807]

Fightcade 2

[@wrightparlaypicks]

@@daisukenojobito3807 how do I get one 🤔.. I love MVC but only have them for them original ps1..

[@daisukenojobito3807]

@@wrightparlaypicks it's an emulator on PC, can't buy it

[@wrightparlaypicks]

@@daisukenojobito3807 damn I need that bruh

[@ItoRolon66]

JA UH "credit card"

[@robertgregg8785]

That first opponent was terrible. 🙄

[@hugejackedman3447]

How DARE you hurt poor Roll like that!? Unsubbed!🤬

[@vxrtxxs1395]

Yo yo yo yo yo 6 min crew

[@treytotreys917]

Air combo!

[@EMO_alpha]

I want a whole VS. Game but its just Ken VS Ryu and its just a bunch of Ken and Ryu's.

[@djlaw56what]

How is he playing online?

[@lounasty69]

Fightcade on pc

[@djlaw56what]

@@lounasty69 sweet thank you

[@thephoenix2038]

Why is Venom blue?

[@Jeffmetal42]

Makes the sprite more readable than if he was black. Even some of the comics/animated tv shows used the same approach cause you loose a lot of detail on a purely black character. Similar to why Batman is blue in the NES game.

[@thephoenix2038]

@@Jeffmetal42 I see

[@JarlStaubhold]

@@thephoenix2038 Take a look at Todd McFarlane art on Venom. Looks so nice.

[@thephoenix2038]

@@JarlStaubhold It really is

[@Jeffmetal42]

It's a bit easier to make characters all/mostly black on a 3D model which is why you'll see way more 3D models with black costumes/etc. On a 2D model it's pretty difficult to make the sprite readable (which is very important in a fighting game) so more often than not, they'll be some shade of blue or dark grey.

[@jfbeast]

The first MVC game had its their laziest game design on Ryu and on their secret characters. Instead of getting Carnage, Red Hulk, Iron Man, and Lilith, we instead only got buffed pallette-swapped characters that already available. Only Roll was different but still has the same lazy gameplay

[@shinsmoke]

You can say the same for Marvel Super Heroes vs Street Fighter. Only Shadow Nash was different while the rest were just buffed palette swapped characters.

[@in4mus85]

@@shinsmoke both awesome games though

[@shinsmoke]

@@in4mus85 I agree.

[@jeremykarwoski6913]

CREDIT CARD!!!

[@Gobidl]

credit carrr

[@TommithThyCommeth1111]

Wow

[@felixthecat1528]

Sup max

[@flaviopimentel4978]

👍😎

[@KingHoDoKaN]

Max… all the hidden characters suck besides GWM & RV. Unless you’re a top player on FC, they all get made to look good. Come run some real matches on FC with ya boy

[@redwolfe7049]

This is why better than watching MVC2 matches with the same nonsense over and over.

[@ptuinsights6487]

First

[@mistadomino]

So max needs to get a doodle NFT. First!

[@din_5817]

or, consider this: no