BANNED & Too Hot: Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE! // Nürburgring

[@DanteGonxhja]

What a wonderful experience thank you Misha! Just to clarify the transmission issue is entirely my fault. I've done countless laps in other racetracks without stopping and overheating but this time I sent the car to a mechanic I shouldn't have and they did an awful job replacing my transmission oil, didn't drain the old oil properly and overfilled with new oil. Weirdly the transmission never did overheat in automatic performance shift mode. I will fix this issue and do some more upgrades to the car and hopefully I'll take it to the ring again with Misha.

[@GenkiElite]

Transmission issues aside. We could all see from the gigantic smile on your face that you were having the time of your life. in my opinion. Worth it. Sweet ride BTW.

[@cw_zl1]

The 1LE has a different Oil pan with a smaller stand pipe, so it does not hold as much fluid as the ZL1 transmission. Thats to reduce heat. I have a ZL1 with OEM Aero running at 840 hp. My engine oil gets kinda hot by that power. When I track on hockenheimring my max. trans temp is max. 95°C. (maybe because of less shifts or staying in auto). Do you know what temps for oil and trans you have on track? Chevy also recommends using 15W-50 engine oil on the zl1 and on the 1LE its even required by the G-Forces you have with its aero and tires.

[@DanteGonxhja]

@@GenkiEliteit was worth it 100% thank you 😁

[@DanteGonxhja]

@@cw_zl1I used to do 95 max 105 degress but now it goes from 95 immediately to max then cools down within the minute. Im taking the car to a shop in Austria or Geiger cars in Munich for a check up whoever is available first.

[@drogenfeld]

I'd presume that because giving the shift command manually is unexpected for the car it has to deal with a harsher shift than when it decides on it's own when to shift. Just a guess though.

[@v.rocky111]

They didn't ban the SVJ but banned a ZL1😂

[@VAZSFV4]

Was just thinking about that

[@zorrokitty5666]

I think they were lucky and passed the sound devices at low speed

[@digitaljigga]

Smh….America!

[@PbpLOL25]

It had a capristo exhaust, stock svj is surprisingly quiet and most aftermarket ones aren’t super loud. The crazy loud videos you see and shooting huge flames are with the gintani exhaust with cat delete.

[@S8ER]

@@PbpLOL25 and even those aren't insanely loud until they are high RPM. Such an amazing sound even if it does hurt the ears a bit. 😂

[@justomov]

The owner was really enjoying it

[@fknbastages]

He's living my dream.

[@a.m.4049]

I thought about it. How often does one get to experince riding in their car as a passenger on the track vs being the driver? A totally different experience.

[@fknbastages]

@@a.m.4049, make sure they are a pro and all of the equipment is as good as you can get it. lol

[@diaman_d]

especially with every compression. 😆

[@Iam_Yu627]

Dude had a smile the entire time Def a car guy. My man!

[@mike-2342]

"Want it back in auto?" "No, I will toast this damn thing!"

[@johnostrum6953]

My exact thought 🤣

[@sataneatcheese6243]

I was starting to think the same thing.

[@camarodreams7689]

So this is not a 1LE..... its a ZL1 with 1LE aero. Its missing some stuff as in solid bushings, DSSV dampers, 19x11/19x12 rims. The 1LE also comes with larger brake rotors and pads. Title should be adjusted.

[@UrbanAggression]

I noticed as well. Fake 1LE

[@danieldickerson4838]

Yeah, I could tell immediately. The key way to spot a true ZL1 1LE is by looking at the strut towers underneath the hood, and the shocks. If both are blue, you’ve got a genuine ZLE. Don’t get it twisted, the ZL1 is still a beast on the track, and is much more friendly on the road as well. However, the ZL1 1LE may as well be a different car in the way it goes about road course duty. The latter was built for the *sole* purpose of track work, hence the DSSV dampers, the solid bushings, the lightweight wheels, thinner rear glass, Pratt n Miller designed aero, easily adjustable suspension/camber, and pizza-sized rotors.

[@bossblastsbosse3399]

You guys are correct, the 2018 ZL1 1LE wasn't available in automatic (rear light prior to 2018)

[@davidl6264]

So it's basically the same car

[@DanteGonxhja]

@@danieldickerson4838 I mean first thing I said in the video was that it's just 1LE aero. 1LE has same brakes though just different color caliper.

[@joebriggs8422]

'Transmission Hot, Idle Engine' Misha: OK, I'll just rev it until the transmission slips 😉

[@ITRIEDEL]

I bet secretly he was crying inside lol

[@Ruudiii]

10:05 you can se a huge pile of smoke spitting out of the car, god damn

[@CPAJayhawk]

honestly he needs to chill on destroying people's cars...this isn't a time attack event.

[@jamesclark4]

Typical chevy

[@hwinterr]

@@jamesclark4My Ford 6R80 is way worse than my GM 10 Speed Allison, the 6060 Manual in my Camaro is amazing not sure why anyone would buy an automatic muscle car lol

[@ragtop63]

It's nice to see track officials that seem to truly enjoy the spirit of motorsports. No ego.

[@Axyzed]

I was riding passenger in the red miata you passed at the start, it doesn't suprise me that you got banned haha, damn that thing was loud 😂😂

[@plektosgaming]

The best cars are always the big American V8s. :) But, yes, the Mustang also was too loud when he last drove one - lol.

[@Vqfool]

😂

[@insomniacbritgaming1632]

@@plektosgaming the worst cars are US V8's...

[@fabr5747]

@@plektosgaming American cars mostly are not that great...

[@Chrisvetty]

​@@fabr5747whys that?

[@raehanson4857]

Have a 2022 ZL1 1LE , have tracked it several times with the Goodyear SC3R. Car has never overheated, even on 90 degree track days. 1LE package comes with DSSV shocks and 10 speed auto. Brakes are good but need to change brake fluid at end or start of track season. Went with Hawk DTC 70 pads this year. Braking is amazing.

[@Slurpee_12]

The 1LE package does not include an auto. That is an option that you specify.

[@Clutch_Kick187]

@@Slurpee_12 Any 1LE either SS or ZL1 was available in auto starting in 2019 or 2020.. from 2016-2018 was only manual.. Which is the only way a 1LE should be ordered..

[@Slurpee_12]

@@Clutch_Kick187 I'm not sure about the SS 1LE, but an automatic ZL1 has been available since it debuted, in 2017. The ZL1 1LE debuted in 2018, and was only available in a manual. The automatic for the ZL1 1LE has been available since 2019.

[@stevenreddy6842]

@@Clutch_Kick187​​⁠ ​​⁠The SS 1LE did not get an automatic transmission option until the 2021 model year, the ZL1 1LE got the automatic option for the 2019 model year and beyond. Also the guy you’re replying to wasn’t saying you couldn’t get a 1LE with an automatic they were saying the automatic transmission does not come with the 1LE package, which is correct. The original commenter said the 1LE package “comes with the DSSV shocks and 10-speed auto” which is false, the automatic is an extra cost option unrelated to the 1LE package.

[@danieldickerson4838]

@@Slurpee_12 False. The 2018 ZL1 1LEs only came in manuals. 2019-2024 1LEs had the option of getting the 10 speed autos.

[@UweCaspart]

Simple solution for the noise limit and LT4: Don´t rev it, torque it. My delta says it´s not much difference between shifting at 5.000 or 6.000 (131db). And it saves a lot uf fuel 😉

[@volvo09]

Yeah it clearly had pleeeeenty of torque. Holding it near redline makes for a great video, but if all you want to do is go out on the track and have fun you can minimize shifting to keep heat out of the trans and just enjoy that torque...

[@BitcoinTo150K]

Factory exhaust has multiple exhaust settings. I start up mine in quietest sounds like any other car at 5am

[@casemodder89]

not much difference in torque or in power ?

[@DanteGonxhja]

Its what I did the next two days and I didnt get banned you are right. Also no overheat in performance shift auto mode.

[@notlohhcaz]

@@volvo09that’s what he said

[@FIREBIRD_2024]

That Camaros colour looks so good. Also sounds like a beast. Nicely done as always Misha

[@jeremymckinney2269]

The 1LE version of the Camaro was deemed illegal in Germany because of the carbon fiber canards on the sides of the bumper....while the normal ZL1 is just fine. Even the C7 ZR1 was banned from sale in Germany because the hood cowl was 1/8th of an inch too high for the pedestrian safety guidelines....LOL

[@pg1171]

That is laughable. In the U.S., we can see just fine. Nothing against your drivers, the politicos are the problem. Have a great day/night!

[@thecavewarrior1715]

@jeremy It was. It isnt anymore. Since 2018 they are legal. You can check it up

[@Racingwespe]

that compass would drive me nuts

[@volvo09]

Yeah, silly gauge to have active.

[@jensonhartmann3630]

@@volvo09 yeah, has zero relevance to a racetrack

[@Slurpee_12]

You can change the cluster. Not sure why this is used. I cycle between tire PSI and oil temps.

[@that44rdv4rk]

if it moved smoothly it might be okay. an old school stick-on floating sphere compass would be less distracting than this 8 position halfassery.

[@salat]

Was and still is quite a normal accessory for US cars - in the US you often got instructions like "drive route 66 westbound" - while here in Germany you just get a city name to get in the right direction (like "A1 Richtung Köln").

[@redsnow29]

9:50 That's a lot of smoke 🫢

[@stoerenungeheuer543]

yup Doesn't look healthy.

[@NoDoSwLa]

10:17 what the..

[@zf8496]

it's like burnt oil smoke! that's not good!

[@that44rdv4rk]

yeah, big oof. edit: ah, transmission, so medium oof.

[@J3n555]

Maybe trans was overfilled when serviced? + Overheating doesnt help

[@DivadNoodeldehm-lz2gm]

I have this model without a back seat, the 7 speed manual, and a Corvette body kit. No tranny overheating problems.

[@barrydraper]

You know it's bad-ass when you're doing all the passing and nobody passes you... #BEAST

[@TWOSU_NEWS]

So I got out of a REF charge a month ago in California….cops said my exhaust was above the db limit at rpm and I counter by saying the car was above the db level while traveling at rpm and speed regardless of the exhaust…judge gave me 7 days to prove it and I did the following day…the sound of the car was higher than the db of the exhaust while traveling 45mph ( after it was fixed ) and the judge through out the ticket…and no I wasn’t going to replace my exhaust I just closed my sylinoids

[@QBDLettuce]

6,500 RPM -> 5,500 RPM , only drops 1000 RPM after an upshift and it has to keep doing those shifts pretty much all the time at high RPM. It held up pretty well regardless. Including the engine which is a more traditional V8 that doesn't like (or need) high RPM, constantly near redline because of short gearing. And owner commented it was due to poor transmission maintenance/service from a shop, so considering that, held up quite well.

[@MikesLARE]

You need a 1LE ZL1 with a proper manual, spool valve dampers and all.

[@justintort]

100%. Manual and the proper 1LE Suspension makes a big difference.

[@ezpz4659]

@@justintort bro im so happy I got the regular ZL1. The Magneride suspension is so damn good. (i don't track the car ever, maybe once a year)

[@N4CR]

@@ezpz4659 Keep the chrome sliders clean, look after them. Keep the seals lubed. I have a few of the original MRC shocks used on the HSVs in Aussie as early tests for that tech (they are basically the same platform as the camaro). They will pop and when they pop you are spending a decent coilover set per corner...

[@tirdkat6104]

The Tremec dual clutch from the Corvette would have been better.

[@georgegiannopouloscamarozl1028]

ZL11LE 10 Speed it's very fast car I have both manual ZL11LE and ZL11LE 10 Speed. ZL11LE 10 Speed it's very fast car.

[@danieldickerson4838]

Not a 1LE, Misha, but the “standard” ZL1 is still very much a BEAST on the track! The *proper* ZL1 1LE is the undisputed track weapon for Camaros. Lookout for the blue strut towers, DSSV dampers, 19 inch lightweight wheels, and R comps to more easily spot a genuine 1LE👍🏽👍🏽.

[@rasheedingram5793]

I was literally going to comment this. Also the 18 ZLE only came in Manuel.

[@galazoulay8498]

Yeah as soon as he said just aero package not suspension it just sounded weird knowing 1LEs They should only come manual as well.

[@dariodeagostini]

to be honest I'd love to see misha try a 2015 Z/28 on the ring... naturally aspirated 7l is probably more fun (and balanced) than the supercharged beast.

[@mitchellsteindler]

​@@dariodeagostini z28 is the coolest camaro, but the supercharged engine is not too much for this chassis.

[@Cardiakk]

​@@dariodeagostiniDefinitely not more balanced than a 6th gen, period. The LS7 was designed around the C6 chassis.

[@joelg4849]

The Marshall greeting you in her sing song voice was nice and pretty funny 😄

[@erik9108]

Coolest track marshal, ever! She sees it's you and is like... you know what I'm going tell you, right?

[@stephenallen9786]

Ford mustang boss has a metal air scoop that sits just below its transmission to help keep it from overheating. I don't really care for any Ford of any kind but I did make my own air scoop out of eighth inch aluminum and mounted it on a cross member so it sits in between the exhaust and transmission and I gotta say it works perfectly. I have a 2018 Silverado that has a trannie that gets way too hot but not any more. Check into it my guy, you won't be disappointed with the results.

[@stevewix]

Those LT4s don't like RPM. Try targeting 3500-4000 at the bottom end and 5800 at the shift. It serves well to keep the heat out of the engine oil, intercooler and trans. The supercharger makes crazy low end torque.

[@jamesclark4]

😂 chevy problems

[@maciejswiercz9737]

Just let the transmission do its thing … don’t paddle shift .. and yes , they do like to rev to the top .

[@Frank-McN]

The fuel signal 😂😂🤦🏽 whaching it going down was an experience

[@kevins.3573]

ZL's with A10 get hot at the track. Forum's say that the biggest culprit is actual the engine oil getting to 300F. The engine, trans, differential share the engine coolant, so, if the engine gets super hot, it's heating your coolant, which is reducing its capacity to chill the ATF, in turn. Add an auxiliary engine oil cooler. Similarly, don't turn on the heat in the cabin, because, you'll just be adding more heat to the coolant thru the heater core, instead turn on the A/C to try to chill the coolant passing thru the cabin. GM says to change the ATF every 15 track hours, and changed the check requirements, for the 2020+ models, check the ATF at 172 F instead of previously 212 F. Some argue that over fill ATF is causing issues, however, don't bleed the ATF when it's hot or it'll risk being too low on ATF.

[@wthisdaftpunk6847]

Thanks for sharing, love reading random small things about track cars like this

[@casemodder89]

just don't get a fckin automatic tranny if you want fun anyway. problem solved.

[@Slurpee_12]

The AC will shut off on WOT and track driving. I just leave everything off.

[@MozzarellaBasket]

Why would you not turn on the heat in the cabin? It's like having another radiator, the desert treatment works quite well in other cars.

[@Tribbatrot]

Can you please explain how turning on the heat inside the cabin makes the coolant hotter?

[@RedNewQualityStandardscode]

I daily an SS 1LE 22 and I know exactly how great this car handles and eats corners, If gas was cheaper where I live id def have went for the ZL1. Wont sell it for anything.

[@T1M3ATK]

Trans fluid is overfilled/underfilled most likely. IT NEEDS TO BE PERFECTLY FILLED! Level service and exact amount refilled. The trans is shifting like crap!

[@michaeldecker2725]

Just like German car!

[@young_sachii]

@@michaeldecker2725what the heck no 😂

[@77cats-2]

128dB limit. That's quite lucky. The noise restriction is around 102-105 on UK circuits.

[@The_Drive_Inside]

EVERY SINGLE TIME…first the corvette Z06 and now this lol! So weird! I have never ever seen the 10 speed overheat 🤔…the 17-18 had a downshift algorithm issue they fixed in the later models…I would LOVE to see what you could do with my 22 M6 ZL1…you’ve had the most problems with them…I swear these cars are amazing 😅…. Might need to get that trans fluid level checked 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@CPAJayhawk]

he was just abusing it, too much near redline downshifting.,

[@jamesclark4]

​@CPAJayhawk 😂 so you cant use the car with out it craping the bed 😂 thats chevy for ya

[@danieldickerson4838]

@@jamesclark4 You can’t continuously downshift it at redline on a 12 mile long track, no.

[@jamesclark4]

@danieldickerson4838 with a chevy no you can't

[@jamesclark4]

@danieldickerson4838 cars do that all day long with out issue just not chevy cars

[@Lofi.z34]

From watching Misha's videos, I have learned cooling is # 1 importance. What a cool car

[@Brothergimbo]

Camazo are so much faster then a Camaro 😎

[@gk7979]

KAMAZo

[@mgcharoudin]

@@gk7979 Sounds like a boosted KAMAZ for sure!

[@salamov963]

​@@mgcharoudinboosted boris what up

[@JonOlaivar]

Im surprised the PCM let it keep going well past the point of flaring on shifts. It should go into limp mode wayyy before it gets that hot. Those clutches probably lost at least half their normal lifespan (if not all of it) in just a lap. Definitely a failure of the cars powertrain protections.

[@N4CR]

Good catch. At the start it shifts 6500, typical, LT/LS shift point for the 6.2s. Later around 9 mins it starts flashing to 7k+ until the shift denied issues.

[@gittyupalice96]

On the high speed shifts you can really see that thing slipping trying to engage the next gear. Glad I have a manual transmission. (:

The only way to fly.

[@tibi1441]

I watch this channel every day and love it. But no need to destroy the dudes car Misha, clearly its hurt don't be arrogant.

[@VAZSFV4]

Also that converter sounded very hot by the end of that, slipping a bit it sounded like

[@lukebable]

The biggest problem with the gearbox is that it is not a manual !

[@krisl2838]

The 10 speed is incredible though!

[@marknova420]

As a 1LE owner i have been waiting for this! Kinda disappointed its not a real 1LE but I get how these cars are hard to come by in germany lol

[@sum1quiet]

The smoke out of the back at 10:03 :O

[@purotricio]

Yo te digo, mala pinta en verdad esa bocanada de humo...

[@mrburgermaster]

That transmission will need a rebuild after that amount of torture at high temperatures.

[@The_Drive_Inside]

Good catch!

[@SHIZURAKU]

Lol and the owner was like "that's fine" while there's a james bond level smoke behind them 😆

[@jamesclark4]

Chevy for ya

[@chockeypucks24]

It’s amazing how this guy just gets in cars he’s never driven before and can drive them like he’s been testing it all week to find the limits and understand how it reacts. It takes 1 lap but even the first lap he does a great job warming up the tires and stuff without driving too carefully.

[@stevestumbaugh]

They tell people hear in a America that peoples race cars are to loud for the race track. It's a race car and yes it is going to be loud without street exhaust and mufflers. It is usually because people buy houses next to a race track and get mad when they hear race cars. Well you moved next to a race track what did you think was going to happen?

[@Rikverse24]

install transmission cooling system with external oil cooler and pump plus some vents at underbody cooling the transmission case. This car is a absolute beast and micha pushed it. really love it. My Next car for sure!

[@Arturro671]

That girl was cool as heck though xD

[@marcom2248]

Of course she knows him very well and she knows that there is always a camera with him... 😁

[@bigbaza30]

14:09 till 14:16, there's your answer, When a car produces 900NM you don't need to wrap it around the red line in every gear constantly, you could have kept the Engine between 3000 and 5500-6000rpm and it would have been just as quick, and kept the noise down to a reasonable level not to get banned. After all Misha, you know where all the noise pick-up points are around the Ring. you naughty boy, behave yourself. LOL Awesome content. Enjoyed watching as always

[@jamesclark4]

Wrong😂

[@bigbaza30]

@@jamesclark4 Really🤪

[@situationunchanged9733]

128db limit!? That's quite loud. Too put that into perspective, a 747 taking off is 127db and Brian Blessed is 130db....😅😅😅

[@totalsuper4169]

Girlfriend 105db😜

[@markmcgrath9098]

That’s only when Brian is saying ‘F^ck!’ isn’t it?!😂

[@situationunchanged9733]

@@markmcgrath9098 His Tarzan is pretty loud too 😂 😂

[@casemodder89]

@@situationunchanged9733 try alexandra ftom the botez sisters screaming ANDRRREEEEAAAAAAA !!! thats about 165db. you'd need a 25KW car sound system to reach that 🤣

[@clifbradley]

If you are getting a shift denied warning, that's usually from the transmission getting too hot. These don't do good at excessive prolonged speed. The transmission is the wekness for this car. The trans cooler is too small. You shoukd reqch out to Ben Hardy who had one of these and experienced this issue with it. Same thing for the Mustang GT500, except not as bad.

[@DanteGonxhja]

Is he based in Germany?

[@1CLOOOUD]

Really??.. The ZL1 is more Loud than the AMG GT R from yestarday's video?? ..😱 very Great V8 muscle car👍🔥

[@chargeduphellcat4937]

omg this car is awesome around the track and even sounds soo good !!

[@doctorpatient519]

** what was that dash display at 8:01 saying "Information -- Shift Denied"?? there's a "Dismiss" button under it, but there must've been a hidden "IGNORE" button under Misha's foot

[@michaelnastaszczuk7029]

Overheating Trans, it happens with intense track driving, solution is to add a additional external coolerwith fan after the primary, only draw back it will take a bit longer to warm the trans to driving temp on cold days

[@KartiacKID]

Next upgrade, a bigger trans cooler

[@einautofan6685]

Ultimate modern Muscle Track Day Car! I ❤️ this Camaro Generation!!!😍😎👍

[@alexamg6675]

The ZL1 is the fastest car I’ve ever driven

[@19ZORES72]

I like the clouded sky. You can almost feel the ups and downs of the track even it's just a Video. Great.

[@xaviercoupal682]

Everytime you drive cars with high torque you keep downshifting in 2nd gear and I can't understand why. Im pretty sure you loose couple seconds everytime and work the transmission more then it should just to rev 6k to 7k

[@kyleeverett3692]

The transmission is overheating... Do you want me to change it so it will stop.... "no....leave it😂😂😂 Continues to melt it down😂😂😂

[@stephbarbershop2518]

We're going to need a follow up on the repairs required.

[@DanteGonxhja]

I did two laps the day after this video was filmed and the car was fine in automatic mode, transmission temp never went beyond 100 degress celsius. It just needs a new oil change to fix the overfill issue.

[@MrBrander]

Oh man. That car behaves just so well. Very smooth experience and it just bends to corners like nothing. It's like liquid around those corners. I think this is the best car around the track. Just so effortless, smooth and easy to bend to corners.

[@drqusk]

Shift denied... LOL

[@UnrelatedNonsense]

Punishment for not getting the manual lol

[@MoaningGit]

​@@UnrelatedNonsense 😂😂

[@jinxblack7597]

I think we’re done here now. Na I am going to pass these last three cars.

[@cbotten106]

Just looking for a little overtime.

[@KRSRK]

"I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" 🔴

[@muzammil5240]

on which days can you drive on the gp track? I am looking forward to come to nurburgring and I wanna know some good info's before i actually come there

[@MrCathal09]

Afaik there's only a few days per year. Look up the calendar, it's available online

[@muzammil5240]

@@MrCathal09 oh thank you!

[@historyisaguide]

As an owner of a ZL1-1LE, This is a regular ZL1 with some 1LE parts, the dive planes are at the wrong angle, and the multimatic spool valve dampers are a huge difference, much stiffer for track use, and adjustable, not to mention the wheel and tire sizes are very different, the 1LE has 305's and 325's × 19's there are more differences but there is a reason that the track times are significantly different between the two models, I'd love to see what Misha could do with a proper ZL1-1LE

[@DanteGonxhja]

The dive planes being the wrong angle is a new one, let's add it to the list of wrong info like the 1LE having bigger brakes and more cooling compared to the normal ZL1. That is literally a 1LE bumper that I got with the original canards mounted as I didn't wanna cut holes in my other bumper. I then replaced the plastic canards, grille and front lip with carbon to go along with my carbon side skirts, diffuser, mirrors and spoiler.

[@historyisaguide]

I'm sure u r getting a ton of hate, that wasnt my intention, and I could be wrong on the front dive planes, but on the video the angle looks very different from mine, they look much steeper, u can look at my profile picture for comparison, also I never said anything about the brakes or anything else that u said, but I stand by the other things, I also never said that I disliked the regular (for lack of a better way of saying it) ZL1, as a daily driver it's a better option, but this is a track video and the times that the 2 variants of the ZL1 posted at the ring are substantial. 13.6 seconds! it also has a different rear suspension, solid aluminum bushings, The suspension is also track adjustable, you can gain neg. camber 3 deg I think, the glass is actually thinner as well, and it actually does cool better (Chevrolet's info, not mine) if u changed to the 1LE front facia u know the differences, the rear seat is fixed, 19" forged aluminum wheels which are lighter, all of the extra effort translated to it being 60 lbs lighter. again I don't dislike your car at all, I think it looks fantastic and I'm thrilled to finally see one on the ring, I'd love to be able to drive mine there, thats a dream, but me pointing out those differences are not me taking a shot at your car, not at all.

[@DanteGonxhja]

@@historyisaguide brother I know what the 1LE is and how different it is to a normal ZL1, I’m not arguing anything here. I even plan on buying one and turn it into a hardcore track vehicle. Im just correcting people linking my trans issues to the fact that this is not a 1LE. The ZL1 ring record was done in an automatic. Ive tracked my car for the past 4 years and never had my trans overheat until I changed the oil last month. I dont agree with the video title calling it a 1LE but that wasnt my call. And you’re still wrong about the dive planes angle unless Chevy has changed the angle based on model year which I’m not aware of. If I had a 1LE the trans would still overheated if you fuck up and overfill the trans. My carbon parts are from Anderson Composites and you can check yourself that theyre a direct replacement for the plastic oem parts, they cant be a different angle or they would just not fit. Maybe because I deleted the side reflectors it seems different to you.

[@historyisaguide]

Ok, I agree with u about the dive planes, as I said in my last comment. Anderson composites makes some outstanding stuff, way better than the factory stuff. I also have the 10 speed auto 10L90 I preferred it to the manual. there is a great video where a couple of guys go thru the service procedure, well worth the watch, I was really surprised with how specific and honestly ridiculous it is, there is a very specific temperature range that u have to do it at, and with special equipment, there isn't even a dipstick that I know of. I'm sure u r fully aware of this by now, but just in case I thought I'd mention it. again I meant no disrespect, you can't convey tone in text, I was thrilled to see a ZL1 on his channel, it feels like the ZL1 is a forgotten car at times, but great video.

[@DanteGonxhja]

@@historyisaguide do you have a link to that service procedure video? Would really help me out as there are no certified mechanics in Albania unfortunately.

[@kelvinanjos]

10:04 casually turning the james bond mode on

[@johnlangley7521]

Love my LT1 Camaro !! :) not a fancy ZL1, runs a 1/4 in 11.9 @ 118 on all season run flats (245's at that)

[@ayushmalpeddi2793]

You're one of the few the break into 11s lol. Which dragstrip did you run it at?

[@thomasbambrick1162]

Having a sound decibel limit at a race track is the equivalent to wiping before you poop! That's just stupid, it's a race track, there's nothing quiet about auto racing!

[@toddhumphries1371]

Exactly! Guess they're preparing for EV racing!

[@gordmalby2804]

They were out on the track during a tourist session, it becomes a public toll road with no speed restrictions, but vehicles must fall under public road rules for exhaust dbl's. The ban was for the rest of the day and they could return the next day and do it all over again.

[@Zan0_oX]

My SS auto will deny shift if I wait to long to shift it in manual this guys car is fine.. you guys with these insinuations are wild!

[@kris8448]

smoke coming out of the back of the car, the car is NOT fine.

[@rulingdark704]

Awesome video

[@green95gt]

Use a heat wrap on the exhaust as it passes near the transmission and differential. Any sort of heat wrap you can use really, and the entire length of the exhaust if you can. Also, perhaps fit a heat shield between the exhaust and transmission. Ditto for the exhaust and differential.

[@N4CR]

wraps are dumb as they can cause condensation, rusting etc. heat shields are used by OEMs for this reason. You never see OEM wraps. Ceramic coating also helps inside.

[@green95gt]

@@N4CR Well I don't necessarily disagree with you on the tape wraps, but if it was my only option towards saving a 10-speed automatic transmission worth thousands of dollars I would take it. There are other style wraps that are metal based and adhere to the exhaust. Not sure where they placed the heat shields from the factory on this car but I'll bet there is none shielding the transmission from the exhaust. The definition of ceramic coating on exhausts has broadened over the years. To me, only the very thick ones are worth it. Those are not painted on but deposited on via a different process and is expensive. But at that point, road debris, rock, pebbles, etc could damage it.

[@ericship8383]

Cannot wait until you drive the new zr1! That thing is going to be a hypercar killer

[@БенджаминФранклин-я2ь]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@captain_context9991]

I think people are wildly overestimating that one... Just like people wildly overstate the performance of every new Corvette model for my entire life.

[@KartiacKID]

I don’t think it will beat hypercars but supers, it’s definitely going to be a tough fighter against and contender against a la Ferrari once the zera comes out

[@rojiii69420]

@@captain_context9991 Misha like the Z06...

[@whiskeyactual.]

@@captain_context9991 Sport Auto damn near ran the same Ring lap time as the 918 Spyder, with a C7 Z06 (7.13). I wouldn't say anything is "wild" or being "overestimating". I've mainly seen people underestimate the Vette platform my entire life.

[@mfjones2217]

All 10r80 10spd transmission overheat in every sport car, burns up clutches, they come either over filled or under filled, they have to be perfect on fluid

[@cw_zl1]

Its the 10R90 in the ZL1 which has a 14 row oil cooler. 10R80 has 10 row cooler with even smaller tubes.

[@mfjones2217]

@@cw_zl1 was just a general comment about fluid level, to low is not as bad as to full, , but either way ur gonna burn out 9-10 clutches, fluid turns black and never shifts right again, I went back to a 6spd way better trans, as far as autos go

[@cw_zl1]

@@mfjones2217 Yea, fluid level must be correct. Although I am pretty sure that was not the main cause of overheating. Properly filling the trans is not hard, I did it myself. You just need a car lift, or maybe rent one. Idling 60+ min. to get the target trans temp is the most annoying part... Pre-facelift models need like 90-95°C, so the thermostat opens up. The facelift models have a 75-80°C thermostat I believe.

[@DanteGonxhja]

@@cw_zl1 fluid level was the culprit, changed it and its fine now shifts even better and doesn't overheat. Will take it back to the Ring next year as I'm doing some other upgrades as well.

[@willdobbins3045]

Large amount of smoke off the ZL1 at 10:05

[@djporsche3922]

Holy shit yea maybe that was the clutches in the transmission burning

[@kirks22m]

@misha was really hoping to see you drive a real zl1 1le. Cause the 1le suspension for the track is what really makes the car.

[@kleoncars]

I’m from albania and I never thought I’d see an albanian plate on your video lol. That’s a nice surprise

[@kidnapthemoneyy01]

Hahahahah mrsh u cudita kur e pash

[@meanman6992]

Just put quieter mufflers on, with an electronic exhaust cut out in front of them.. when they go to check the db, keep the cut it closed. Once on the track, open it up if you think it’s hurting your power output.

[@PropDeskJunkie]

You kids crack me up. ECU is SCREAMING I’m TOO HOT… yet you keep trying to cancel the message. Beyond.

[@TomOostink]

Vaak bu'j te bange

[@Whatintarnationisthat]

@@TomOostinkoften you are too dumb

[@ArthaxtaDaVince777]

You should change the title, owner said this zl1 isn't 1le suspension, l1e with the maganride is a whole other monster.

[@deew6625]

Twin oil coolers on gearbox needed

[@jamesleicher]

was thinking that ,good aftermarket coolers might do the job

[@Clutch_Kick187]

Its a regular zl1, its not a real 1LE, just has a fake 1LE wing.. yes the 1LE's have extra coolers for engine, trans, & diff..

[@MrSuzbndt]

If you're manual shifting it drags clutches to speed up shift times that creates heat. Leave it in auto and track.

[@MrSuzbndt]

Manual mode on dyno with my a10 1le was 30hp less that's a bunch of drag, performance shift mode for 1hr+ on track it didn't miss a beat. But 1le a10 have a deep sump pan. Brakes on regular zl1 have backing plate that need to be removed for track prep, and in heavy braking tracks addition of ct5bw brake cooling scoops and a fluid swap cures the brakes.

[@lezioul]

10:17 dat smoke 😲

[@Reparo96]

Part of the reason these transmissions get too hot is because of the constant shifting. When you go around a corner, downshifting to whatever gear puts you near redline is not how this car should be driven. This car has more than enough torque to throttle out of a corner around 4000 RPM and be just as fast without destroying the transmission. These GM torque converter automatics turn into slushboxes when you shift them too frequently. These cars like being in one gear for a few more seconds in order to lock up the torque converter. That helps keep temperatures from rising way too quickly. Source: I own a 2018 Camaro SS with the 8 speed auto and I can run into the same issue if I push it too hard on track and constantly downshift to redline. These transmissions like to stay in a gear and ride it from moderate RPMs to redline. Part of the reason the 8 speed doesn’t overheat so often is because the gears are longer so the transmission isn’t shifting as much as the 10 speed will.

[@guypascua8848]

Close the exhaust valve before passing the DB zones and add racing transmission cooler

[@OneLifeDriva]

Great run! Still waiting for an actual 1LE on this channel. For the trans oil def need to prep the car for track day make sure it’s in tip top shape with good oil and right levels. For engine def 15W-50 or the new mobil 1 supercar dexos R 5W-50.

[@Clutch_Kick187]

The SS 1LE & ZL1 1LE both take 0w40 Dexos R..

[@OneLifeDriva]

@@Clutch_Kick187 That is correct, for daily driving and track that is the standard all season oil as the 0W provides good winter viscosity and 40 weight for track. However, page 15 of Chevrolets high performance owners manual supplement, it also mentions SS 1LE, ZL1 5W-40 and 0W-40 or 15W-50 for track use and 15W-50 to be changed back to owner manual specified oil 0W-40 after track use. ZL1 1LE only: 15W-50 on track and change after 4hours of accumulated track time. Regarding the 5W-50 oil i mentioned, that is a new oil which was dexos r certified for the new C8 Z06 LT6 after the development of the Camaro and is overall a great oil for track use I would consider over 15W-50.

[@Verybadbiker]

lmao a trail of smoke behind you, "transmission hot" warning - let's put it auto maybe it will fix itself :D

[@chickenfishhybrid44]

Smoke is supposedly from the trans fluid being overfilled at the last service

[@TESTA-CC]

Ultra Smooth in the Corners Misch, Made The Driving Look Effortless 👌👌

[@xiaoyu88]

transmission is heating up and none of them thought to like, chill and let it cool? irresponsible.

[@iamhozor]

as the old saying goes: "drive it like you stole it"

[@Whatintarnationisthat]

@@iamhozordumb saying but sure🤦🏽‍♂️

[@markdrewett149]

I have never seen an owner more happy than the big guy. He loved it.

[@Darkside42340]

Banned but with smile😊

[@omegatotal]

@MishaCharoudin use the tq of the motor and lower the RPM's when not hard accelerating to keep the trans temp down. The car owner also might want to wrap the exhaust in header wrap near the trans and trans cooler lines to keep the heat in the exhaust as well as an extra trans cooler.

[@Ruudiii]

10:05 you can se a huge pile of smoke spitting out of the car, god damn

[@jamesclark4]

Chevy for ya

[@erik9108]

Clutches have left the building. Just completely gave up trying to grab the flywheel.

[@plektosgaming]

@@erik9108 Nope. That's (boiling) transmission oil overflowing out the relief valve and instantly vaporizing. Yummy!

[@untended009case6]

If it has a automatic transmission than its not a 1le, the 1le package comes with exclusively manual trans.

[@DanteGonxhja]

Wrong 2019 and above come in auto as well

[@untended009case6]

@@DanteGonxhja Oh really? I didn't know this. Manual will always be on top to automatic though. That could also be the reason the trans overheated was because of the automatic transmission.

[@jaedonlong4084]

i own a 1le with an auto so i dont mean to be that guy but..

[@stefan514]

Is the car blowing out smoke around 9:50? Looks weird in the backwards camera

[@origaminefretami3480]

Even worse at 10:06

[@chickenfishhybrid44]

The owner said that they overfilled the trans fluid as the last service, so it was coming out of the breather and burning on exhaust

[@Battle_Garage]

I have a manual camaro from this generation with a built engine and the manual does not over heat in long track sessions ( i know that does not help your question for the autos) haha. The brakes forever leave something to be desired, i have not found a pad combo that is comfortable yet

[@Clutch_Kick187]

I use Hawk DTC 70 on front and DTC 60 on rear.. I also run a titanium shim to help keep heat transfer to the caliper, and last year I added Cadillac CT5 Blackwing brake cooling ducts to the car and it has helped immensely.. I have also ran EBC blue stuff and they weren't as aggressive as the Hawk, but lasted longer..

[@DanteGonxhja]

Goodridge stainless steel brake lines and Motul RBF660 brake fluid is all I did

[@richardpatton2502]

Zi Americans went from not enough gears to too many gears awfully quick 😂 All the best to everyone

[@ralphsmallblock4367]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@narciso19G]

Gonna need to put an aftermarket trans cooler on it. The stock one is just for cruising and highway, can’t keep up with track condition.

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

@DanteGonxhja 3 months ago (edited) What a wonderful experience thank you Misha! Just to clarify the transmission issue is entirely my fault. I've done countless laps in other racetracks without stopping and overheating but this time I sent the car to a mechanic I shouldn't have and they did an awful job replacing my transmission oil, didn't drain the old oil properly and overfilled with new oil. Weirdly the transmission never did overheat in automatic performance shift mode. I will fix this issue and do some more upgrades to the car and hopefully I'll take it to the ring again with Misha.

[@narciso19G]

@ that makes sense, I’d still put a bigger trans cooler in it. The OEM ones are so small that it hardly does anything anyways.

[@AutoPaparazziEU]

when you are banned on track take it to the street pefect logic

[@bobsmoot8454]

RealLE1s only come with a manual box and the trick Multimatic spool shocks, bushings and other suspension parts differ too

[@VoitureAllemandeRegionCentre]

1LE = 7'16''04 😘😘😍😍

[@whatdoyouthinktodd]

I'm looking at the speedometer he's moving right along. And then I realized it's kilometers. One of my most memorable speeding ticket was for 142 mph. Many many years ago. A couple of months ago on my way to Oklahoma on an expressway that was 85 mph average speed in traffic 96 98 mph

[@xHeaveny]

"shift denied" never thought to see that from a car

[@Linknelson]

ZL1 1LE is one of my favorite cars, I have been waiting for you to drive one of these, such a sweet machine man.

[@stevenreddy6842]

Unfortunately you have to keep waiting, this wasn’t a real 1LE, it just had the aero from a 1LE.

[@danieldickerson4838]

@@stevenreddy6842 Correct!

[@Linknelson]

@@stevenreddy6842 Yeah I see that now, looks like a reg ZL1 with the added aero. Would like to see the 6 speed as well.

[@westj03]

the smoke coming out the rear :O