Miltoniopsis The Fussy One

[@donnacone4714]

Love my Miltoniopsis they get the room with wonderful smell! Informative that I needed good day 🌞🍄

[@jeannechan4911]

Thank you for the information,Roger! My one and only Miltoniopsis is a year old- hasn't bloomed but still alive! I'm watching this vid again to remind myself of its care!!

[@zacharymekhi1224]

Dunno if anyone cares but if you are stoned like me atm then you can stream all the latest movies and series on InstaFlixxer. I've been streaming with my gf for the last couple of weeks :)

[@damienmack7277]

@Zachary Mekhi definitely, been watching on InstaFlixxer for months myself =)

[@taiweannoona1204]

I like you Roger. You have a good attitude about raising orchids. I especially appreciate the bit about not doing panic. Raising orchids could make you crazy and biting your nails in the middle of the night if you don't have a good attitude. You can only do the best you can and that's enough

[@RogersOrchidsGardenandBonsai]

I suppose it's just a way of standing back and remembering that doing your best IS the best you can do but 'knowing' as much as you can about your plant's' needs sure helps.

[@marinamatskova3980]

Thanks Roger for a good reportage!!!

[@RogersOrchidsGardenandBonsai]

You're welcome

[@BenjiNights]

Lovely in U.K. and have amazing success with these beauties

[@glendaurmacher3266]

Roger, I just got a milt.Belle Glade JC/AOS Everglades and it is planted in rock,gravel and it is really happy, Roots growing out of the pot, so I am putting it in a little bigger pot with gravel for the roots growing out of the smaller pot to grow into the gravel in the bigger pot. Am terrible with my camera . Will try to send a photo as she is quite lovely. Thanks for an update on what to do with her temperature wise.

[@RogersOrchidsGardenandBonsai]

Sounds good.

[@GardeningatDouentza]

All good info. I have given up on these though but I do agree that they are very beautiful.

[@RogersOrchidsGardenandBonsai]

Zygos - RIP, but these are hanging in there.

[@maureenhauser9423]

I've got 4 Milt's different types so I'm glad your showing and taking about them but didn't need to hear about them turning there toes up if you do I'll wrong but love them ha ha ha

[@willemh3319]

just did an E&R on the miltonia from my nurse it is on the IC now with new medium roots look very goodd with new growth hoping the best now

[@OrchidudeBcn]

Hey Roger, thanks for another informative and entertaining video! Cheers!

[@RogersOrchidsGardenandBonsai]

Cheers.

[@glendaurmacher3266]

roger, got some more miltoniopsis so am reviewing your old videos. Those black streaks on the leaves, Had some on my plant leaves, and wiped them down with alcohol, every week or so, and they never spread and the leaves are still alive. Don't know if it was pests or virus, but plant still alive and thriving.

[@RogersOrchidsGardenandBonsai]

Miltoniopsis are prone to marks on the leaves - it may be a result of too much heat with too little humidity - I'm not sure. It doesn't seem to do the plants any harm. Some Oncidiums and Brassias are the same.

[@alexandraabraham6698]

Crinkly corrugated leaves are a sure sign of a Miltoniopsis plant needing water. If it has crinkly leaves, it's in need of a good soak. A good tip is to put the plants in clear pots, but to provide extra holes up the sides of the pot, as well. complete immersion in water until everything is wet, allow to drain really well, and then replace in a cool site. Here to help. ;0)

[@RogersOrchidsGardenandBonsai]

And if your plant has little or no roots? - Think before you speak! You are speaking to someone who has been growing orchids for 20 years plus and unfortunately is in a bad mood!!!

[@alexandraabraham6698]

@@RogersOrchidsGardenandBonsai Ok... I'm Sorry. You're absolutely right, I am a total amateur compared to you. I really didn't mean to step on your toes. Apologies. It's just something I picked up from a friend whose orchids are prizewinners, compared to my modest collection. I'll try to gain more experience and knowledge before commenting again. Thanks for the video, though.

[@alexandraabraham6698]

@@RogersOrchidsGardenandBonsai Unfortunately after joining your Facebook page (where you list a number of pre-joining conditions) I rapidly left, because it seems the majority of your members are as bad-tempered and as rude as you are. If this is how you treat novices, it's actually quite shameful. A pity. I shall stick with Orchid girl, who is far more polite, accommodating and informative.

[@RogersOrchidsGardenandBonsai]

@@alexandraabraham6698 Strange how the problem is always 'everyone else'? There are many beginners in the Facebook group and all seem VERY happy. There are many comments here on my channel - perhaps you could have a read of some and the replies they get - and then perhaps, review your comment(s).

[@alexandraabraham6698]

@@RogersOrchidsGardenandBonsai Yes. In this case, it IS somebody else. I apologised to YOU when you had YOUR outburst of a 'bad mood' (your words, not mine!) amd then the people on your Facebook site were rude, patronising and insulting. when I actually went in with a genuine question. So absolutely, in this case, you're damn right it's everyone else. You, and your members. Take it on the chin Roger. You were rude. I suggest, that, rather than remonstrating with me, it would be appropriate for you to ask your members to be a little more polite with new members, however ridiculous the question might seem. It was a legitimate one. Maybe they haven't heard the adage 'the only stupid question is the one you didn't ask'..... Don't put this one back on me, because it definitely is everyone else in this case. But thank you for replying.

[@fionagrace2111]

Hi Roger, I'm so glad you did a video on miltoniopsis. I have one (that's more than enough stress!) and I have a dilemma. It is looking beautifully healthy and still has one flower spike on it in full bloom as well as 2 new growths each around 3 inches long. So, the golden question....do I repot now or wait until spring? Bear in mind, I have had her for about 9 months and the media smells perfectly fresh...hmmm

[@RogersOrchidsGardenandBonsai]

Firstly, I wouldn't worry too much about the blooms - many repot orchids in full bloom and most are ok. The main thing is what is under those new growths - are the roots already showing? When they are about an inch long or thereabouts is good but don't damage them. As long as the rest of the orchid has a reasonable root system and the new roots are showing, you could do it now as there is still some growing season left. But if the media is fine and will last until spring when the next lot of new growths should start, then you could also leave it until then. No direct answer I'm afraid as it's difficult without having direct sight of the orchid.

[@fionagrace2111]

Hmm no new roots showing so I think I'll un-pot it tomorrow and see what's what! Thanks for your input Roger 👍

[@hobbiesorchidgirl3272]

Thanks for sharing this knowledge I learned a lot

[@RogersOrchidsGardenandBonsai]

You're welcome.

[@resilience4lyfe331]

Thank you Roger!

[@ChristopherEPineda]

Good use of your air fryer! lol happy growing!

[@RogersOrchidsGardenandBonsai]

I've gained a couple of those over the years as it's always the top part (the cooking bit) that packs up but it gives me a good sized glass container with handles!

[@gcarson]

This was very informative. I thought at one point you were going to say, if you look at it wrong, you'll kill your plant. Haha! Thanks for sharing :)

[@RogersOrchidsGardenandBonsai]

I must have 'looked at some wrong' in the past as I have lost a few over the years - it's just a matter of finding their comfort zone and they can do really well.

[@agarsorchids7708]

Thanks for sharing, I struggle with them, too, as many of us. Main problem, bought 3 from a rack table, were not healthy to begin with, only 1 survived the summer around here. I decided to only ever buy healthy, strong Miltoniopsis in the future, I have a window for them where summer will be fine for them next year, but to rescue them from the beginning...yeah, not a good idea. They will be kept with my future Masdies, Odontoglossums together. Hopefully!:) A question, how strong the fertiliser for them is good? Heavy feeders do not think, like Oncidiums? Have a nice day! BR, Maria

[@RogersOrchidsGardenandBonsai]

It's sad that so many orchids are sold in poor condition - it puts people off growing them when they die. I feed mine with the lowest levels of fertiliser and flush quite often - they are light feeders - it's the sensitive roots, yet another 'fussy' thing.

[@willemh3319]

what else could i do roger i can not rhrow it away as long i can see root growth it is alive and kicking we have to do anything to pull it through they did wirh me;)

[@Naoma09]

Miltoniopsis...bonsai granite/extra small for bark and extra small charcoal....in a clay pot....stays cool, moist and is free draining

[@RogersOrchidsGardenandBonsai]

Sounds good - I do have some grit I used for my bonsai around somewhere - never thought of including that in an orchid mix - great idea.

[@Naoma09]

I'll shoot you a pic on Facebook of mine. I've found all my oncidium types prefer bonsai grit in my environment to bark which breaks down in less than year here.

[@anamourao2983]

Lets say the best leave I have on mine is like that bending one on your worst one...

[@chanteuse1978]

Thanks for this video! I’ve managed to keep a couple of miltoniopsis alive for the past year, and seem to be doing well in my home (temps 65-72 F, 50-70% humidity). I got two more from the grocery, potted in coco peat (which I think is awful). I repotted them into a moss/bark mix, which is what my other ones like. I was as gentle as I could be. Both freaked out in short order, and leaves and pseudobulbs started dying. One plant didn’t have any roots, and I ended up throwing it. The other had lots of roots, so I don’t know what’s wrong with it?? Certainly a dramatic response to being unhappy though 😂 Any ideas?

[@RogersOrchidsGardenandBonsai]

Could be many things - upset about the changes in environment, delayed reaction to various sets of transport and lack of care where you bought it from, change of media - almost anything will upset these.

[@conradstarks3181]

would egg shells or baking soda help keep the ph neutral?

[@RogersOrchidsGardenandBonsai]

Calcium in any form will raise the Ph. Baking soda is VERY strong - when I add my Kelp to a mix it drops the Ph way too low so I use Baking soda to raise it. In 3 litres of water a tiny bit on the end of my finger brings it back up.

[@kcbknitter]

Can you submerge & soak these? I do that with my other orchids and it's perfect for them. This is my first miltoniopsis.

[@RogersOrchidsGardenandBonsai]

How you water them doesn't matter that much - but they don't like to dry out.

[@kcbknitter]

Thank you, I don't want to kill it right from the get go. 😊

[@E3lxx]

Hi Roger, where do you get your miltoniopsis from? I live in the UK and can't find them anywhere, I also can't find them online in any nurseries in the EU! Totally at loss here

[@RogersOrchidsGardenandBonsai]

Miltoniopsis are normally only offered for sale when in bloom. Most of mine have come from garden centres and DIY stores that sell orchids - they just turn up every now and then. Although 'some' of the mass producers will handle these, they are not as 'sturdy' as other orchid types so are less popular with greater losses before selling.

[@E3lxx]

Roger's Orchids thanks for the response! When do they generally bloom? I have heard spring and autumn but which months in particular?

[@RogersOrchidsGardenandBonsai]

They bloom as the bulbs mature (or just before) and as this take 9-10 months, they can be in bloom anytime of year. Bulbs on these can take longer to mature in the UK Winter as the days are so short.

[@bennetht]

I’ve just bought one and a cattleya from Dobbies garden centre, they hadn’t put the species of orchid so had to research. Only got 3 flowers on it and only 1 flower spike.

[@E3lxx]

Heather Bennett I found a Newton falls at the local garden centre last month!! Never seen a cattleya or a paph though, I doubt they'll ever sell those here

[@nmsoberguy]

Fussy indeed 😜

[@OliversGreenhouse]

I have killed a few of these! hope that makes you feel better about your luck with Zygo's

[@RogersOrchidsGardenandBonsai]

The theory is : once I find out why they are difficult for me, then they won't be difficult any more!!! But until then, no more zygos.

[@orchidmaniac234]

Thanks for the video, although I can't fully agree with everything you've said here. I actually keep my Miltoniopsis wet all the time, and even water twice a day on hot summer days. And of course that means repotting every autumn, so Orchiata bark would make no sense here. Anyway, it's time for me to repot mine, so I'm gonna make a video about it soon. And one more thing, nitrogen compounds (nitrates, nitrites and ammonium) are harmful to people, so if the tap water is intended for consumption, nitrates are only allowed in very small quantities in the water. So I'm guessing the TDS reading you get is basically calcium and magnesium salts. But you should be able to find that information by contacting your water provider, they have to make this info public. Sorry for the long post, and happy growing!

[@RogersOrchidsGardenandBonsai]

My water quality analysis is quite good although a bit 'hard' giving a higher PH than I would like (7.5) but there is 25mg/l of sulphate and nitrate, 2 of potassium and magnesium and 85 of calcium. What's left after my carbon filter has had a go at it I don't know, but it brings the TDS reading down from 270 to about 160 - this also gets the PH down to below 7 which is better. Everyone who successfully grows milts probably has different environments and adjusts their culture accordingly. After you've had yours more than a few months and have done your repots and got them through a Winter, I'll be interested to see how they have done. I'm not sure all of mine will make it but I hope they do as they really are one of my favourites. Don't worry about long posts - I enjoy reading the comments I get.

[@orchidmaniac234]

Actually, one of my Miltoniopsis lives in my care for two years now, and it's doing reasonably good, given into consideration that it was nearly rootless when I got it, and that it had to spend two winters indoors where the humidity is barelly 35%. The only problem I have with it is that I've kept it a bit too bright this summer and the leaves got a bit pale with a red tinge to them. But as you have said, everyones environment is different and we all grow our orchids the way we can.

[@RogersOrchidsGardenandBonsai]

Anyone who can keep these beauties going however they do it, gets a big tick - I have lost a few of these. I can get away with my high temps in Summer - but only just. Otherwise, I don't do 'too bad' with them. I just hope that couple of days of 'dry' hasn't set them back - a few weeks will tell - I don't normally let them get that dry.

[@orchidmaniac234]

They might be stressed, but they should bounce back. My summers aren't any better. I have quite inconsistent temperatures, but it's not unusual to have a few weeks of 30 C or even more. That is exactly why I said you need to keep them watered, even if they are still wet. If the outside temperature is high, the temperature inside the pot is high too, and if you run a lot of water through the pot it will cool the roots down. Thus the orchid will only have one stress factor (outside heat) to deal with as opposed to two (heat and drought). Or at least this technique helped me to go through several summers without loosing my milts. But you are right, they are not easy to grow, and I sometimes think that Zygopetalums are much easier and more forgiving than these. At least they don't require such high humidity to begin with, and most of home growers struggle to keep it high enough for Miltoniopsis.

[@RogersOrchidsGardenandBonsai]

I like the idea of pouring cool water through the pots several times a day during the heat-waves - I'm around most days so that would be easy for me to do. As long as the media drains, it should be fine - great idea and I will try that next Summer (if they get through the Winter ok that is).

[@blancaacosta333]

The Fussy One??? Should be: Fifty Ways To Kill Your Miltoniopsis. Definitely not an orchid for my region. Thanks for the advice.

[@RogersOrchidsGardenandBonsai]

Mine just have to put up with the summer - once passed that, they don't do bad. Of course, they do need to go into the summer in a healthy state otherwise - RIP.