Conversation between JK Rowling and Steve Kloves (2011)

Harry Potter Wizard's Collection - Creating the World Part 7

[@Musickt196]

“We can’t make the movies scene by scene, they’d be twelve hour long films.” I mean I’m okay with that

[@MrParkerman6]

When she said that I was like: Your Point Being?

[@TheSupaman98]

@@MrParkerman6 It implies that it’s better off as a TV show. That way you would get the “12 hour movies” (seasons) that would adapt the books further.

[@DM-bb3wl]

Right?! That's called a Netflix series!!! 😏

[@TWHowl]

The main reasons it hasn’t happened yet is probably JK not feeling it, possible disrespect to the movie cast and crew, and no one feeling ready to take on such a massive production. It would be one of the biggest shows ever made even if it sucked.

[@z.a.y.n-5053]

@@TWHowl I swear Martin Scorsese wanted it to be an animated series at first, obviously Jk didn't want that and I don't blame her.

[@Lasciel0717]

I could watch Rowling talk about these books forever. The passion she has for her work is just incredible.

[@MrLidek]

I couldn't agree more. She has this gigantic backstage knowledge about every character in the story. She knows the wizarding world in every detail. And for that I admire her.

[@slaizen]

u gay right ?

[@mp-tl5tq]

@@slaizen yes

[@Ty-qv3ml]

Jk Rowling has fucked up the Harry Potter storyline.

[@lemonade_011]

Anonymous In what way ,, U clearly didn’t like Harry Potter franchise ,,, Whereas as it’ was Her amazing Storytelling in the books or the movies ,,so why u here ?

[@timrob12]

The only reason I would like to see a TV series of Harry Potter is because we would be able to see all the books in its complete form.

[@GP71_OO]

timrob12 I would love that there's so much in the books that we dont see on the films

[@timrob12]

Polar Express 7 Precisly.

[@LouiseAndersen1991]

I can definitely see HP as a TV series in like 10/15 years when the movies have been around for quite a while. Because there are scenes that the movies do not have, that I would like to see. Though, I cannot see anyone other than Alan Rickman as Snape

[@psteeg3551]

definitely. Would be even better if they'd add a bit of additional HP lore, like some more depth of character origins, or just additional stuff the Trio does during their magic years. There's hardly any wizard-school-stuff in the movies except for "its not leviosa is leviooooosa", whereas the books have plenty and it is so fun to read about both their daily school stuff as well as the main plot

[@Dank951]

A TV series would ruin the books. They would stretch the material and introduce unnecessary plot elements.

[@TiaMat99]

"Childhood is the opposite of warm and fuzzy. My childhood wasn't warm and fuzzy. Playgrounds are a brutal place." That just hit me really hard.

[@catguy4996]

I have to agree on that, though.

[@MrParkerman6]

Probably not as hard as your childhood bully.

[@P.Whitestrake]

Playgrounds were warzones in my childhood.

[@mariavalie8434]

In the beginning when Jo said that the books couldn't have been filmed scene by scene because they would have had 12 hour films, immediately I screamed "I would sit in a theater to watch all 8 films 12 hours long." I would be okay if the films were that long, because Harry Potter is amazing.

[@karthikravichandran4]

Precisely.....or a tv series with a season each for all the seven books might have been interesting too!

[@mariavalie8434]

+Karthik Ravichandran That would have been interesting. But i personally prefer films.

[@thegrayknight71]

One big problem with making the first 3-4 movies was that the actors were children. And some law in England said that children could only work as actors for a few hours each day. I've heard the number 4-4,5 hours each day. So they could not spent 12 hours every day making the film. The director was under a terrible time schedule.

[@mariavalie8434]

Kyrre Forland That's interesting. I didn't know that. Thanks for the information.

[@gregsimcock]

People have heard many lies about the Harry Potter stories origin. One lie being: Jo Rowling was on a delayed train after a day-out house hunting in 1990 when the story of Hary Potter popped into her head, fully formed. I know this because Jo Rowling did not create the stories in the first place. She claimed that, at the time of writing the story, she was suicidal. She has amazed everyone who has heard her lies about the story. That steered her prey into thinking how brilliant an author she is, writing one novel after another - until the series of Harry Potter stories was published. Not once has Jo Rowling told the true origins of Harry Potter. I know this because I am the original creator of the stories that inspired Jo Rowling to begin writing the long-winded novels of the Harry Potter series. I began a story that became the Harry Potter series in 1978 while I was a soldier in the Australian Army. After leaving the force on which I based my wizard boy series, I spent several years creating the artwork for the stories, which began as a series of storyboards. My wizard story was to become "The best story for children, for the film". The reason for that was I was a cinema projectionist when I began to create the story. Over the years in the Army, I drew the artwork for the scenes in my primary story. It became so long that to make it into a movie would have resulted in a production that would have been about 12 hours long. That caused me to divide my storyboard into five sets for which I created titles. A visiting friend, Alan Page, picked up my binder-ring file that contained the storyboard drafts. Alan opened the file and moved it over my lap. While I sat in my lounge chair, Alan began pointing at things and asking questions about my stories in that file. He got me to read aloud all five title names, then asked me if there were any more title names. I thought his question was rude and imposing into what was very private information, so I thought of two more title names and read them out to him - after having written them down beneath the other title names on my note work on the Harry Potter series. A picture can present a story in itself. I had many drawings in my drawing file. I had hundreds of stories set in the form of storyboards - all with written names of the main characters and creatures and features in them. The delayed-train Jo Rowling speaks of having been on, then thought up the story of Harry Potter was not real. Jo Rowling has cooked her golden goose. What I began to create as a story to inspire children grew to suit an older audience over the years I was in the Army. After my military service years, the story developed with drawings I drew and added to my stories. At some time, my design and story files got stolen from my home. Years afterwards, I was bewildered from not knowing what had happened to my work of about 30 years. I was without any project to further- develop, as my stories became novels, productions or products made that were once my inventions. Jo Rowling is nothing to me but a well-paid plagiarist who habitually lies to keep the unsuspecting readers and followers of her dastardly well-played-out plan she has been casting out over the world's people since day one when she first made an ugly-duckling appearance in front of news media. Quacking about how poor she was as her mother was dying, she kept her biggest secret to herself. The reader may find THE LIAR BIRD poem of interest. I wrote it in a depressed state of mind after many months of heartache and anguish. You can find it at jkrawling.tumblr.com. The stories I storyboarded grew long as I added drawings to them. They had to be segmented and transformed into a series of smaller stories. That meant that Jo Rowling had to write about each drawing's elements and the storylines presented within those drawings I had drawn. The video [Conversation between JK Rowling and Steve Kloves (2011) - Me3SbSWhICg] highlights why a story gets far too long that it must be divided into smaller segments and therefore requires more productions produced. I accept Jo Rowling has put a lot of effort and time into writing up my stories of the Harry Potter series - but I am the original creator of much of the stories content. Because of the theft of my work on those stories, followed by plagiarism, I am not known for my authorship of what took me about 17 years to create. That is an enormous loss to me personally and financially. I accept my loss, but Jo Rowling is simply a well-paid plagiarist, in my view.

[@cheechee6473]

12 HOUR LONG HARRY POTTER FILMS?!? LMAO YES PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!! I COULD WATCH ANYTHING TO DO WITH HARRY POTTER FOR YEARS NON-STOP.

[@Ryan_hey]

Well, at least there's already a 5 hour one; just watch Deathly Hallows Pt 1 & 2 back to back.

[@ashwiratnani4152]

Yesss.... Anything for Harry Potter

[@Strawberrieshortcakes]

I would sit and watch them all lol

[@groot8950]

Do you even realise how much that would cost to make?

[@cheechee6473]

@@groot8950 Yeah it’d cost A LOT, and it’d take so fucking long but then again...who cares :)

[@noratoufaili5869]

Why does J.K Rowling give me Princess Diana vibes? That class, elegance, eye contact, everything. I love her.

[@user-hk7hz9cn7v]

She’s a gorgeous genius

[@cearaosborne3571]

@ms honey fuck off

[@cearaosborne3571]

@ms honey and you’re a trend follower. Hop back on your hate wagon 🐑 moron.

[@AreMullets4AustraliansOnly]

@@cearaosborne3571 i mean when it’s true it’s true, and JK Rowling does lend genuine support to these movements that seek to demonise trans rights as a danger to womens rights. I was hoping it was just that she follows a few of those accounts but nope, she really does support this, which is the epitomy of transphobia, the selfish fear of trans people and rights without any evidence to back up their opinions

[@AraeS]

@ms honey Oh my god, shut up. Jk Rowling is a real WOMAN, who suffered all kinds of abuse from her first husband. She did not have to have hormones or surgery to be a recognized WOMAN, no, she fought for her rights as a woman and in fact continues to do so by talking about everything that is currently happening. You are the ones who take women's rights with your ideas from the 500th century B.C. Why can't they be accepted as they are? Are you a girl who likes to do childish things? Are you a boy who likes to do girlish things? ... Well guess what: you can do whatever you want, if you are a child who wants to play with dolls, play with dolls, if you are a child who likes children, then go out with whoever you want. Are you a girl who likes girls? Well dating a girl, just because you like women doesn't mean you're a man By God ... I remember one thing, before when women could not vote they did not expect to become men, they fought to be able to vote because it was their right as women.

[@yasminejade9676]

She has such sad yet beautiful eyes

[@jaelucky388]

This has to be my favorite interview with her. It's like she's finally talking to someone who truly understands her. Like they are creative lovers.

[@eltyo340]

The eyes she was giving him - admiration leaning into desire

[@fj2165]

The way Rowling talks about these books, they are her life. The characters live in her. And they live in us forever too.

[@Ariana-fv3tp]

These were the finest books ever written. Made my childhood a million times better. I’ve waited to feel the same profound connection with a book again, but never could. I wonder why that was. This is very nostalgic for most of us and will forever be a part of the good old days.

[@mursaleensaleem1806]

True

[@sheepdog2423]

You should try the Artemis Fowl series, it was a close second for me

[@garrick5873]

Read The Neverending Story. Very different from the film, and a wonderful, wonderful book.

[@ThatDangerousWolf]

Read Lord of the Rings or the Discworld series or A Song of Ice and Fire - I love HP, but it’s nowhere near the best fantasy ever written

[@Ariana-fv3tp]

@@sheepdog2423 omg thanx! I will. My days are turning very boring.

[@jaydee4697]

To be honest, I still think Steve Kloves hated Ron as a character. Kloves spent most of the films turning Ron into a walking punch-line, and only gave him a few good moments at the end because Rowling made it crystal-clear in the last book that Ron was always more than just a joke. It would also explain why Steve Kloves gave so many of Ron's best moments to Hermione, and why the films made Hermione Ron's role as Harry's closest friend and ally. Seriously, Rupert Grint deserved better than the meagre characterisation he was given.

[@mennakhaled3161]

and dont get me started on how horrendous he made Ginny,, i have always visualized her to be a strong girl, stronger than hermione perhaps. she grew up with SIX boys and had to constantly be overshadowed by them. she felt merely misunderstood by everyone around her, hence everything that happens in the second book. then in the fifth book, you really get to see Ginny's badass side, you really get to see that she is one badass woman like her mother, she was funny, brave and not afraid of anything, not to mention that she has a very strong personality. and that the reason why Harry fell in love with her. In the movie Ginny is just this girl who is obsessed with this famous teenage boy. i was, and still am, very disappointed in how Ginny was made to look in the movies.

[@catguy4996]

At least Rupert Grint had it better than Bonnie Wright (who played Ginny). Bonny Wright only had just *two* moments in the whole series where she was actually given something to work with, one when she told Draco to leave Harry alone- and two when she shouted at the whole Quidditch team to "SHUT IT!" Those were the only moments where she was like Ginny from the book. Otherwise she was an extremely awkward human being and Bonnie Wright, even if she didn't look it, must've been bored out of her mind when doing the role of Ginny.

[@jaydee4697]

@@nazsherif5514 I understand what you mean; although I think Male Gaze is more to do with female characters being heavily sexualised on the pretence that the audience is a heterosexual male (hence, male gaze). It's especially frustrating, considering that Rowling used the book characters to subvert those expectations; Ron actually fits the mould of 'love interest' for the lead (since he is the emotional support), whereas Hermione has the sidekick thing of having talents that the main hero does not. The films mangling of the characters completely wrecked all those subverted tropes.

[@jaydee4697]

@@nazsherif5514 Oooh, I see now. Sorry; got confused. I definitely agree that the HP films inserted a lot of that in the story, and it really impacted on how the characters were adapted from the books. Don't apologise; I like talking about this stuff.

[@jaydee4697]

@@nazsherif5514 No worries. I suppose. But I wish it hadn't just been because the men in question were leering at film!Hermione.

[@chylan3669]

I honestly wouldn’t mind 12 hour long Harry Potter films🤷🏾‍♂️

[@blairkilgallon8741]

I love that story about Evanna, I love that she's just one of us, just a Potterhead who wondered into an open audition and became a part of the this world that we love. I'm glad one of us manged to achieve that dream.

[@caramelunicorn8023]

I loved Hermione, but yeah Ron was downplayed way too much.

[@bonniestar4707]

And Ginny

[@blueskybelyr]

Yesh... Ron was Harry's best friend, and in the movies they interact so awkwardly? It's like Hermione's the only one keeping them together, which is the opposite in the books

[@AA-qb7ni]

and ginny. she had the potential of being one of the best characters in the film but they downplayed her and made her pretty boring.

[@marvinschannel5391]

My personal opinion people saying Ron Weasley was done dirty in the movies.. for someone who has read the books.. I completely disagree when people say that.. now when people say Ginny Weasley was done dirty in the films I completely agree! But Ron Weasley in films in my opinion he doesn’t get enough credit and people say he doesn’t have enough stand out moments or his character to shine I completely disagree so while yes I would of added more to his character but I think the performance by Rupert Grint made up for that because he played Ron Weasley so incredibly well and was still a great loyal friend to Harry and Hermione and he was the glue to the Trio and kept them together! I didn’t mind the comedy their added to his character it wasn’t just butt of jokes like Finn from the Star Wars sequel trilogy.. Ron in movies was fine really good just not perfect but you could say same thing about Harry and Hermione you can nitpick anything from any character in these movies.. just my opinion compare to some other books to movie adaptation Harry Potter was done perfect and I don’t think the TV series is going to capture that magic! Just my opinion 😊

[@nickjjismyhusband]

I love hearing Jo walk about her HP world. She has such an encyclopedic knowledge of it its mind blowing.

[@tychocurious]

DESI she’s very, very intelligent

[@alexispapageorgiou72]

Her characters' depth is inspiring. You could feel her sorrow while talking over their demise from the same pen that gave them life. That's inspiring too.

[@Mini89632]

Easy to discuss her natural world, she genuinely is Rita Skeeter

[@lillyd589]

so he's the reason hermione is perfect and ron is completely dumb in the movies

[@flugsven]

Lillith Dörsch Sorry, but yes.

[@nont18411]

Hermione only appeared in movie 1 and 2. After she’s petrified, she died and came back as a Mary Sue from that point on.

[@catguy4996]

@@nont18411 I know man. Hermione was almost a Mary Sue at that point. She did do some wrong things- they still didn't take out the part where Hermione attacks Ron with those birds. But other than that, she was made to be *too* perfect.

[@claireakaforestgreenorgang9506]

He ruined the movies for me. I love Ron. I hate Hermione. Hermione is a beeyotch! I don't mind her intelligence, I mind her stuck-up, bossy personality.

[@catguy4996]

@@claireakaforestgreenorgang9506 True that, and Hermione was actually portrayed very well in the films by Emma Watson. I can't deny that. But the screenwriter Steve Kloves totally exaggerated her character, Hermione was not flawless. She was not meant to be like "Ray" in the new Star Wars films.

[@akankhyapanda9237]

If you look closely, Harry Potter by Daniel Radcliffe was perfectly casted. Dan is perfect combination of awkwardness, witty, restless, misunderstood.

[@Gabriela.Lamira]

Indeed!

[@MrParkerman6]

*cast, not casted, dumbass.

[@mykhailohohol8708]

In my opinion, in the books he was a bit more aggressive and savage, especially with people he hated(snape), in films he was milder, also portrayed smarter and more capable, in books he more often relies on others. Looks in my imagination also differ quite a bit, in books he's thinner, hair is crazy, eyes are greener. In films he's just average.

[@limlaith]

I must echo others and say that I would happily listen to Rowling talk to absolutely anyone about these books and their universe for hours on end. She is extraordinary. This was a fascinating conversation and I wish there were more like this. I love that I am only now seeing this even though it's 6 years old at the time of my writing here. ☺ This may be my favorite interview with her, in part because it's less an interview and more catching up with a good fiend she hasn't seen in ages. 🙂 I have enormous admiration for her as a writer - her Cormoran Strike novels are excellent in their own right - but I'm also greatly inspired by her sensitivity and integrity concerning matters outside the realm of fiction. I am so glad that she is weathering all the storms swirling about her and the grotesque attacks aimed at her, and I wish her success and happiness in all her endeavors.

[@GP71_OO]

Rupert is a great actor he did a much better jog in philosopher stone than Dan and Emma if you pay attetion

[@flugsven]

I agree with them that Rupert hasn't got much cred for his acting, but I think it IS about the script. It actually did make a prat out of him more than once. He's not the complex person in the films that we meet in the books. He's almost never unpleasant in the films. And I too believe it's unfair, because when given a chance he's always proved why he was casted. The row between him and Harry in the last film was almost breathtaking. I also think they took the Lavender Brown character a few miles too far. She really was silly enough in the books without exaggerating.

[@flugsven]

Ps. Speaking of wich, in film seven I really missed Ron silently crying after breaking the locket, and Harry admitting that most evenings he and Hermione didn't even talk to each other. Their naked vulnerabarity really brought dept to it all. And instead Ron was supposed to shrug his shoulders smile and move on. So one dimentional compared with the book. A lost opportunity.

[@tjpm]

Rupert was always my favorite as an actor. Daniel was the worst until the end. But i loved him none the less.

[@MrLidek]

I see what you mean. Ron and Hermione have met my expectations fully, but there was always something about Dan that was not right for me. But still I do not know what??

[@signe2703]

Lidia F the thing about Dan was that his character was much harder to express. As jk rowling mentioned, Harry is the eyes through which we view the world. You don't get much of an idea of what kind of character Harry is in the books, so imagine how hard it must have been for Dan to make him more "real"..I personally think he did a tremendous job. 🙌

[@alok26k68]

Nothing brings out the emotion in me like Harry Potter. So heart-filling, so devastating. I love how honest and real JKR is. Such an incredible woman ❤

[@AnnRita45]

She IS a grand goddess of a woman!!! I’m so happy that I have read and watched the books and movies at a sore time in my life, and basically the WHOLE UNIVERSE of HP, in part, is a humongous part in my growing up, and I am forever grateful for that

[@luciaapa4540]

She shaped my childhood with her books... Harry Potter forever!!!!

[@hello-il4mm]

Bellatrix should've had more screen time in the movies. Helena Bonham Carter played her so well.

[@marioalpizar2000]

You're somehow right, cause, actually, she appeared more in the movies than the books, so I'd say she had enough screen time

[@gretekr.7907]

I think it's funny that JK thinks, Ron is way easier to love than Hermione... I always get the impression that Ron is the most underrated character of the Trio. And as Harry is the protagonist and Hermione and Ron are his best friends, most people like all three of them.

[@jaydee4697]

Ron's underrated because the films turned him into a joke. Rupert Grint deserved better scripts.

[@noname-bu6xs]

Jay Dee totally

[@klaudiagrob]

@@jaydee4697 I read books and I can honestly say I didn't like Ron. But according to some fans only people who didn't read books don't like Ron. But those who read books are supposed to like him. Yes he had good moments but he had moments where I hated his attitude. Actually I'm glad that the movie didn't show how Ron is trying to hurt Crookshanks or many other moments like when he's telling Ginny to go away because Harry has something to tell them. That was in the Prisoner of Azkaban.

[@gideonMorrison]

@@klaudiagrob wake up, real kids are like that as well. Even the 'good ones'. We all learn through trial and error, especially growing up

[@anusritineogi3168]

@@klaudiagrob okay. Now go and shove harmony po** fics up in your a** NO ONE cares about your Ron hating bs ❤

[@Lauren-xm3hf]

"There is a movie tale and there is a book tale" Truer words have never been said. They are separate entities

[@MrParkerman6]

NO!

[@dhruvbharija172]

True

[@IreneGarciaTorres]

Totally

[@MrParkerman6]

@dhruvbharija172 No it isn't true, fucking dumbasses Don't skip over my comment, idiot!

[@saberhamlinconmaverickknud4821]

So, the lazy filmmakers had to make one of the most rushed and shittiest franchises ever created, from one of the best books ever written, because movies are a different medium…? 🤔 If each Harry Potter film were 4 1/2 hours or longer, then audiences beyond count would still have flocked to the theaters!

[@breezy3392]

I want to see "The Making of the Marauders" whether it is a book, a movie or a Tv series!!!

[@salembookworm]

The good old days when Jo wasn't cancelled by the entire cast of the movies of her own book.

[@princepeterwolf]

right? missing those days

[@forcecaptainoverlordsuprem2964]

An ungrateful lot.

[@F_Yale]

Actors were never known to have a sense of integrity. They merely do what they're told.

[@angeliqueroux3017]

So she told the director Dumbledore is gay even before the Fantastic Beasts series? Which means, the whole “tried to save face by making a character gay” is actually false. 🤔

[@limlaith]

@@angeliqueroux3017 I knew Dumbledore was gay when I read the books. It's obvious that he and Grindlewald were lovers. People who clearly didn't know the books very well and had never seen her interviewed before jumped all over her (and continue to do so) for absolutely no reason. Yes, it was bloody obvious that Dumbledore was gay in the books!

[@janedicklerlebow9696]

I come to this party rather late, but I must express my thanks to you and to J. K. Rowling and Mr. Kloves for giving me a chance to be a fly on the wall - or even a silent guest in the room - while they converse. It is a rare treat to be part of something so intimate and meaningful. I am in your debt, all of you.

[@maureen100001]

its so beautiful to watch... two writers confiding in each other and sharing the inner most thoughts. Im glad Jo Rowling and Steve happened to have similar personalities. or it would have been extremely difficult

[@youdontneedtoknow7624]

though i appreciate the incredible adaptation of the books to the films and the work steve put in, it was very evident he favoured hermione over ron what with her getting almost all of his lines. he also completely washed over ginny, she was only ever given small moments where she resembled book ginny, but every other part she was made to look awkward and her relationship with harry always seemed forced despite the fact that i loved them anyway.

[@noname-bu6xs]

I agree with you although I don’t think it’s a good adaptation. So many characters are completely different from the original ones, and that’s a big deal

[@klaudiagrob]

In the books Hermione had amazing and important moments. But canon shippers make it seem as if Hermione was just this bossy friend. Yes she was bossy. But she did a lot for Harry in the books. Goblet of Fire she brought him sandwiches. She gave him a hug after Dumbledore died. I mean books there are many other instances where Hermione is a good friend and instances when she's nagging friend. But I wish I had a friend like her. As for Ginny she didn't have many moments in the books.

[@IreneGarciaTorres]

Rupert could have been a much better ron if they gave him the chance, the script didn't make him justice, and its clear here when u hear kloves talking about his character. They should have cared more....

[@noname-bu6xs]

absolutely!!

[@jaydee4697]

Kloves deliberately made Ron look bad; hence why he gave most of Ron's best moments to Hermione. Same for Ginny having most of her character erased. It's even been theorised that Kloves wanted to have Harry and Hermione as a couple, and that's why he diminished Ron and Ginny's so much, because they "got in the way" of his preferred pairing.

[@noname-bu6xs]

Jay Dee Yess! But I think it’s not Kloves fault of his own (although I really dislike him), probably it’s a warn*rbros demand. OOTP was not written by Kloves and still bashes Ron down and favorites Hermione. Not mentioning that Ginny’s development is forgotten in that movie, witch was really important in the book. Also, a lot of directors deleted important Ron moments, so... :(

[@jaydee4697]

@@noname-bu6xs True, but I think Kloves' earlier scripts laid the groundwork for what happened in OOTP. Kloves was the main cause of it all, most likely.

[@klaudiagrob]

@@jaydee4697 Yes of course Ginny stood out in every book. Come on let's not exaggerate. Lets say in book 3 she wasn't present much. Neither was she present in book 4 that much. Harry and Hermione had important moments in the books too. But canon shippers and Ron/Ginny fans make it seem as if Harry and Hermione were distant. I also liked Hermione in the books as well as movies. This guy had a bloody difficult job.

[@thomas261989]

Rupert has such a lovely voice

[@noname-bu6xs]

he is amazing

[@brenthelton]

Harry Potter is my favorite. It will go down in history as one of the greatest fictional stories of all time. Well done!

[@anriquehuman7367]

It's weird, I'll never forgive Kloves for how he wrote Ginny and how he romanticized HBP

[@bonniestar4707]

I know right. Movie Ginny was like a cut out paper doll version of Book Ginny in a way

[@MIS315]

He turned her into a floozy

[@_adil-]

It's my favourite book dude and it's the worst adaptation out of the series along with GoF. I liked Ginny in the books and even think Bonnie was a good choice .. the writers really dropped the ball on her

[@colorfullyme]

He doesnt know how to write women... likely a reflection of his subconscious views of women.

[@MIS315]

@@colorfullyme didn't know how to write men either

[@Clairski3]

Wow, such much respect for JKR. In Steve's defense, he wrote A LOT more than was eventually in the final cut of the movies. It's the directors and editors who decide what stays in and what doesn't -- but I do agree he gave many of Ron's good lines to Hermione.

[@klaudiagrob]

Disaster Ron was so perfect in the books hahaha. like how could he hahaha. Let's not forget that Ron had awful lines and moments in the books. But a lot of fans find themselves in Ron. As apparently Ron is more relatable haha. I don't relate to him one bit. Steve Kloves had a bloody difficult job.

[@MrParkerman6]

No! It is The Editor who usually decides what stays, but that is no excuse, his writing was lazy with no character developement.

[@mxhsvn_b7866]

@@klaudiagrob omg ur literally spreading hate under every comment get a life woman

[@kristinmartin2899]

There’s no defending what he did.

[@amalmed9753]

I'm envious of the fact that she knows so much more about the harry potter world. More details, more backstories, maybe even more futures

[@GRIGA01]

Two geniuses, the only thing I wish they had discussed was the importance of John Williams music to the series.

[@cynicalidealist11]

Thank you so much for posting this! I've been feeling quite nostalgic recently, so of course this is perfect!

[@akayrk]

Gosh, you just gotta love JKR.. She's something else..and everything

[@forcecaptainoverlordsuprem2964]

I feel the same way

[@Slam_24]

I just want another series of books or movies about kids going through Hogwarts again. It is the most pleasing feeling in the world to re-experience school through a fantastic world.

[@coenfealy4731]

I’m actually writing an idea about this art a year after the battle of Hogwarts and I might pitch the idea to JKR

[@Emsjacobo]

Well, Steve sorry to bring it to ya but you kinda did a horrible job on your job with ginny she's a badass in the books but you made her awakard with harry asf

[@susn1987]

@Lawn Mower That's absolute bullshit. Go read the books, apparently subtext isn't your forte.

[@Schenta]

Lawn Mower either way, she wasn’t as dull in the books as she is in the movies

[@catguy4996]

Yeah, they totally butchered Ron, Ginny, and a few other characters in favour of Hermione. It actually makes Hermione *more* irritating in the films than she is in the books, because at least in the books she isn't almost a flawless Queen. And as we know flawless characters are extremely dull.

[@rasalpaul4574]

@Lawn Mower you are wrong you see the develop of Ron and Hermione since The Prisoner of Azkaban. Read the books.

[@daftbanna7202]

@Lawn Mower what do you mean?? Nothing points Harry to Hermione. Not once in the books is Harry attracted to Hermione

[@matrix2297]

Rupert was the best casting out of the main 3. His comedic relief and believability as Ron was outstanding. I can imagine the other two having been played by other actors and to a better degree, but I don't know that you could have cast a better Ron.

[@kristianberg4264]

I’m 100% going to argue that,at this point, I could not see anyone else inhabiting Harry or Hermione like Daniel & Emma did, no way.

[@olorin4317]

I loved Luna, the character and the actress. Such a cool story to hear.

[@DanY-gx2dv]

Authors will never understand we don't need 8-hour films. We just need loyal adaptations. "Small" things such as Harry repairing his original wand and putting the Elder Wand back in Dumbledore's tomb. Why not at least repair his original wand before breaking the Elder? Leaving out Sirius' mirror in film 5 until film 8. Tonks not getting to tell Harry that she and Lupin were having a child. All of these things were unnecessarily changed or dropped and would've taken less than 1 minute in the film to get right. It's not about length, not about quantity, but QUALITY.

[@Ranger1812]

Danyl Young The quality was off the charts. Putting the Elder Wand back where it's already been taken from once, then going off to become an Auror, the job with the highest chance of you being disarmed, beaten, or killed, is just dumb. However, snapping the Elder Wand is a completely selfless act. It breaks the cycle. Harry sees it as nothing more than a magnet for those who crave power above all else. To leave it intact is to take too big a chance of other megalomaniacs coming looking for it. Snapping it in two not only stops all the bloodshed and power-trips that go along with it, it also represents the breakdown of evil and corruption and prejudice that caused the all prior events to unfold. In the book, Harry puts it back in Dumbledore's grave believing, if he manages to go undefeated his whole life, the Elder Wand's allegiance will die with him. There's absolutely no evidence to support that; again, it's too big a risk. I understand that's a reason why Dumbledore wanted Snape to kill him. As he planned his death with Snape, he wouldn't have been overpowered, so its allegiance wouldn't change. That was an assumption on Dumbledore's part, though, and, I believe, an incorrect one. The Elder Wand is shown to be extremely fickle, much more so than any normal wand. It craves only power, not caring who its master is, so long as they beat the last person who owned it. Dumbledore wielded it for over half a century, and one Expellimarmus caused it to switch allegiance. That doesn't sound like something that's allegiance would die with you. I believe, if its master were to die in a manner other than murder, its allegiance would simply reset. It would lie there, waiting for a wizard to come and pick it up. They'd then become the master, and the cycle would start again. Snapping it ends that. It's the most selfless thing Harry could have done. Dumbledore always had a problem with the craving of power, and he would never pretend otherwise. By doing something Dumbledore perhaps couldn't bring himself to do, and something that brings peace, as Dumbledore desired, Harry truly honours him. Of course, I do wish they'd shown him repairing his own wand first, but, again, you can't deny there's real meaning behind him snapping it. As for Tonks being pregnant, she tried to tell everyone but Moody interrupted her. And having her way it only to later see her die wouldn't work as well as Reis revealing to he audience that she was pregnant. She did tell Harry, just as he did repair his wand, it just happened off-screen.

[@liteoner]

Maybe not 8-hour long films, but 8 one-hour long episodes.

[@Ameersuhail]

@Graig Simmonette It was given during a very traumatic, stressful and distracting period. You won't believe the number of times I have completely forgotten something I had been looking forward to for years, because of the stress I was enduring at the time. If anything, it resonated with me even more, even I had completely forgotten about the mirror until Harry found and broke it, and I knew EXACTLY what he was feeling at that moment, because it had happened with me before.

[@froboythestud]

Could not agree more!!!

[@florathepagan]

Or writing in scenes that don't move the plot forward as opposed to scenes that are integral. A perfect example is Half Blood Prince; the Burrow being destroyed never happened in the books and took up the time that perhaps some of Tom Riddle's backstory that literally tell us what the horcruxes are (the scene with Hepzibah Smith!) I was so annoyed that that wasn't in the film.

[@colorfullyme]

I HATE that he claims Hermione is his favorite character, when he consistently wrote her as such a perfect immature view of a perfect woman. To not include her flaws-- her bossiness, stubbornness, closed-mindedness, anxiety, panic under pressure, etc.-- while claiming she is your favorite character just shows that he did not see or understand the real Hermione. This hurts because in mainstream society and media women are so often expected to be perfect in order to be likable or even valuable. His writing did a disservice to the complex character in the books and ultimately to women.

[@nirvairsingh6502]

He is even worse than Umbridge. His favouritism ruined many charcaters watched all over the world

[@mattg8600]

Nirvair Singh He is worse than Umbridge? Being a tad dramatic

[@klaudiagrob]

I read books and I liked Hermione.

[@_natya]

He made Hermoine look more close to Harry than Ron. In Deathly Hallows pt2 , he made only Hermoine cry and hug Harry when Ron was just standing there. IT JUST MAKES ME SOOOOOO MAD

[@dhruvbharija172]

No she was bossy in movies too but Ik book lovers are so annoying and the women you are talking about is book ginny

[@abbiemalone5655]

Just me that wishes they did make 12 hour long movies n still would spend every moment to watch them!!!

[@Olivia-vk2op]

Ron is so easy to love. Years later everyone hates Ron because of how Steve Kloves made him in the film.

[@ScarlettwyvernMC]

There’s so many people in the comments saying that they hate this guy because of how he portrayed characters or how he cut out scenes. But I think everyone just needs to appreciate what a difficult job he actually had to do, to take Jo’s books and try and do them justice in a movie length is a really difficult thing to do. And if the writer of the books is happy with them then that’s good enough for me

[@groot8950]

Exactly.

[@marchildatimackay6808]

And I think we should appreciate how difficult it was for Rowling to make all the characters well-grown so that kloves didn't have to ruin it. Don't you ever see the reason why Rowling just accepted what kloves had made? the first until the second movie were precisely the same as the books Rowling's wrote until the third and the last that kloves just ruined all of it. Don't you think it'll be weird if Rowling were angry if she complained about he characters kloves made? You'd likely think she were like an old hag witch. That's why Rowling like 'Gosh.. allright do whatever you want'

[@yonalourensia2178]

@@marchildatimackay6808 right? I had a trifle of feeling that Rowling just succumbed and didn't want to start a fight😂

[@dhruvbharija172]

Finally someone with brain he did a great job

[@MrParkerman6]

He didn't have a difficult job, the books are incredibly easy to adapt to screenplays of 2 hour and 30 minute movies. I could do a WAYYY better job. I would have give the relationships better development too.

[@AR-mq2sd]

It's great when a film taking from a book effectively tells the story but still leaves the books readable and desirable seperate from the films

[@jessicajarrett1879]

I'm glad they discussed Goblet at length, I was so upset at the cuts in that book/film, because the puzzle in it (with Crouch and Winky) was one of my favourite parts, but I'm glad to hear that he also struggled with the cut of it. That mystery could be a movie within itself I guess. But I could watch endless discussion around this world and the layers that go into it.

[@omgisthatvik]

I was hoping they’d speak about the final battle scene between Harry and Voldemort... it was so epic in the book where they were circling each other and Harry telling Voldy the facts of what’s happened and explaining why he has won... I thought the movie scene didn’t quite do it justice.

[@mvick4198]

I gotta disagree.the movie did fine with the battle between the two. I thought the book version was anti-climactic which ends in a very long and confusing sentence

[@tichondriusstormrage]

Can't agree more man :/ there's a lot I love about the movies, but I thought the silent, lone duel between harry and Voldemort to end the series was such a poor decision and so much worse than the books

[@Muslimah1987]

The movies did nothing justice.

[@VeganQuiche]

EXACTLY! I get mad everytime I watch it!

[@MrLidek]

While listening to the video, I had an impression that they only spoke about first four series, especially The Goblin of Fire.

[@Team_rocket1144]

Surprised they didn't talk about Snape

[@squeekyshoez7712]

Yah. . Best role/actor of em all. . R.i.P

[@lisamayoshairandmakeupstyl7312]

I love her as a writer and her personality... I was 11 when I seen he first Harry Potter for the first time , in a theatre with my whole class...I grew up with the characters. Now my son is about to turn 11 and I can't wait to show him the magical world of Harry Potter. ❤️

[@rashmaahmad6527]

I love jk rowling for saying that ron is her favourite character!!!!!!!! I MEAN RON IS THE BEST CHARACTER OF THE SERIES and SNAPE is also marvellous character!!!!!! NO DENYING IT

[@klaudiagrob]

I read books and I never liked Ron. But I do like Snape.

[@MrParkerman6]

She didn't, dumbass. He did. She has never said her favorite.

[@forcecaptainoverlordsuprem2964]

@@klaudiagrob yeah well I read the books and I couldn't stand Snape

[@Patrick-jm3sp]

She signed my copy of Order of the Phoenix in Portland when I was 11 =D

[@luciaapa4540]

Omg... that’s epic keep that book safe!

[@elifnurtan7965]

I wanna buy that book skjgk

[@arielle8010]

I had a really rough childhood, but my LOVE for fiction is what stopped me from becoming a really bad person, and even though I don't have all of the movies, I've seen and read all of the books and movies!!! I will NEVER not LOVE the Harry Potter universe!!! ❤ ❤❤🥰💯❤

[@theknitwit7098]

Reading saved my life. If I had g had that, I might not have survived childhood.

[@herodotus1601]

Harry potter series brought some kind of a book revolution ... it inspired reading in young minds ... this is one of a kind series

[@theodorelemineur7661]

Jk Rowling's laugh is so real and so cute. She's the realest celebrity I know.

[@alexaofelia2750]

“As a writer you always crave a degree of anonymity ” I guess that’s where Robert Galbraith came in

[@abbyhuntley3171]

What I really loved that was added to the movies was all of Ron's hilarious dialogue - it is so perfectly matched to his character, especially the movie version, and to a British teenage public school lad!

[@shreyajoshi3376]

The worst thing the movies had done was not changing Ron's character but keeping Kloves as the writer for six fricking movies

[@catthebeautyhunter]

This guy looks like he could be Matthew Perry's brother. On another note, so glad everything with HP (books and movies) turned out as they did. I really got lucky to grow up with Harry ❤️

[@rush92287]

He also looks kinda like Mark Ruffalo to me.

[@EdwardBloom89]

And the way he talks reminds me of Louis CK.

[@Moosegrove1989]

I think he kind of looks like Donny Osmand

[@NoctLightCloud]

we will one day look at this footage and find it so inspiring. I wished more such interviews were recorded with her - and similarly famous authors such as Tolkien.

[@cedricgist7614]

Second time I've watched this video. Was pleased that novelist and screenwriter collaborated so well in bringing story to screen. I suspect that this is rare. Am glad Jo Rowling stayed involved with the filmmaking process and came to trust that Steve Kloves and the several directors would translate her vision to screen in a way she would approve.

[@augustsunshine2860]

She's just an awesome person 😩 I LOVE her style 😍😍 She always looks so beautiful and glowy!!

[@Paul_Wetor]

I love seeing Jo and Steve together. They are so bonded by their shared feelings about the stories.

[@MrParkerman6]

I see absolutely no bond or connection between the two. They have less chemistry than the Harry Potter characters in The Scripts Steve Wrote!

[@karenlm9062]

I was like whoa...what's Matthew Perry doing interviewing JK Rowling.

[@flugsven]

Karen Lm I had to google "Matthew Perry"! But I never liked Friends. I watched it alot, unwillingly, though, because my ex loved it.

[@MrParkerman6]

Could you BE anymore Funny!!???

[@2toes209]

Rip

[@chloe-lj8eo]

harry potter books and movies are such an escape from the world around us

[@voyance4elle]

thank you very much! :) I love how she is dressed in white and he is dressed in black^^ they're like yin and yang :D

[@michaeleast4979]

voyance4elle are you emo

[@voyance4elle]

no. why?

[@soufian2733]

voyance4elle I noticed too. same with their hair

[@samt1705]

I feel privileged listening these intelligent people!

[@soph7187]

“i loved writing for those three” no steve u loved writing for hermione so much u made her have no imperfections.

[@daftbanna7202]

I don't care about plot points I care most that Ron is undervalued throughout the movies and I get Hermione is his favourite character. The worst part is Hermione is great cuz of her flaws and when you take them away it makes her worse

[@noname-bu6xs]

yessss

[@klaudiagrob]

People complain about Kloves because they can't stand the fact that Ron and Ginny aren't perfect. I read books and I never thought that Ron was undervalued. In fact books had his good moments and bad moments. People dislike Hermione because she likes to read and study. In my opinion movie made her better.

[@mjrussell414]

I liked the movies and will watch them whenever they are on TV, but never had a desire to read the books (felt I was too old), but watching this conversation has convinced me to embark on that journey. I want to read all the bits they say had to be cut out.

[@Tippiewiththehippie]

Do it. I’ve just finished the books series for the first time, just a couple days ago, and it’s the best thing to happen to my life.

[@indiegrab360]

I cracked open book 5 and found it very kid-centric. Like I shouldn't be reading it as a 35 year old. However, re-cracked Book 1 open and it's very readable for an adult. Dahl-esque.

[@Polin-dx5ru]

Mad that she didn’t bring up the “DIDJAPUTYANAMEINDAGOBLETOFFIYAH” scene

[@nabihakarim7521]

The Yule Ball did have a part that could be improved - Parvati and Padma Patil's dresses. They could have been so much better.

[@flugsven]

If one is not accostumed to saris, and I'm not, they' re looking fabulous! When I married, my bridesmaid had a stunning sari in golden yellow and shimmering emerald green. (And a thick, looong loose plait) Sari is just beautiful.

[@kavya2898]

@@flugsven I think NABIHA KARIM is saying that the saris could have been better saris. I agree as well. They weren't that great there are better saris.

[@flugsven]

Kavya A. My bridesmaids sari Were more beautiful, I sha'nt deny that🤗 I just think compared to the other girls' dressrobes they were totally ok! (Hermiones pink made her look slighty ill)

[@mllesarahyasmine]

omg thank you!! been wanting someone to upload this cos i don't have a dvd player in my laptop and can't rematch this as much as i would like to :') X

[@aggeliki1354]

I wish JK Rowling had a talking show and just give us some insight into the characters, their thoughts, their backstories, etc.

[@scapingby]

I used to have very minimal interest in HP growing up. i'd watch each film in cinema but it never interested me in the same way LoTR or other fantasy could. Now i'm 26 i re-watched all the HP films from the beginning and i'm potted outta my mind.

[@wolfmoon9816]

Awww they should do a really long SERIES like maybe really good amimation style and detailed af and more from the books etc...that would be epic!!!!!

[@Carfalog]

Since everybody seems keen on blasting Kloves for his adaptation to screen, I’ll give him a massive amount of credit for his work given the pressure and challenge of turning a 7 novel series into a coherent set of films.

[@b1g_m445]

Agreed. As much as I dislike Kloves for what he did to Ron's character, it's definitely not an easy task turning a large novel series into good films

[@EphemeralProductions]

me too!

[@kristinmartin2899]

It’s a hard job but it’s also not that difficult to give the correct lines to the correct character who is already in the scene and not waste time with dancing. Also literally anything is better than “shoelace”.

[@RyanStorey1231]

Is it weird that I kind of have a crush on J.K. Rowling? She's just so brilliant and passionate, and she has such kind eyes.

[@forcecaptainoverlordsuprem2964]

A little wierd. Isn't she too old for you?

[@jonprice3337]

That was fantastic! Thanks for posting. Great insight triggering almost overwhelming nostalgia :)

[@Polin-dx5ru]

What is so fascinating about the Harry Potter universe is JUST how much detail Jo has gone into like the smallest details and characters you never see or hear from really and there’s just so much back story and details etc

[@idkwhattonameit8359]

J.K is so cute beside so smart , i mean how could she write the harry potter , such an amazing woman

[@terabaap1775]

The main reason I love Harry Potter is because I can connect with the main trio the most. I could connect with Harry the most, I almost always had the same thoughts as Harry, he'd do the exact same thing in a situation which I would expect myself to do if I were in his situation. I always felt like I was emotionally most attached to Harry. And also, most of the my friends perceived me as Hermione, so I could connect with Hermione greatly too. And, my best friends are like Ron, I love Ron because he's exactly like my best friends, he's my most favourite character in the entire series. This is why I love Harry Potter, I would connect mentally, emotionally and spiritually with it which is why it is my favourite series ❤

[@Robersora]

I love the nuances in how they tend to say the same thing with different words.

[@imnobody3490]

Thank you so much much mum Rowland for doing this and everything you've have done

[@alexpaulalexpaulalexpaul]

THANK YOU! I have wanted to watch this for years!

[@nigelcarren]

My favourite character is J. K. Rowling. 🏆

[@alanaalbarado2357]

I love to watch movies adapted from books first then read the books bc the movies can’t show you everything so you’re left wanting more and you may have questions that weren’t answered and reading the story after will fill in those blanks and satisfy your imagination😉📚☺️

[@ceciliesrli1213]

This dude's obsession with Hermione is the reason why Ron is underrated. The movies would be 10x times better if Kloves just kept his opinion to himself and not ruin one of the best characters in the whole franchise. Honestly Ron wasn't that bad in the movies but the prisoner of azkaban annoys the hell out of me. In the books he stood up for Snape for being unfair to Hermione, but in the movies he said: "He's got a point you know" But at the same time, I feel like he wasn't succesfull making Ron the worst golden trio member. Ron made a few obvious mistakes but Harry and Hermione made small mistakes all the time. Let's start with Hermione. I think Kloves needs to learn what a "nice" person is. Both movie Hermione and book Hermione has an ability to point out small mistakes and be annoyed at Ron when he says something. She also got mad at Ron for being with someone else than her when she didn't even tell him how she felt about him and she weren't even happy when her best friend for six years that have been shadowed by Harry finally got some attention. Hermione, you accepted Harry and Cho but Ron isn't allowed to be with Hermione. And then its the fact that she's a lot nicer to Harry and doesn't act to him like he's an idiot. She always forgive him for his mistakes but never Ron. And then there's Harry. I don't think Kloves made Harry an angry and self centered idiot on purpose but he defintley did. Harry also replies to Ron like he's an idiot and he never seems intrested when Ron tells him anything but on the other hand he loves talking about his own problems and Voldemort. And nobody's gonna talk about how he got angry at Ron when he just stood up to him. Ron stood up to Harry when Seamus called him a liar. Ron and Seamus were great friends and in the movies Ron went to Seamus when him and Harry were fighting. The fact that he got mad at a great friend for calling out his best friend. He also saved Harry from drowning, I know its not that relevant (because Steve Kloves is the director) but he also saved Tonks in deathly hallows part one, he killed Wormtail, saved Hermione from Bellatrix, he was the only one panicking when Hermione was screaming and more! In my opinion Harry is the worst golden trio member in the movies and Hermione in the books

[@EscargoTouChaud]

I am not original enough to have a favourite, so I'll say this: the trio works with all their differences, strengths and flaws. Hermione's empathy and virtues are overlooked by those who criticise her. Yes, she can seem intellectually snobbish, but she IS smarter than many. Can you imagine being surrounded by peers who with few exceptions are slower than you? Would you NEVER roll your eyes or get annoyed? Furthermore, they need each other's qualities. Ron and Hermione's loyalty is according to me what keeps Harry sane. Hermione comes up with so many idead that are useful to them too; like the polyjuice potion and the bloody Dumbledore's Army!

[@sushi_mermaid7116]

This is so relaxing to listen to while I study Japanese 💕

[@johnr7279]

This was so great to watch. Seeing the person interviewed that invented Harry and the entire "wizarding world" is really something to see. Harry Potter is something that the books translated quite well onto the screen. So, also very interesting to see what kind of thinking went into that. Even where the story had to bend and diverge a little was done in the best possible way. I wish the Tolkien films had turned out like this but they just did not.

[@__porter]

I really wish they would do a 10 years later version of this!

[@MuhammadUmar-df4nb]

Severus Snape is my favorite character in Harry Potter series.....his childhood was like my childhood 😥😥😥😥😥😥😥

[@Ozymandi_as]

I've only read one Potter, and never seen any of the films, but I found this an engrossing and charming conversation.

[@lizbet5242]

Never seen any of the films? Have you been in a coma for the last 20 years!?

[@charmedprince]

@@lizbet5242 lol

[@kels4650md]

After hearing the casting story of Evanna Lynch as Luna, I’m soo relieved that she’s one of the few HP actors who’s defended JK Rowling in recent years from all the “transphobia” nonsense

[@anahelenakrause]

19:52 Absolutely! I did und do read HP not because of the magic, but of the characters. They are so deep, there are so many life lessons there, all above about real friendship. I'm glad my children like them so much as I do and we discuss a lot about their personalities, actions, choices, feelings. And we compare ourselves with them. I think, these books help me a lot parenting my kids. Thanks, JKR!

[@zachcouch8654]

00:07 12 hour long films….I’m listening.

[@joewhitehead3]

Definitely gotta appreciation the hard work these two have put into their writing

[@prateek752]

JKR - YES A million times yes. Kloves - No