PERFECT POWER: Turbo Toyota GR86! // Nürburgring

[@neversettle7666]

Loving the line up of realistic and accessible cars of late. Sure we all love a GT3RS, but the bang for your bucks cars is so hard to beat.

[@mgcharoudin]

Me too!

[@Detail_Papi]

100% agreed!

[@austinmcandrews3124]

10000%

[@ebf1003]

Absolutely agree. I'm rather tired of the non stop six figure plus pi55ing contest.

[@CarsWithFrank]

I want to see Misha take a 08-10’ Cobalt SS Turbo for a lap (held the Nurburgring FWD record back in the day)

[@miguelcollado5438]

Best quote ever, lol - "Whatever rubs, eventually will stop rubbing"

[@xxvjvxx]

where im from its called self clearancing

[@TheMikecanit]

@@xxvjvxx ah yes, its a technique as old as time. If you don't like holes in things you can cut or reshape materials tho ;P

[@Gaz86JPN]

LMAO it's true!

[@anthonypierson1593]

I installed new brake pads for the first time - I was concerned because they rubbed even when not pressing the brake pedal. But apparently it will stop rubbing after they are broken in. I only did my fronts but I'm going to do my rears, install new brake lines, replace brake fluid with motul rbf 600, and front and back grease the caliper pins to ensure complete release

[@alex.arango]

Most normal conversation between two men that just met: "How big is your turbo?" "Like your balls maybe"

[@adamjung6855]

"Like your balls" "Big or small??" LOL

[@WesleyOuma]

Cringey af

[@efeisik0]

⁠okay wesley👍

[@s70driver2005]

I get what he was going for but it probably would've sounded better if he said "big, like your balls!" Or something like that.

[@dubsessed9790]

​@s70driver2005 agreed, but to be fair, ze Germans are not known for being great at humor.

[@ShannonCanning-u7v]

It's people who speak english as a second language trying to make a joke. Have to show some leniency if it doesn't hit the mark as intended.

[@scoobsmcgee9325]

"Whatever rubs, eventually it will stop rubbing." I laughed until I started coughing. All better now.

[@Gohsted]

I'm ffkn dying right now here at work and people are looking at me funny lmfao. It's OK all better now.

[@yugimotobutjacked3231]

Turn the radio up eh

[@skitzvitz]

Nothing wrong with self clearancing parts.

[@Thickercarton]

Better brakes and tweaked suspension/tires and they might have been able to keep up with the gt4

[@robbierector1669]

This is a true statement my 370z used to scrap pretty much every hill and speed bump and now the plastic coverings are smooth as a hockey puck and still functional, moral of the story is DRIVE UR CAR

[@illuminate4]

Seeing a GR86 waste GT Porsches on track was a sight to behold! definitely driver skill involved too but the fact that it was even possible is crazy.

[@thusmarshal8815]

That's the Subaru chasi and power... Fun fact the gt86 and BRZ started life as a rwd shortened 190hp ej204 2007 Subaru legacy and the suspension design on the legacy is from 2004 still used on the gr86

[@Schaufelor]

@@thusmarshal8815 What is the better car? Gt86 or BRZ?

[@thusmarshal8815]

@@Schaufelor it's the same the one has more advertising they both a Subaru so taking a Subaru to the Subaru dealership is more logical

[@Schaufelor]

@@thusmarshal8815 ok, thanks :)

[@jasonhackett6700]

@@Schaufelor Gr86 not only looks better but has a different rear end suspension setup that allows it to be a little more tail happy than the BRZ.

[@matthewwain9958]

That olive color looks sooooo good.

[@bombardierboerboels]

Is that a Porsche colour

[@stephen300o6]

Some shitty army paint.

[@the_mcmartin]

9:24 that shift was the most satisfying. Also love the small hints of snail sounds every now and then.

[@volvo09]

You can feel the "keep up"!

[@Zsword92]

5:42 also

[@arnekemps754]

When a car makes 2 adult men giggle you know it's a good one. Love the GR86, been wanting to get one as well. The turbo on low boost seems like a perfect match for it.

[@Watts378]

Great lap man!! The owner laughs like he just devised an evil plan - lol I love it!

[@nagasako7]

He's a German Toyota fan who wants to break hearts of Porsche drivers all over Germany lol

[@Antoinegt4-zt8ul]

Hey Misha, didn't know it was you until the end of the lap ! I was wondering how come a GR86 pulled so fast before Flugplatz 🤣 355hp, that's how come... Fun laps !

[@chickcharmbrother]

By the way. Sorry for speaking strong language against you in the video. I did not mean that; I was full of adrenaline. Please forgive me and dont feel offended.

[@Antoinegt4-zt8ul]

@@chickcharmbrother No worries mate, all good ! I do the same thing all the time 😂 Just didn't feel it was safe to keep flat out to pass you and the other car at 200km/h, so I played it safe 🙂

[@chickcharmbrother]

@@Antoinegt4-zt8ul thank you for accepting my apologies. Next Currywurst is on me😉

[@caduguardrailkingowo]

that was a good battle

[@Wilowp2kk]

😎👍👍

[@Bobbysbeans]

As a Aussie gotta love seeing that red VF hsv Commodore first time I've ever seen a Aussie car in one of your videos lol

[@craigbuchanan1126]

im from nz and i was happy to see the vf in all its glory!

[@MrH00t]

Cheeky VF HSV at 12:25, that car is a long way from home

[@patrickhooper2843]

AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE!!!

[@Syncopia]

OI OI OI

[@ThatNubb]

Might be the Vauxhall equivalent from the UK hard to see

[@deathtoming2201]

FARKKK NICE EYE MATE

[@dennisarnott9854]

They sold these in the UK new

[@whiteunclerukus]

Seeing a lot of misinformed comments here, the problem with the 135c oil temp is the OIL PRESSURE, yes the oil itself can handle running that hot but at that temp your oil pressure is significantly lower than what’s needed to keep the engine properly lubricated and you start to skim bearings.

[@vvevvevvvv]

People are just generally scared to see big numbers on the dash. Not really understanding much on how the engine works.

[@SereneSpeed]

True. Though I’m sure the stock garbage 0-20 Toyota oil is long gone. A quality 5-40 should be good at that temp. A good 50 weight is recommended for sustained temps over ~135c/275f.

[@whiteunclerukus]

@@SereneSpeed Yup, in this case if he’s still running the factory 0-20 that motor is as good as gone lol

[@whiteunclerukus]

@@vvevvevvvv exactly

[@chickcharmbrother]

I have the Motul 5W-40 300Vcompetition in it. it can handle these temps, But I will take care of that. Will Not take long 😉

[@FireEye-zd4fm]

Brake cooling ducts of a Porsche GT3 can be fitted to the wishbones if not already done. I don't drive as agressive as Misha but did 6 laps in a row last year with a first gen BRZ and different pads/rotors. Oil temp got a bit high at 135°C, would upgrade the cooler and I hope a baffle plate is installed. My GT86 specialist recommends 5W50 on track. Coolant temp seems to be running away as well, 108°C is a bit much compared to stock 88°C imho.

[@chickcharmbrother]

I do have brake ducts, as well as an Oilcooler, also different fluid and all you can do with the stock calipers. They are just to small. It is Not easy to find something as an upgrade which is good and also TÜV approved. But Misha and Lapo now got me something 😉

[@chickcharmbrother]

And another cooling mod is also on the way 😊

[@FireEye-zd4fm]

@@chickcharmbrother Seems like you are from Recklinghausen area, there is one dealership with lots of GT86 racing experience in Warstein. They are also working on GR86s. Not too far away and easy to find via google.

[@buckrogers2828]

@@chickcharmbrother As long as TUV approved you can crash safe in the knowledge your Piddly little brakes are Approved!. Sometimes "Sensible" German and Common sense just don't mesh!.

[@cw205mi16]

Strapping a big turbo is the cause of that massive temp gains, definitely needs a big oil cooler and that will help keep coolant temps in check

[@ardienn]

In spain we got that Circuit pack option for the gr86 with upgraded brake kit, 6 piston ap racing and bigger discs and more stuff, kinda worth and awesome, im with this guy, you got biggest balls ever driving like that :D

[@acalthu]

That was an awesome drive, and the car seemed so good. The power looked perfect for the gearing. And the comment "whatever that is rubbing, will eventually stop rubbing", spoken like a true race driver.

[@heinedenmark]

I'm most impressed by the super slick manual gearbox.

[@CrispyBreadcrust]

12:23 someone needs to let this man drive a Holden Clubsport or SS on the burg would love to see it

[@Human-NPC]

agreed

[@JeLifeCoach]

You have been killing it lately with all these member videos! Make sure to take time to rest for family and friends. -JE

[@4pexPredator]

TOP 5 of the year.We missed that real time Misha's opinion/emotions.With just a turbo,brake kit and a suspension can keep up with GT4.

[@MrHeksas]

My friend has a 2017 86 with a HKS super charger kit. Its very fun to drive!

[@mitchellsteindler]

Well...thats a fast car. It just goes to show, proper weight balance, proper drivetrain layout, good tires, and enough power makes for a VERY fast car.

[@obkf-too]

The next time would be truly amazing, this setup is really good, keeping the responsiveness instead of delayed power was the right call.

[@VaderMonkeyGaming]

Not gonna lie, I can hear "boosty noises" and that moistness has set in. What a little track weapon!! ❤

[@matisse_amant]

11:32 Ohh, damm a GT3 RS, that's cool

[@forceplayer98ka56]

That's a track demon forsure 👌🏼

[@jmyerxa]

It was not going full throttle

[@ervanngaraffa]

Make him install a propre oil cooler. 135°C is crazy

[@chickcharmbrother]

There is one installed, But just for street application

[@yugimotobutjacked3231]

You only upgrade the cooling after you destroyed everything from power mods. How else do you learn hahaha

[@luke_rr4474]

Great video! Can't wait to see your old GR86 with the NA stroker kit and how much power it puts out. Cheers Misha

[@doubleAAshotgun]

Just got this on my rec and I gotta say it's so cool to see someone tearing it up on the track hope to have a car like this someday!

[@gar24407]

EFR7163 is the turbo used on Indy cars. Excellent turbo. Now this lap shows the drawbacks of a FMIC, it blocks airflow to the radiator when it needs more cooling. So the water and oil temp slowly climb has the engine just cant get rid of the heat.

[@romank1099]

really liked the enthusiasm of the owner! The car fits him really well, wonder how often he tracks it... Shame the brakes were not up to the task (especially with increased power). Hopefully get another vid of the car when its fully completed 😁

[@chickcharmbrother]

All Problems will be sorted, and I think misha is in for another lap with all Parts on 💯 %

[@BroVCam]

WOW!!!! And these are nice and realistic mods! Not going too extreme at all! This setup or close to it. Should be offered off the lot! Awesome work! ✌🏽❤✊🏽

[@WastedThyme]

After seeing all of the bang for your buck cars you’ve done, I would really love to see you do a 4th generation turbo mazda 3! That car is stock at 250hp and 320lb/ft of torque, and I’ve always wanted to see how it would perform on the Nurburgring!

[@seanomar3536]

Awesome drive, Gear ratios are perfect!!!!

[@adampopper8140]

It needs a oil cooler. The oil was 130+ in the finish line...

[@felixcortes5005]

Amazing build, looking like a boss on that track with no helmet.

[@Johnmith626]

He is definately one of the funniest and coolest passenger ever

[@volvo09]

I like that he kept the internal wastegate / recirc valve... I really don't like cars that "sneeze" every shift.

[@stoneeh]

3:49 brevity is the soul of wit 🙂

[@FriendlyIntentions]

Deff need a bigger oil cooler. 135c on oil is VERY VERY hot.

[@DillonShelburn]

That was my first thought. My gr86 blew up at 253°F, with less than 1,000 miles on my oil change. 19k miles of street driving. These engines needs thick oil and to be changed very 3,000 miles, if not more

[@JPTinioMedia]

​@DillonShelburn The gr86 platform also has a flaw with silicone and the oil pick up.

[@DillonShelburn]

@@JPTinioMedia oh know, i had a 2022 GR86 and have been through all of this. There’s a channel (900BRZ) and he’s done a tome of instrumented, measured testing it’s been proven not as the root cause of the oiling issues. It’s moreso the pan, baffling, and other issues that reside within the block. The silicone/rtv issue is a problem, but it’s not the main problem.

[@FriendlyIntentions]

​@@DillonShelburn Yep, in a race format I would not let oil go over 115 continuous and maybe a peak at 120c for a short amount of time. Oil pressure really dips after 110c. For example Motul 8100 x-cess 5w40 @ 100C has a viscosity of 14.2 mm²/s. If you have 50 psi of oil pressure @ 100c @ 120C oil pressure is approx. 29psi if viscosity is 8.32 mm²/s using the Walther formula. I dont even want to know how low it is at 135C

[@Krushard]

0:22 there was a german attempt to make a joke

[@jmmch3358]

Excellent! Just what the GR86/BRZ needed: More power and better brakes. A Porsche chaser.

[@oszb]

Nice knowledge depth for the car, will be fun to see it when it returns complete. (or at least in a more complete form, as I'm assuming it will never be truly complete) Turbo spool-up sounds amazing.

[@theredliner1]

nice setup nice drive . grip perfect and misha rocks again .

[@FairladyS130]

No mention of lubrication improvements, leave it stock and the bearings will be shot if pulling race G's.

[@lukewalker1051]

Amazing driving. Seeing Misha get passed was quite a sight.

[@karstenmeinders4844]

Impressive modifications, especially the broad usable rev range. I am keen to see the lap after the announced more track focussed updates!

[@Lofi.z34]

This car looks very fun & light to drive, and I love the heat management he kept in mind with his kit.

[@misguidance__]

Misha is an animal!! Loving the more affordable cars recently

[@scottchelmford7136]

The efr turbo has a Ti compressor wheel and spools super fast. Its used on indy cars

[@ReubenAStern]

That GT4 has a pretty good driver. And this car kept up with it. Massive potential. You might have left it behind with a stiffer chassis and better brakes.

[@TastierBackInThe80s]

Love it! Thanks for sharing Misha.

[@hondanickx]

Great lap ,these cars can be a lot of fun.About the brakes my 2018 civic has the same weight ,same size discs and a single piston caliper with about the same brake pad size.They however are 25mm thick stock where as the gr86 are 24mm. I think the biggest culprit is that the discs can't get rid of the heat fast enough .294x24mm with a double piston caliper vs the BBK which is at least 330x28mm. I think a 300x28mm disc with internal pillar vanes would work with the stock calipers without overheating.

[@daenesh]

"GO Get some coffee or groceries or whatever" - to a Porsche is wild LOL

[@jasonosunkoya]

Also you can get an 86 with brembo brakes, also who puts the turbo and no brakes, this guy is wild!

[@saynotothegreatreset]

Safety always first😊

[@coolguy_2997]

The build is under progress, so everything is done step by step in real life. I’m glad he came this way now so we will be able to see the second video too

[@chickcharmbrother]

I run different pads(endless), hard lines , Racing fluid, different Discs. As well as brake ducts. For Street use it was ok. I have to get something with TÜV , which is Not easy in Germany. But Stay tuned, the next upgrade is on the way

[@vyviid]

As long as the driver isn’t a dipshit… the stock brakes can handle the cars weight and speed just fine, you just can’t outdrive the car and need to know its limits. Brake fade would happen at stock power when lapping like this aswell, just not as fast.

[@L86END]

Brakes, man! The blitz brake kit is by far my favorite aesthetically. The 4 piston big caliper kit fits 17s, although nobody really runs it. But yep. Enjoying my kit. Not really suited for autox cuz uhhh😅 a little more brake bias in the rear, and now it's slipping the rear on the potenza RE71s with stock power. So if youre gonna go big, do all 4 i suggest😂😂

[@RealGreyGhost]

This is the only turbo GR86 that uses the EFR turbo. Wish more shops had an option to use an EFR turbo for their kits, not just for the GR86, but for any turbo kit. They spool so quick. I had one on my Evo 8 before I sold it, not even the stock turbo spooled so fast and definitely way faster than the GT35R I previously had on it.

[@lacinagy9344]

Great lap Misha. I love this car❤

[@MichelLopez]

Nice to see the temperature of the oil and coolant. Thank you

[@Sofaninja326]

HELL TO THE YEA! I love the new platform so much more!

[@vectorphresh]

Man that car is a brute! It looks like the extra power is well balanced with the suspension, giving a controllable amount of turn in :P I want one

[@domlouis2179]

Always more fun driving a "slow car" balls out than a fast car reduced. Superb!

[@jiriloukota1450]

The color is fantastic! What would be better?: This power gr86 with some brakes etc. or OG M2 with some small mods (cooling, brake pads...).

[@foxcournyea]

they made a TS sub model over here in the states, with a Brembo brake package from the factory and STI tuned suspension on the Subaru variant

[@sshah2545]

Jesus. I don’t know how this car goes so fast carrying those big plutonium balls with you.. unbelievable driving

[@funfzylinder]

Thanks for providing a link for the turbo kit!

[@volvo09]

It's a nice kit, I like that it acts as stock, no loud wastegate or sneezing blow off valve. It's like the car was factory turbo.

[@funfzylinder]

@@volvo09 i've looked at its price, it starts from 9k euro with extras it goes above 12k, too much money for a car like this.

[@chickcharmbrother]

@@funfzylinderna soll ja auch funktionieren, das gibt es leider nicht für Kleingeld

[@milkini1979]

​@@funfzylinder Dann zeig mir für den Preis doch bitte ein vergleichbares Turbokit mit Zulassung/TÜV, das >30% Mehrleistung hat 😉

[@funfzylinder]

@@milkini1979 I'd rather buy faster car instead of spending 12k euro on a 35k euro car.

[@davidrogers4066]

Such a capable car in the right hands. That GT4 definitely suffered from some ego damage with you trailing so close behind him haha

[@jasonosunkoya]

86 Turbo is what we loveeee

[@jadadpe3873]

The GR86, at least in the US, has an optional Brembo brake kit + sachs dampers for $1500. Although I'm not sure exactly how much better they are, it seems like a good price for the package.

[@mattmah7164]

11:06 It is what its made for!!!!! Brilliant said

[@Pandaproductions516]

"whatever is rubbing will eventually stop rubbing" brilliant

[@Bigturboguy]

I am Top 10 around nords on forza motorsport in certain classes and i love watching your lines, one day i will make it there (australian).

[@esko23q]

Them oil temps are too high - most 86s owners I know that's boosted is running an oil cooler its a must 130c is doing damage to that engine. Also a big brake upgrade would be great. stock breaks are not cut out for track day. Any 86 setup right and around 350hp to 400hp is going to be a track weapon in a hands of a capable driver

[@Scheltokeeper]

Beautiful car and colour! 👌🏻👍🏻

[@jammindesigns7135]

Aweeeeesome run with the Porsche!!! Love the turbo on this. Need this from factory!!!!! Or a turbo kit!

[@robbiesanchez53]

Im pretty sure he meant Big Balls because Misha has them big. amazing driver. love the videos from California. salute comrade

[@gryphon123456]

Great lap. would a super charger have been more natural feeling?less maintenance? fun video!

[@edgarsanchez6554]

Seen many videos many cool owners, this guy is top 10.

[@chickcharmbrother]

Thank you 😜

[@stevensheehy4242]

​@chickcharmbrother where did you get your diffusers from. Front and side. Looks sick and I want them !

[@chickcharmbrother]

@@stevensheehy4242 It is from Toyota. The J Sports Kit.

[@maticcro5992]

Another great vid, Racing with GT4 was epic

[@singious]

The performance of this car is top-notch, a man’s dream car.

[@microfx]

Great symbiosis between Misha and the car! Great lap! Great car!

[@nitrovent]

A friend of mine has a tubocharged BRZ and though he went with a smaller turbo and is running something around 1 Bar for 290hp, I was surprised how responsive and almost linear the throttle and accelleratio was at low rpms before the boost came in. Though I was only passenger it felt much more useful for racing than e.g. my Focus ST with that comically small turbo providing peak pressure at 3.2k rmps with a conservative tune.

[@BjorkensteinvanJurgenheim]

"Whatever rubs will eventually stop rubbing" words to live by brother

[@TakumiFujiwara80]

i cried when he pinched 2 times the high kerb.... good that the owner keep a straight face

[@Beebbarb]

Look at those seats move... Def need an upgrade !

[@tianned]

8:46 the way cayman closed the gap is just mind blowing

[@Antoinegt4-zt8ul]

Yeah, the GR86 was mindblowingly fast in the straights but on braking I had to lift off a lot behind Misha. But hey, GT4 VS GR86, kind of normal the chassis of the GT4 is going to be faster, but that GR86 was very impressive, it was fun !

[@chickcharmbrother]

@@Antoinegt4-zt8ul next time we will be on compareable level, I promise you 😜🤘

[@Antoinegt4-zt8ul]

@@chickcharmbrother Anytime !

[@austinwolfe2373]

“Do you feel zee torque?”😂

[@damidoxgaming3891]

Not the biggest fan of the colour but the car build is one of the nicest I've seen

[@SacCarScene]

He pushed it to it's limits, I was afraid the brakes were going to fail. The Brembos would be a good addition to that car as well as track wheel and tire set up.

[@Dara-ih6jq]

It’s a crime that Toyota never made a turbo version of that car from the factory like the Civic Type R but the GT86 equivalent. They missed out on such an amazing opportunity.

[@barrage4u]

There's a good chance the next iteration will be a hybrid with the GR yaris 1.5L or the new inline 4 cyl 2L turbo

[@Si-bw3is]

Chasing always makes the best videos. More plz.

[@BrendanEvan]

That GT4 driver was probably so confused 😆 Car costing $80k less staying right in the bumper.

[@Antoinegt4-zt8ul]

Nah I'm good ! I'm used to having tuned cars dropping me on the straight. But in the corners, the GT4's chassis is spot on 👌

[@garagecedric]

​@@Antoinegt4-zt8ul Always these comments in mishas vids :) They probably have never been to the ring, where you quickly get used to being passed by worn out e36 driven by a local, regardless of how fast you are 😂

[@Antoinegt4-zt8ul]

@@garagecedric Exactly, if there is one track in the world who will get a cocky driver off it's high horses, its the NBR ! Coming with a GT2RS and getting passed by a polo who knows he doesn't need to lift in Flugplatz 😄 I've done 180 laps and I feel like I just started !

[@BrendanEvan]

@@garagecedricI was there this summer 😂 Edit: driving of course, not just watching. It’s intense and very tight.

[@EndeavorabIe]

awesome video and demonstration

[@RA-oy6bg]

Wow that really changed my mind on spending big money on an expensive track weapon. This was miraculous to watch. This car looked like a hoot to drive. 28k with a 5-7k turbo kit for this much fun to keep up with a GT4 which is 2-3x the price is wild

[@Antoinegt4-zt8ul]

Buy a GT4 🤣

[@RA-oy6bg]

@@Antoinegt4-zt8ul don’t tempt me I’ve been looking at them 🤣

[@Antoinegt4-zt8ul]

@@RA-oy6bg ​ Best sports car out there in my opinion. Not to much power, great to learn and you can still male a lot of progress and be very quick with it. Very reliable. I've done about 25-30 000 km of track with it. I love it !

[@RA-oy6bg]

@@Antoinegt4-zt8ul that’s fantastic to hear. . I fell in love when I was watching misha wip around the 981 gt4 on here and watching it keep up with a GTR

[@Antoinegt4-zt8ul]

@@RA-oy6bg It's a very capable car, when you see Thilo driving à 7'02 with a 718 that's absolutely amazing ! I'd like to get under 7'25 this season, would already be a big win for me.

[@bigkaswrx8115]

Owned a 2012 gt86 for a while. Superb handling , great sound. Needed a turbo 🤷‍♂️🤣

[@marcdave_]

I love the foot cam helps me learn with the heel and toe and drive faster

[@makifrable]

My goodness the temperatures. Definetely needs some cooling upgrade, besudes that it pulls great.

[@Weather_Nerd]

Great car and driving, hope to see it again in the future with more braking/handling and cooling mods

[@M4mba98]

Holger is a genius

[@Tylox-7]

Thats my dream cad😭 hopefully when u will be able to drive or afford a car there wont be weird laws forcing to electric😭