Modern Superheroes and The Loss of Positive Role Models

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[@Bingo_the_Pug]

I don’t think I can ever get over the fact that Reed Richards was immediately outsmarted & defeated by Wanda. She was so OP that none of them could even put up a decent fight. Xavier could’ve rendered her comatose in seconds but they nerfed him

[@gregorde]

The smartest man in the world, everyone

[@Oatieo1337]

Yea in house of M its Xavier they have to keep from Wanda as he will stop her

[@rlchenderson85]

@@gregorde so in that universe probably the 3 millionth smartest human

[@gregorde]

@@rlchenderson85 he’s literally called the smartest man on Earth in the comics, above even Tony Stark .

[@Tethloach1]

Overpowered characters have to bring something more than just being OP. If there is no tension, nobody will care about it. What does it offer to viewers?

[@gmajor1273]

Sarah Conners in Terminator 1 and 2 will forever be one of the best examples of how you develop a character.

[@Kraven83]

Connor*

[@Napoleonic_S]

not really, she did 180 off screen...

[@TromaDogg]

@@Napoleonic_S I'd agree with that. Yeah, you could argue that she'd 'toughened up' quite a bit by the end of the first movie but her jump from that portrayal to how she was acting in T2 was a bit of a leap too far IMO. I do much prefer the original Terminator over T2 anyway though.

[@Noperare]

@@Napoleonic_S I mean, by the end of T1 she alone had to destroy the Terminator then spent the next 12 years preparing for a war she KNOWS it is coming. Even if off screen, it makes sense.

[@beingsshepherd]

Imho it'd have been an infinitely wiser ending for Connor to have realised her own culpability in creating _Skynet_ by way of the consumer gadgets she depends on. I gather that this was a near subliminal message running through the first film, that amounted to nothing in the second.

[@benjaminskylerhill8276]

The parents in A Quiet Place are role models that I think are woefully overlooked. The father loves and protects his children no matter what and the mother’s commitment to selflessly putting herself in harm’s way for the protection of her kids is inspiring. Parenthood makes them better people, not worse off.

[@justinroux1610]

They were the ultimate badasses the dad gave his life for his kids the mother endured a nail in the foot so her kid wouldnt cry and scream even though she was in massive amounts of pain

[@gmajor1273]

Totally agree with you on that

[@dee-taylor]

If becoming a parent doesn't make you a better person you don't deserve to reproduce.

[@BilltheFifth]

Pretty cringey though...

[@HAYAOLEONE]

Film was ok

[@AshyView24]

As a father, I'll always show my kids the older films that do have better role models.

[@sh-hg4eg]

I've always done the same thing.

[@CapnArrich]

Big same, brother.

[@EverettBurger]

Scott and Clint, the two fathers, both sided with Steve in that the Sokovia Accords were a bad idea. The two parents believed in freedom over security. I found that interesting.

[@theelder4797]

Road House. Pain don't hurt. Unless it's a throat rip.

[@JackOswaldWhite1940]

@@EverettBurger In the case of Antman, him actually disagreeing with the accords and becoming an outlaw again actually renders his character arc in his own solo movie pointless and a complete waste of time. So it’s really just another case of Marvel mindlessly and stupidly destroying or completely undoing character development for no good reason. That airport fight scene literally character assassinated everybody involved except for black widow and black panther.

[@mythologybuff9829]

I know this one is probably a popular one, but The Lord Of The Rings has so many good role models. And if those movies are too much for younger kids, the Cronicles of Narnia is amazing.

[@DDGLJ]

I love how Eowyn, as a female, realizes she might be the only one who who could kill the Witch-King. What a clever bit of writing that shows she had her own personal destiny as a warrior while acknowledging she really didn’t have the physical strength of a man. Now that’s a well-written female badass.

[@superomegaprimemk2]

The Cronicles of Narnia aren't really that great, the films, the third film pretty much butchered the original book story, the old BBC TV show is more faithful to the books, thou the effects in that, haven't aged well as it was made back in the late 80s early 90s!

[@mythologybuff9829]

Totally see where you are coming from and I agree with your statement, but I still think there are lessons that can be learned from them.

[@rosefamilia3169]

My role model from that trilogy will always be Sam fucking Gamgee, you wish had a friend like him or just become a Sam for someone u care about

[@talithakoum3922]

The first Narnia film is good. The second and third are bad, but still better than anything Disney has done in the past five years or so. But the books are essential reading for every kid, and teen, and adult. They're short and accessible, but powerful. Everyone should own at least one copy of that series.

[@gregorde]

Doctor Who was a terrible loss to me. I’d been a fan since the 4th. And they turned that distinctly compassionate and heroic male role model into a psychopathic Karen. It’s a bit different from the typical hero’s journey.

[@MegaSpideyman]

Psychopathic?

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

Agreed

[@SergioLeonardoCornejo]

The lack of positive role models in Western media is entirely purposeful. Fiction isn't reality and doesn't directly influence reality, but fictional characters can actually represent role models and representatives of the principles our culture stands for. Imagine your culture standing for the way these characters behave.

[@tylerskiss]

I would think the people who are destroying these things would want us transfixed by the fantasy so as not to notice the reality. I feel like we are more aware because they are hitting us in the geek sphere as well.

[@rosezingleman5007]

It all started with “Dad is dumb” television shows in the late 1960s. “All in the Family” was the prime example, but there were numerous others, now forgotten. This is all driven by the feminist agenda, which is like Roundup [glyphosate] poured on the roots of the Tree of Life.

[@rmhartman]

comic book heroes are the modern myths. teaching the same values as the older myths did. which is why the left has set out to destroy them.

[@Slitheringpeanut]

It's all a communist plot, and I wish I was being conspiratorial.

[@twohseven]

There are innumerable primary historical sources to draw inspiration from, what makes the great fictions of time are the ways they draw upon and transmit these - a momentum that carries on in the spirit and mind. With the dumbing down of society, genius and inspiration becomes buried under mediocrity and lack. Normalcy becomes estranged to any balanced interchange in how people live life, together or individually.

[@terracottagecheese2767]

Wonder Woman was a huge role model for me as a little girl. I was completely captivated by her beauty and strength. She never put down any man she worked with and she never claimed to be perfectly equal with her fellow male Justice League members. Instead she was their partner: the strength in their weakness and them in hers. She taught me that there is strength in kindness and humility. And above all she showed me that femininity is not something to be seen as a weakness, but instead as something to be embraced.

[@houseofhas9355]

Maybe the older wonder woman, pre the movies of ww. But I don't see what you describe in ww 1984 at. it's an insult to Femminity. Some would say the first ww movie in 2017. But def not ww 1984.

[@terracottagecheese2767]

@@houseofhas9355 Hehe yeah, Wonder Woman 1984 was dreadful. I was leaning more towards what I grew up with, which was the Justice League cartoon, 70s tv show, and pre-2000s comics (mainly her earliest comics and the ones from the eighties).

[@houseofhas9355]

@@terracottagecheese2767 yeah pre-2000 comics. I know what you mean. Ww was in good hands then.

[@AdKThomas]

The Rocky series of films - a guy who started way down low, met a girl he liked at the local pet store. Rocky becomes an unexpected champion, a hero if you like, but all the time Adrian develops in the background. She sees his struggle and by Rocky 4 she shows what a strong woman she has become, and how much the 'hero' needs her.

[@Ryan-pz4dh]

Ellen Ripley in the first three Alien films (the only ones that matter) is in my mind the quintessential heroine. Even though I’m not a woman, Ripley’s story is very inspiring and all people from all backgrounds can understand it very well. I won’t spoil the three films even though I’m sure most people by now are as familiar with them as the original Star Wars trilogy but I will say that Ripley’s story and the way she handles herself while trying to survive against a hostile alien lifeform that rapes humans to reproduce all while trying to keep said lifeform away from her over-speculative employers trying to exploit it is certainly badass and worthy of the title of role model.

[@Bingo_the_Pug]

Even Beatrix Kiddo/The Bride from Kill Bill. She’s a badass but she also gets her ass handed to her in almost every fight in which she barely survived. She ultimately succeeds in the end but only after a lot of blood, sweat & tears. She was robbed of her motherhood & earned her victory to get it back.

[@AzraelThanatos]

Even the clone Ripley fits that in Resurrection with all of her issues through that.

[@OntarioBearHunter]

Same as Sara Connor... woman pushed into a role she wasn't ready for, but overcame obstacles and took on the challenge

[@garethdevlin5399]

The first two alien's were great not sure about the third

[@Ryan-pz4dh]

@@garethdevlin5399 I know the third has its flaws but I still enjoy it for what they tried to make and Ripley’s story wraps up really good

[@ckelly19841]

Rango comes to mind for me. He pretends to be a hero, realizes how it gets him into trouble and then "un-f***s" himself to save the day

[@bighand1530]

Rango is underrated

[@xstreamers166]

@@bighand1530 I completely agree, that movie is a masterpiece!

[@SirBlackReeds]

That movie did for the Spaghetti Western what Kung Fu Panda did for kung fu movies.

[@TomyDayos]

Thanks for the info. I will take a look at it.

[@AkuTenshiiZero]

I mean if you want a wholesome superhero film, it doesn't get much better than The Incredibles. Not many movies, let alone animated family films, are willing to tackle the story of a man's mid-life crisis and trying to juggle his devotion to his family alongside the reignited passions of his youth. Not to mention the end result being a stronger and more united family than before.

[@aredesuyo]

Except that the family is constantly yelling at each other. Like non-stop.

[@abehambino]

@@aredesuyo um, do you have a family? It’s pretty commonplace for there to be arguments. Think of all the relationships in a family, all the conflict that naturally exist. Now imagine that coupled with the frustration of living in the shadow, and then being thrust into a life and earth situation.

[@MisterWillow]

Unexpected rolemodel: Samwise in the Lord of the RIngs trilogy (both in books and films). He is loyal. I also liked "12 Angry Men" a lot for rolemodels (#8).

[@peterkee354]

He abandoned his family to follow frodos brown ring to rivendell at the end of the books...

[@DDGLJ]

“I can’t carry it for you, but I can carry you.”

[@talithakoum3922]

_Twelve Angry Men_ is a brilliant film and Juror #8 is indeed an outstanding role model. When I have kids, I can't wait to show them that movie.

[@jonathanwatson4484]

You watch 12 angry men I love that movie such a brilliant way of showing different characters from different backgrounds of urban life, it does a great job in presenting an story.

[@abehambino]

What I love about 12 angry men is that #8 isn’t the only one from which we can learn. As they one by one change their minds, we see a certain vulnerability and humbleness in most of the characters. I think that most overlooked message of that film is the importance of not holding on to a preconceived notion when faced with the truth. It’s at least as important as the message of bravery on the part of #8.

[@JeffreyRandall]

Dave, My wife has been a teacher for over 30 years. She and thousands of other teachers can tell you they are forced to indoctrant the kids. Also, to NOT teach them have to think for themselves. It is disgusting. But if they want to have a job, they have to do some of it. Entertainment is another horrible conditioner!

[@hsizzle4502]

so she has to ruin peoples childrens lives in order to get a pay check? im sorry but that is pathetic maybe your wife should you know grow a backbone and think of other people besides her paycheck for once it would be better overall for you guys and for her and her students. she doesnt have to go along with what they say thats just being pathetic and you know it. hopefully what im saying doesn fully go over your head. she needs to be a role model for her students instead of just indoctrinating them thats pathetic please grow up .

[@Old_Soul_]

@@hsizzle4502 It seems like you have never worked in an organization before. That's why you are delusional that things can be changed so easily.

[@tomharrington1453]

Entertainment is getting fixed. The market is correcting it. Disney is taking a pounding. Thanksgiving weekend is usually a big movie weekend. Hollywood just has the worst (non covid) Thanksgiving weekend in 30 years. The audience is tired of being preached at. Top Gun Maverick shows that the audience is dying for movies-- people still want to go to the movies. But they don't entertainment and not a lecture. Hollywood will respond. Money is still king and Hollywood does not like losing money.

[@beingsshepherd]

Such an ironic comment of moral cowardice 😄

[@TROY-MCCLURE-1991]

Not a film but the DCAU Justice League and Justice League Unlimited TV shows have been solid examples of showcasing good moral lessons for a younger audience that doesn't take the time to dumb down the viewer. And it's not exclusive to the younger crowd, it still holds up if you're an adult viewer. If you have the time to watch or even listen to it while working I highly reccomend it.

[@TheNeoVariable]

I will never forget the episode "For the man who has everything". Episodes like that makes me pity younger generations because they have shows like Teen Titans Go!

[@mosesdouglas4325]

Example that the new DCU should follow!

[@GreenEyedWolf404]

You beat me to it. I was literally just about to bring up the old DCAU. Man, those shows were amazing, among the best shows I’ve ever seen, and yet DC decided to abandon it for a bunch of edgelord nonsense. :(

[@mosesdouglas4325]

@@GreenEyedWolf404 hopefully DC moves past that. Getting Henry as Superman is a start i hope

[@garisonhayne668]

Batman. Instead of killing ACE (the psionic girl taking over Gotham) he decides...to sit on the swing and talk. She was dying and those last moments where everything to her. No super powers needed. Just the courage to empathize.

[@aaronwhite3298]

Christopher Reeve as Superman and Sylvester Stallone as Rocky Balboa are my personal favorite fictional heros, but they're real to me.

[@beingsshepherd]

Always makes me laugh when Reeve's Superman naively says to the prison warden at the end of the film something like: _"No need to thank me warden, we're on the same side."_ 😄

[@wattscemple]

Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory with Gene Wilder. Each of the children teaches a different lesson with...of course...Charlie taking the spotlight. The Wonka quote, "So shines a good deed in a weary world" always gets me. Love this movie!

[@Rosefire]

Excellent suggestion and an outstanding film. It has a few creepy moments for me when I saw it as a kid, but it made it clear to me why I should avoid vices such as greed and jealousy I saw the bad kids getting punished. It's equally rewarding to see Charlie's virtue rewarded. The first time I saw him pry open the chocolate bar and see that flash of a golden ticket, I was screaming for joy and jumping up and down on the couch with delight.

[@owenmaleski2203]

The Tim Burton version didn't quite have that same magical feel but it still had a lot of heart telling the importance of family over success, simple forgiveness and how people can still care about you even if you've been apart for a long time.

[@evildoughboy7773]

Modern "art" reflects the time we live in.

[@beingsshepherd]

The late fine art critic Brian Sewell labelled modern artworks _intellectual jokes._

[@fearthehoneybadger]

"With great power comes great responsibility" Peter Parker's uncle

[@Grasslander]

No, really? We've never heard that before.

[@fearthehoneybadger]

@@Grasslander "A smart-ass in every comment section". Me

[@sergedenovo2389]

The hardest thing about power is being able to keep it.

[@Mondoness]

With great power comes great power

[@Vaultboy101]

Uncle Ben gave his life to give us easy cook rice.

[@whitelightning5439]

The farscape series, John is the only character I've ever seen that shows remorse for lives he was forced to take.

[@Athonite]

Great show. I pray it is never "re-imagined".

[@atomicrage]

Aeryn's character arch is like the reverse of modern strong female characters. She goes from a hardened indoctrinated soldier to a mother willing to let herself be vulnerable. Events in the show impact and change the characters.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

It's more obscure, but I wouldn't be surprised. Nothing is sacred in Hollywood.

[@johngaltspeaking213]

Good call, I only recently found that show and loved it.

[@KevvoLightswift]

Farscape was wonderful. Too bad Ben Browder never made it to the big screen.

[@MariaIsabellaZNN]

They don't really make feel good movies anymore do they? The 90s may have been ridiculous but I will forever miss the positive "We can do anything!" attitude they had. Nowadays it's all so full of self hate..

[@rapidrotation]

I'm of the opinion that 9/11 really broke something fundamental in America, at least. Comparing the USA pre- and post-9/11 it's very clear that it was a turning point that greatly accelerated things into a downward spiral on a cultural and societal level. We're only now starting to see the effects of this in the last five or so years, but I think that 2001 was when the American Dream withered and died.

[@Rosefire]

90's had some weird (even tacky) shows but I admire the the guts to do some crazy things. I know "environmentalism" was popular even then, but good entertainment knew how to "recycle" or update previous stories, if not cut-and-paste different sagas together. For some examples: We had a new homage to Batman in the Animated Series, the film "Clueless" was based on Jane Austen's "Emma", "Ever After" was Cinderella set in the French Renaissance, and MM Power Rangers used Japanese and American footage.

[@dsmyify]

Yeah. How many comedies are being made now? Not many.

[@beingsshepherd]

Most of the '90s were a sexy, fast-paced excitement, I do dearly miss it at times but am still suffering the monstrous hangover.

[@haraldbredsdorff2699]

I would probably recommend the whole Justice League tv show. It had good morals and characters, and very few not good episodes. Why can't hollywood just make that any more?

[@TheLeadElite]

Because the wonderful people behind that series have "outdated" or "problematic" views. At least according to twitter weirdos. The people with money supporting modern entertainment want everything to be a political lecture rather than fun.

[@bighand1530]

I prefer would Justice League/Justice League Unlimited over the DCEU.

[@D3K018]

One of the most powerful storylines in the DCAU was from the episode(s) Starcrossed, because it brought a lot of additional topics like trust, redemption, etc., to the series, without getting political at all. I wish there was writing like that in Hollywood.

[@Stiffman1]

I know it's older and animated, but Treasure Planet has a good set of more complex characters (for a kids movie), both male and female. Obviously your main lead, but Silver is a great male role model who's also complicated. Doppler is nerdy and somewhat fearful, but learns to be more confident, often because Captain Amelia, builds him up. She herself is a commanding presence, but at the same time is approachable and demands respect but treats others respectfully too. And she has a small arc of learning to give a little bit of control up to Doppler. Others: Swat Katz, The Last Samurai, Mulan (animated only), Xmen: TAS, Stranger Things, Kung Fu Panda

[@TheSoonToBePurgedJackMeHoff55]

I loved Treasure Planet when I was a kid. Last samurai is a fantastic movie, too. I may have to re-watch it soon

[@Owen-sx4jj]

Amazing movie. All we have now is cgi that look the same

[@jneilson7568]

Happy to be seeing a lot of well-deserved love for Treasure Planet lately.

[@Thisisreallystupid]

I was going to mention Treasure Planet as well. A severely underrated movie, well ahead of its time.

[@indiajohnson]

Yes, both X-Men TAS & Kung Fu Panda are 👍🏾. Maybe I should check out Treasure Planet one day.

[@delvovic]

As a Kid I always had Anger Issues, and always meant to feel like a Monster because of it. However very Early in My Life I was Introduced to the Characters of Bruce Banner and Hulk. They thought me as a Kid that it's ok to be angry, and it's not the Anger itself that makes you a Monster but Control and Channeling that Anger Can Make you a Hero instead. Hulk Has been my inspiration and Has kept me Grounded for most of My Life.

[@Ottuln]

I love this, thank you for posting it! I didn't learn that lesson from the Hulk, but there were other characters that taught me the same thing. More recently I really found an affinity with Tiffany Aching from the Terry Pratchett novels. A little weird for a hulking middle-aged man, but the idea of broken people turning their weakness to strength is a powerful message.

[@erraticuk]

"75,000 whites in india is called 'colonialism' and indian opposition was called 'justified'. 7,000,000+ indians in Britain is called 'diversity' and British opposition to this is called 'racism'."

[@TheFtm22]

This may already be listed, but I shared The Princess Bride with my sons over the years and it was a wonderful fairy tale with a grandfather sharing the story with his grandson. It's got a lot of lessons within it while being thoroughly entertaining. The hero is a hero while also being human - it's just delightful to me.

[@Bvggerffpls]

There's a highly underrated Joseph Kosinski film called Only the Brave. The basic premise is a former drug addict/delinquent decides to become a fire fighter in order to provide for his illegitimate child. Running parallel to that is a cautionary tale about the dangers of replacing one addiction with another.

[@sdprazak]

Yes!!! Great film!!! 👍👍👍

[@jonascastejon5888]

Based on a true story. RIP all those firefighters.

[@cowcocky]

Three positive role models for men in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance. Ransom Stoddard who was prepared to die to stand up for what was right. Tom Doniphon who saved Stoddard’s life knowing he would lose his future with Hallie but sacrificing that because he loved her. And finally Pompey, who is often overlooked, who stayed by his friend Tom’s side as he fell to despair and alcoholism. A great movie with fantastic characters done by legendary actors.

[@ronbridges3933]

Completely agree

[@thesplendor8654]

My favorite John Wayne film!!

[@LastBankJob]

Great one.

[@DDGLJ]

To me, as a female, Leia will always be the best role model. She didn’t try to be a man, she didn’t have to be. At the same time, neither Luke nor Han could duplicate her strengths. Another one is Louise Banks, the mom/scientist from Arrival. She knew the heartache that was in store for her, but went ahead with creating her family anyway. Now that’s courage.

[@Emily1963eh]

Leia is vastly underrated as a character in starwars. She directs the escape in 4 from the death star and grows into a leader within the rebels. The scene in empire where she is directing the soldiers for the upcoming battle is awesome, every man there listens with intent, Leia does not belittle them at all, but has their full attention with everybody knowing what is at stake, working with everyone towards a common goal.

[@TheFtm22]

Princess Leia was the original bad ass. I loved every second of her and Carrie Fisher was just amazing in the role. Of course, I speak only of the OT - not that Mouse Droppings trash.

[@beingsshepherd]

🤔oO(Should role models be killers though?)

[@DDGLJ]

@@beingsshepherd They can be, as long as the philosophical and/or theological bases for a just war are fulfilled.

[@beingsshepherd]

@@DDGLJ But however justifiable, killing is surely always an ugly and regrettable business, far from the ideal; lest we all live in fear of those we care for being marked legitimate targets.

[@dances_with_incels]

I'm just sick of the super hero genre. I've seen better role models in video games than in movies since like the early 2000s

[@bighand1530]

I can get this.

[@JamesRDavenport]

The Count of Monte Cristo. It can be seen as fable for the journey of masculinity. We start out like Edmund Dantes, young boys full of hope, vitality, promise and naive. Then, the storm comes, a life altering event. It betrays all of that, robs us of innocence everything we thought we knew about life and ourselves. Then slowly but surely we get up from the jagged rocks, the prison of disillusion. We acquire new mentors, friends (some less than reputable) skills and scars. We learn to defend ourselves. We come back transformed, unrecognizable to those who knew us before. We have purpose. We have wisdom and with that shadows, fatal flaws. But it is only after that, when we turn around and suddenly realize there are younger men around us, that it all becomes clear. We in the blink of an eye become the old lions. Young boys are following in our footprints' wake. And so, we impart all we have learned, reacquiring through our proteges the hope we lost so long ago, rediscovering our faith. The circle completes.

[@Oatieo1337]

We need heroes!

[@Mattened]

'someone else other than me, needs to do stuff that's good!'

[@grandmufftwerkin9037]

I'll be your hero.

[@Project-Masculinity]

Socialist unicorns will be your hero And you MIGHT get free stuff ! 🤪

[@beingsshepherd]

_"No more heroes anymore."_ ~ The Stranglers

[@johndurham6172]

I know it's an odd choice but Shriek is a movie about a creature that wants to be left alone but has to join in a quest that really doesn't concern him. Of course he grows a little more with each adventure the gang encounters.

[@MegaSpideyman]

Do you mean Shrek?

[@johndurham6172]

@@MegaSpideyman yes, damn you autocorrect

[@bighand1530]

Shrek is one of my favorite animated movies out there

[@RompYa]

Shrek is the ultimate portrayal of a family orientated man. Who eventually becomes tiresome of it and realises its all that matters. Something Hollywood is lacking now as they want to butcher the nuclear family and have overpowered female characters, who tend do show lesbian characteristics overpower men.

[@sh-hg4eg]

@@MegaSpideyman No, he meant Shriek; the lovable Bollywood tale of a yellow ogre and his talking cow sidekick.

[@MegaKnight2012]

The animated Mulan. She's not the strongest, but her willpower and empathy drive her to greater heights than even she could've imagined. It was fun during childhood and moreso after serving in the military. Then there's Kung Fu Panda 1&2. A character who's painfully aware of his shortcomings but is desperate to better himself, enjoying becoming a hero, who still keeps connected with his dad, staying attached to his humble origins. Then there's Avatar The Last Airbender show. It has great characters, fun action, and deep moral dilemmas that many adult shows can't handle. Because it's a kids show, people from all ages can enjoy learning from it.

[@TonberryQueen]

As far as a movie with a great message, I'd have to recommend my most favorite movie ever: Spirited Away. Chihiro starts off as a sullen, sulking whining brat unhappy about having to move and go to a new school. But when her parents are turned into pigs and she and her family are in a new world at the mercy of a greedy bath house owning sorceress, she has to buck up, find her inner strength, and save herself and her parents and get them home. She works hard, faces some crazy dangerous situations, and grows up and grows a spine real quick. By the end, she's a courageous little girl ready to face anything. She even earns the admiration and respect of everyone around her, including those who didn't really like her at first. Chihiro to me is a quintessential example of inner transformation for the better, and I have yet to see it done in a better way in any form of media.

[@Rosefire]

Great choice! "Spirited Away" is the crown jewel in the Miyazaki films (for me) and Chihiro's story reminds me of Grimm Faire Tales where young girls are torn from their homes, but must use their pluck and wit to manage in dangerous magical places. They emerge wiser and more courageous for their quests.

[@Theggman83]

Thor had PTSD. I dunno, it resonated with me. Being a veteran myself.. I've seen soldiers deal with their demons in really bad ways. Getting big, drinking, and being emotional are definitely part of that world. Thor failed to "go for the head", everyone that died did so because he failed... That's not the kind of failure you walk away from and shake off. It leaves a mark.

[@gregorde]

That’s fair in endgame. But not after.

[@Bvggerffpls]

I actually didn't mind that they turned Thor into a despondent, overweight, alcoholic emotional wreck who whiles away the days mindlessly consuming cheap entertainment. If anything, it hit quite close to home and reminded me of a brief yet dark period in my life. It's a shame they had to cheapen it by turning it into one big joke.

[@singrdave]

Survivor guilt. I've seen it too, I'm an 4x Afghanistan veteran myself (only one injury)

[@Theggman83]

@@ibiza1290 you can't deal with an issue like PTSD by pretending that it doesn't exist, or that it can't affect anyone, even Thor. Calling it "therapeutic" might be a bit of a stretch, but normalizing PTSD is necessary and it should be apart of pop culture, in all of its "glory".

[@Theggman83]

@@gregorde true, I can't make excuses for love and thunder.

[@Daeduluus]

Rocky Balboa the speech he gives to his son outside his restaurant is so empowering

[@mosesdouglas4325]

Yep good example!

[@trip189n]

Alot of kids today need to hear that speech and take it to heart.

[@Napier88]

Dragonball Z The Cell Saga. Goku's speech to his son still brings tears to my eyes. He see's so much potential in him. And Gohan is terrified, Cell beats the hell out of everyone. And Gohan has to completly snap to realize his potential. He kills Cell with one...arm. Its a boy becoming a man, after living in his Dads shadow for so long while under an overbearing mother. Its an inspirational story for just about anyone.

[@aidanlynn]

Makes you realise just how good the Christopher Reeve Superman character was.

[@steprockmedia]

Positive films: The Martian (determination, self reliance) Apollo 13 (history, science, teamwork) Run Silent, Run Deep (overcoming past failures)

[@mentally_illest_radio]

Hey dave, mrs brigsby from the secret of nimh is not only a positive role model for young girls but was also a role mode for me as a young boy for her courage and heart and conviction to do the right thing and help the rats of nimh ascent the need of leeching off of humans any longer even though she had her own problems of trying to provide for her kids as a widowed mother. also masterpiece of visual storytelling

[@notsure4648]

Yes rats of nimh is top shelf.

[@willowfalls7528]

The Rocky movies! A positive message for sure, I think. Just the first one to come to mind, is all.

[@Bvggerffpls]

"Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place, and I don't care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward; how much you can take and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done!"

[@elrickthebrave]

I would recommend Gran Torino. Many good arcs in that story

[@greenarrow219]

That is a fantastic story

[@Rosefire]

Amen. "Gran Tornio" is awesome. "Get off my lawn!!"

[@Anthony-bf9tx]

The Princess Bride, (particularly the grandfather), Jaws, The Crow, Spirited Away, Casablanca, Key Largo, Beverly Hills Cop, Copland, Love Actually, James Bond before Daniel Craig, Superman (Reeves' versions) Jojo Rabbit, Count of Monte Cristo, The Mask of Zorro and as it's nearly Christmas, It's a Wonderful Life. All different types of strong and interesting role models and all equally inspiring.

[@debrafranklin8285]

Oh my goodness, someone else has seen and appreciated Copland! One of Stallone's best roles, I think. But speaking of Christmas films, I always recommend the original We're No Angels with Humphrey Bogart, Peter Ustinov, Aldo Ray and Basil Rathbone. It's a comedy as well as a comedy of manners and all the characters are well drawn, from the inept shopkeeper to his strong - but not domineering wife - to the trio of criminals who descend upon them on Christmas Eve.

[@beingsshepherd]

James Bond??? LOL Vain, shallow, womanising thug for the regime.

[@jorhanson8583]

George Bailey from "It's A Wonderful Life" is a good role model. Idealistic, slightly arrogant, beaten down to the point of despair. Redeemed by the fact that at his core, he was a good person.

[@Rosefire]

Excellent choice. One of the best films of all time, a tribute to the decency of the individual and the value we each have in our life's choices.

[@DDGLJ]

We watch it every Christmas while decorating the tree. So our kids saw it every year. Also, The Muppets Christmas Carol. Talk about struggle and redemption!

[@Rosefire]

@@DDGLJ OMG, I looove the Muppet Christmas Carol. It does have those dark sinister moments in it, but also heart and beauty with all of the classic charm you anticipate in the Muppets.

[@DDGLJ]

@@Rosefire My kids still cringe when the doorbell morphs into a Marley, and they are 24, 28 and 30. We can’t decorate the tree without it playing. Soon, they’ll have to get their own copies and I’m sure they will!

[@TitaniumSeraph]

TMNT 1990. Great themes about Fathers and Sons. Splinter who loves vs Shredder who uses. Raph likes to fight, but is also shown to be caring and sensitive. Leo and Raph have a fight like they hate each other…but later Leo is beside himself when Raph gets hurt. The brothers all love each other and lean on each other for support. Even Casey Jones is a good example. He’s rough around the edges, but it’s clear he knows good from bad. Lots of different personalities who are still on the side of right.✨

[@indiajohnson]

One of my favorite movies 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

[@mrnobody4125]

Little House on the Prarie. I know, it seems like a lame pick. But every episode of that show had more effort put into the writing than modern movies get. They're tight, complex, varied, and interesting. Lots of tension, humor, and drama. Those characters face and overcome more real problems in one episode than Carol Danvers ever did. Mary Ingalls has twice the guts she does. Laura was always gutsy, Mary had to overcome her natural habits to aquire them. And I think people ubdersell Luke Skywalker. He's beloved for a reason. He was a normal kid who went through a lot and became something special. Not a Jedi, not a superhero, a man of courage and conviction. You can't get that from a space cube or a wizard or a radioactive bite. This is a holiday pick, but Arthur Christmas isn't a bad example of heroism of many different types by three generations of leaders. One who struggles with being left behind, another who struggles with letting go and stepping aside, another who just wants to do the job but finds everything set against him, another who wants to do the job but for all the wrong reasons. They all have to change and grow and step up or step down or step aside, they all have to lead, they all have to sacrifice, they all have to overcome despair and their own fears.

[@TomPlantagenet]

I agree with you about Little House on the Prairie. A lot of strong characters who want to do the right thing. Even Nellie Olsen did a face turn when she grew up. My seven year old loves that show-I wish it were streamable

[@samcochran8203]

Wait, there was a show? WHY AM I ONLY LEARNING THIS NOW?

[@TomPlantagenet]

@@samcochran8203 hahaha-excellent comment!

[@samcochran8203]

@@TomPlantagenet but like seriously, a little house on the prairie TV show was all I wanted when I was little and going through the books at lightning speed, I feel kinda robbed by only learning about it now Oh well, guess I lmma just have to binge it this holiday season

[@samcochran8203]

@@TomPlantagenet also, please tell me I can find it to rent somewhere

[@raminagrobis6112]

I loved this video beyond what words could express. You crystalized the crux of the messages, good or bad, from what used to be positive, and what replaced the more meaningful content we had fortunately in the recent past. Your acuity is remarkable. You expressed eloquently what young movie viewers need the most. I'm impressed and I'm thankful!

[@cypherdastro8105]

Without a doubt I'd recommend Treasure Planet. The main character Jim is incredibly relatable and has to learn some tough lessons over the course of the film to grow and come into his own.

[@saliuarts]

The original Spiderman trilogy would be my recommendation. It taught me alot about actions and consequences and i hope to watch it with my children someday

[@Ironchick22]

As a girl growing up in the 80s and 90s I always loved Ellen Ripley, Sarah Conner and, hear me out, GI Jane. Ellen and Jane were willing participants in a male industry but instead of complaining, they worked for it. They busted ass and didn't want special treatment. If they couldn't cut it they knew they didn't deserve it. They were beaten down but rose to the challenge to overcome. Both were flawed characters that had some growing up to do and even though they didn't fully achieve it they were on the right track. Sarah Conner was thrust into a situation she didn't ask for but again did her best to survive. None of these ladies thought they were better than men but knew that they were different and had their different strengths and mostly partnered with men to bring out the best in each other as men and women are meant to. There are a few critiques for Jane such as she does ring the bell out of a temper tantrum and forces her way back in which really pisses me off, and no she isn't able to carry a full-grown man out of combat who is injured but she also didn't give up or leave him behind. This is not to say women are my top choice for combat roles but she did everything in her physical ability and mental skill to archive the same scores as the men and also prove herself to her team and Sergent. When I think of positive roles models for women/girls these are the top three that come to mind. I am a mom of sons and there are so few good role models in cinema these days that I am thankful for their father, grandfather's and uncles that show everyday what a strong, good and hardworking man is. Oh and one more Melanie Griffith character in working girl. She worked for the deal and at the end had start at the bottom and work back up but wanted to do it, she earned on merit and wanted to keep earning it instead of having it handled to her just because she was a women, unlike how today's movies career women are portrayed.

[@cobracommander4774]

The role model that always inspired me as a child was Captain America. He demonstrated the values of self sacrifice, integrity, loyalty, patriotism, and doing what's right even when it goes against the world's standards of right and wrong. I love his commitment to fighting for freedom when the rest of the world is willing to give up freedom for security in the second and third movies. He's such an aspirational character who we can all strive to be like; he represents all that is good and right and wholesome, and the best stories about him are the ones that contrast those values with those of the world around him.

[@hatuletoh]

"Major League." A great film that isn't just hilarious, but also has a wonderful message about how working together and putting the team/group ahead of ourselves allows us to become greater than the sum of our parts. And as I can attest from experience, the film also perfectly captures the dynamics of a baseball team that's figured out how to get along, make the most of each member's talents, a win ball games. It's what I would call an "authentic baseball movie" (like "Bull Durham," which is also great) that you don't have to be a baseball fan to enjoy.

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

Good movie

[@ebaugh7320]

I should check that out

[@hatuletoh]

@@ebaugh7320 You most definitely should. But skip the sequel.

[@silvermknight]

Guts from Berserk is a FANTASTIC role model. He teaches us that no matter life throws at you just stand up and keep going. That's what it is to be a man.

[@soktherat777]

One of the things that's been refreshing about reading the Iconic Comics collection is that the authors behind their lineup actually have good role models. In Kamen America the main character learns to reconcile with those she disliked or saw as enemies. Soulfinder tackles themes of faith in your religion and trauma. Black Hops deals with themes of family and loss. They've been very good reads and I recommend them to anyone who is interested in finding comics that don't beat you over the head with the author's political beliefs.

[@MexxProtect]

As a young boy I was always in awe of trinity in the matrix, such a cool character, competent and heroic in the face of overwhelming odds despite her fragile nature.

[@ninjanibba4259]

She had no real character tho, ironically the worst Matrix movie gave her more of a character...the 1st half anyway Matrix Regurgitations

[@curtiscj3087]

@@ninjanibba4259 lies she was awesome in all the movies

[@ninjanibba4259]

@@curtiscj3087 I never said she wasn't, I said she never had much of a character, her Hope's, passions and dreams were all in 4 not the others, same with Neo after 1

[@curtiscj3087]

@@ninjanibba4259 I don’t think so she had character development. To me she carried the Movie . The very first opening scene was trinity I fell in love

[@devansmith691]

Gattaca. The scene at the beach contains some of the most inspirational philosophy in film

[@sergedenovo2389]

I love that movie but can't remember that particular scene.

[@MVPMVE]

That whole movie is an excellent message: you are not limited by your circumstances, only yourself. Even being born "defective" as far as society is concerned isn't enough to stop you from achieving your dreams if you put in the work. In these days of active victimhood, this theme is practically a revolutionary concept.

[@jamesstewart9056]

Deku from My hero acedemia, although he's given his powers, its WHY he was chosen. His childhood friend is about to be destroyed by a villain and everyone else just stands there and watched including other heroes yet Deku runs to save his friend even without having any powers in a world where most people are born with a power. That kind of bravery along with his many underdog moments throughout the series makes it a good pick imo.

[@macdansav1546]

I'm not a big Mel Gibson fan, but I do like the movie Signs. There he plays a father coping with tragedy and not without flaws, trying to keep his family together. He reacts with love and humour to the unfolding situation and, I think, is a great role model of sorts. Okay, the alien invasion part is beyond the day to day, but I do like his character. :)

[@damionkeeling3103]

Full of plot holes, one was even mocked on a Stargate SG-1 episode but a great movie nonetheless.

[@dannypalin9583]

I still remember back in 2019 that Larson was boasting about how the Avengers needed Captain Marvel to annihilate Thanos. In fact, Carol was going to singlehandedly defeat Thanos. Endgame came along and she watches Thor chop off Thanos's head, gets a haircut, says "I gotta go help other planets, BYYYYYYEE!!", shoehorns a cringeworthy "Here Come the Girls" music video into the finale and gets punched out of the fight. Hawkeye made a bigger contribution to the movie.

[@EverettBurger]

Scott and Clint, the two fathers, both sided with Steve in that the Sokovia Accords were a bad idea. The two parents believed in freedom over security. I found that telling.

[@indiajohnson]

Exactly 👌🏾

[@distance7721]

School of Rock's always been one of my favorite movies. Sure, it's a story about a scoundrel who impersonates his best friend in order to steal a job from him, but he eventually learns how good being a role model for children is, and he eventually turns his life around by opening his own music school. Simpler times: Jack Black's actions in the movie come across as MUCH creepier in modern times, especially given how exploitative modern schools are, but I still really like the film In a weird way, Jack Black's character also serves as a representation of a lost tradition: the musician from an older genre that represents freedom and personal expression, but which has been subverted by commercial interest and consumerism. He teaches the children the old ways to help them break out of their conformist mindset and truly express themselves

[@DrCrypt13]

For me it was star wars the character of Luke Skywalker. Even saw the good in his dad and not only fought the temptation of corruption for himself, but lent strength and love to empower redemption and possitive change in others. Which is why the new version of Luke is a perverted reflection of the orriginal.

[@beingsshepherd]

Wasn't Vader the greater hero? Sacrificed literally everything for the love of his son.

[@paulnicholson5997]

Captain America has a great character arch. He's even chosen over the more physically stronger soldiers because he's a good man.

[@ukmediawarrior]

The three movies you use to highlight the lack of the hero's progress in modern movies have something else in common. At the end our hero's are all beaten down by their enemy to the point they are either dead or nearly so: 1: Tony Stark has his armor torn from him becoming totally vulnerable to Iron Monger and tells Pepper to blow up the arc reactor with him on top of it to kill Obadiah Stane committing what should have been suicide. 2: Thor sacrifices himself to safe his friends and earth from Loki's Destroyer and its only Odin's power to bring him back that keeps him alive. 3: Peter Parker fights and is basically defeated by the Green Goblin. Smashed, pummelled, his suit torn, his webcasters useless and his body worn down. Reaching deep inside he finds the strength for one more superhuman leap of faith which destroys his nemesis. But I don't recall Carol Danvers going through any of that in Captain Marvel. Now I should confess I have only ever seen that movie once, all I could stomach, so I might be wrong.

[@tarnishedknight9909]

The Marines in Aliens strike me as a good example as well, they work well as a team together, have good socail skills and even if a couple (Hudsun being a good example) panic and lose thier shit, they pull themselfs together after some help

[@davidlacoste]

I really loved the friendship between Vasquez and Drake.

[@beingsshepherd]

Hmm well, you have to offset that with their gung-ho genocide 🤔 We also mustn't overlook that in one crucial scene they'd decided to summarily execute Burke.

[@brium6627]

The Last Airbender has a lot of inspirational stories and characters that you see through the series. Especially of note is Uncle Iroh who acts as a replacement father figure to the initial antagonist turned hero, who is also his nephew, Zuko and shows him what the meaning of being a good person is not through constant legalistic judgement, but through the care and guidance he gives him. From teaching him to let go of the desire to bring honour to his father through dishonourable means to embracing him even after he had betrayed him. A real example of the prodigal son. On another note of a story which I would categorize as more an inspirational story for adults as opposed to the young, The Lives of Others, a subtle film about the actions of master investigator of a secret police group in Germany before the collapse of the Berlin wall. It shows the untainted actions of a man who finds the good in himself by observing, as the title suggests, the lives of others.

[@patrickmerlin2001]

It's a bit more obscure but I love Fate/stay night specifically the Unlimited Blade Works story route. The main character Shirou is a hyper idealistic wannabe hero who is forced to come to terms with the reality of the world he lives in where he can't save everyone. In the end he decides he'll maintain his idealism and just save as many people as he can. It's a great story about tempering one's beliefs and admitting powerlessness.

[@MegaKnight2012]

I love that show and keep rewatching. Both he and Rin have the same core motivations at the beginning and end but have both matured as people.

[@proinsiascassidy255]

OT Luke Skywalker. Aragorn. Ripley in the first two Alien films. Sarah Connor in the first two Terminator films. All of those characters go through challenges and changes that make them better people, leading to a positive message in the end.

[@BingBong67489]

It's funny how differently they approach Carol and Bucky in regard to their brainwashing. Bucky is wrought with remorse and the viewer is constantly reminded of the things he did when he was brainwashed. Yet Carol, despite having more agency than Bucky did, is simply like "I don't have anything to prove". Imagine Superman at the end of Superman the Animated Series, if he had been like "I don't have anything to prove, it's Darkseid's fault". That would be so tone deaf. You have this godlike power, and you need to prove to people that they shouldn't be terrified of you. That's what you need to prove.

[@landonmathews6111]

Just watched The Shadow for the first time last week. It’s a solid movie, and it’s a great example of a flawed man working to make up for past mistakes

[@indiajohnson]

Imo, chef's kiss. Reminds me a little of Xena.

[@Cerebrum123]

Out of more recent movies I've seen Despicable Me, Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs, and How to Train Your Dragon. They all have their own struggles to overcome, and their own lessons to learn. Gru learns what really matters to him with his family, Flint learns that doing stuff to be popular can be disastrous, and Hiccup learns to look past appearances as well as how to train the dragons.

[@Ottuln]

How to Train Your Dragon: Race to the Edge is absolutely fantastic series if you haven't seen it. My kids love it and the story is really good, at least up until the last season where they tried to do a huge defy expectations moment.

[@Cerebrum123]

@@Ottuln I'll have to check it out.

[@MichaelRiftwalker]

I grew up with no dad & a sexually promiscuous mother so I never had a strong male role model. As a child I always idolised Optimus Prime, I know he’s not human but I often don’t feel human anyway so 🤷‍♂️🤙🏻

[@mrmicro22]

There is great power in fictional role models. I did the same and often counsel kids to find someone to look up to from history or fiction until someone real comes along. I did not find my best mentor until I was 45 when my mother re-married. Don't give up.

[@lumeronswift]

One advantage is that we still have all of the older stories and films we grew up with, and many are timeless.

[@BlueMSX.]

Marty McFly from Back to the Future

[@dekaritheprofessor2631]

This is why I'm truly happy to have grown up in the early 2000s and got to watch so much good to great Superhero content from BTAS & The 90's Spider-Man to the Amazing Raimi Spider-Man Trilogy 🥰🥰 Superheroes have inspired me so and im happy that there are creators that truly Understand what makes them work🥰🥰

[@PrivateIvan]

This is not a sarcastic comment: I genuinely think that Blood (the dog) from A Boy and His Dog (1976) is a great role model. He's smart and instructive, often brutally honest, remains hopeful, he's wary, and he's always helpful, even with the boy's, uh, *baser* needs. He's the perfect father-figure for life in that post-atomic hellhole; he NEVER sugarcoats things, but refuses to sink to an "animalistic" existence. Keep up the great work!

[@dsmyify]

Bolt is the same. Loyalty and bravery.

[@shadowleon659]

Most heroes nowadays fall into the Designated Hero category or have become jokes of their former selves.

[@Astolfo2001]

Hello I know you from letterboxd and I didn't know you had a KZbin channel until now. It really says something when there are even direct to video Barbie movies that have a better understanding of storytelling than the vast majority of Hollywood these days. No joke. In fact, one of my absolute favorite movies of all time is a direct to video Barbie movie: Barbie: Princess Charm School (2011).

[@buntado6]

Videogames are where it's at, Kratos is now a better role model than most movie figures. Imagine that.

[@Diego_BR]

Senna (2010) "When you are fitted in a racing car and you race to win, second or third place is not enough." 🤘😎🏆

[@geminisoku]

Tron Legacy is one of my favs, love that story, it actually got me a little teary eyed towards the end. 300 also comes to mind, when i saw it in theatres, some of the audience were straight up screaming YESSS!! I think its safe to say it was a very inspiring film to alot of people.

[@middleeasternforhire8985]

Was an insult to persians ( Iranians ) though

[@jameslauder3984]

Probably the most excellent video you’ve ever made. Well done.

[@rommelbengali]

Without a doubt!

[@chasehedges6775]

Yep.

[@youtubeuser6067]

Christian Bale's character in EQUILIBRIUM. Also, it suggests a good way to deal with corporate drug dealers.

[@RobinTimDrake]

Atticus Finch in To Kill a Mockingbird. Everyone and everything was against him, but he strived to do the right thing no matter what. EDIT- He is also Superman's hero in the comics.

[@C-rations2394]

Beautiful work, Dave. Thanks for this.

[@kevinmccabe7263]

As far movies with heart and good morals, I would actually say that the newest Spiderman (No Way Home) had a great message! No matter what version of Peter Parker it was, he always saw the good in others and always risked his life to save them!

[@jeffjones7108]

The Iron Giant. A lot of similarities with the Captain Marvel plot but with a far better ending and message. When the Giant says "Superman" happily as he flies into the missile, sacrificing himself to save the town and his loved ones, I still get tears in my eyes. And he became that hero despite having been designed for the opposite purpose.

[@termagant425]

The Matrix. Not really a superhero movie in the classical sense, but its one of those films where every single main character grows in one way or another.

[@paulgale7190]

I love Christopher reeves as superman. His outfit had good colours which were bright blue, red and yellow. He was tall and strong. He was nice and smiled a lot. He always meant to do good and intelligently thought of a way to solve problems with minimal harm like He-man 80's.

[@AlexAppleby]

I actually think the greatest role model for me was Tyrion Lannister from Game of Thrones. He had all the odds stacked against him, hatred from his people, his family, especially his father, but through his sheer wit and will he not only survives in Westeros but thrives. Tyrion is the sort of man I strive to be and I think he is a great role model for young men everywhere.

[@Bigflorent]

I grew up with 1995 Merlin, Dragonheart, Lotr, Star trek from tng to Enterprise, even original starwars (didn't like them that much but surely better than today), the scene in the third lotr where all in minas tirith bows to the hobbits always makes me cry, seeing the enterprise nx01 leaving the spacedock always gives me hope and seeing archer changing so much from second to third to fourth season is spectacular, he was a great rolemodel to me, as much as Picard, Sam Neil's Merlin in 1995 was a great rolemodel for a man, that needs to overcome his past riddled of people that manipulate him, was a role model for fighting for his life and his family, to the end. Such a great film and so underrated.

[@sukamadik5983]

If they ever make an adaptation of your life they'll definitely race swap you.

[@sh-hg4eg]

Daisy Cullen; non-binary, quadriplegic, woman of color.

[@davidlacoste]

Not race(swapping a red-haired would be weird at this point.

[@jeremylister89]

I particularly despise a so-called adult saying to teenagers 'you can be ANYTHING you want to be'. Anything? Wow what a lie. With good advice, hard work, ambition and focus you should succeed, improve and have a good life. But there are limits. People are not born with equal circumstances or gifts. You can't have a world of 8 billion millionaires.

[@JohnSmith-sy6zm]

Batman is not a Good Role Model! He has Failed to Lower the Crime Level in Gotham!!

[@flamethrower82]

Not only that, but he commits many crimes himself. He's no better than the bad guys; I actually think Joker is the only sane one in Gotham City. That whole town is obviously modeled after NYC - a mix of dumbasses who vote for bad people because they secretly hate themselves, idiot criminals, arrogant rich people, and "heroes" that turn out to be villains themselves. Batman is actually the prime example of a good two shoes with a bone to pick and no role models in his life once his parents are killed.

[@vitrash3464]

I think Avatar: the last Airbender is still a good show for kids and adolescents, it is tells the story about how a young group of people set aside their differences for an important and huge goal, while becoming life long friends in the process, and shows that there is hope despite hard circumstances. And as a girl growing up Toph was my role model if anyone is familiar, she was blind and small, but she never had a victim mentality about it, she was cleaver and used her “weaknesses” as her strengths, and also had a good sense of humor!

[@AGdesigns878]

I never had a father, my father left out on my but I had a good father figure in my life, my grandfather. He was a good man who was a father himself from the 60 and I was so grateful that I did have an ideal father figure to look up to and showed me good and valuable life lessons, even if I did not understand them at the time like not listening to pc culture.

[@sh-hg4eg]

It's a shame about no father but your grandfather sounds like he really stepped up to the mark. It's also good that you appreciate it. Have a good day.

[@AGdesigns878]

thank you and yes, yes he was a good man indeed

[@nyboy76]

"Secondhand Lions" is a classic with good establishing spry and characters, with great moral teaching moments.

[@adamdean5881]

I forgot about this movie. More people should see it. Especially young men

[@sariahd5083]

This is absolutely a beautiful movie.

[@WasatchWind]

My favorite female character in fiction, and possibly just hero in general, is Vin from the Mistborn series. She is a fantastic character, showing a girl in a broken world with an abusive upbringing, overcoming it, and struggling with if she can trust people again. She faces challenges unique to her world, and unique to women, but I felt incredibly engaged by her story. There are whispers that a film or some kind of adaptation of Mistborn could be coming, and if so, it could be a great, refreshing injection of good writing into Hollywood. If done right, I have no doubt it will be a fantastic story that many new fans will love.

[@dallasburns677]

Jack Burton in Big Trouble in Little China. His faults are laid bare throughout the whole film. But his sense of courage and loyalty made him a hero.