Miscellaneous Myths: The Wrath Of Demeter

[@thestranger4894]

Props to Demeter for only torturing the one guy actually responsible.

[@RavenWolffe77]

Turns out being responsible for maintaining ecosystem-wide homeostasis helps you realize mass-genocide is NOT the answer to all problems. I mean, she definitely had to clean up those on a regular basis, so if anything she'd know how fucking annoying it is for everyone involved.

[@the0108]

Any other god would just kill all the workers his family and then him

[@ΣοφοκληςΒλαχόπουλος-ι9ν]

Meanwhile Poseidon curses an entire fucking village 🤣

[@w.mccartney431]

@@RavenWolffe77 *so we just gonna ignore her role in Persephone’s abduction, that being the fact she let NOTHING grow?*

[@teodortomic4755]

@@w.mccartney431 She was on a strike, that's different😂

[@nahuelgioia4177]

The goddess of fertility can ask the goddess of starvation to curse a fool and the later will be like 'Say less'. You gotta love such a healthy relationship between people who are destined by their own nature to be rivals.

[@balanc-joy9187]

Another way to look at it, that someone else in this comment section helped me think of, is that when one of them stops working, the other takes over. Like, when it's a time of famine, Limos is on the job, and when she's not, it's Demeter's turn, and so on.

[@rayanderson5797]

Or just 'know your enemy'. Enemies can be even better than allies if you know them well enough to point them in the right direction.

[@danieloceansmith3156]

To be fair, it’s not like rivals hate each other, they just love one upping each other.

[@misellus3931]

opposites attract ig

[@Onyx-qd9tl]

Two sides of the same coin…?

[@nicholasdanner628]

Erysichthon is that guy in a horror movie who’s death is the most cathartic because up until now their stupid decisions have resulted in everyone else dying but them

[@kab6754]

Train to Busan has that same character as well. It's like breathing clean air for the first time

[@AxxLAfriku]

SCHOOL! The answer is I don't go! Why go? I am famous. I am famous. I have more fans than fingers multiplied with toes multiplied with teeth multiplied with ears. I am famous. I am famous. SCHOOL? No, thanks. KZbin FAME? Yes. Good day, dear n

[@Silverwind87]

He's the guy who thinks the spooky stuff is all one big prank, up until his death.

[@balanc-joy9187]

@@Silverwind87 Right on the money!

[@Penumant]

The cop from CUBE

[@star.master_cranium]

Demeter:Beyond proud of her actions. Hades:Slightly surprised and terrified. Persephone:Embarrassed.

[@eternal_m1dnight140]

Cerberus: Sensing his owner's discomfort, butts in and nuzzles Hades

[@heartbreaker22100]

I doubt she'd be embarrassed, Persephone herself is terrifying. If anything, I'd imagine this would be a casual fun chatter between mother and daughter with hades thinking to himself " now.. what would she have done to me ..if Persephone COULDN'T come back home..."

[@elijahpadilla5083]

@@heartbreaker22100 I'd say embarrassed in more the "Mom, this is the thirtieth time you've told this story, and you exaggerate it more every time", sort of way.

[@luvthecronch3542]

Persephone:Mother please- Stop telling the stories of how you tortured people who messed with nature- Hades and I have enough idea's as is

[@pRahvi0]

It's embarrassing to realize how much you ended up resembling your mom despite trying to your whole life rebelling against her.

[@Coratlan]

No but the "hunger so intense that you end up destroying yourself" makes perfect sense in an environmental destruction sense. Overfarming= deplete nutrients from the soil. Over lumbering= loose soil that slips away in land slides. etc.

[@sailiealquadacil1284]

No trees can also result in more avalanches. The alpine regions figured that one out, and people were not allowed to cut down certain forests. If they ignored this law, they were banished.

[@ejsmith7626]

This is the kind of literary analysis I love. You could write a small thesis off this alone.

[@curlyhairdudeify]

"Over Farming" is a lie... The land isn't starving for nutrients when the nutrients are not being returned to the land via manure as fertilizer because the government banned it to favor petrochemical based fertilizers to favor Big Oil.

[@CaptainvonDore]

​@@sailiealquadacil1284for some reason, I read a punctuation mark between no and tree and was about to write a paragraph on why you are wrong. I am dam stupid.

[@thepigeonmanlyon7155]

Demeter: constantly portrayed as less important than the other olympians Also Demeter: "I will work with my literal godly antithesis just to inflict the most horrifying fate possible on you."

[@SivakAurak]

Artemis did the same thing with Eros when Aura angered her.

[@efaristi9737]

@@SivakAurak Eros is not her antithesis, her main portfolio is hunt and animals, not virginity. That would be more Hestia.

[@LaffyTaffy04]

Demeter is the Olenna Tyrell of the Greek Gods. She's not here to shed blood, but getting on her bad side is the worst (and possibly last) mistake you'll ever make.

[@Infinitystar225]

Let's be honest the Olympian who is portrayed as least important is Hestia as she barely appears in any story. She probably just wants to avoid the drama.

[@000Dragon50000]

@@efaristi9737 Hestia's more of a hearth goddess, but the whole weird virginity thing was important to Artemis, Hestia AND Athena soo meh both work.

[@Derpinator01]

Demeter's grove gets cut down: The king responsible starves until he eats himself out of desperation Demeter's daughter gets taken: All of humanity starves until she is returned out of desperation So basically, if you piss off the goddess of nature you're lucky if you have a quick death.

[@spookyghostwriter3110]

Honestly my headcanon for that is whenever one of those die Hades is waiting for them and goes “yeah sorry about my in laws.”

[@machineapenser493]

@@spookyghostwriter3110 Except for our king over there. He would probably have a mile long face at his sight, at least if he knows what he had done.

[@adrianmcbride1666]

@@spookyghostwriter3110 I don't it with this one at least. My head cannon would be that he gets his own Tantilising prison.

[@pokeyscorpion8224]

That second thing wasn’t really humans doing anything wrong, it was Zeus being a garbage person and humanity suffering as as a result

[@juliuswhite2947]

The lucky part is if you get a non fatal curse but your f-d either way

[@Peteman]

Signs: "Sacred tree, do not kill" Erysichthon: "I choose to not understand these signs".

[@vaguediscomfort5720]

THIS SIGN CANT STOP ME! I CANT READ!

[@rueluxprince6982]

His actual name is Jared 19 and he never learned how to read

[@พิชยะพิทยาพงษ์ชาติ]

I understand these references.

[@lemeres2478]

"Haha. It will be thousands of years until literacy is widespread, and hire people to handle that boring stuff like reading"

[@ActuatedGear]

"So you have chosen death."

[@WestleyTaninger]

Honestly, I'm just glad the king jumped straight to eating himself, and didn't eat anyone else first. I was so sure he'd only get to autocannibalism AFTER the regular kind.

[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

Considering there's a myth abou a king preparing a meal with his own kids (iirc) to Zeus, just to check his divine nature, that's indeed surprising.

[@Teackay]

@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 *Two* myths, IIRC. Tantalus and Lycaon. I guess trying to trick Zeus into eating children was the ancient Greek kings' Tide Pod challenge.

[@BlueLikeAnIKEABag]

I heard a version once where he ate his daughter, who had taken the form of a donkey at the time

[@Hoshimaru57]

I’m sure it was probably in there somewhere and Red really didn’t want to mention it

[@Silverwind87]

@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 He killed Demeter's BFF and sold his daughter _multiple times,_ I don't doubt that cannibalism is below this sicko.

[@TroubleReading]

This was my favorite Greek myth growing up! and you missed my favorite part. So he kept selling his daughter and eventually a prince bought her and fell in love with her. When she escaped he followed because he too could shape shift. An awesome shapeshifting chase ensued and eventually they were married. This chase took so long that in the meantime her father ran through the money from selling her, ate all the food, and then ate himself when he had nothing else.

[@figurativelyliterally9796]

Oooo! ❤️

[@ZenoDLC]

So the idiot didn't eat his own daughter and thus lost his way of making money, got it

[@ForrestFox626]

Oh!

[@TheNo1pencil]

Wait that's really cute

[@efaristi9737]

never heard that part, might be a modern addition. but it's cute nonetheless

[@justinalicea1590]

I would argue that it makes perfect sense that Demeter could get along with her antithesis even when they physically can't get near each other. Demeter is the goddess who determines whether or not you have food to eat, meaning anything like crop failure and dying livestock is a sign that Demeter has cast Limos upon you. Because if Demeter is on your side of the court, Limos wouldn't be able to show up.

[@MatthewCobalt]

When not being there is the actual consequences.

[@tumach4796]

Well of course Demeter and Lemos get along. If there is one thing that Greek myths teach us, the best way to get along with a Greek deity is to stay far, far away from them.

[@MercuryA2000]

@@tumach4796 Honestly, the most accurate summary of greek mythology I've ever seen.

[@xLoLRaven]

@@MatthewCobalt "Why silly man, I don't have to HURT you. I simply don't need to HELP you for your life to meet a miserable end."

[@livingcorpse5664]

There's also the fact that death is a part of life, so they're kind of the different sides of the same coin, both life and death are part of nature.

[@TehTechnoMiser]

I wanna take a moment to appreciate the still shot of Limos hovering over Erysichthon while he's asleep. Red reminds me that her bread and butter is pleasing, semi-simplistic figure drawings, but when she wants to add emphasis she's absolutely incredible in making it work for dramatic affect.

[@Boss_Isaac]

Oh, that shot was absolutely gorgeous! The lighting was spectacular! 🤩

[@ikeekieeki]

yes!

[@anonymousfellow8879]

2:26 for anyone else who blinked-and-missed-it

[@sorcierenoire8651]

@@anonymousfellow8879 holy shit, for people that missed that they mustve blinked for 3 seconds straight.

[@willparry530]

@@anonymousfellow8879 nice!

[@tristandenny7564]

Actually, eternal hunger had a relation to the crime against nature committed. Erysichthon's punishment was chosen for him specifically because he chopped down the grove to acquire enough wood to build a dining hall and/or a table of all things (Must have been one heck of a big table). Demeter was just like "If you're going to kill my dryad friends to build your fancy dining hall, you might as well use it."

[@frankielovejoy9928]

These Gods can get really creative with the punishments huh?

[@anonymousfellow8879]

Honestly it’s entirely justified. And for once someone avenges the nymphs, just sayin’

[@zealthethornydragon]

@@frankielovejoy9928 i mean the punishment has to fit the crime right?

[@hanahomemadepizza1424]

Source? Your claim makes sense but generally Red does her research and if she says it was never explained I would tend to believe her

[@frankielovejoy9928]

@@zealthethornydragon Exactly.

[@Chirpysemperboy]

Hades: So...this guy came here and he says he is starving but looks fit as a horse... Demeter: And you thought to come to me? Hades: Well I asked the Goddess of Starvstion, who pointed me to a nymph, who pointed me to you...so dish... Demeter: ...in my defense he killed my magical forest... Hades: You mean the place full of Dryads with that big tree that may as well have "Do Not Touch" in a giant ass sign over it? Demeter: Yes... Hades: ...So...you want me to give him the Tantalus special? Demeter: ...Have I ever told you you are the best son-in-law ever? Hades: No. Demeter: Well then don't get to emotional about it because this is a one time thing.

[@GriffinPilgrim]

I've read your script, I love it and I would be excited to be a part of it.

[@marctaco2624]

Hades: why do humans fear me so much again? Demeter: because you keep them trapped in the underworld. Hades: yes. Demeter: and away from the beauty of the sun, moon and nature. Hades: yes. Demeter: and you punish them so I don’t have to. Hades: exactly. Demeter: and if you don’t, I will. Hades: …I’ll get to it.

[@user-ft5vx7pv3c]

I thought Hades was Demeter’s brother

[@GriffinPilgrim]

@@user-ft5vx7pv3c He is. He's also her son in law. He married his niece. Twice over actually, as his wife Persephone is the daughter of Demeter and Zeus. Greek gods, they're like that.

[@Chirpysemperboy]

@@user-ft5vx7pv3c Best not to question it, just move along.

[@gus.smedstad]

I feel like the stuff with Mestra deserved more time. Between "I've had sex with Poseidon," the shape shifting, and getting sold off a bunch of times, seems like there's a fair amount to tell.

[@martelgates9074]

I think in one story of this is that she was eaten by him but revived and turned into a butterfly or something

[@krspaceT1]

@@martelgates9074 Her father or Poseidon? Who cannibalized her? (I'd say 'ate her', but there is a joke you can make about Poseidon eating her [and Sally Jackson] in a different R rated way)

[@amandadane868]

@@krspaceT1 Her father ate her.

[@krspaceT1]

@@amandadane868 Poor girl. Sad when Poseidon seems to be the good part of one's life.

[@amandadane868]

@@krspaceT1 Oh so very true. But it’s worse when the only good thing is Zeus, at least if your a woman.

[@JohnnyOrc]

This has to be up there with "attempted kidnapping of Hades' wife" for Greek Darwin Awards. Demeter nearly killed the entire planet for her daughter, and Zeus didn't have the balls to face her until after she was reunited! Greece is just lucky Demeter didn't just decide to switch places with Limos for a few decades.

[@omegraptorch3624]

That might explain the collapse of the bronze age…

[@anonymousfellow8879]

Demeter knows Exactly what her domain is capable of. Do NOT fuck with her. She is patient and you WILL lose, and she will always be justified. When you’re denied justice you self advocate and make your own.

[@BrandonVout]

Demeter's effectively the true heir of Gaia, since Gaia stepped back after consolidating Zeus' reign. Messing with her could only end one way.

[@N.I.A23]

Zeus wasn't afraid tho. He was abusive to those who disobeyed him yes, but he could be reasoned with. The king of the gods first act shouldn't always be "punch it in face lolz".

[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

The great winner is still the guy that gave human food to Zeus.

[@kyuven]

Demeter: "Hey Hades how's Erysichthon doing?" Hades: "Why do you ask that every time you visit?" Demeter: "Oh, no reason. Just like to keep abreast of the results of my...projects." Hades: "I feel like I'm always being saddled with everyone else's 'projects.'" Seriously, Hades ends up with the end results of all the godly mayhem. No wonder his punishments are far more fair and fitting than others. He's probably STILL bothered by Orpheus whining about Eurydice. Or Herakles trying to avoid Megara and the kids.

[@JimBob4233]

Orpheus and Eurydice are probably OK now that they're together again, and Herakles ended up on Olympus so he only has to avoid Megara if he visits his uncle

[@Ilikecatsismychannelname]

Also known as why the mortals may see Hades never visiting family as him having been banned from Olympus whereas he probably saw it as avoiding my crazy siblings and extended family. Sometimes I feel like there are exactly two functional adults in the ancient Greek pantheon and Hades is one of them. The other is Hestia.

[@pokeyscorpion8224]

As the eldest, Hades is probably used to that kinda thing. I mean someone has to be the responsible one, and it might as well be the guy with the most important job in maintaining cosmic balance

[@ZefulStarson]

@@JimBob4233 The point with Orpheus and Eurydice's story is that they _aren't_ together again. Orpheus kills himself, and the muses keep his severed moving head.

[@anez1266]

@@ZefulStarson No, one of Dionysus followers decapitates his head and THEN the muses keep him all to themselves

[@ArkaSaurusRex218]

Demeter and Preshpone really had the whole "Beware the fury of a gentle woman thing".

[@adrianmcbride1666]

Are we sure that applies to "Dread" Persephone... who sent murder as a gift to Aphrodite when asked for a bit of her beauty? I am not so sure "gentle" is the right term to describe Persephone.

[@IceQueen975]

Aphrodite from behind a pillar: AM I A JOKE TO YOU?!

[@dndhat]

@@IceQueen975 Aphrodite is many things but 'gentle' is not one of them. She will make sure you F yourself in a spectacular manner over the mildest of snubs.

[@pokeyscorpion8224]

@@IceQueen975 Aphrodite is anything BUT gentle

[@synderthmc]

@@adrianmcbride1666 You do realize your trying to defend aphrodite right. And that's basically the only example of persephone being extra

[@RynRobitske]

Okay, I love the implication that Hades goes with Persephone to visit Demeter (and not just play bachelor for 3 months). That's adorable!

[@ultimatebishoujo29]

I love it too

[@lowkeyarki7091]

Hades is a busy guy, the only busy guy based on the myth but yeah, I'm sure he can afford to at least personally escort persephone to demeter

[@InExcelsisDeo]

Lol, @the mythology guy put up a short. Media hades: and he's an evil monster in like clash of Titans and god of war and stuff Mythological Hades: *sitting alone in the underworld, checks watch. "Welp.... Only two more months til I get to see my wife again.... ~SIGH"

[@cybernurgle6413]

​@lowkeyarki7091 at least stick around for dinner and dessert before leaving her topside.

[@margaretschaufele6502]

I think its cute too, and maybe building to a better relationship between Hades and Demeter.

[@elainerobles4221]

Erysichthon is the kind of guy to look at himself in the mirror and say: "Is anyone gonna eat that?" and not wait for an answer.

[@benjaminklaassen4722]

Well apparently, she finally got married to a guy she wanted to get married to in the form of the thief Autolycus; grandfather of Odysseus and the guy who taught Heracles how to arm-wrestle.

[@spencertang5155]

You referring to mestra getting married to autolycus?

[@Luckanio]

nice reference

[@chaihill1837]

Congratulations you made me nearly spit out my drink when I realized what the reference was.

[@justaghostinthesea]

Marvel: Infinity War will be the greatest crossover of all time This legend:

[@gerstein03]

King: cuts down Demeter's sacred grove Me: yeah this definitely won't end well Also I love how Red's depiction of the Greek pantheon is a hilarious dysfunctional family. There's so much lore in the miscellaneous myths series

[@amauryleblanc7979]

It IS a VERY dysfunctional family; everyone in it is related by blood and/or marriage, they constantly commit adultery, kidnapping and rape, they're jealous, power hungry and vindictive, hardly forgive and punish harshly! So yeah... Dysfunctional.

[@efaristi9737]

@@amauryleblanc7979 well, not easy to not be related by blood when you all descend from the same deity. but they're gods, they're fines XD. how so power hungry?

[@ethanstackhouse7274]

@@efaristi9737 I mean apart from Hestia, who just let's the kid play by themselves, everyone else wants as much control as possible. Zeus - don't think I need to explain him, you know, with the whole killing dad thing Posideon and hades - Both rule very powerful parts of the world Hera - made zeus marry her so she could be queen of gods, might not be 100% but its Hera. She is also jealous of Athena being Zeus favourite over her soon Ares Dionysius - had a hissy dit just because he wasn't on the 12 seats, leading to Hestia steeping down. Hephasteous - idk really know with this one apart from he basically chained his mother to a chair and forced her and the others to recognise him. More of revenge but we move. Aphrodite and Athena - Golden apple in the illiad. Also wanting to most beautiful by any means with dite and goddess of strategy ( pretty much falls under goddess of war on most occasions) Ares - God of war so no more Hermes- cheeky fucker gains small power here and there by using other people. Also only one to be able to travel between Olympus and Tatarus. Demeter - This myth and the Hades and persephone myth. Not really power hungry per say bit she wouldn't let life live ( whata bitch) unless she got what she wanted. Artemis - Not really much tbf apart from she is a total cock blocker. Apollo - I mean takes after daddy dearest and chases down anyone who he fancies and not letting up unless they either dies, turn to tree or he punishes them. Kinda same as Demeter but just a lot more creep Now if u don't mind me, I'm going to smash my phone for the amount of times this autocorrect stopped me from spelling the names right.

[@christiandauz3742]

Hades game

[@HaakonTheRayquaza]

It's kinda true too, one of my favorite parts of the lore is that Dionysus runs a Bar on Olympus

[@guillermopena8412]

Demeter: And that's what happens when a guy thinks he can deflower someone I love. Persephone: Mom. All we said was that we were thinking of having children. Demeter: I know, dear....tea?

[@johnnygyro2295]

Persephone: "You could be a badass grandmother." Demeter: "Touche..."

[@Swan_River_Cowboy]

Hades: Silently Sipping Tea, Terrorfied

[@salvadortoscano2534]

@@Swan_River_Cowboy I agree with this xD I also agree with @John Morgan

[@marctaco2624]

@@Swan_River_Cowboy You gotta love that the god of death is the least violent member of his family.

[@graceneilitz7661]

@@johnnygyro2295 grandmother/aunt as Demeter is Hades’s sister,both being children of Cronus and Rhea.

[@aaronstephen3058]

And here I thought Demeter was pissed when Persephone went missing… I had no idea she went this hard

[@ireallyneedtherapy1126]

I mean, he pissed off a literal goddess, like what did you expect?

[@dracorex426]

She almost wiped out humanity.

[@Munchkin.Of.Pern09]

People always tend to forget that Demeter IS Zeus, Poseidon, Hades, and Hera’s sister. And she is JUST as scary as all of her siblings.

[@KeeshiexAsh]

This women is the literal definition of 'Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned'

[@adrianmcbride1666]

@@KeeshiexAsh I think that is Hera, Demeter might come in second though.

[@AjiraCtelin1993]

Demeter, smiling: "...and you know the rest." Hades, visibly uncomfortable: *"Oh boy do I ever.* In fact that explains the state he showed up in. Tell me something, Demeter. How many people have you given *fitting* punishments? I give Sysiphis a boulder to balance on a hill for trapping Thanatos in a box and lying to Persephone's face about funerary rites. I give Tantalus proximity to water and food he can't reach for trying to serve Pelops for dinner - I'm sure you know *that* one very well. Point is, Persephone and I give people things to think about in their afterlives. *There are no lessons to be learned from being hungry enough to autocannibalize!"* Demeter, offended: "That was Limos, and you know it!" Hades: "And who gave her the idea again?" Demeter: "What? Just like Zeus gave YOU the idea to kidnap my daughter for half the year?" Persephone, done everyone's shit: "Mom, please look at your brothers and sisters before you bring that up against my husband again. We're not all Zeus and Hera, here."

[@kira-dk2mx]

Meanwhile, with Hades and Persephone's kids. Melinoe: "You know, grandma may be an unlikeable cunt, but I appreciate her creativity. Can't argue with that level of brutality. Two thumbs up from me!" Macara, who is saddled with babysitting Zagreus: "Mel, please don't encourage the old people. We have enough problems with Eris. Zag, stop eating gold coins!"

[@ShiraishiHolmes39]

"We are not all Zeus and hera here" Beautiful, spectacular Bravo bravo! bis bis!

[@lolbots686]

@@ShiraishiHolmes39 Hades:also for one thing,zeus and poseidon? There fucking crazy, especially zeus of all people,do you know how many times ive had to deal with his antics!? Demeter,ofended still:and this is coming from the feared god of the dead who had his ass handed to him by his own child? Hades:...ok 1st off,i had my reasons for keeping zagreus away,2nd off he literally had all of your help so to be fair i was outgunned there. ...also quite frankly the fact hes been doing so well has actually done some good considering stress testing the underworlds defenses is a idea i havent properly had done exactly.

[@cawareyoudoin7379]

I think it's a very fitting lesson.

[@GSBarlev]

I really love the "OSP canon" interpretation that Persephone, Hades and Zagreus/Dionysus are hands down the healthiest and most well- adjusted nuclear family across the entire Hellenistic pantheon.

[@Jacieltje]

Erysichthon: *hears story of Demeter nearly destroying everything cause someone stole her daughter* Erysichthon: *looks at Demeter's sacred grove he plans to chop down* What could go wrong??

[@reillycurran8508]

This feels like a distinctly more Eldritch and Gruesome version of what happened to Tantalus. The mechanics are wildly different but the core of divinity cursing an arrogant king with effective eternal unsatiable hunger is still there in both myths.

[@John_Weiss]

Nah, I think Eldritch and Gruesome is what would've happened had Persephone heard what happened to her Mom and intervened first…

[@pinkneko13]

I feel like the Bacchus is a close second.

[@kae5717]

I distinctly recall it was Demeter who accidentally ate a bit of Pelops in the Tantalus incident too. Hm...

[@h0m3st4r]

@@kae5717 His shoulder, specifically.

[@TheMageOfVoid]

@@pinkneko13 You mean Dionysus right? Bacchus is the Roman version.

[@nickalasmontano1496]

It's interesting that there's a goddess of starvation. Like, there's probably not a being on Earth that would worship such an entity. But because every phenomenon and state of being has a deity, they just exist as a sort of background character.

[@anonymousoff-brand7538]

yeah, alot of children of erys or nix are like that.

[@enderdarkos4087]

That happens with many of the children of Nyx! They embody the "negative" aspects and aren't worshipped but they exist. Like Thanatos, no person prays to the God of Death. But he existed and did his job!

[@sarafontanini7051]

theoritcally one couldd worship them to protect yourself from those effects or to inflcit it upon people you didn't like

[@simonferocious]

there was also Oizys who was the goddess of misey. it's actually pretty cool how many minor gods there are. even if they don't get mentioned all that much in mythology it's still fun to learn about them. I really hope Red focuses more on lesser known deities and myths like this one

[@perrilewis180]

Well with multiple gods they are supposed to be the answer to why something is happening so of course there is a god for bad things.

[@TheFlamingGamerYT]

Miscellaneous Myths with Red are definitely some great videos! Gonna bet this video will end up on the trending page, just gonna toss that out there, because these videos are always great to watch. So this definitely deserves to go on the trending page ;)

[@ZipplyZane]

I was under the impression that all OSPs made it to trending at this point. Or at least all of Red's main series.

[@TheFlamingGamerYT]

@@ZipplyZane Yeah. From the looks of it, Red’s videos seem to hit the trending page pretty quick after some time

[@AxxLAfriku]

One thing! Just one thing! Please tell IT to me: WHY tf do I have so many fans even though no KZbinr is unprettier than I am? WORLDWIDE!!!! WHY??? Tell me, dear fla

[@Diceof20sides]

Always do

[@tiiimmmm__]

@@AxxLAfriku i love you oh so dearly

[@jeswicas]

That frame at 2:27 is straight up nightmare material, compliments to Red on her art! All of it is so evocative and lively.

[@gothnerd887]

It became a meme

[@blackwatertv7018]

Demeter: “Hey remember that king I made eat himself cause he pissed me off” Persephone: “ seriously Mom every single time…” Hades: “Soooo the Olive crop is good this year…”

[@matijasostojic4288]

And she judged Hades and who knows what kind of punishemnt she Gave him in the underworld.

[@punprincess3214]

@@matijasostojic4288 wait... what did she do to hades?

[@matijasostojic4288]

@@punprincess3214 Im currently looking at my commwnt And trying to figure out what ii means. I have somehow confused myself. I think i was saying that Demeter had judged him when he had "Kidnapped" her. Im Pretty sure the punishment part was supposed to be "What Kind of punishment would she had given him" you know, if he was completely in the wrong. Instead of what i wrote

[@punprincess3214]

@@matijasostojic4288 ah i see

[@StonedtotheBones13]

Honestly props to Hades if he's somehow that unflappable/used to Demeter. Altho they have had centuries by now...

[@Sam_596]

The "Don't mess with your biosphere" message is also present in the version of Orion's myth where he drinks a cup o' hubris and claims he'll kill all animals, to which Gaia herself takes exception.

[@timothymclean]

Why do so many people in Greek mythology do such obviously stupid stuff? I'd think "Don't cut Demeter's trees" or "Don't threaten to murder a god's entire domain" or "Don't try to outwit Hades and Persephone" would be so obvious that you wouldn't need an object lesson to sort it out.

[@dandymaiden]

@@timothymclean simple really , Like all things with egos , Pride is unfortunately a very strong emotion to desist. No matter what we say or do, the one with the most power are the ones with the biggest pride.

[@jocosesonata]

Remember kids: don't do hubris.

[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

"Hey, tats guy is preending to be Zeus! What if I cook human food to see if he's telling the truthh? No way this wil; ever go wrong!"

[@johnmartin4119]

Just a reminder the tool Demeter carried with her was the Scythe of her own father Cronus, which I can only imagine she claimed as a trophy in battle during the Titan War. What’s the message what is the takeaway don’t mess with Demeter when she’s on a breakaway

[@violetwitch9948]

i can only picture that Dementer and Hades use to be a close sibling but fall apart a little bit when Zeus give her daughter to Hades

[@JoshtheOverlander]

@@violetwitch9948 honestly, it'd be nice if they came together in their mutual hatred of Zeus being a constant fucking failure on the entire family. I'm so jazzed that the original myth of Persephone actually paints Zeus justifiably as the one at fault, that happens so rarely.

[@seanboyd2898]

I could see it mellowing a bit to be 'Hades is not like the other two, so Persephone is safe from harm..... But I'm still gonna mess with him.' Since Demeter's relationship with her two other brothers is....not great. Then again, this ignores the good points Red brings up in the Persephone and Hades video about how Hades isn't really central to that myth.

[@seanboyd2898]

I would also like to point out that one interpretation to the story of Tantalus feeding his son to the gods but Demeter eats his shoulder (so he gets an ivory shoulder in replacement) is that she used to get human sacrifices back in the day and so didn't notice anything unusual.

[@Maria.Annette]

Demeter is the goddess of plant life and growing stuff, but unless you want to trapped in a giant pitcher plant or have bamboo growing through your insides like you're the world's ickiest version of floral foam, maybe don't mess with her. Otherwise... What can I say except you're dead soon.

[@victordinu4127]

The response Hades would have on that "fun" game night would be "Yes, good job, but how many have you tormented for eternity?" (Tantalus, Ixon, Sisyphus). At which point Persephone quickly realises that her family is batshit i n s a n e. And she liked it!

[@salvadortoscano2534]

I mean Zeus specifically stole her away to have her marry Hades. I'm pretty sure *everyone* knows the Greek gods are insane xD

[@incanusolorin2607]

I’m pretty sure that *dread* Persephone, queen of the Underworld, would be ok with that 😂

[@valhatan3907]

Persephone herself has another portrayal which is she described as more cruel than Hades, so yes I agree, she would be ok with that 😂

[@anonymousfellow8879]

Persephone: wait-he killed a dryad?? Demeter: yes. Persephone: he had it coming, then.

[@CryptidCritter]

Yeah, considering Persephone is known as Dread Queen Persephone; is tied to symbols such as iron, bats, and blood; and is said to be more terrifying, cruel, and powerful than her husband Hades.... I think she is happily discussing the insane things her family has done xDDD

[@Claudia_Ackermann]

Egyptian Gods: *"The neighbors are it again"* Japanese Gods: *"Woah, they're weirder than us"*

[@tylerfuller-battles8370]

Fun Fact: Limos is a daughter of Eris(no father) making her Demeter's distant cousin.

[@voydcat8089]

This isn’t a surprise, everyone in Greek myth is related. Everyone. Yes, even him. Her too.

[@jorriffhdhtrsegg]

Pretty distant, i think the common ancestor is chaos? So Eris is from Nyx not the Gaia,Uranus tree. And chaos is basically the primordial Vaccuum energy so literally everything comes from her

[@tylerfuller-battles8370]

@@jorriffhdhtrsegg That's right.

[@schlinderrojas8555]

What so Eris did a Hera and created herself a baby

[@GhostBear3067]

Demeter: "And then I made him eat himself." Hades: "Why didn't you just drop a big tree on him or something?" Demeter: "Where's the fun in that?" Hades: "This is why I tend to avoid you all..."

[@adrianmcbride1666]

Hades divided divided number of torturous things himself... like the prison of Tantalus. He probably would not be that offended.

[@CollinMcLean]

@@adrianmcbride1666 Yeah but Hades tends to include a poetic message of some sort. Demeter's are kind of just "Fatality!"

[@anonymousfellow8879]

@@CollinMcLean Um, this IS poetic. The asshole murdered a dryad against literally every warning. He then did Hubris against not only an olympian, but one of the 6 who took out Cronos. Demeter’s the goddess of harvest; she group projected a Curse with her antithesis. She also only targeted him-not the mortals who were ordered to desecrate her grove, only the king who issued the order then murdered the dryad He got what he deserved, and it’s laser-focused on him. Any other olympian, major god, minor god, or deity would send a monster to wipe out an entire area for several generations (aside from Hades who devises poetic eternal punishments once they’re dead. But a great deal of those are because they pissed off Zeus, not because they’re truly heinous or pissed off Hades.)

[@redwitch12]

@@anonymousfellow8879 I certainly appreciate that Demeter's revenge was focused squarely on the perpetrator. You're right about most of the other gods causing widespread destruction; in other myths, the poor woodcutters would have suffered too at the very least, but in this one, the jackoff who gave the orders AND participated personally was the sole target. Then again, I guess she didn't feel the need to punish his entire kingdom with famine or something, although I doubt that having the national treasury drained to pay for the king's divinely-inflicted gluttony had much of a positive impact on the overall situation.

[@starblade8719]

@@redwitch12 I agree but he also hurt his daughter

[@glamourweaver]

Alternative explanation of Limos: she’s never in the same place as Demeter because they’re the same deity. That which she grants she can just as easily take away

[@John_Weiss]

Oooooh! I like this idea!

[@lucykitsune4619]

Goddess of nature in my fantasy novel: "You have Nukes? That's adoreable. I have Volcanoes, Earthquakes and Hurricanes."

[@Madrigal025]

@@lucykitsune4619 Why bother? That's a lot of effort, she can always go with her good all classic Perpetual Winter. She can just hang back and do nothing while the whole world starves to death.

[@istvanbrooks5319]

@@Madrigal025 no animals left though, or plants Big oof

[@QueenBoadicea]

@@lucykitsune4619 Natural disasters can kill people in the thousands. Nuclear bombs kill people in the millions. There are really only two things that make serious dents in worldwide human population: war and epidemics. Think of the Bubonic Plague, the fever of 1918, the global terror of AIDS and Covid-19, e.g.

[@mahtimonni97]

Demeter: "Look, o lord of underworld! See how I've filled your kingdom! As I've given them harvest, so too is that mine to revoke! It is mine word that permits lithe Limos to reap her tribute. Ask Thanatos. How many have embraced his gentle arms thanks to mine hardened heart. Go ask. Who here suffers their penance for slighting me." *Turns to Persephone* "Sooo, honey... How's married life? :)"

[@animeotaku307]

Wish I could like more for that epic bit of poetry.

[@John_Weiss]

Hades: “Perhaps, dear sister/mother-in-law, you do not know that I share my authority _equally_ with my beloved wife. By sending so many souls to me, you are giving _us _*_both_*_ extra work to do.”_

[@Boss_Isaac]

@@John_Weiss *Demeter, sipping her tea nonchalantly with her right arm outstretched, flicking her hand in an “Oh, bah!” gesture:* “Well, being the loving husband that you are, I'm _certain_ you'll be sure to see Persephone is in no way burdened by such a heavy workload and take care of those souls yourself. After all, you've ruled Erebos for many more millennia, it shouldn't be an issue for the dread lord of the shades to account for a few hundred more, hmm?” *Hades, giving Demeter a deadpan glare, quietly fumes, exhaling from his nose:* “Of course not. There will be no problem in arranging for Persephone to go for a nice walk with Kerberos by the Lethe.”

[@Karak-_-]

I love Hades expression of: "He was asking for it but dammm." "Am I the only normal one in this family?" *flashback to sorting out the guys paperwork" "I can never let her on decisions of ethernall punishemts."

[@ΣοφοκληςΒλαχόπουλος-ι9ν]

I mean Hades did fed someone to his dog once

[@Karak-_-]

@@ΣοφοκληςΒλαχόπουλος-ι9ν Who?

[@ΣοφοκληςΒλαχόπουλος-ι9ν]

@@Karak-_- Pyrithous

[@Karak-_-]

@@ΣοφοκληςΒλαχόπουλος-ι9ν Wasn't that guy just frozen to a stone throne?

[@ΣοφοκληςΒλαχόπουλος-ι9ν]

@@Karak-_- yes but eventually he was fed to Cerberos

[@benjaminklaassen4722]

2:47 *Poseidon:* Okay Demeter, whatever Erysichthon did to you absolutely cannot be as big of a deal as you are making it out to be, because he just sold his daughter and now she's on _my_ ass to fix it. So... what the shit? *Demeter:* Who, Mestra? I thought you liked that girl? *Poseidon:* Okay, that was a one-time thing and it went nowhere. *Demeter:* You mean like most of your other mortal affairs? *Poseidon:* Okay, that's uncalled-for; I've had _some_ successes. *Demeter:* _sing-song_ Not as many as Zeus. *Poseidon:* Will you stop dodging my question?! What the shit did you do to Erysichthon? *Demeter:* _weary sigh_ Oh alright. If you must know, he cut down my sacred grove to build a stupid dining hall. *Poseidon:* Sacred grove? You mean that one where your favorite dryad lived disguised as an oak tree covered in prayer tablets? *Demeter:* Yeah. And he killed her personally. So I sent word to Limos- *Poseidon:* Limos?! Your polar opposite? *Demeter:* Why? Do you know another goddess named Limos with the power to curse mortals with eternal hunger? *Poseidon:* That's why he sold his daughter? Because he's hungry?! *Demeter:* I believed the term is "ravenous". And broke. He already spent everything else he had. *Poseidon:* Okay, that makes a lot of sense. Yeesh, Persephone's gonna have a field day with that guy when he dies; wasn't that dryad one of her best friends? *Demeter:* Indeed she was. *Poseidon:* Heh. This guy doesn't have a prayer, even in Tartarus. And I guess I do kinda owe Mestra a boon, so... _casually grants Mestra shapeshifting_ There; everyone's happy. *Demeter:* Except for Erysichthon, which is just fine by me. _cruel chuckle_ *Poseidon:* O_o Has anyone ever told you that you can be profoundly terrifying when you want to be? *Demeter:* Hades, all the time. *Poseidon:* Yeah, I believe that.

[@videogollumer]

Funny thing, Poseidon has also shown to be able to scare Hades with his earthquakes.

[@darkherculeskabuterimon7203]

@@videogollumer Poseidon is technically the god of the land, so that makes sense. Hades rules everything _under_ the earth, and Zeus' domain is the sky. Everything else is Aquaman.

[@videogollumer]

@@darkherculeskabuterimon7203 Who is this "Aquaman" you speak of? I think you're in the wrong literary fiction.

[@darkherculeskabuterimon7203]

@@videogollumer It's a pun.

[@videogollumer]

@@darkherculeskabuterimon7203 I don't see it.

[@עומרשרייבר-ל4ר]

Always felt like demeter was underrated. People seem to forget just how powerful she is, she literally almost killed the entire world just because her daughter being kidnapped, that's hard core. But sadly in most media you bearly see her or even hearing her name being mentioned. My girl need some more love and recognition.

[@stretopovermind9680]

Meh. Do you want to know who is really hardcore? *Gaia* . Demeter is just a cheap replacement.

[@CrimsonBlasphemy]

That's likely due to not being a flashy goddess overall. She's just there, doing her thing. And year over year, and isn't often the most noteworthy thing going on in life.... Until suddenly she's not chill and steady anymore. It's always the quite ones. And if we still had active mass Hellenistic worship, she'd be going on a rampage since the 80s. First the ozone layer, then Oil Company Exces hiding the slow broiling of the planet. The Texas Freeze of 2021. The two rains of Frozen Florida Iguanas. Other extreme weather events. And Demeter is just warming up.

[@krankarvolund7771]

@@CrimsonBlasphemy I think it has to do with her domain, she's justthe godess of agriculture and fertility, all the things you point to are not Demeter's doing (if she existed), it's Gaia, or one of the wind, or things like that ^^ But in ancient world, the fertility of your crops was the most important thing. A bad year could mean a scarcity of food, and people will be hungry in the end of winter. Several consecutive bad years, and you've got a famine with probably hundreds i not thousands of deaths. In the western world, even the idea of a scarcity is just out of place, it's a thing that happen abroad, in Africa or Asia, not in our home. So yeah, Demeter seems a non-important godess, because we take what she represents for granted ^^

[@melsy94]

Know who really doesn't get enough coverage (not that I don't agree with Demeter needing more)? Hestia. She was one of the most universally worshipped gods since most everyone had a hearth and family and that was kinda her domain. She was worshipped on roughly the same level as Zeus and Hermes, there just aren't a lot of myths that mention or center around her. She takes a vow of chastity upon Zeus' head, and avoids getting r@ped thanks to a donkey. For a goddess so integral to ancient greek life, it's astounding how little she's fleshed out in the mythos.

[@kylepessell1350]

Well she is Zeus' elder sister and thus one of the original Olympian siblings.

[@researcherchameleon4602]

There is a phenomenon where trees can produce a red liquid, that when it comes out, the gluging of are going into the cavity of red liquid only to be cut off by by the liquid existing, causing it to appear as if the tree is bleeding, pulse and all, which could have been the inspiration for this myth

[@hildegunstvonmythenmetz6095]

More likely for Dryads in general, no?

[@dieucondorimperial2509]

We often understate how important nature and agriculture deities were in old civilizations. Yes, thunder gods have style, but a goddess whose domain is the backbone of all civilizations is pretty important

[@mr-mr-101]

For a modern equivalent, imagine a god of computer chips. Its not as sexy as a god of storm or god of fire, but without their domain everything just goes kaput.

[@Dyneamaeus]

@@mr-mr-101 You, my good commenter, have never seen a truly sexy computer chip.

[@darling9413]

It’s easy to overlook gods of agriculture as just happy farmers but one has to remember that these gods domains determined if you died a slow and painful death. Plus, we do see she has a little more control over not just agricultural plants but the growth of all plants, as nothing grows during her depression session over Persephone. She is absolutely a nature goddess and as we have seen from Gaia, that is not the type of goddess to be messed with. She is one of the big six who were born of Cronus and like her brothers, her domain is not small, the closest to a ruler of the land as we can get if you think about it.

[@CollinMcLean]

And then we have Thor who is a god of Thunder and Agriculture

[@adambielen8996]

@@CollinMcLean no, Frey was the god of Agriculture.

[@notoriouswhitemoth]

The practical take-away is that food comes from the environment, so destroying your environment will inevitably lead to starvation

[@skrilllfury2120]

“This is definitely the anecdote Demeter likes to tell Hades when he comes over for family time and game night.” I can just imagine Hades being like “Holy sh*t that’s why he was in such an atrocious state when he came in, wasn’t it?”

[@unkindled6410]

some other dude said he was just a spectral head when thanatos wento to pick up his soul. man was so hungry he managed to crunch his own bones.

[@starmaker75]

Persephone: You now see where I get my dreadful side from.

[@willphoenix5464]

If I had a nickel for every time where Demeter and cannibalism appeared on the same myth, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice. (For reference, the Tantalus myth where she ate a chunk of his son's shoulder)

[@g.n.a4871]

I know where meme come from

[@starmaker75]

Given she a agriculture goddess and famines happened(especially pre modern times), the cannibalism stuff Probably is also connected

[@tinyetoile5503]

Is it really cannibalism if she's a goddess and he's a human, though...?

[@hildegunstvonmythenmetz6095]

@@tinyetoile5503 It counted as cannibalism, as Red says in her Video on it, and also Tantalus was probably going to eat a bit of his son himself (eww) because he held a banquet WITH the gods, and as host, he would also have eaten.

[@locomotivation309]

Make it three. Kronos DID eat his children, Demeter being one of them.

[@samiai8905]

Persephone being a queen of the dead makes a lot more sense now. Also the "I'm not a fertility goddess but..." has to be a sticker with her pin which I'm surprised wasn't linked with the video

[@zidanez21]

Honestly after this, no spring for 6 months was probably the best case scenario when Hades kidnapped Persephone

[@pokeyscorpion8224]

It would’ve been MUCH worse if humans did something wrong, instead of Zeus being a garbage person and humanity just being caught in the deific crossfire

[@midnight_rose2337]

@@pokeyscorpion8224 Zeus didn’t pay child support and pulled a “new phone who dis” on Demeter and had the audacity to decide the rest of Persephone’s eternity.

[@endplanets]

Sounds like a real event where people ruined the area: triggering a mass famine, economic crisis, losing your kid, and bursts of cannibalism.

[@StonedtotheBones13]

Us: ancient ppl were so stupid! How could you hunt anything to extinction?? Ancient ppl: y'all...

[@LucasGonzalez-rj9bk]

I want to take a moment to recognize Red’s artistic ability, and how with every Miscellaneous Myth that she makes, her paintings get more amazing!

[@emppu1012]

Demeter: "Oh, Hades, my dear! Did I ever tell you about the time I made a man *eat himself alive?* Hades: *visibly concerned tea sipping*

[@reyonXIII]

Best/worst part is that HE KNOWS, coz the guy is now his problem somewhere in Tartarus. Probably still eating himself alive, only for those parts to regenerate, but the act is no less painful.

[@syabilaazri7834]

Hades: yup...that my sister and my wife's mother.

[@maskedgamerjoker6148]

Hades at bed with Persephone after hours of tea time Hades: You mom is more mess up then Ares Persephone: *cover her face with her hands*

[@shanedoesyoutube8001]

@@maskedgamerjoker6148 Hades: *pats her head* I'm sorry dear

[@shanedoesyoutube8001]

@@maskedgamerjoker6148 Hades: *pats her head* I'm sorry dear

[@guilhermemarinho9861]

Demeter: Hey have I ever told you about that time I asked my super friend Limos to make a guy literally eat himself after he pissed me off? Hades: Yes you did. Many times. All those times looking straight into my eyes. Not breaking eye contact or even blinking. Many, many times.

[@reyonXIII]

"The guy is STILL eating himself in Tartarus. Sisyphus (whom I still hate), Pirithous, Tantalus, and Ixion are like 'we got off scot free by comparison!'"

[@merrittanimation7721]

Hades: You always mention it before I take Persephone for the winter

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

@@reyonXIII what did Sisyphus did to Hades? Hades rules the Tartaros?

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

@@merrittanimation7721 Also Hades: Also, you are aware I am the god of death right? Limos told me the story before too

[@jon-paulfilkins7820]

@@ianr.navahuber2195 In some versions, Sisyphus forced a bit of BSDM on Hades, we all know he's into role play, not bondage! Then he made a fool of Persephone, and you know how devoted hades is to his wife.

[@LadyOMyth]

Part of me really appreciates that last frame. I like the idea that Persephone and Hades go to visit Demeter and Demeter tells it like it's the funniest story ever. If that story doesn't keep Hades on his toes and treats her daughter right, I don't know what will. I also love Persephone's reaction. That frame just makes me smile so much.

[@faiir]

I'm her mother... And I don't even need a shotgun.

[@LucasTheDrgn]

I love how every time someone pisses Demeter off she just flips her hair and leaves and it's absolutely devastating.

[@renatocorvaro6924]

I suppose one way to look at Maestra's involvement is that, while she knew her father was cursed or whatever, she might not have known the reason. So it's possible she was trying to help her dad who, for all she knew, was basically just targeted by an evil force.

[@IbexWatcher]

I love that Demeter is the good, the bad, and the ugly of Nature. Respect it, you get a bountiful harvest, shelter, beautiful critters and lots of biodiversity. Disrespect it and you get ice ages, famine, and extinction level events! It’s so often nowadays that nature is categorized as one or the other and it’s cool to know the Greeks recognized the whole spectrum

[@starmaker75]

Nature will show us that while us humans may be intelligent, we still hairless apes

[@efaristi9737]

The ancients greeks, i think, didn't believe in all goodness or malevolence. All the gods are aspects of nature and since nature suck sometime, they do too.

[@krankarvolund7771]

Demeter is not the goddess of Nature, that's Gaia. Demeter is the godess of harvest and agriculture. But that also means that if you frown her, you'll get a bad harvest, which means scarcity of food or famine ^^'

[@omegraptorch3624]

There are two kinds of people in the world. The ones with the power over your survival and the ones who dig. You dig!

[@balanc-joy9187]

Well, that was pretty much the day to day of old civilizations, at least in one form or another, so it makes sense...

[@mhbones475]

Them: "What god scares you the most?" Me: "Demeter..." *full on 1000 mile stare* Them: "Wh... Why?" Me: Gestures at this myth.

[@vaultdweller1386]

We'll Demeter is the personification of nature itself. Everything considered that is probably the last concept you want to piss off cause nature is spiteful, petty, and savage. Sure if you know it well enough its quite useful and can even be kind to an extent, but until humans learn large scale terraforming that doesn't involve killing the planet then we shall forever be natures bitch.

[@a.h.s.3006]

The worst thing Zeus could do is take a relationship too far. The least thing Demeter could do is ending all human race by not going to work. And you'd be damned if she asks someone else's help.

[@AskMia411]

After this video, the starvation goddess is the winner in my book. Red made her look absolutely TERRIFYING

[@usandor4558]

Just dont cut down trees, you'll be fine probably

[@shanedoesyoutube8001]

@@usandor4558 yeah no, it's not forbidding cutting down trees, but controlling that bitchass. I mean, limit the extent you're gonna deforest. If you're gonna go all the way, make absolutely sure you reincarnate that shit later (aka replant). And if parts of the forest is labeled and declared government protected, fuk off from there or else I'm gonna banzai the fuk outta ya

[@smilesthroughfandoms5595]

I feel like if we start popularizing THESE types of environmental stories, well things won’t get better but more people would definitely talk about it

[@spiritedrenee9895]

Prayer Tablets: "Sacred tree, do not kill tree!" Erysichthon: "I wonder who this is for.”

[@daviddaugherty2816]

Erysicthon: Well, my name isn't "Tree", so obviously it's not for me and I'm perfectly fine to cut this thing down.

[@ManiaMac1613]

Between how clingy and possessive Demeter is implied to be with her daughter and how absolutely fucking terrifying she can be when provoked, I am now convinced Persephone was fully on board with being "kidnapped" by Hades.

[@yamiyomizuki]

it's worth pointing out that the name persephone comes from the root words perse meaning destruction and phone meaning people, which implies that she was an underworld goddess 1st and the whole kidnapped by hades thing got added later, probably influenced by the myth of Innana's descent into the underworld.

[@akanesaotome5924]

It's hard to belive she just didn't know what would happend if she eats anything in Underworld, and still only decide to eat pomegranat seed the last minute before Demeter show up to take her back, so yes, she was no doubt in love with Hades.

[@cthonisprincess4011]

While the narrative of Persephone running away is modern, there are ancient sources that state that Persephone loved Hades, and there are ancient sources that state that Persephone may not have been fond of her mother at all times.

[@akanesaotome5924]

@@cthonisprincess4011 Well, Demeter was an overprotective mother, so it's quite belivable that they had issues.

[@cthonisprincess4011]

@@akanesaotome5924 Pfft, we all know that, but it is hilarious that there are two (surviving) ancient sources that state that Persephone didn’t like her mother 🤣

[@christiankroemer4267]

Even before watching what Demeter actually did, I think we all basically assumed that Demeter would make his punishment and suffering as long as humanly possible. It doesn’t really seem to be in-character for her to roll out some quick-and-easy punishment. Turns out, pretty accurate.

[@petercocchiara659]

Demeter is probably one of the scariest Olympians. But at the same time, I still love her boons in Hades

[@aaronstephen3058]

Yeah, another Hades fan!

[@petercocchiara659]

@@aaronstephen3058 chill is a scary thing, but her cast can be pretty good if you get the right boon

[@jahimalnar7978]

Yeah, imagine being on the other end of that, she still scary but at least she's on our side

[@neptunnae]

@@petercocchiara659 her combo with artemis is my favorite boon, i love just casting and letting the crystals slowly drain a boss’ health away

[@petercocchiara659]

@@jahimalnar7978 yep

[@persephonethebookdragon9520]

I'm sorry, but the absolutely horrified expression on Hades' face when Demeter recounts this grisly tale of divine punishment is just hilarious to me. Followed by Persephone's look of, "Yes mom, we get it, thank you for recalling that story for the 6,731th time today." It feels like Demeter recalls that story to purposefully scare/threaten Hades into being good to her daughter. Despite the fact that Hades Is NOTHING But Loving And Loyal And Faithful to Persephone and Persephone ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Edit: HOLY SHIITAKE MUSHROOMS!!!!!!!!! I Posted This 4 HOURS Ago And Already It's Being Liked and replied to.

[@Boss_Isaac]

I imagine Demeter knows Hades is a loving, caring hubby, she just likes being able to intimidate the dreaded lord of the shades that everyone else fears.

[@pyromaniac2104]

Seriously Demeter give the poor lord of the underworld a break he's doing his damn best

[@speedypichu6833]

I can only imagine what it’s like for that long now that he is very dead and probably in the underworld

[@thegayghost872]

Minthe

[@artempokydko8305]

@@pyromaniac2104 and after all, this hungry guy after all coming to his realm anyway. Seems like his look down there is prety gross.

[@MintyCoolness]

I actually remember reading a version of this story where one of the King's woodcutter's actually pointed out that, 'dude, that's blood' and the King is like; "PFFFFFT IT'S JUST TREE SAP, YA PUSSIES!" Which...wow...

[@Ccerran]

I love how the main difference in all these stories is that Poseidon , while still compulsively sticking his trident in anything he can, unlike Zeus he seems to actually give a shit about the consequences........... *mostly*

[@concept5631]

Makes sense why he was head hancho before Zeus.

[@jessnalulila5552]

He has this habit, for some reason. Poseidon helped Caeneus, Helle, Halia, Pelops, Aphrodite, Amymone, Mestra and Melanippe I wonder if there was a joke about it: sleep with Poseidon and ask him for favor later, worked for me.

[@lordfriedrick7911]

Moral of the story: *DON'T PISS OFF DEMETER.*

[@Robynhoodlum]

I thought that was established in the Persephone and Hades video? Eternal ice age anyone?

[@lordfriedrick7911]

@@Robynhoodlum that was more Demeter being depressed instead of pissed off

[@anonymousfellow8879]

@@lordfriedrick7911 I view it moreas Demeter forcing Zeus to acknowledge her after he abducted her daughter to be a bride without her knowledge then refused to let Demeter see Persephone If the king of the gods refuses to make things right after he caused it, time to flex. Basically she unionized snd went on strike (and won.)

[@skyrogue1977]

Violence isn’t the answer. No violence is the question, and the answer is always YES.

[@Maria.Annette]

OSP CONDONES SENDING A MESSAGE.

[@shanedoesyoutube8001]

@@Maria.Annette ah, the among us moment where some joked about jocat getting Caesar'd by the both of them (blue+brutus= bluetus, and red... Uhhhh=casca) and one who wanted *Caesar'd* to be an official verb

[@AgentMaroon78]

At the end, Hades replies with “I’m one for torturing awful people, but what the fuck?!”

[@PipPanoma]

Now that he's down there, Erysichton should share the pool with Tantalus

[@reyonXIII]

"And this is coming from me, the guy who everybody is so scared of, they don't wanna say my name, coz they think it'll attract my attention and they'll die in the process. How am I the scary and feared one?"

[@anthonytorres-cruz1598]

@@reyonXIII Misunderstood guy

[@efaristi9737]

@@reyonXIII It's more Persephone that no one wanted to pronunce the name.

[@starmaker75]

Detemter: well emo, like this a remind to take good care of my daughter because you might be just a citizen of your kingdom.

[@ShaimingLong]

2:27 Damn that image is amazingly haunting! The clash of the classic simplicity in the art with that horrifyingly wonderful shading of Limos is just… Wow!

[@b3rz3rk3r9]

Demeter: ...So then he starts eating himself. Tell me, Hades, did he ever learn his lesson? Hades: *holding back gagging* I don't think so, as the only soul Thanatos could find was a Spectral head. Persephone, sweetie, excuse me. Persephone: No problem darling. *waits a few seconds* Mother, do you HAVE to tell that story everytime we visit you? Demeter: What? I thought your husband loved karmic punishments? Persephone: Yeah, but not to a sadistic degree. You literally drove someone to eat themselves; the cruelest we've gotten was sticking Tantalus in a pool under a tree where he can't eat or drink. Demeter: Well, if he can't handle my stories, then maybe he shouldn't have kidnapped my daughter. Persephone: Are we really doing this again? Demeter: Yes, we're doing this again. Persephone: DAMNIT MOTHER! I already visit you for half of the year. What more could you want. Demeter: Simple, sweetie. I want MY daughter back All Year, Every Gods-damned Year, AND NO MORE OF THAT MOPEY SON OF A B***! Hades: BLEGH!!!

[@Cynder044]

Oh no, poor Hades! XD

[@andreaitt2321]

Thanatos in the background: Every dinner...

[@andres_david25]

They're siblings, they share the same mother, therefore she'll be dauther of a b***

[@jordanloux3883]

Hades gets back to the underworld and hugs Cerberus for an hour...

[@Naoise012]

@@andres_david25 I'm sorry, what? Who are you saying are siblings?

[@doppelganger3458]

I did an essay on Erysikthion once. Learned about Limos and that Poesidon isn’t always horny

[@Nitro89]

No that would be Zeus

[@efaristi9737]

@@Nitro89 Zeus is not just a horny asshole, hard to believe but he do has some good qualities.

[@dumblehades]

@@efaristi9737 Like murder!

[@The_Evening_Sun]

@@efaristi9737 like Patricide

[@efaristi9737]

@@The_Evening_Sun Cronos isn't dead, Titans can't be killed. And would really reproach that to Zeus after Cronos literally swallowed whole all his siblings?

[@calico_queen8976]

Considering how he lived in world where the chances of you getting seriously messed up by some sort of deity was higher than you finding a working ice cream machine at McDonald's, he was more or less asking for it.

[@TlalocTemporal]

That's a hilarious simile, but I think you got it backwards.

[@oceanberserker]

The guy had all the warning in the world and still went through with it. Whatever happens next, happens.

[@kaiserhundkek2531]

Kaiserhund: *chances of finding a working ice cream machine in McDonald's in the USA. There actually plentiful in Brazil, hell some McDonald's there are just ice cream and nothing else.

[@Soupan-in8hi]

Loved Hades's horrified expression at 3:22, he's like “Dear Gaea! What the fuck, Demeter?!

[@pRahvi0]

He's beginning to understand the affinity for retribution, which his wife has shown on the occasional bad day, is vey much running in the family. He also solemnly swears not to have children any time soon, since the world is not ready for a third in line of that sort of goddesses.

[@Tarnthewarrior]

Hades:...sis... you're scaring me... Persephone: Mom you're embarrassing me

[@VictoriaStarratt]

@@Tarnthewarrior do you mean embarrassing?

[@Tarnthewarrior]

@@VictoriaStarratt yes, auto correct is a bitch

[@joaocisne556]

@@pRahvi0 they have at least two, Zagreus and the goddess of the phantoms I never remember the name

[@andrewgoh8130]

That line about Demeter telling this story whenever Hades came over got my laughing like a maniac for a solid minute 😂

[@Ultimus31]

I do like in the last frame where everything is visibly darker around Hades, and Persephone has little flowers nearby. Cute little lovely details

[@rachelthornton4442]

*(Erisychthon chops tree in half)* *(The tree starts to bleed)* Woodcutter: Are trees meant to do that? Erisychthon: Let me check. *(Erisychthon Googles it)* *(Erisychthon chops his phone in half)* Erisychthon: Yes they are.

[@kevinbre7563]

Always wondered why the Greeks called Persephone "Dread Persephone." Hear this story about Demeter. Me: Oooh, it runs in the family.

[@jascrandom9855]

And also because Persephone might have been the original deity of death in Mycenean Greece.

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

@@jascrandom9855 wait if persephone was the deity of death, what is hades a god of?

[@techpriestemily]

@@ianr.navahuber2195 The underworld. If memory serves, he was never the god of death.

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

@@techpriestemily so what's the difference between being god of the underworld and god of death?

[@jon-paulfilkins7820]

@@ianr.navahuber2195 Hades, buildings services and maintenance, Persephone, the actual company within.

[@seanfulldark]

You know it's probably even more disturbing, when Thanatos tells the story, at the local office party. "So Than? What's the weirdest story, of the souls you have brought down to the underworld?" Than. "Well I this pile of misshapen meat, because the guy literally ate himself. I think it was from my Bosses mother in law. asking a friend of hers that she doesn't talk to to curse a guy." Also other lesson I can take a cue from me as if the tree is bleeding do not cut it!

[@Lionstar16]

It's just like what Red said at the beginning of her Niobe video - "When will these people learn not to piss off the gods?" Especially Demeter, who once nearly ended all of humanity because she was upset her daughter was missing. Another excellent video from OSP :) PS: LOVE the new Demeter and Hestia pins

[@AdmiralBroom]

Fun fact: a version of this story is part of a play called Metamorphosis, a play that is notable for telling the tales of various Greek myths all while most of the actors are in a giant pool. We had to read it for advanced theatre and it was a fun time

[@Xbalanque84]

...Why the pool?

[@AdmiralBroom]

@@Xbalanque84 no clue. Guess they thought it would be fun

[@jmurray1110]

Imagine the crinkling from the rehearsal

[@unkindled6410]

you mean the myth characters are in a pool or just the narrators that are modern humans? otherwise i imagine theire the souls of these dudes that died/got screwe by the gods (cause those are what most of these stories about) now chilling in tartarus in one of hades pools or something. (maybe its thantalus pool)

[@alepenagorbe9135]

1:17 Wow. That tree is BEAUTIFUL. Got some powerful Ghibli vibes. You're getting WAY too good at drawing.

[@VictoriaStarratt]

Take a look at her comic

[@styrax7280]

Now I wonder if Limos and Demeter being unable to be near each other is connected to the idea of them being two sides of the same coin; á la "have you ever seen them in the same room?"

[@MrPooleish]

I love learning about minor deities that no one would worship. I never even knew there was a Goddess of Starvation.

[@tylerfuller-battles8370]

Its not that they weren't worshipped, its that they were worshipped to not do things to the person praying to them.

[@annijaklamer]

"The judges of bake-off just hate matcha" was not an insight I expected to be in a video about ancient mythology, but it does clear up some things

[@jmurray1110]

More advise being rose is too risky and prue loves her booze

[@RainbowGod666]

3:41 hades goes "and i think to myself... WTF" every time demeter says this story

[@nirast2561]

Red: "The Wrath Of Demeter" Hades: "Ah, crud, I had plans today. Oh, long-haired-crimson-lady, which one is it?" Red: "Oh, this isn't about you. You do make a cameo at the end, though!" Hades: "Oh, neat! I'll go walk Spot, call me when you need me!"

[@tec-jones5445]

1:43 "I grow from grass. And your ass bears a strong familial resemblance." I gotta start using that one.

[@sheikbacchus3909]

Ya know for the goddess of harvest, agriculture, fertility and sacred law that punishment was pretty metal. So remember kids take only what you need, and if it's something of Demeter's DON'T TAKE IT

[@Kurosakio]

Or at least ask first! How many of these stories could have been avoided by just going, "Hey this (insert person, place, or thing) is something I want. Can we make a deal?"

[@anonymousfellow8879]

@@Kurosakio considering these trees were all dryads, especially the tree the king chopped himself after boasting against Demeter *then did it* …it’s entirely justified, poetic, and laser-focused on the asshole himself. Only the king was cursed, not the laborers or any other members of his court. Meanwhile other gods tend to have…much wider ranges with their restitution until another god turns it into a Quest for some latest Sad Zeus Demi Spawn. (When really. They could solve like half the grief if they just go Snip Snip on Zeus. The most that’ll happen is that another Aphrodite or monsters will pop up.) But in general? Mass chaos against people who don’t deserve it. The One (1) time Demeter did drag a large area into a conflict (all of humanity), she was advocating against *Zeus.* (Hades too, but mostly Zeus for kidnapping and marrying off her daughter, then stonewalling her. So Demeter did something about it.)

[@Kurosakio]

@@anonymousfellow8879 I'm not saying that the issue involved didn't warrant the response. I was just saying that so many of the issues in the myths presented to us would have ended very differently had the individuals in question taken the time to ask themselves, "Is this really such a good idea?" or taken the time to reach out to the gods in question. It's actually the whole point of most of these myths, they were a series of cautionary tales that attempted to put people in the position of, "Hey, maybe I should think about what I'm doing and if it's really such a good idea to do something that could potentially turn the gods against me?" I apologize if I wasn't entirely clear in my comment. Also Zeus is the kind of misogynistic frat boy that ends up on the sex offenders registry but still gets preferential treatment thanks to having clout and the right complexion and it's thoroughly disgusting how he comports himself through the lens of modern society. Then again? The entirety of the Ancient Greek and Roman Pantheons (I do separate the two as one is a cultural overlay of the other) are not without their morally reprehensible behaviors. That said? It's part of the reason why they still make for good allegorical situations to make one see where the hero screws the pooch and acts as a moment where the reader can go, "Ah, I shouldn't do that!" and be a better person for it.

[@mrswb]

everyone's discussing how Persephone would be feeling akward having her mom and husband talk about this, but do we really think the Dread Queen of the Dead wouldn't be even more into this than her mother?

[@lowkeyarki7091]

Or how her husband who over looks everyone that has ever died would be remotely disturbed?

[@CalebFarmer-c7k]

I think it's more of the fact that Persephone is portrayed as innocent in greek myths. She was kidnapped picking flowers

[@bondfall0072]

So basically, Demeter is that meme of the lorax saying "i am the lorax, i speak for the tree's. The trees say shut up or i break your knee's."

[@tnecniw]

2:00 That... is the most intimidating picture I have seen in a LONG LONG LONG TIME XD

[@dustincameron787]

And yet Hades is the one everybody seems to fear. Meanwhile almost everybody around him has enough nasty tales to fit a horror anthology, but nah, it's fine.

[@elbiesee]

Litmos is absoultely terrifying, and I cannot wait to purchase the OSP merch with her on it.

[@Silentbob1494]

That's easily the most hardcore curse i've ever heard of. Well played, gods.

[@hugsandchaos9554]

Hades expression is like “Alright, I’m officially terrified”

[@projectember728]

The Wrath of Demeter teaches us that damage to nature always brings severe consequences and that impulsivity isn’t really a great trait

[@debbiechan8657]

This story kinda reminds me of one of the "four evil creatures" in ancient Chinese mythology called Taotie. To put it simply, it's basically the manifestation of hunger and greed, and there's a story about it where it was so gluttonous that it ate its own body, leaving only the head, thus it appears on ancient artifacts only as a head instead of a full beast. Interestingly though, Taotie is sometimes regarded as a guardian of some sort, and people sometimes put it on accessories and charms to fight off evil or sth.

[@Eg-ej6nx]

"Erystchthon, you're not you when you're hungry!" *Throws a snickers* Erystchthon: "You're right I'm NOT me when I'M HUNGRY!" *EATS HIMSELF WHOLE* "Not quite what I meant bud..."

[@MorriganReads]

The first time I heard this story, Erysichthon was cutting down Demeter’s grove to build a hall to have feasts in, making his punishment doubly ironic.

[@poppunpresents]

I love the expressions at the end though: Demeter looks like she's sharing a charming anecdote about her neighbours' futile efforts at de-weeding their lawns Hades look says "So that's why he arrived looking like that....Dionysus, can you make this a little stronger? Maybe festival grade?" And Persephone's just "Mom, please, not the Ersichthon story again! Also your Dryad friend says hello and thank you for the present you sent last time"