Mini Bike Clutch Brake Installation

[@TheAngeryIrishman]

It's next to impossible to find a brake for my mini bike. I NEVER thought or a clutch brake. This is super helpful

[@RMAGarage]

Glad it helped!

[@JSCB-365]

Down side is when you throw the chain you no longer have a brake. I found this pretty quick. Same when you break the chain

[@Devonfitness123]

@@JSCB-365unless you have another break like he does

[@mrmarkthompson2361]

Father & Son Working Together Is Great For You Son. Had Minibikes Growing Up, Later Dirt Bikes ATVs & Still Riding At 62. Recently Getting Back Into Minibikes Yo Relive My Youth. Building New Taco Minibike, But It Only Has Scumb Brake Like Yours. Look Into Adding Additional Brake System & Saw Your Video. Thanks For Details For Installation & Lead To Old Minibike Warehouse, I have purchased parts from them in the past. Your Son Is Lucky To Have A Dad Like You. Sincerely, Mr. T.

[@RMAGarage]

Thanks for the kind words! Glad to have helped.

[@prostreetgsxr]

The bright side to the original foot brake it is the most reliable brake that there is. It will never fail. I used a band brake in the 70s on my first minibike and it works great unless the chain comes off or the cable gets pulled through the clamp.

[@RMAGarage]

We have decided to leave it on for your reason. It just makes good sense. Thanks for the comment.

[@normbeck20]

That brake style doesn't stop you if chain breaks or falls off !!! I'd keep the scrub brakes also find or make better mount for the spring so it doesn't bounce up & down

[@RMAGarage]

Thanks for the feedback. My "DAD" vote it to leave it on as well. Stiffer spring would definitely stop the bounce.

[@TonyScot-c2k]

Ay bro jus watch this do you think that kit fits for a 212cc predator engine

[@RMAGarage]

I checked out the website and is says that it fits Predator Motors so I would say yes on the 212. But make sure whoever you buy it from that you can return it if it does not fit. Thanks for the question.

[@elmexicanitonieto6475]

Perfect proyect brother ,can You help to me with zize of band ? My clutch is same like You have . Thanks and so sorry for My English I from Honduras

[@RMAGarage]

Can you try again with your questions. My apologies but I do not understand?

[@clownytheruthless5477]

That is a nice pretty mini bike your son has right there learly that's pretty cool you guys upgraded the mini bike with the brake bands breaks not just only back but also upgrading the way you'll be able to ride it and feel much comfortable with it and on top your tires are going to last way longer then usual that's pretty cool pretty wicked well I'm glad your son will be enjoying his bike much more clearly I speak for it comfortable cuz i own one of my own ther every nice and great bikes injoy 👌

[@stclairstclair]

Thank you SO much for posting this video!!! I'm an old mechanic and have just completed converting a Razor kids kart to gas, Ive been going round and round in my head about what brake system I was going to fabricate, Drum/disc hydraulic/cable Tonight Im thinking can't I just use my hot clutch as a brake drum? (As I'm very limited on space) Then I find this very kit on Amazon for 60 bucks and has deformed parts, So I'm ordering a 4" brake band for 10 bucks and fabricating the brackets, I already have the rest, I will use the leftover 40 bucks on alcohol...

[@RMAGarage]

Glad we were able to help

[@cognizantray6069]

Didn't know clutch brakes existed thanks exactly what I needed for my custom bicycle 🚲

[@RMAGarage]

I'm glad you found the video helpful.

[@JSCB-365]

Nice video, done indoors with a decent camera operator

[@JSCB-365]

I had just built my monkey bike in the pits before installing mine. I was in a rush trying to make it to tech.

[@RMAGarage]

Thanks for the comment.

[@joshmatthews6493]

i gotta fully built 212 on my mini and the scrub brake is barely enough to keep it from inching forward when it gets hot def gonna do this

[@RMAGarage]

My son just purchased a mini bike with a 212 and it has a disk brake. I can see why. Lots of power.

[@joshmatthews6493]

@@RMAGarage yea especially w the billet piston cam and heavier valve springs they rip

[@DevonFerguson.]

Nice video, good to see a brake demonstration which answered my questions.

[@RMAGarage]

Glad we were able to help.

[@thomashoyle3961]

I'm curious how long clutch will last with extra heat like that added

[@RMAGarage]

Good Point. We'll keep you posted.

[@jessez5536]

@@RMAGarage what's the link

[@RMAGarage]

@@jessez5536 I have not done the follow-up video yet. My son has not been riding it because of work. I want to wait until we have a few miles on it to make it meaningful.

[@yoursuburbanredneck2844]

What brand bike is that i have the same one but i dont know what is is

[@Drywall19]

Where do i find a rear brake system for the mini bike it has a "rotor" lol already but we need everything else please help lol thanks

[@RMAGarage]

Not sure. All the one I found are like mine.

[@RileyTheMonster299]

And that just seems like it would burn the clutch up not to mention it would be really hard on the crank seal and everything literally connected to the clutch. I mean how did it work when you were done? I really like the idea simple clean and effective I will say that that I mean how harsh was it on the motor and the clutch? I mean I guess it couldn't be too bad if they make a kit for it

[@RMAGarage]

I agree with the extra stress of the motor and clutch. We do not ride the mini bike much, but if we did, the clutch would definitely wear out faster. As far as the engine seal, only time will tell. The brake is capable of locking up the rear wheel so it is very affective. thanks for the comment.

[@BRZ_BOY]

The clutch bell is only engaged when on power. So when braking the force is only going into the sprocket and chain. If you were on power and braking it would go into the engine.

[@robkerz2610]

Great video by the way, thank you for your info. Will be doing this to mine soon.

[@RMAGarage]

Glad it helped. Thanks for the comment.

[@chazp691]

Hello. Great video. Do you know what engines this brake kit works on? Universal?

[@RMAGarage]

I do not believe this is universal. If I remember correctly, this was for predator motors only. You can call OMB Warehouse if you have a different motor (www.ombwarehouse.com). Thanks for the question.

[@Wab2007]

Hey man I got 2 questions. So mine no matter how I adjust it it scrubs the band some. Will it wear down the contact area over time so I no longer have to worry? And the cable slips through the thing often. Do you have any tips to keep it in place besides tightening it real hard

[@RMAGarage]

1. Our band did rub a little and then worn down enough not to rub. We did not see this as a problem. 2. We ended up using a bicycle cable feral to hold the cable in place. You know the kind that is used in cable pull brakes. That what worked for us.

[@Wab2007]

@ ok thank you sir

[@Reaperchild9]

what is that is that back brake thats is on the back tire called

[@RMAGarage]

Scrub Brake.

[@silvestrepalacios9009]

Have a 1969 cat 300X with no breaks not sure if they had any I’ve seen old catalogs and only the bigger model had breaks i guess anyways these breaks really helped !

[@RMAGarage]

great!

[@saschkram3278]

Can u link me the clutch i have the Same one but it doesnt work very well

[@RMAGarage]

The website we purchased the clutch was (www.ombwarehouse.com). I do not know the specs of the at this point because it has been a long time since we purchased the clutch. If I find out I will update this comment.

[@rickmcgloin1816]

i put a clutch band brake on my preditor engine, works great.i recommend a chain guide too so the chain dont come off and disable the clutch brake

[@RMAGarage]

Chain Guide is a good idea. Thanks for the comment.

[@manuelulloa4982]

May I suggest a slick tire instead of that clutch guard

[@RMAGarage]

Not a bad idea...Where we ride, I little tread helps a lot.

[@manuelulloa4982]

@@RMAGarage that’s right to each is own just thought I’d give a an idea to throw around

[@RMAGarage]

@@manuelulloa4982 Thank You.

[@chinooky5625]

My mini bike does about 37 mph, do you think this would be enough to slow/stop the mini bike? I have a 1960 bonanza with the scrub brake currently.

[@RMAGarage]

to be honest, I don't know 100%. We have had our pretty fast and the brake is more than capable. I would say yes at the this point. It most definatly will be better on the rear tire. Not as much wear from the scrub brake. Also we left our scrub brake on as a back up. If the chain comes off, no brakes.

[@mrmarkthompson2361]

Use Both Brake Systems For Quick Stops, Clutch Brake For Easy Slowing Down Stops. As Of You Hit Clutch Brake Really Hard, You Can Possibly Snap Chain & Be Stranded. God Speed Your Rides.

[@RMAGarage]

Thanks for the comment.

[@silvestrepalacios9009]

I go 50mph on my cat 300X and I’m 200lb and I’m able to stop just fine don’t expect the world but there more then capable also if your chain pops and your doing 50 aim for the grass cause you while lose all breaking capabilities 😅

[@javiercortez3879]

Have you ever though about buying a predator 212

[@RMAGarage]

My son wanted it but were going to have to modify it because it would fit in the frame. Also, we thought it would be to much power for the size of the bike.

[@stclairstclair]

Ive seen more then one mini bike with a powerful engine, Every owner called theirs a death trap, It actually takes the fun out.

[@RMAGarage]

@@stclairstclair I agree 100%. It not bullet fast, but fun to ride.

[@whatposterman1222]

I have a predator 212 on my mini bike, which is why I was watching this video. Just installed my brake package like this. It is one scary ride. I haven’t clocked it yet as I didn’t have enough yard room without brakes. Very quick with stock 212.

[@stclairstclair]

What Posterman, You dont need to guess, If you go look up gear any ratio calculators for go karts and mini bikes it will tell you, Put in your two sprockets, wheel size and 3600rpm as a standard rpm it works very well.

[@prostreetgsxr]

I love the style of that frame! What kind is it?

[@RMAGarage]

We know it is a "Bird" but not sure if there was a specific model name. Thanks for the comment.

[@scottatchameleongarage1583]

Nice job. I bought the same kit for my mini bike (1972 Ruttman) I would recommend painting the steel.

[@pbedrook]

Wat you mean by paint the steel? Im trying about getting brake kit

[@scottatchameleongarage1583]

@@pbedrook your brake kit doesn't come painted. I recommend printing the steel brackets.

[@scottatchameleongarage1583]

@@pbedrook . I just posted a video on my channel to clear things up. kzbin.info/www/bejne/foDdoZKsaLukapo

[@jeepwrangled79]

How did you make that header?

[@BRZ_BOY]

Do you mean the flange to the pipe for the exhaust?

[@jeepwrangled79]

@@BRZ_BOY No like can you buy that header

[@BRZ_BOY]

@@jeepwrangled79 The tube and thread piece for the muffler can be bought from Robinson Torque Racing. The pipe is originally for a 212cc predator but I asked them not to weld the flange that came with it for a 212. I bought a 79cc flange from affordable go karts that would allow me to use the pipe and would bolt properly to the engine. The pipe size is the same for both flanges. I had the flange and thread piece welded by a friend. Was really the only way to get and exhaust that fit the way I wanted.

[@robkerz2610]

I like your handle grips, where did you get them from?

[@RMAGarage]

They are dirt bike grips. Pro Taper pillow top lite grips. www.protaper.com/category/29/grips/pillow-top-lite

[@omarvalencia5060]

Hey boss you think this would fit my 212cc predator?

[@RMAGarage]

Yes. Check out the photos on this website:(www.ombwarehouse.com/centrifugal-clutch-band-brake-and-brake-lever-kit.html). It shows the kit on a 212 cc

[@yungdraco2414]

Can sombody pls tell me were to get scrub breaks from

[@RMAGarage]

Thanks for the question. Scrub breaks are something of original equipment that are often welded to the bike when is was first made. I have never seen a replacement scrub break that one could buy.

[@yungdraco2414]

@@RMAGarage okay thanks i have a coleman with a 212 and i seen that scrub breaks are very cool but i dee that i dont think i can put them on this

[@constantine4202]

Anybody know the size of the bolts that go into the side cover

[@RMAGarage]

Sorry for the delayed reply. I believe the bolts holding on the side cover are 1/4" SAE.

[@cognizantray6069]

Just got mines today omb Warehouse here we go🎉

[@RMAGarage]

Let me know how it goes!

[@christianarcos4333]

Does anybody knows if this fit a Honda gc160?

[@RMAGarage]

I do not know..........anyone know?

[@christianarcos4333]

@@RMAGarageI think so it has two bolts on top.

[@FortniteGaming101]

Do you think these brakes are better than hydrolic

[@RMAGarage]

I would have to say no. Hydraulic disc offer more stopping power and better modulation. That being said, price, performance and effectiveness is hard to argue with our current setup.

[@summerypond]

3 months later hows it holding up? I'm looking to go this route on my mini bike vs the stock disk brake

[@RMAGarage]

With my son in college and no time to ride, we really don't have any follow-up info yet. We should have a sense of durability in a few months. My son did read this comment and said he would go with disc if he could. I am not sure what mini bike you have, but a disc brake should stop better than this clutch brake.

[@summerypond]

@@RMAGarage monster moto mmb80. The disk and caliper are very small and the brake pad wears out after about 3 rides

[@summerypond]

@@RMAGarage the stock disk brake has never been strong enough to skid the rear tire

[@RMAGarage]

@@summerypond I just looked it up the mini bike. That is surprising. We were able to lock up the wheel no problem with the clutch brake. Must be a weak caliper design. Or the brake pads are not the proper material....too soft. If you have the stock engine, you may need to double check fitment on the clutch break. I am not familiar with that engine.

[@RMAGarage]

Or you can go with the predator 79. It is a great motor.

[@ethanhoward4956]

what size engine?

[@RMAGarage]

79cc

[@pbedrook]

How did it hold up ? Did last long?

[@RMAGarage]

As far as the mechanics are concerned, the brake is holding up fine and shows no signs of breakage or wear. My son has been at college so he has not ridden for quite some time. l am not sure how the long the actual brake pad will last since he hasn't been on it much.

[@nathanplant8212]

Great video. I watched to install my clutch brake. Very helpful!

[@RMAGarage]

Glad to have helped.

[@playboyhj702]

Whats this bike called

[@RMAGarage]

We know it is a "Bird" but not sure if there was a specific model name. Thanks for the comment.

[@michaelkassel5816]

This is great - is that the Predator 212 engine or the 79cc version?

[@RMAGarage]

This is the 79cc version

[@michaelkassel5816]

@@RMAGarage Thanks. That's the one I want as well! Great video!

[@RMAGarage]

Thanks

[@jayorleman1707]

great video, very helpful, we got it on our go Kart now and works Great . thanks for the tips!

[@RMAGarage]

Your Welcome

[@bigrod0069]

I just bought a mini bike today, it has this same setup, I tried it out today, when I hit the brake it made the chain jump on the teeth, maybe all I need to do is tighten the chain and it will be fine, I am 210 lbs. also. Maybe it would be fine with a kid , but after seeing it do that made me not really like the idea that much.

[@RMAGarage]

Definitely tighten the chain.........and stay away from steep hills if the brake is iffy. We are keeping our scrub brake as a backup.

[@ernestoalfaro1923]

Bad idea if chain breaks

[@RMAGarage]

Excellent Point!!!!!!!!!

[@jimrogers4118]

Thanks for posting this. What motor is that?

[@RMAGarage]

Thanks, Predator 79cc from harbor freight.

[@taylora2208]

Shorter spring will help the bouncing

[@RMAGarage]

Good Idea, We will give that a try.

[@Batstringstyle]

When in doubt ''lock tight"

[@RMAGarage]

Absolutely!

[@geeladuch8793]

Just need to smack tab with hammer. No need to drill it out. Cool foremost frame from jc pennys

[@RMAGarage]

Thanks for the comment.

[@biloxirebel]

Thank You! This is very helpful!

[@RMAGarage]

You're Welcome. Thanks for the comment.

[@billykitchens5090]

I'm pretty sure I'm not the first one but you do realize that no you do not absolutely under any circumstances want to take the original break off because guess what if the chain breaks at high speed he has no break

[@RMAGarage]

Thanks for the comment. We left it on.

[@marqmarlon3525]

🤔 interesting

[@AMadrigal72]

Installed on mine. I love it

[@RMAGarage]

Awesome!

[@contraband1543]

I would have lost it if he hit the mailbox near the end lmao

[@RMAGarage]

If he would hit the mailbox, we may have gotten more views. LOL.

[@ItsJoeBull]

I can tell he’s a newbie no one that works on mini bikes try’s and start it over without pulling it a little

[@RMAGarage]

You are So Right! LOL!

[@technovikingBubba]

All good, till chain falls off.

[@RMAGarage]

I agree...we are leaving the foot brake on for now.

[@thomaswillie6120]

Thanks a lot

[@RMAGarage]

You're Welcome

[@projectlonewolf8674]

Not bad , lots of potential here

[@masongettman1687]

yoooi

[@masongettman1687]

i have a fiesta too.. but i just did the same thing on my mini bike too