ALL KROOT ARMY??? - T'au vs Astra Militarum Warhammer 40k 10th Edition Battle Report Ep 7

[@Avangerification]

Nice BR. I just want to point out that Kroot don't have the army rule "For the Greater good" on their datasheets so they don't get to use the Tau Army rule at all. As far as how it works pick 2 units 1 gets +1 BS(guided) the other doesn't(Observer), Then repeat pairs as you can. The daisy chain thing was something that happened early in 10th but GW finally squashed it and its not legal.

[@kirbyball97]

They do have it. They have T'au empire in their datasheet so they count as having it. it's under faction keyword.

[@MrDUCKMAN5555]

​@@kirbyball97they don't. The faction ability is not base on keyword but if they have for the greater good ability on their datasheet. This is the same for all armies

[@WingsaberE3]

Just like Kastellan robots don’t get the admech army ability unless you take the specific detachment.

[@lukapavicevic335]

They lack the ability! Completely forgot that one for this game folks, sorry about that!

[@magnos_decimus]

KROOT revolt against the Tau battle report needs to be a thing that happens!

[@morzorkatvfm]

Revenge for the 4th Sphere expansion.

[@ajejebrazorf1888]

Sounds cool

[@RickPlumb]

Seconded!

[@pikminmaster2165]

I do agree with you Matt; we NEED new/more representation for T'au Auxiliaries!

[@cornucopiaofpleasure2988]

Wow, those Kroot are gorgeous! They really pop on the table, and have only reinforced my idea to paint an army of these carnivorous aliens as different parrot species!

[@joshwheeker7754]

I really enjoy the Kroot paint scheme. This is a super fun battle report.

[@dylan9025]

You know, i really love mwg's focus on narrative and non-competitive games. I feel like that's a rarity for bigger 40k channels, so thank you! As an ascetic Stillmaniac, i appreciate the story-based approach.

[@ChickenSims]

The Daisy Chaining referenced in the video was one interpretation of the original RAW, as the Core Rules narrowly defined eligibility to shoot based on a few specific criteria that did not include whether that unit had already been selected to shoot that turn. It was tied solely to a) whether the unit had advanced or fallen back and b) whether it was in engagement range of enemy models (with exceptions). Two major tournament circuits (WTC and ITC) made opposite rulings on this question, which only served to emphasize how unclear the original RAI was. The GW Rules Commentary eventually clarified their intent by making it explicit that a unit was no longer considered Eligible to Shoot after it has already shot, and thus Daisy Chaining died.

[@GM_MorganV]

I love all the little LARPing, hunching over to eat the bone and the dumb Stalone face. Just nerds rolling dice. Love it!

[@agollumcalledgandalf]

The Abe's Oddysey theme works great for the Kroot They also kinda remind me of Privateer Press' troll guys

[@wolvie90]

Most people I've seen call it the "Avatar" look but I think Abe's Oddysee is a much funnier way of describing it.

[@serahquinn7123]

Tank shock works when you make a successful charge with a vehicle model "When: Your Charge phase. Target: One Vehicle from your army. Effect: Until the end of the phase, after your unit ends a charge move, select one enemy unit within engagement range of it, then select one melee weapon from your unit it is equipped with. Roll a number of D6 equal to that weapon's strangth characteristic. If that strength is greater than that target's toughness characteristic, roll two additional d6. For each 5+ that enemy unit suffers 1 mortal wound (to a maximum of 6 mortal wounds)" This is just to correct what Matthew was saying about it only being before your unit declares the charge

[@WhenYouGoMadd]

This map you've created for this battle is beautiful. And well done on the lore/setting for the objectives. 10 out of 10 design.

[@facelift.]

The room and table setup is so sick.beautiful armies too!

[@Apollo_Actual]

Tank shock happens after the charge move not before the charge. Not sure what you’re quoting when you say, “when a unit is selected to charge” because that’s not in the rule.

[@dylan9025]

1:42:00 ahhhhh, excellent two towers reference, matt, im pickin up what you're puttin down

[@machinegunn15]

i do enjoy this new style of batrep but i feel like the previous version with handcams was perfection it felt so good looked so good might be nostalgia but either way keep up the amazing work

[@darioriviezzo2332]

Color scheme for kroot skin?

[@sarico7827]

Love it! Let's say you got rekrooted, for other fun ideas Kroot/tau empire vs genstealer cult or nids. Kind like alien vs predator let's go. Or even one more space wolves vs Kroot. Wolf vs Raven! Or Kroottox vs thunder wolfs.

[@EdgarClay]

Hoping the best for Miniwargaming!

[@ccgwestbourne]

I always thought Kroot looked like Abe from Abe's Odyssey and his friends

[@michaelmcnamara3190]

The new Avatar movie looks sick, James Cameron got nothing on this, but seriously guys this was great 👍 27:57

[@oscarluckin1625]

Do Kroot get for the greater good faction ability? I didn’t think they did

[@ChickenSims]

They don't, it was misplayed.

[@lukapavicevic335]

They do not! This was a mistake in the video

[@samiwanski5000]

Kroot do not use guided/ovserve. Kroot instead have their own detachment rule where they receive +1 to hit (shooting or melee) against a target that is below starting strength. And +1 to wound to a unit that is below half starting strength.

[@terryglidden5007]

Guiding is only for units with For the Greater Good, which Kroot don't have, even the T'au Ethereal unit don't have that key word.

[@palin1016]

Did the rule change in the Codex? Because the index rule was that if you have the Tau keyword you could guide. If the Kroot can't guide them they don't have an army rule and just get a detachment rule and I don't think that's the case

[@terryglidden5007]

@@palin1016Well that is a good question, I based it on other factions only able to use Army Rules if they had the proper keyword. AND Kroot and Vespid have never been able to benefit from Marker Lights in the past releases (6th on) unless they were attached to the Dal'yth Sept back in 8th.

[@sreggad]

@@palin1016 That is correct. Kroot don't have an army rule. Only units that have the faction ability "For the greater good" can use the ability and not all units have it. This is true in other factions too. Genestealer cult has the same issue. I think it's pretty dumb to have "army rules" that the whole of the army doesn't have.

[@ingo145]

Kroot can not guide units or can be guided by other units. They dont have the greater good keyword!

[@lukapavicevic335]

TRUEEEEEE

[@Anduie]

Catachan Kasrkin? That sounds kind of cool, like a new Kill Team.

[@Astartesparty]

Was funny to watch Luca an Matt learn the kroot rules why they play 😂 love how un serious this channel is wish more people in the community didn’t act like gate keepers . Keep it up guys

[@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475]

Always nice for GW to actually acknowledge the T'au is a Confederation of races instead of just Gundam.

[@dizzymcfizzy]

RIP vespids ☠️

[@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475]

​@@dizzymcfizzyFear not! They could still give the Stingys some love at some point!

[@aazreaal]

And they did! ​@@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475

[@felixmichael2904]

All Catachan Army!!! Beautiful!!!!

[@Fritos2k6]

Great Video, what are the larger tree scatter terrains? Are they scratch build or are they sold ?

[@Dylfunkle]

This is literally my perfect match up, I want both of these armies so bad!

[@lukapavicevic335]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@Dylfunkle]

@@lukapavicevic335 every time, homie.

[@masonbrilliantba]

Goo kroot goo!!!!!!!!

[@terryglidden5007]

Can you use the reinforcement strat on the last guy when he was Battle Shocked?

[@GoldBawls]

Tau should incorporate the Zoat race. A big, armoured, reptilian centaur bullet sponge lumbering up the middle would be cool.

[@MightyWolve]

Getting Avatar vibes with those blue kroot.

[@conrradotorres4653]

Space Vietnam all over again

[@brandtdrake2231]

Yes all kroot army

[@markberrios6629]

I remember destroying Steve's all kroot army with my pirate Orks a few years ago 😂

[@lukapavicevic335]

MARRKKKKK

[@markberrios6629]

@@lukapavicevic335 LUKAAAAA!

[@lordravenblade]

Guard don’t ever get Lethal Hits on Overwatch from the detachment rule. When they Remain Stationary they gain it until the end of the current turn. Since Remain Stationary is a declared action on your own movement phase it can’t ever trigger on the oppponent’a turn.

[@Sylvoster]

These Kroots are really awesome, is there a place where I can find the color scheme ?

[@josephtanner750]

You don't get the +1 until the unit finishes their entire shooting, because all shooting happens instantly at the same time. Same reason Thunderstrike speeder doesn't get +1 to wound on it's other weapon profiles.

[@Dewoy1]

I m in love with your big trees, where did you get them from?

[@lukapavicevic335]

Aquarium Terrain! hahaha

[@justinalexanderroth3201]

I feel like I just watched Luka playing this exact army. Oh yeah. Early 10th edition vault battle report. I did just watch Luka with this army.

[@allenw794]

So can Kroot use the Tau spotter rules now or is it only when they're using the Kroot chapter tactic?

[@adamlaux9088]

Kroot don't get greater good.

[@adamlaux9088]

So no guiding kroot

[@riyoriyote]

Every BR from every channel forgets the Hellhound has a 2+ save and not a 3+ save ;_; Also I know it's faster but it's a bit cheaty to hit with the attacks from all models, just to get your target below strength, then hit with all the extra attacks. You should do the models one at a time (attacks/extra attacks) if you're going to fish for buffs mid combat with different characteristic weapons like that. In this case you're outright cheating by pooling all models with one of their weapons (that already has +1 wound and would otherwise be a waste) to acquire the buff as surely as possible then cycling back to do the other weapon (dealing higher damage) once you're buffed.

[@maijin007]

Always the best lookin tables

[@Supernovafilmstudios]

Warhammer in the dark

[@piotrpalacz4811]

I have an impression that the battlefield could be a little better lit. I mean there is not enough light? Or is it only me? Anyway, nice bat rep!

[@trajanfidelis]

Kroot is love kroot is life

[@PMMagro]

BEAUTIFUL!

[@CreepingTerror]

I'm pretty sure the Catachan flesh-shaper is just their steroid dealer!

[@calumdeighton]

You guys had to replay/act the Battle of Pandora from the James Cameron Avatar Movie. I have one order for the Imperial Forces on world. "Nuke the planet."

[@TheRealKyle]

you don't get lethal from born soldiers in your opponents turn for astra as it states until the end of the turn gain lethal (not end of the battle round) also kroot don't gain tau rule of the greater good

[@thecheesemaster2967]

Hellhounds have a 2+ save

[@AllbinP]

Close game in the end :D

[@richardlamb7791]

Did you not pay the electricity bill?

[@ShonenXIV]

Beat Matt - All Kroot vs his Nids

[@DamBrooks]

Can’t believe that virus bombs are not in the game anymore 😢

[@merumboah5790]

I've never seen Luka roll so poorly and Matt roll so many 5+ dodges..

[@deathlytree434]

Wish there was sone movement from failed charges and better moral system

[@dylan9025]

Yeah 10th feels so dumbed and stripped down compared to others, def not my favorite

[@garethsteel2893]

Why do you guys play in the dark now?

[@danielbob2628]

They're shy

[@crusadergaming7695]

no iron hand straken or sly marbo I'm disappointed

[@dominicl5862]

I was like ahh dang, he's really gonna overwatch when he's got 2cp and a 20man blob tagged in combat with only 7 dudes left, about to face his mega combat combo... And even his opponent was drilling homeboy the entire game with sly little comments "Im gonna save my 2cp to reinforce my big unit!" 💀Probably one of the biggest mistakes of Guard 10th index, you gotta play around reinforcements, especially with your 20 man blobs and elites. Overwatch is just not good unless you spec into it. Guard for example: A chimera with double heavy flamer and double flamer out the hatch (catachans), 4 torrent weapons minimum, plus all that lasgun dakka. Or MAYBE a squad of heavy bolter wt, hitting on +4 with their special rule and sustained hits on 6. Otherwise leave overwatch in the trash. Rather just get into the rp that my guys are blasting away as the enemy charges in. I don't get why people say oh don't optimize your play its dumb, waste of time, but then near the end they do all these calculations and hypotheticals to figure out how the game ends 2:03:30 And all that movement, all those shots, charges, units, OC, it all trickles down to the end. I've never heard Luca's perspective on long grinding rules and how it makes the game last longer which he prefers. I love that. Otherwise I love the table, love the models, love the characters cheers. Edit: oh ya i forgot! Holy Shit what a misplay on the Kroot rules. Totally a fun, scratch game, Uhhh run it back?

[@zielisawzielony9366]

Kroots with 5++? wtf is this game doing

[@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475]

Being awesome.

[@heralds]

F o l I a g e

[@TheBritishPillar]

First

[@ДмитрийМайданов-л6ч]

Guys, change the format. Mostly I clearly see you and dices. But not battlefield. Like watching the radio.

[@anvos658]

Wanted to see more Kroot, but not liking this Tau skintone paint job on the Kroot, much prefer green/brown/dark tan Kroot. Cool Map though. Not your fault, but wow didn't realize they didn't even put a Lone Spear Kroot in that Hunting Pack box. Their trying to sell Kroot as their own Detachment and could be bothered to put that thing in the collection box. Units able to use flamers or melee against the deployment zone Turn 1 never feels right to me. As others have said unless GW sent you an unreleased FAQ with your preview stuff Kroot Sadly can't use the Army Rule. They should be allowed to do something with FtGG though, as it would make a couple Kroot more valuable in other detachments. Personally I'd say the Invulnerable likely comes from the adaptive biology of the Kroot, which likely means they can take certain wounds and not be adversely affected. As for your side table about what it shows is what it has I'm on the opposite, as you shouldn't penalize somebody for not buying additional kits of the same thing or spending more money on magnetizing models. Spending CP before the move for tank shock, makes no sense, as the unit is just charging until the end where it decides to ram the enemy. Sadly my end assessment is I have to giving this one a dislike as other channels have made far more compelling show off the 10th Kroot Detachment. This episode as well feels bloated with commentary, as this match no way should have taken 2 hours.

[@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475]

It ain't the true Miniwargaming experience without the long rambling.

[@anvos658]

@@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475 Some is all right, but this one it just felt bloated to me compared to many others.

[@dylan9025]

You're giving this a dislike ... because it doesnt show off the kroot well enough? Wack

[@tylerhuckaba3031]

So it’s catachan vs a meme list? Come on guys…

[@Fronken89]

This might shock you, but there are people who actually enjoy playing wargames because they are fun. Not everyone minmaxes to win at all costs. I know, shocking.

[@dominicl5862]

@@Fronken89 I see this argument get fallen on a lot: "We play for the narrative, not minmax our army or anything, 'fun' is more important." But then there's moments like ones that start at 2:03:30 where they start talking out the game and I'm like, what's the narrative again? And listen to the part where Luca mentions he likes the rules that halt the game because he wants to player longer sessions. Some people get fun from different things, if its fun from having an army that you put thought into and is strong rules wise and they want to face other powerful forces to test its mettle, then let people have their fun.

[@Fronken89]

@@dominicl5862 Did you even read the comment i was responding too? If you think its more fun to minmax and win, go for it, find people who are likeminded and have fun. Calling other peoples armylists a "Memelist" because it isn't meta is not that. Also calling out the Kroot army for being "Memey" is rich given Catachan is literally an army of Rambos (The inspiration for it), it's a very silly army in a very silly game. So yes, play the game the way you want too and stop pushing Your prefered way on others.

[@anvos658]

This is more of a blame GW, for what they put in the Hunting Pack Box. Not much they can do as well that GW made the Kroot so isolated that you don't want them in the other detachments since they can't use FtGG, and their detachment wants you to limit the amount of Tau you bring since the detachment rules do nothing if you aren't kroot.