Mini Cooper SE 54 kWh charging test vs Tesla, VW and Stellantis

[@BenEngel1961]

It seems Isabelle is a wise girl when she refuses to join in on the Tesla cheering 🤭 Thanks for this sports game commentary 😁

[@Bimmer_i4_M50]

Will pickup our new Mini SE on friday. Really looking forward to it. Great little fun car, which in my case will never see a HPC charger, so charging power means nothing to me. Even if the Mini could only charge with 11 kW max I would prefer it to the Tesla.

[@patrickf2386]

I totally agree. The results are disappointing, but honestly fine for what is basically a commuter/city car. Also here (in Switzerland), used Teslas have dropped in value so badly, they're almost unsellable. 4-5 year old Minis Cooper SE's now often have the same residual value than equivalent Teslas, despite the small battery. And remember, those Teslas cost 50-60k back then. A friend of mine paid 65k back in 2019, and it's now almost completely worthless.

[@michaelrichter2528]

@@patrickf2386 That is interesting. Do you happen to know why Teslas dropped so hard? Personally I would always take a Model 3 over a Mini Cooper. Is there a high supply of used Teslas, is the association with Elon a problem or do used Teslas have reliability issues?

[@patrickf2386]

@@michaelrichter2528 There's several reasons imo. I do personally know of two people who sold their cars because of Elon. In addition to that, the Tesla dealer network/warranty and quality issues and repeated issues with FSD put some people off as well. All of my friends, who were early adopters, are now driving German EV's and they are super happy. The constant price slashing policy of Tesla also doesn't help with stable used car prices. You can now get a brand new Highland for around 40k, so why would you look for a 1-2 year old one, for 25-30k? This drags down prices of older Teslas too.

[@lutzbroska880]

The JCW Aceman will be such a fun little rocket, really happy with that curve!

[@sameth9582]

When will you present KIA EV3 LR. It would be quite interesting..

[@Rufus2005f1]

I feel like the mg4 would kick ass against this competition

[@noproblem386]

ID3 Pro has an updated battery with faster charging

[@Kortusmaximus]

But id3 pro has a bigger battery size.

[@OenkePoenke]

@@Kortusmaximus all battery versions are faster now, see my seperate comment

[@OenkePoenke]

All IDs have faster charging now. 10..80% charging times have fallen from more than 30 minutes to, in the case of ID.3: Pure: 25m, Pro: 24m, Pro S: 28m, GTX: 26m That's since the second tech-only facelift this year with software 5.0+ in all cars. And that's numbers from the configurator, conformed by all tests I've seen or read (and I watch/read a lot)

[@rmkkkk]

New ID3 has faster charging battery, 180 kW

[@yilmazdeniz4435]

with the 62 kwh package ?

[@rmkkkk]

@@yilmazdeniz443562 it's 160. 77 kWh 180. Still better than what Bjørn showed

[@OenkePoenke]

max power is just one parameter, what counts is the charging curve (it's flatness). You should know from Bjørn's videos. I don't give a flying anything on the max power. All ID/MEB battery versions are faster now, see my seperate comment. Slowest 10..80% 28 minutes, fastest 24 minutes. Pure is 25m now.

[@yilmazdeniz4435]

hopefully the model Y blade is not presented :) similar price with the model 3 :)

[@konsul2006]

Rigged? Well, how do we know if the charging station is working optimally? Are we safe to say they output max kW during the test?

[@OenkePoenke]

obviously you don't know about Bjørn's testing methods. He's recording as many sessions as he can get and takes the fastest one. And also explains if there have been exceptions, and why.

[@antoniocirino8444]

You cannot compare a Tesla that has more space for cooling and 6kWh more battery in a very long car. The mini cooper should be compared with id3, 500e and 208 (ec4x is equivalent) where you have so much battery in a smaller and compact vehicle.

[@davidglieder8862]

An id3 is waaay larger than 500e or mini. And considering the mini doesn’t have a frunk, it has more than enough space for cooling.

[@ReximPL]

I think Tesla is here because it has similar price (at least in Norway I think)

[@OenkePoenke]

@@davidglieder8862 true, and I gave you a thumbs up for that, but ID.3 in all battery versions is much faster since the second facelift this year, see my seperate comment.

[@tridruankham2657]

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[@PiotrKurnat]

Do you think that forcing people to drive ev is correct? Is it against freedom of choice?

[@callistoscali4344]

If cheaper and people choose to, it is freedom of choice.

[@ZleFox]

of course it is. duh. You will see now in USA, when the D.O.G.E. department forces everyone to drive tesla lol

[@John_S_NL]

In EU it is a democracy, so its the choice of the majority. You dont have to drive EV, you can still drive ICE cars.

[@PiotrKurnat]

@ yes but we hear a lot about eu banning ICE in 10 years, forcing people to drive EV. I do not think that suddenly people can afford to buy EV. Considering price

[@PiotrKurnat]

@ but I will not be able to buy it after some time I mean new ICE because somebody said so