MLM HORROR STORIES #36 | Two MLM reps competing to recruit the same colleague

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[@lrodenlr]

When someone uses the phrase "retire their husband" it always makes me think that "retire" means something else. Like what people do to old race horses who can no longer run so they take them out back ... LOL

[@hellaluigi5252]

The sound I just made was not human 😂😂😂

[@timriehl1500]

I thought the same, lol.

[@koinwonderland4309]

This genuinely made me laugh. Thanks! I needed that. Lol

[@eloisepharmacist]

Me to 😂😂😂

[@Mama_Bear524]

That’s why I hate it. I couldn’t put my finger on why it bothered me so much 😂

[@ferretrunner09]

Re: the gynecologist. Yes, it is an ethical violation. She’s in a position of trust. She’s recommending a “supplement” that is not supported by evidenced based practice. If the doctor is trying to recruit- that is a huge ethical violation. If anyone ever experiences something like this- report the doctor to their the state board of health. There will be an investigation into the report. If it’s legitimate, nothing will happen to the doctor. If it’s an ethical or medical practice violation, the doctor will be sanctioned.

[@eloisepharmacist]

Definitely. I'm a Pharmacist and had a Synergy worldwide Hun try to convince me to sell her products as I had mentioned in a nutrition group vitamin D maybe worth it for most people. When I found out the prices and the company I declined saying I ethically couldn't. How can I sell vitamin D for £30 when I can tell someone to buy it for £3 at the supermarket!! And there is no difference in "purity"!!

[@JudithLawrence718]

But it's okay for an OBGn to tell you which pre Natal vitamin to purchase and offer you a prescription or coupon to buy it. All vitamins are unregulated... it's got to be all one way or the other.

[@RobynNanae]

@@JudithLawrence718 eh, I don’t know. I had a prescribed pre-natal for my second pregnancy, so some certainly are more regulated than OTC brands. I think the difference is that this doctor is making unsubstantiated medical claims and that Juice Plus has caused some major health issues for other people. Plus, it could all depend on the wording JP uses.

[@JudithLawrence718]

@@RobynNanae I think the whole premise of assuming that a product must be bad if an MLM produces it is what bothers me most. Also, if a doctor can prescribe one kind of unregulated vitamin and not another seems like it's too subjective. The same rule of thumb should be applied across the board...don't promote one brand over the other, etc... I'm just playing devil's advocate here as I have no iron in the fire.

[@missamanda2703]

I have seen co workers ie; nurses who have lost great jobs for trying to hook co workers yet patient families

[@umisnotananswer6215]

Guidelines or not, if my doctor starts pitching a weight loss shake powder or some other MLM nonsense, I'm switching providers.

[@easternflower6476]

I love your avatar and username lol 😂

[@Solonneysa]

I agree. I had a psychologist start trying to peddle supplements from some random woman online. Therapist said she hadn't used them but was thinking about trying it. I felt like a Guinea pig, and I looked up the seller and the person isn't any sort of licensed clinician. I bailed immediately. This stuff permeates and festers in everything and I can't stand it.

[@soybeanokra]

I’m so proud of myself, as soon as you read “coffee shop,” I said “it’s Amway” 😂😂

[@jenniferevans8653]

Me too! That, and "mentor."

[@libertymedicalcommunicatio4908]

Yes, physicians can recommend supplements to patients, as long as they do not benefit financially from doing so. I'm guessing this OB-Gyn crossed the line

[@HannahAlonzo]

That makes sense, thank you for clarifying!

[@ashidentprone]

I was thinking similarly. Supplements don’t have to be “prescribed” but recommended. (However, I am prescribed Potassium and D3 which are readily available for anyone. For cost reason, I have them prescribed so insurance covers it otherwise they were recommended initially.)

[@eragonarya225]

Physicians can’t even recommend specific prescription medications if they’re receiving money from the manufacturing company; that’s why doctors get tons of merch with drug names on them and lots of fancy lunches (the drug company is spending money on the doctors to encourage prescriptions without directly handing the doctors money for prescriptions). John Oliver did a whole segment on pharma reps and how they try to toe that line as close as possible, if anyone hasn’t seen it and wants to follow a semi-related tangent. I’ve had iron and b-complex supplements recommended to me since I had an anemia scare in high school, the doctors I’ve discussed it with never have specific brand recommendations beyond “mid-tier drugstore brand is probably fine.”

[@pattipeters9861]

That’s what I was thinking - that would be the same as getting kickbacks from certain prescribed drugs

[@TheDNDWizard]

Yeah, my PCP put me on B12 but I'm obviously just buying that at store, she doesn't write me a script but just told me to take them after I came back deficient in it.

[@summerbummer1930]

I've been binging your entire MLM catalog over the last couple weeks or so. My 72yo mom had to have emergency surgery a few weeks ago and has had a bit of a hard time recovering physically and mentally and as her only child, it's on me to make decisions on her behalf and well..it's been a lot to deal with suddenly overnight. Something about your voice is very soothing and calming for me which might sound kinda weird, but I'm not about to fight it lol. The playlists really come in handy while I'm cleaning up her hoarder home so it'll be safer for her. Your content is helpful in so many ways, thank you. 💜

[@brookem225]

Ha! Not weird. Yesterday I had a CT scan for the first time. I was nervous, so I put on a Hannah vid ❤ She's very calming!

[@ashidentprone]

I think it’s the 2nd grade teacher in her 😂 I understand what you mean 😁

[@PopChanx]

I think so too, tbh! Hannah has a very nice voice, but she's overall such a calming presence as well, you know?

[@unstablecoffetable3508]

I'm glad you found something soothing to support you through this! I wish you and your mother all the best. Take care!

[@luckyneko1]

I hope things get better for you and your mom soon. I took care of my mom 24/7 the last few years. I do know how hard it is. Sending you hugs. My mom died in October at age 94. I miss her so much and although it was hard, I don't regret all I did to care for her.

[@kimspeer6394]

My midwife tried to get me into Melaleuca. This was after my son was born, I remember her telling me she was teaming up with a Dr in the same practice. They were recruiting patients, she was always available to me via text, especially when I had questions. I was a new mom, however when I declined joining. She stopped responding, highly unprofessional, if not unethical.

[@SjofnBM1989]

That's insanely unethical from start to finish. You should probably report them

[@kimspeer6394]

I did. She ended up leaving the practice.

[@kimspeer6394]

Oh. She still tried to recruit me like a year later. These people are desperate.

[@angieemm]

Something I've noticed over the years is that the women who stay in MLMs the longest seem to be the ones who have really supportive, high-earner husbands. I'm almost positive most of them know MLMs are money pits but, like the first story, 'it makes them happy' and gives the wives something to do, so they let it slide.

[@Laurengrey410]

That is really what I’m getting to. They were stay at home mom’s or house wives in stable financial situations that left them with extra money to burn, and they just needed a hobby to fill up their free time or to make them feel like they had a bigger purpose. Then an MLM hun comes a long and the rest is history.

[@nicolesnaturalpath8010]

My thoughts exactly!

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

@@Laurengrey410 I wish these ladies would just pick up hobbies like Woodworking. Sowing. Any kind of art or craft! Writing!

[@madeline_anne]

I’ve thought that too and it must really suck being the spouse who’s thinking “eh they seem to enjoy it, I won’t burst their bubble” whilst the MLMer is thinking they’re really supporting their family and/or being a big business boss 😐

[@tiararoxeanne1318]

​@@DracoTristeIt sounds like your former employers were not satisfied with your work. They quitted having your service with the reason they couldn't afford it to spare your feeling. And here you are bashing them instead of being retrospective with your quality of work.

[@shereadsmysteries]

My headcanon is that CutCo doesn’t want to rent out space because they have to constantly be “on the run” so they just take over abandoned spaces until they are discovered or until they have to leave to avoid confrontation.

[@mylittlesuperhero581]

they did that in the town i live in now 13 plus years ago. they are absolutely predatory and disgusting

[@thebookwitch895]

I agree, sounds very likely (also, it's the first time I hear "headcanon" outside of fandom related content, I love it!! )

[@shereadsmysteries]

@@thebookwitch895 Yeah I thought about it after I typed it 😂

[@SjofnBM1989]

That's not head canon that's literally exactly what they do

[@Just.a.girl.named.Kristy]

Any doctor schilling MLM products should be subject to a suspension in their medical license. That is beyond unethical! The power difference between a physician and patient is great, and the patient would feel obligated and trusts a doctors recommendation. The doctor only gains incentives from sales/recruitment and the patient could suffer. It's dishonest and scary to not have a doctor look for what is best for the patient and preying on the trust between patient and doctor. That's my take on why doctors should have their medical license suspended for schilling MLM products.

[@alicenwonderreadsbooks]

I just realized my daughter,who just graduated high school, has been getting letters from Vector marketing. I didn’t make the cutco connection. She knows all about pyramid schemes. She heard me watching one of your videos with a team call and wanted to know what I was watching. She was worried I was joining a pyramid scheme and thought I was on a call with the huns!

[@mylittlesuperhero581]

they were horrible for hitting up kids just out of high-school when I was 18. I got sucked in at 17. they lied about my birthday year and i found out a few months later. I'm 31 now.

[@KellyKleinKeepsItReal]

There is a big difference between someone in a trusted position (like a medical professional) 1) recommending a supplement, and 2) recommending a supplement that you personally sell in order to directly benefit. Hard to rule out a conflict of interests. If not illegal, certainly unethical.

[@Lady.B0420]

Oh SHITE, I met a girl a few years back that gave me the same book. I didn't know she was trying to recruit me into an MLM. I thought she was trying to recruit me into the illuminati, and it was all so shady. Thank God it was just an MLM

[@cats1900]

A few years back we had a few employees get into scentsy at work. Before HR shut it down, the smells of a million wax melts flooded the floor. It was a horrible 6 months.

[@golden8972]

Yep. I worked at an elementary school and the office staff did the same thing. Talk about nauseating!

[@kateemma22]

End up at a creepy, abandoned strip mall: "This is either the home of Vector or a serial killer. Gosh I hope it's the latter."

[@shoobymcdooberson7466]

Hey, an AMWAY consultant gave me a copy of "Go-Giver" while trying to recruit me, too! She tried to pick me up from my job at Five Guys and got me to relate as an autistic person by talking about her own autistic child and how she got to spend more time with them by having her own business. The recruitment meeting was in a half-renovated elementary school. It HEAVILY employed evangelical Christian mentality.

[@oddmnemosyne2869]

The intersection of MLM huns and Autism Moms is astoundingly large.

[@hellogirl1998]

I got my copy of Go-Giver right as I signed on to be an "Independent Business Owner" with Amway haha. It definitely seems like one of their 10 commandments/bible-like texts

[@madisonbutler3874]

One of my favorite things about you is how your eyes get wider as the lies get more ridiculous...I love it!

[@cashstuffingmama1984]

The gyno story triggered a memory. My old gyno (I moved and don't see her anymore) had Juice Plus posters in her patient rooms! She never talked about it, but I had no idea at the time (10+ years ago) that it was an MLM. So weird! Thank goodness she never pushed them on me!

[@Just.a.girl.named.Kristy]

Story 3 should be called "Battle of the Huns" so crazy work places let that go on. The places I worked at had strict rules to not solicit other employees and one job specially said MLMs will have a zero tolerance. And they meant it! I watched a girl (18 years old) only last one week after getting the job when she was caught pitching her MLM. The girl was fired on the spot. Two managers and an HR staff member stood there and gave her 0 time to do anything except gather her belongings and leave.

[@lizajane2971]

👍👍👍

[@lauralarrabee7870]

My first day at a health insurance company there was this lady who was giving out her card for massage therapy in the break room. Someone must have reported it because management rushed out and asked to meet her outside within minutes. I went back because break was over and was saw the conversation was serious. One minute later management walked in saying she was gone. Management showed they weren’t playing around. It’s sad because she had a legitimate business with licenses. She wasn’t being pushy she just passed her card around for those who showed interest. I feigned interest just to be nice. However I can see how people can get annoyed.

[@Nillybilly]

I’m taking a business class at my local community college to finish my Communication degree, and one of my classmates commented on my entrepreneurship discussion post about how she “started her own business” at home with Color Street and how she was so excited about it. I respectfully replied with a few thoughts and then emailed my business prof to see what her thoughts were. She encouraged me for being “savvy” but said that many MLMs provide great commission pay and are very successful, plus one of our deans sells Mary Kay and she “likes it because it’s so empowering to women.” LOL. I couldn’t argue with my teacher, so I just thought of all the arguments I could email back and politely kept them to myself 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@alchapopapo]

If you pay for education.... feel free to give feedback to your prof..... they are not your boss.... you pay them. ;) People In leadership are not automatically correct and someone in a business class should know how problematic MLMs are. But we'll done on keeping it cool... I wouldn't be able to!!!! 🤣

[@Nillybilly]

@@alchapopapo hahah yes I typed out a response, figured it would just be petty since I already made my point initially, and said thanks for the input 😆

[@alchapopapo]

@@Nillybilly the moment you realise you'll be so ok in life... cos you're smarter than the professor in so many ways.

[@msthrillingcommentary1343]

@@alchapopapo I agree! Had an ethical argument in a Lit class. I 100% disagreed with my instructor. I used a specific argument in my rationale that didn’t directly refute his opinion. I replaced racism with Imperialism & let’s be honest..it’s the same idea in action. He surprisingly passed me on that essay question. I was willing to take a lower grade to state my opinion.

[@golden8972]

Man, if my doctor tried to pitch me an MLM product (especially a "health" product), I'd be RUNNING out of that office at LIGHTNING SPEED!!

[@l1s4sp1ts3]

About the peppermint oil, my General practitioner actually did recommend peppermint oil capsules (not from an MLM but just from the local drugstore) for my IBS and they do genuinely help against bloating and cramps, granted, I don't know if taking shots of peppermint oil would be particularly healthy or helpful though.

[@loveandpanic]

The difference between obtaining the essential oil of something and just the oil of something, is profoundly different! That's why essential oils are meant for aromatherapy and are very strong in that sense, and oils can generally be consumed and have health benefits. Peppermint has many benefits but peppermint essential oil is mainly meant for aromatherapy

[@sashagemini7623]

peppermint gum is my acid reflux secret. You get the peppermint benefits plus your stomach acid changes because the chewing and saliva tells the stomach it's about to get food. Game changer for a chronic acid reflux gal like me

[@starlingswallow]

I also had a fever (during my purchasing YL oils time:) and took peppermint oil in vegan capsules and it did make my fever go down 😳 It didn't make me better, though. The fever kept coming back. And now I know that fevers are our bodies way of getting rid of sickness or infection... (fever is a good thing, unless it's _really_ high, then go see a doctor!)

[@leenpeet]

@@sashagemini7623 used to chew a lottt of gum when I was pregnant! It really helped with my mild nausea and constant ‘full’ feeling at the end when the baby was so big she pushed my stomach and lungs up

[@DracoTriste]

Peppermint gum and peppermint capsules don’t contain essential oils of peppermint, just peppermint oil. Essential oils are extracted and then distilled to be extra potent. They are not the same as flavor oils or regular oils and should not be ingested. Peppermint has been highly effective for me with nausea during pregnancy-Altoids worked best for me! And so much cheaper than a bottle of essential oil

[@joygernautm6641]

I work in a hospital, and one of my nurse colleagues got really into some sort of MLM light therapy thing. He was a psych ward nurse, and was starting to pitch it to his patients and colleagues. he lost his license to practice.

[@TheLondonLass]

I don't think I will ever stop being shocked at the cost of MLM products! A hun once tried to sell me some make-up and the prices were about the same as some high-end brands. I stood there thinking, 'why would I buy this crap I've never heard of when I could buy a tried and tested premium product for around the same price?!'

[@CarboneCat]

Zeke announcing his presence will never get old.

[@Roxyredshoes]

Surely health care professionals selling MLM products to their own clients is at least a conflict of interest?! That’s insane.

[@abbyjohnson1702]

No amount of love bombing and toxic positivity on this earth could keep me from noticing my bank balance going from "mildly irresponsible 3AM Amazon purchase" low on funds, to "WHAT HAVE WE DONE" broke. How does this even happen? How does one rationalize long term success several months from now against today's rent and ramen?

[@dalanietaylor474]

So many comments have said this, but your energy really is calming! I have tried to watch other MLM creators and they’re so harsh and sometimes mean about the people who get caught up in MLMs. I love & appreciate how understanding & kind you are about those that get wrapped up in it!! ❤️

[@SashaSRenee]

My bf who is completely uninterested in anything regarding mlms, was so intrigued by the LuLaRich documentary. I honestly hope people make more documentaries like it exposing other shady businesses

[@frst78]

Gosh that first husband is just like mine bless his heart lol. He's a keeper. Anything to make his love happy, poor guy😅

[@laina-brown]

Just found out someone I really respect joined a new MLM called Crunchi. I think that's how you spell it. I was so excited for more social media posts from them, and then I realized.

[@Soaring_Seajay]

I’ve stopped all MLM support thanks to videos like these (Beachbody, Colorstreet) except I have been ordering Crunchi from someone who paid a lot of $ for me to do a training course for me to start an Amazon business. Which I am still doing over 4 years later. I guess out of guilt, like paying her back, I buy stuff. I do actually like the products but would love to see a deep dive on it that I could maybe share with her.

[@PaigeAshleighB]

@@Soaring_Seajay maybe you can pay them back now that you have your business up and running to release yourself from the guilt and the mlm? Maybe that would make you feel better about the situation all around.

[@Soaring_Seajay]

@@PaigeAshleighB Yeah, I’ve definitely paid her back in product purchases. But I would still like a deep dive to show her! To help her get out ya know? She’s a smart lady and worth so much more than that.

[@juliadepuye]

i got the same letter from vector marketing right after i graduated. luckily i was already on anti mlm youtube and spotted the scammy vibes right away

[@s0lastsummer7]

Raise your hands if you can picture the huns saying, "your family tree is a pyramid scheme!!" Like they say about corporate jobs 😂🤦🏻‍♀️

[@glendawalker3056]

Hi Hannah, there are prescription prenatal vitamins that are fda regulated. The over the counter ones are not. (Was a pharmacy technician in a previous life) 😊

[@HannahAlonzo]

This is so helpful, thank you!!

[@kaccents]

As a research Chemist I feel the difference between recommending a prenatal vitamin and recommending juice plus is prenatals are recommended by ACOG (American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology) a regulatory body of medical providers and backed by many "good" studies and meta analysis. Juice plus is not recommended by ACOG and does not have strong studies to back its efficacy.

[@daisybeeYT]

Story 3 holy cow! I’ve never heard of 2 MLM reps from 2 different companies working at the same corporate job, fight over a prospect! What a wild story! I’m so glad they got rid of the manager. It is absolutely inappropriate to drag an employee to take about an MLM! Its wild!

[@marthagizaw4914]

Hey Hannah, your channel is really awesome. This fall, I’ll begin my second year as a Ph.D. student, and I was such a fool for being sucked into an MLM this last semester. I’ll tell you so much more about it in horror story form before I return to school. Thanks!

[@frea_o]

I think my Vector interview might have been in a church basement. And luckily my own laziness and lack of initiative saved me from it. "This sounds like a terrible amount of work, I'd rather sweep the floor at Taco Bell."

[@the_Sarahnator]

I'm grateful for your videos, Hannah! Trying to finish things up for a craft fair this weekend and it's so nice to hear your voice while doing so. Not in a creepy way -- it's just relaxing! 😂

[@ashleyhuke]

LOL anytime someone talks about the essential oil MLMs I always think of that Bob's Burgers episode where Gayle tries to stop Linda from joining an essential oil MLM and is obsessed with the peppermint oil

[@helen6365]

I’m kinda upset that I have to take a break from watching this 😂 I didn’t know juice plus was a MLM!! My mom fed me that stuff when I was super anemic when I was in HS.I’d have BOXES of that crap under my bathroom sink cause I always forgot to take them. Im so DONE! She even had me sign up for Legalshield when I was 18 and I didn’t know THAT was an MLM until watch your videos. Omg I legit can’t rn

[@emilyvanderlaan7699]

There has to be some policy against selling products/services to your patients for your personal “business” at the doctors office. There has to be!

[@sherylsande7295]

Those 2 Hun's disparaging the other to get you in their "family" are acting like they're in high school instead of adults in adult jobs. The whole abandoned strip mall screams sketchy and my murder-mystery-watching self says don't go! there!

[@sunnyfawn13]

Your videos are so helpful!!!! I’ve been slowly leaving my cult for the past two years after twelve in. I’m down from 100 to 24 customers. Goal is to be out this year! I appreciate you!

[@andromeda156]

"Betting on Zero" about Herbalife is also a brilliant documentary :)

[@raetay113]

To the Vector Marketing story: I was in the same place as you! College freshman after graduating top of class with IB/AP classed under my belt and got sucked into an MLM. Not just you❤️

[@saltwalk]

13 years ago, I went to a chiropractor, got an adjustment, and a consultation on how I could make better lifestyle choices. I was young, never heard of MLMs. During my appointment, I was strongly urged to take Melaleuca vitamins. Trusting the advice I was given, I bought a subscription to receive them monthly or something. Later, they told me how I could make make lots of money selling the same stuff. I politely said no because I hate sales (still not suspecting anything), but I continued buying the products, like the cinnamon mouthwash in addition to the vitamins for the next few months. I showed up to work with an empty Melaleuca box to decorate my office cubicle and that's when my kind coworkers had the talk with me about MLMs and I canceled placing orders. Since then, I've been wary of most MLMs selling especially medicinal products and I've seen so many family members and neighbors get sucked into these shady business practices. Yikes! I'm just glad I didn't turn into one of those people ending all their facebook posts with a link to a "life changing" product. I'd rather die than be annoying.

[@lauracatania5063]

The Cutco experience never changes. I had almost the same experience in the early 90s (including the dads reaction to it 😂)

[@md206md]

This Amway explanation you gave is spot on. I get approached for MLMs constantly. I work in cellular sales and unfortunately spend hours setting up phones and service for customers... I had a guy come in and REFUSE to give me the name of the company and he kept trying to set up a coffee date with me to talk about his business- which he explained was just selling products online and having freedom and so much income etc etc. The red flags went up, it's hard to say no to people, when you're stuck with them and are also trying to make them happy/sell to them. Once in awhile I brighten up and say "oh, that's an MLM right?" And they just act really confused or get a lot quieter for the rest of the interaction.

[@candacestamper6769]

The nurses at my OBGYN were attempting to sale Snake Plus or whatever from Beach Body. I told them I'd be filing a complaint to the local ethics board and I never saw the products in the office again.

[@juliebradley1184]

Hannah, I absolutely enjoy your anti-MLM videos the most! You have such a calming and informative vibe ✨️ I hope you're having a wonderful day! 😃

[@marrymar1274]

Excellent timing, had just finished Hannah’s full mlm playlist and was wondering what to watch next 😂

[@jaimefok]

OMG! I had an IDENTICAL experience with Vector/CutCo. Same unkept abandoned strip mall vibes, everything. I had no idea what MLMs were at the time, but I just remember feeling like it was so sketchy, even as a new grad without any real professional experience. My parents were also weirded out by the idea that I'd have to purchase my own materials and confirmed with me that I shouldn't take the job. Thank goodness I didn't. It didn't even occur to me that Vector was an MLM until this year... that's over 6 years after the interview!

[@Quagthistle]

I had to google "What is a swinger?" to understand this one. Clearly, there are many things that, at my lofty age of 41, I have not yet learned about the world. That said, you'd be hard-pressed to find another 41-year-old who can name more Pokemon than me. Heh heh. :)

[@nicollevelez8149]

Yes!!! Love horror stories so excited thank you Hannah! Thank you for all you do. I have a horror story that is not mlm but your content helped me see the similarities and I finally got out!

[@monicaaaxo]

The juice plus story sounds like the OBGYN I used to work for! 😳😳😳😳

[@libertymedicalcommunicatio4908]

Yes on the Juice Plus+ deep dive, please!

[@MisplacedTexan]

I have cancer. You wouldn’t BELIEVE how the huns have come calling since I decided to go public with my battle. Between the huns and the people with high school educations who want to tell me how chemo will kill me… I’m amazed at how crazy and cringey people can be.

[@OneDeep74]

Glad to see your channel blowing up for this content!!! I swear it was yesterday you were somewhere in the 50k subscriber range when I subscribed you’ve been super consistent and 100% factual while exposing these scam companies keep up the great work I enjoy these videos quite a bit

[@ktmkj1]

I know in Australia that this (gynaecologist) goes against AHPRA's (Australian health practitioners regulatory association) code of conduct, and code of ethics. We have such strict rules on what you are aloud to do they smash into our heads how easy it is to loose registration and some of the fines are massive. (I'm an ex student nurse and current student OT) love you Hanna and the cats 🐈 😻

[@RockLikeAStone]

My sisters adopted mom always joins MLMs and is in optavia now and they also have a policy of not saying the company name to start. I got it out of her after a couple beers though. At one point she was hospitalized because she fainted from their starvation diet

[@saphire1020]

It is the absolute worst. It is a starvation diet and I am ashamed to say I tried it twice. The second time made me extremely sick and so never again.

[@toiletfrog]

Listening while cleaning the cabin for Airbnb guests

[@chibimistress7445]

The ad I got on this video. How to be a network marketer lol.

[@Kayla_P99]

I'm watching this with my kitten, she perked right up when your cat started talking.

[@atxcats42]

Haha, I keep talking back to one of my cats, but it's not my cat! This happens almost every time I watch your videos! Right now my cat is scowling at me with that "Why did you wake me up?!" look.

[@morgan.b.writes]

OMG LINDA. She was BIG in my upline in “Babes in Business” 🤢 (Juice Plus). Having MLM PTSD thinking about her. 😅

[@rebeccacruikshank1048]

Shout out to the person who mentioned CaBi Clothing- you just unlocked a memory for me, and I cannot WAIT to write in, and hopefully have my story read! It’s something special 😂😅

[@deannab56]

I would 100% report this ob/gyn if I worked for her or was her patient. I also wonder if she could be violating the Sunshine Act?

[@yogadork_namaste]

Hey Hannah!! Thank you for another horror stories video, you know they're my favorite series on your channel!

[@mallowhoney]

that husband's a keeper

[@SharkFreak79]

Canadian nurse here. I can't prescribe anything, but I do know about ethics in healthcare. Pressing your own opinion on a patient is unethical, so certainly making money off of vulnerable populations (i. e. Any patient, family member of a patient etc.) is highly unethical. Healthcare providers are supposed to protect & help vulnerable populations, not prey on them. Even legitimate treatment options should be presented with pros & cons, as well as the no treatment option. All this should be done as impartially as possible, and the patient encouraged to make the decision that is right for themselves. We are seen as authority figures, so we have to be careful about exerting undue influence, especially in favor of our own biases or opinions.

[@LindsayMc75]

One time a "friend" of mine called me and asked if I wanted to improve my life. I asked what it was and she refused to tell me. Instead she invited me to go to some seminar with her and when I said I couldn't afford to go because at the time I was looking for a job, she started insulting me and said I'm awful at communicating (I'm actually really good at communicating) and I'll never be able to get a regular job. I was beyond pissed and told her to never call me again. It was probably MLM #387 she was involved with.

[@SketchingWithSarah]

Hiii! Can’t wait to watch this on my commute! ☺️ Thank you for all you do and for being so empathetic and kind to every situation. Keep doing what you’re doing 💕

[@Aleex_xxd]

New video days are my favourite days! Can’t wait to watch this! ⭐️

[@TheHandle1990]

Your videos constantly remind me of a parking wars episode that a Mary Kay "consultant" got ticketed for illegally parking somewhere. Her first words were "you're really going to ticket the Mary Kay lady?" I think that particular segment was set in Detroit. I remember thinking "wow, Karen alert" and laughing at her because her reasons for not being ticketed were out of this world. Now, I'm surprised lady didn't start pitching the products to the parking officer (a male, maybe that is why). I understand that parking tickets are expensive ( I got ticketed 6 months ago in Philly and it was over $70). After watching your show, I now kinda feel bad for her because she probably legit thought she was above parking rules and didn't have the money for the ticket.

[@JardiHardi]

I look forward to your MLM videos they're such a nice length I can just sit down after a long day at work and the gym and just listen to you read !

[@ameliasparkles13]

Thank you for all your hard work and efforts that truly make a difference for the better ✨

[@tylereline5148]

can confirm about vector marketing, almost got into that with them as well, they love trying to get seniors in hs and young college kids

[@mdmpotatohead]

Hi Hannah! Love your content and thank you for being so kind!

[@Sate12]

Tarot reader. The problem with MLMs is that they are so deep into the cult, even if the cards said "Girl, *RUN*" She would have taken it as "run with this great business opportunity"

[@beccaferguson2511]

This isn't an MLM horror story or anything, but last night was the first time I stumbled upon an MLM rep on Instagram, and didn't know it. I've recently got into hair and skin care, which I know is exactly where the MLM Huns hide. Usually, I'm really good at being able to tell who is involved with an MLM. However, this girl just started a few weeks ago, so there wasn't much content for her MLM, yet. (Monat, by the way.) Also, coming across people, with my same hair type and skin challenges as me has been rare. So, I was probably a bit naive because of my excitement to find someone that does. I follow her, and a little while later I see a post on my Instagram feed, it's a video of her putting Monat on her skin and talking about how moisturizing it is. I unfollowed immediately. However, now she probably knows of my existence and I'm just waiting for that dreaded "Hey girl, do you want to be a boss babe?!" text. I know my story is rather boring, but because it was my first experience getting fooled by an MLM Hun's instagram account, I had to share it with y'all 😅

[@kenziethemom]

Yay! I'm about to take a walk and needed something to listen to!

[@nikkiziegler9959]

Fire wives in my area do this to each other. ( R+F in particular) They act friendly to you, inviting you over for “play dates” with the kids and then they pitch you. Maybe a few times. And when they get that you’re not interested, they never call you again. 🙄

[@steph1907]

Omg my heart. The sweet significant other in the first story. 🖤🖤 He's too sweet.

[@emmavest3672]

That Amway story reminds me of when I was at my first job. I was around 19 and one of my coworkers was asking me about how college was going. I mentioned that I was in design and she said that she had a couple of mentors, and she asked if I'd like to meet them. I stupidly said sure cause I thought that it would be related in some way to my field since my coworker was interested in the same things I was. My coworker told me to meet her at the local Starbucks, and when I told my parents what I was doing they were incredibly concerned. I showed up at Starbucks and brought my portfolio of work with me, thinking I was meeting with people related to design. I met her mentors and they were very nice but they asked me some vague questions about if I wanted extra income, if I could read a book in three days that they'd give me, and if I'd be able to meet weekly at these get-togethers I guess the whole mentor group did (I said no to that cause design school is time consuming). I left the meeting feeling really weird, and when I saw my coworker a couple of days later, she asked if I was interested in joining. I said no because the meeting had nothing to do with design and they wouldn't tell me what the company was or anything. I've always wondered what the name of the company was and today I got my wish. It was Amway.

[@TheAlexstiles]

I had never even heard of juice plus until KZbin put an ad in front of one of YOUR videos! What the heck?? 😂 love your content, keep up the good work!

[@livinglegallyblind713]

The only time I ever got roped in to an MLM, was in the late 90s, before Internet was super popular, before social media, even before GPS. So I got roped in to vector marketing, at that point where I met them was in a very nice building, so they must’ve changed their practice since then. But also, I did not get a presentation before interviewing and my demonstration kid was free.

[@ginnygin7141]

Your short intros are THE BEST. long intros are the bane of my existence

[@unapologeticallyb5068]

Girl should have lied about that tarot reading I'm dead

[@gigglefyme]

The amway story had me SHOOK! and I didn't even realize what happened to me until hearing that story. Back in 2016 I was fresh out of high school when someone I was close to in high school had reached out to me to catch up, talk about life, and tell me about their new business. I thought nothing of it and was super stoked to hang out with a friend who went to college 2-3 hours away from me. He asked to go to a local coffee shop we frequented in HS, which didn't seem weird until I heard this freaking story! The whole situation was so weird because he brought his upline with and they both pitched Amway to me, I felt so uncomfortable the entire time. They tried setting up a video call for later for me to learn more which I ended up getting myself out of eventually. Between 16 credits for school and already having a retail job i loved I just didn't have the time and I'm so grateful they didn't suck me in. But I'm so stinking mad that going to a coffee shop is part of what the instruct you to do. It feels so icky!

[@karliblair6982]

Just sent in my mlm horror story with Vector Marketing! Hope to see it on your channel in the future! Thank you for making these videos 🥰

[@Danisy_Lo]

Thats so funny and cute. My husband said the same thing when I was sucked in to itworks. He knew it was an mlm n it was crappy but if I was happy he was happy lol so Adorable!

[@reidleblanc3140]

I swear you have a superpower being able to read emails "formatted" like story 6. I would take one look at that giant wall of text and nope out

[@AlwaysKDawg]

In regards to the gynecologist story, my psychiatrist recommended Better Help to me and with my knowledge of all the scandals and problems they've had over the past few years, I left her office questioning the ethical nature of that recommendation, because it left me stunned. It may not be an MLM, but it is a problematic site. I really want to know if doctors are allowed to just recommend things like this, cause I've been questioning this since April.

[@Just_CoJo]

Young Living, Juice Plus, and Melaleuca is sold at my chiropractor's office. I live in a rural area, so there is slim picking when it comes to providers. My chiropractor and her staff are wonderful and not pushy about the products at all. I've never been pitched to.

[@Lemonkiwiblue]

One of the ADs on this video was MLM huns selling 'a better way to network market' - it's 'free!' and 'what do you have to loose!?' Lol. At a book market last month an MLM hun was selling a similar thing as a book.

[@elizabethwillis885]

I thought I heard my son yelling “moooom!” from downstairs while watching your video. But then I realized it was just Zeke yelling “meow mom!” at you for attention 😂

[@tash4270]

Hi Hannah, thank goodness for a new upload! It's 3.30am here in Australia and I'm sitting up with influenza and waiting for my hot lemon water to cool ❤️

[@vjanec_]

OMG VECTOR🤣🤣🤣 I fell into that trap my sophomore year of college

[@elsathorson830]

I got mail from vector right around the time I graduated high school. There were already youtube videos about it being a scam back in 2015 lol