MLM2PRO VS R10 Who's Really More Accurate?

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Chapters
0:00 - 1:24 - Intro & The Battle
1:25 - 3:58 - Garmin Wedge Accuracy
3:59 - 7:46 - Garmin 8 Iron Accuracy
7:47 - 10:05 - Garmin 5 Iron Accuracy
10:06 - 12:01 - Garmin Shot Shaping Accuracy
12:02 - 15:40 - The NUMBERS - Garmin R10
15:41 - 18:12 - MLM2PRO Wedge Accuracy
18:13 - 20:03 - MLM2PRO 8 Iron Accuracy
20:04 - 22:21 - MLM2PRO 5 Iron Accuracy
22:21 - 24:27 - MLM2PRO Shot Shaping Accuracy
24:28 - 27:09 - The NUMBERS - MLM2PRO
27:09 - 29:11 - FINAL THOUGHTS

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[@rts3613]

Do you have to have the Rapsodo premium membership subscription to get full function on Awesome Golf or GSPro on the MLM2Pro? Same question for the Garmin R10. I'm trying to understand the ownership cost after the initial purchase.

[@tuanoful]

As a mid-high handicapper, I hit many slices, and the R10 told me I was hitting straight. That alone was enough to convince me to get the MLM2PRO with calculated sidespin. If I practice with the Garmin (friend has one) I was being told that all my drivers were straight bombs, then, on the course, SURPRISE SLICE! so no, Garmin is not good for mid-high handicappers.

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

The measured spin axis of the mlm2pro is a massive benefit. If you don’t have the RCT balls with the Garmin then it does struggle

[@BIIIKES]

Thanks for putting this together. I'm happy with my R10 and lifetime Awesome Golf license. No more money out of pocket, and does what I need it to do. I'm always weary of subscription based products. If the company goes out of business or shuts down their servers, you're SOL with your hardware.

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

The r10 performed well. It’s just the spin axis and face to path numbers that are questionable at times

[@boredymcboredface8624]

Awesome testing process and I think the way you put everything together took a lot of work and was well done. People need to remember one is 800$ (or

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

Thank you and yes they do take a long time to put together haha. I think the best value overall is a skytrak+

[@boredymcboredface8624]

@@davidmaxfieldgolf very welcome mate - I’ll get skytrack money saved up one day … meanwhile just going to keep commenting and liking videos to ‘feed the algorithm’ ;-)

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

@@boredymcboredface8624 really appreciate that

[@trentpatterson4305]

I've owned both, and do not for 1 seconds regret getting the mlm2pro. The side spin alone is worth it, and the distances are close enough, but still better than the r10 imo. But the r10 would show slices when the ball went the other way, if you're trying to work on shot shape and cannot afford skytrak or blp then this is your option

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

Yes agree 👍🏼 the side spin being measured makes quite a bit of different to those wanting to work the ball

[@MrQwebsoftware]

I took my R10 to the local range and set it up in one of the bays. It was a busy day so the bays either side of me were occupied. I found the yellow balls were able to be picked up but the white balls often weren’t read. Not sure if the players in the other bays were interfering with the reading but it might be worth testing the units at the range

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

I’ve done plenty of outdoor tests with the Garmin using both range balls and white balls. I haven’t come into that issue so not sure what was going on for you there. If the unit was pointed directly into the sun then it may have struggled

[@davidcole2337]

Looks like Both are pretty Close to the SkyTrak Plus.. Just really depends on the budget and what Simulator packages you want to bundle with it.

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

They did both perform really well. I think the additional features of the mlm2pro give it the edge value for money. Wi the impact vision, r speed, dual swing vision and a 240fps camera for slomo that’s really pretty awesome

[@timothypollock8358]

Nice job. Slight edge to the Rapsodo but judging by some of the comments below, maybe in the case of people really crossing the target line through the ball, a significant amount more edge than that. Cheers.

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

Yeah it has quite a lot of other benefits as well outside of just the numbers that puts it in front for me

[@ddeboy002]

Cool thanks.

[@iMelxis]

Still my only issue with MLM2Pro is that it lacks club path and face to path. I find it to be quite important if you're trying to work on your swing. Garmin R10 provides that info but on the other hand when I work on my swing it would be nice to know if I sliced a ball badly. That is why it's so difficult for me to choose and I wonder if either of these units is for me. What your thoughts on that David?

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

The Garmin R10 has it but it’s not accurate. I compared it with my skytrak+ and the differences were quite a lot. The MLM2PRO has impact vision and swing vision which is arguable better anyway where you can review every swing and shot with both video of the whole swing and a 240fps camera of the impact vision which literally shows your face to path

[@iMelxis]

@@davidmaxfieldgolf Thanks, that weighs heavily in favor of MLM2Pro!

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

@@iMelxis it does for sure

[@Overswinggolf]

I have both and my issue was the Garmin is very finicky with space and interference issues. I have a garage sim and limited room. The Rapsodo works better for me in my setup. Want to get the Skytrack at some point. But for now the Rapsodo is awesome

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

Mlm2pro is a seriously impressive unit

[@Dubnlove]

Next time you do one of these videos can you please add a huge hook and slice. It would be nice to see how each unit reads it. Thank you. Also I sold my garmin for a rapsodo thank you for all the great content. Definitely one the channels I watch consistently when a new video pops up

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

I did that with the shot shaping on the 5 iron 😁

[@Dubnlove]

@@davidmaxfieldgolf re-watched it. thank you!

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

@@Dubnlove No worries

[@RyanMcMurphy992]

How far do you have it ball to screen in your simulator.

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

Minimum of 9.5 feet

[@Dubnlove]

My question is I own the r10. I feel like If I do a big slice or a mis hit. The garnin almost reads it straight or slightly offline. Also when using it a sim I feel like the chipping is off. In your opinion does the mlm2 pro handle that better. I want work on shaping. More realistic making sure the ball is doing what it supposed to do when I hit it. I don’t want to keep hitting way off line but the garmin says it’s straight. Then I take it to the course and boom way off line. Thank you for the content

[@tuanoful]

A friend of mine has the R10, and that's exactly what happened. I am a 15 hdc so I do hit bad slices, specially with driver, more often than I'd like to admit.But when I play with his R10, I'm hitting straight bombs close to 300. I know that's not true, so, since I wanted numbers closer to reality, and the MLM2PRO has sidespin, I went with Rapsodo. I want to be able to do real practice with the simulator, and I just don't trust garmin with it. Maybe if I was really good and never hit slices, it would be fine, but I do hit slices, and i know I do.

[@Dubnlove]

How is your experience with the mlm2 pro. Our golfing skill is pretty close. What are your thoughts on it? I’m deciding to sell my garmin then picking up the mlm2. I know there is a subscription, I get it. Updates and software development are not free. Much rather pay for consistency and peace of mind then lies lol

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

The short chipping on the mlm2pro is a lot better because it’s reading the RPT pattern of the golf ball. I almost never have an issue with that side of things at all.

[@tuanoful]

@@Dubnlove I haven't tested enough, but from the start I feel more confident on what it's telling me. I used the Garmin for a week and I really didn't enjoy not being sure if I could trust it. With the MLM2PRO and the cameras, you also get to see if that weird shot actually happened (if in doubt) I would recommend

[@Dubnlove]

@@tuanoful you sold me on it

[@BBQ_Fan]

Nice review, what is better out of the Swing Caddie 4 and the Rapsodo in your opinion please?

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

Tough one as they're both really different units and probably for 2 different golfers. If a lot of your time is on the range then the SC4 is great but indoors and into a net the MLM2PRO has a lot of features

[@BBQ_Fan]

@@davidmaxfieldgolf thanks, my main use case is hitting into a garden net and working on impact and trying to rid myself of the 'flip'. The ease of setup for the SC4 does appeal

[@BBQ_Fan]

@@davidmaxfieldgolf is the mlm2pro easier to set up than the Garmin R10? I had huge problems with the Garmin R10 and it had to go back. Also with the mlm2pro, if you don't renew the subscription after a year, what does that actually leave you with? Do you still get some free E6 courses or is that must with the sub? Many thanks in advance

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

@@BBQ_Fan it’s much easier to setup than the r10. With the subscription, if you don’t renew then basically all of the features except for a couple are taken away. So no e6

[@user-gr6og9dj7l]

Yearly subscriptions are a massive NO THANK YOU, for most people.

[@davidmaxfieldgolf]

Actually from what I’ve found most people who have the mlm2pro are now more than happy to pay the subscription because they can see the value in it and for the original price of the unit it’s still a great deal

[@user-gr6og9dj7l]

@@davidmaxfieldgolf Not according to what Rick Shiels said on his podcast a while ago. Launch monitor subscriptions aren't popular, especially if you're already paying for GSPRO or other SIM software.

[@keithbutcher5386]

I have both. Only flaw im mlm2pro is lack of attack angle, which may be end of year fix. The video downloads udentifued my wrist flexing which prompted me to buy a Hack motion. Made a lot of difference to my dispersion and distance. Both great but mlm2pro shades it, regardless of subscription.

[@bidssare4368]

They lowered the membership from $199 to $99 that's a lot more reasonable

[@user-gr6og9dj7l]

@@bidssare4368 Oh wow only 50% rip off now. Someone in the R10 FB group is selling a Rapsodo, if you want it. They've sticking with ths R10, no connection issues, no subscription and just as accurate.