Modernizing With Airbus: The Qantas Fleet In 2024

[@LongHaulbySimpleFlying]

CORRECTION at 6:49 - Qantas ordered 4 787-9s and 8 787-10s, a total of 12 Boeing 787s; the text incorrectly states 12 787-9s.

[@invasion9786]

Also, at 4:49, you said the a321xlrs will have 197 seats but showed 20 seats in business and 157 in economy, which would add up to 177

[@ma77mc]

Doesn't matter, they should have ordered an Airbus instead, gone all in on Airbus, Boeing is too risky these days.

[@busofmauritius8306]

Why not include Jetstar Australia, it is 100% owned by QANTAS Group

[@PeterFruits-hm8rc]

@@LongHaulbySimpleFlying bring back the 737-400 for QantasLink

[@kuckoo9036]

Boeing has really blown it. Like Qantas, nearly all international carriers that are using legacy 737s are replacing them with Airbus A220 and A320 family of aircraft. The only exceptions seem to be airlines with fleets consisting entirely - or almost entirely - of Boeing models (Southwest, Ryanair, etc).

[@Tina-d8f]

It's a beautiful sight to behold when their A380 is coming into land at Heathrow.

[@Mary-kt3vr]

I am excited about the new fleet. And I cant wait to go glying with my national carrier.

[@EuropeanRailfan-AM]

Soon the only Boeings of many airlines will be 787s (and maybe 777Xs, depending on whether EIS will be 2026 or not)

[@abdu-razakjibrinjawando4292]

Airbus is the way to go

[@JDFloyd]

I have had significant international long-haul travel, and I am looking forward to taking a Qantas Project Sunrise flight.

[@tomkleiner8628]

Absolutely love this video. Great to see our national carrier featured! Very excited for the fleet renewal. Qantas has come a long way from the dark days of Mid 2022. And it’s all very exciting for the future! Keen to see the next update in 2026 once the A350’s are flying!

[@Holland1994D]

KLM, Qantas are both going full Airbus (a little Embraer). Boeing really Fked up

[@filledwithvariousknowledge2747]

Qantas ordered more 787’s not that long ago so Boeing isn’t shut out

[@LiamCowie-q8y]

Im going on an A380 later this week!

[@samuelese22]

I just had a return flight to Dubai with Emirates on A380. Just amazing!

[@Mary-kt3vr]

Lucky you 😊

[@GeorgeTH281]

4:54 the math aint mathing, 20+157=177

[@TheDolphinator8]

He said 20 Business Seats and 177 Economy Seats which is a total of 197 seats

[@RexyH267]

I would hope that the new aircraft will include an improvement in the service & overall pride in the company, which is sorely lacking at the moment.

[@benwilson6145]

Time to replace all cabin staff and all management

[@k9killer221]

Yes, service is appalling.

[@Lancair70]

@@benwilson6145 I heard Qantas dont actually employ cabin staff anymore. The staff come from other companies setup to train and supply aircrew to Qantas. Sub contractors. Personally it sucks because the Qantas Spirit isnt there. I recently flew to UK on Qantas and the service was crap. Food in plastic containers served to you in a bag! Wooden cutlery. One step up from flying on a LCC. Came back codeshare Emirates. WOW, thats how international airlines should be.

[@benwilson6145]

@@Lancair70 Don't do it again

[@magical_catgirl]

😅Launceston has been revealed as having one of the top 5 most challenging place names to pronounce in the country. Placing at number four behind Cairns, Prahran and Melbourne, Tasmania’s second biggest city was found to often be mispronounced as Lawn-ses-tun, Lawn-ston or Lawn-chess-ton and not the correct Lonn-ses-tun.🤣

[@cartoonimaker]

Aand now im disappointed in myself, an Australian, for thinking it was lawns-ton...

[@Rasscasse]

I don’t get how Melbourne and Cairns are difficult to pronounce.

[@Dave_Sisson]

@@Rasscasse Some overseas people incorrectly pronounce them Mel-Born and Carns. Others even say Bris-Bain.

[@PeterFruits-hm8rc]

WRONG .......... its , lonn.ces.ten

[@theharper1]

@@PeterFruits-hm8rc I'll have to listen to the locals more carefully next time I visit, but I've only heard people say "lon-cess-tun". Frankly the last vowel is swallowed and it's "tn".

[@Emperorvalse]

Yes to the aircraft types but a big no for the decision to go BYOD instead of installing the screens in the seats. I travel light so no tablet and I really think swapping a bigger screen in a seat for the small screen of my phone is not a step ahead.

[@anweshkar]

I would like to disagree on the BYOD aspect. Your phone/ tablet screen will always be invariably superior to the crapy IFE screens, which will stop working at times in the flight. Also, you can use your very good noise canceling headphones/earphones rather than using the cheap ones provided by the airline. Overall, it's a big plus, even if it means you are not traveling that light. What say...

[@Emperorvalse]

@@anweshkar Superior in resolution? Maybe but not size of screen. The screens offered on the Airbus A32S have very good resolution, stability etc over the old 737 offering that QF has so your points about current maybe correct but wrong against the new IFE systems. I agree regarding headphones but use my own noise cancelling one that fold up. These are connected by wire but the new IFE can be connected via Bluetooth too. QF decision is based solely on cost. Cost to install, maintain and save on weight. It is not about a better customer experience.

[@paulsz6194]

@@anweshkarwhat if their streaming service crashes? At the moment with backseat screens, they are all wired, so if there is a fault with one, the others aren’t affected. Business class seats will still contain seat back screens?

[@ollie2074]

the very least they could do is offer iPads, even if its just on the longer flights.

[@Dudedoesstuffright]

I'll miss the Qantas IFE screens with the 737 is phased out

[@Plen3716]

I reckon the international spec a321xlr will have them though domestic won't. I can forgive though because Qantas free domestic wifi is insanely good.

[@waynej747]

⁠@@Plen3716nope, QF have already revealed what the interior is going to look like and none of them will have in seat IFE.

[@EamonMYT]

@@waynej747 The QF spec revealed was the initial spec which will be primarily domestic ops when it gets delivered in April 2025. Qantas has said in interviews that they are looking at potentially doing an International Spec with Lieflat Business Class Seats. Whether they will have IFE built in? It may be like the earlier A330-200's where Business seats have Inseat IFE but it's BYOD in Economy.

[@Plen3716]

@EamonMYT exactly, they’ll probs do an international spec with lie flat and ife, the ones they have revealed are domestic spec

[@Plen3716]

@@waynej747 Nuh uh read the Executive Traveller article. They are considering lie flat options for future deliveries. And of course lie flats would have ife

[@shreddemakeyRBX]

Am very happy good job Qantas and I hope the government does not make them sell Jetstar. Good job Qantas Virgin and Rex

[@Plen3716]

Vanessa really seems to be turning Qantas around and even Alan Joyce (shock horror) has made he perfect fleet decisions. I can't wait for the Qantas a350 their cabins look STUNNING!

[@magical_catgirl]

Besides that huge amount of 787 orders he cancelled, which would have replaced the A330s and grown the airline by now if he hadn't. Qantas had up to 115 787s on order (a mix of firm orders, options and rights). Besides the 11 788s for Jetstar and the 14 789s for Qantas, they were all cancelled in 2008-2012.

[@Plen3716]

I never knew about that, but yes. Though apart from money saving I think they did it because they weren’t entirely sure if they wanted to replace the a330 with it. Also I don’t think Qantas needs 115 787s 😅

[@magical_catgirl]

@@Plen3716 The original order (in 2005) was for 65 aircraft with another 50 options. They were first planned to replace the 767s. The orders started getting cancelled during the global financial crises and the following airline cash problems. 10 of the Jetstar 788s were the last of the original firm order that weren't cancelled, the 11th 788 and the Qantas 789s came from the options.

[@theharper1]

@@magical_catgirl in his defense, the production issues with 787 aircraft built outside Seattle and the pandemic meant that a lot of airlines had to put fleet updates on hold.

[@magical_catgirl]

@@theharper1 The pandemic had nothing to do with the Qantas 787 order changes. They happened long before the pandemic. As far as Qantas orders go, the only thing the pandemic did was delay the delivery of 3 787s and push back confirming the order for the A350s and the newer 787-9/10 order. The 787 production delay (eg the battery and wiring issues which delayed the first 787s going to JL, NH and UA) had a bigger impact on the QF orders then the pandemic did.

[@Ken.Howard]

I don't know why they don't hang onto the A380s, love that plane...

[@maxstechnology6363]

I know right. They probably will keep them longer like Emirates. When they released the statement for project fysh, they were less confident on the future but now rely on A380s a lot more than they expected, bringing back more than they initially agreed from storage.

[@timothybogle1461]

Qantas buys a lot of Canadian metal both the A220 and the Q400 (I count the A220 as Canadian).

[@rons4778]

The A220s are mainly used on Canberra flights

[@ashleyw1393]

Not really. Only Canberra to Melbourne. From Melbourne they are flown to Brisbane and Tasmania mostly. So most A220 flights are out of Melbourne. The maintenance base is in Canberra though.

[@kkkiiieeevvv]

Do Thai Airways please

[@golfbbqandwatches]

Airbus definitely have the better offerings over Boeing. Can’t wait for the 737s to be gone. I’m not sure the cabin layout for the 321XLRs makes sense. If they’re planning to fly MEL-NRT or similar, lie flat beds are a must in business. They will lose market share big time! Come on, you can fly MEL-PER in a lie flat on certain flights which is only 4 hours

[@paulll0504]

Could you do Air France next please

[@sheerluckholmes5468]

It may well be a very exciting time for Qantas and Qantaslink but not so much for travellers who will still get stiffed at every opportunity.

[@eamonahern7495]

I've never flown with Qantas. I've never been to Australia though. Just thinking what airlines I have flown with. I don't remember who my first flight was with. It was Belfast to Schipol in 1998. Other than that I've flown with: Aer Lingus Aer Arann express Aer Lingus regional which was run by a Scottish airline KLM Kenya Airways British Airways

[@derser541]

Why did we need to know this?

[@eamonahern7495]

@@derser541 I don't know. But I'm flattered that you asked rather than outright saying you didn't need to.

[@The_Apple_Sheep]

Can you do a video on how narrowbodies, such as the A220, get from where they are made to on the other side of the globe?

[@theharper1]

The delivery flight of the first A220 was YMX-YVR-HNL-NAN-SYD (Montreal-Vancouver-Honolulu-Nandi-Sydney). The routes for the Dash-8 are harder because their range is much shorter than the A220 unladen. They used to have a stop in Russia, so I'm curious what route they'd use now - maybe the long way via Europe? I think Simple Flying has had videos on delivery flights in the past. The most famous Qantas delivery flight was probably the first 747-400 from London to Sydney direct.

[@theskyline1425]

You haven't mentioned anything about the 787-10s Qantas had ordered

[@LongHaulbySimpleFlying]

These are part of the 12 787s ordered under Project Fysh, which was mentioned. But no, we didn’t specify the breakdown, which is 4 787-9s and 8 787-10s

[@ausie7of9]

They did mention it

[@shinkaitan5664]

Can u talk about the potential of an ultra-long-haul flight between London and Auckland by Air New Zealand in the next video?

[@charliefiggins7363]

Wonder how the A220s will go in the Pilbara

[@karlp8484]

Overall, good news, but I wish they would buy more A220s and less Q-400s.

[@John-qv5ux]

The Q400s can land in places the A220 cannot.

[@kell7195]

Dash-8's can also do barrel rolls - kzbin.info/www/bejne/fn3OfaWGadxgiNk

[@karlp8484]

@@kell7195 Actually any aeroplane can do barrel rolls, it's not very stressful on the airframe and aerodynamically it's not a big deal. 😃

[@Wheninflight]

What I will never understand is why Qantas is replacing its 737-800s with the A321XLR that has more range and capacity. I could understand an order for the A320NEO, but found a larger replacement strange.

[@al-2467]

Yes, if Qantas is replacing with A321XLR, why didn't it have 757 instead of 737-800 before?

[@EuropeanRailfanAlt]

Seems like airlines want the larger A321neo due to its flexibility

[@paulsz6194]

Where they don’t fly the extra range, they wil, have extra capacity to carry freight.

[@stradivarioushardhiantz5179]

A380 A350-1000 A321XLR A220-300

[@James.Jacks0n]

21 A321’s replacing 75 737’s ???

[@ashleyw1393]

Firm orders with a shed load of options for A321 and A220. What the stories like this don’t really show is that the 717’s have actually been replaced by Alliance E190’s and overtime as the A220 fleet grows it will be mostly be used as 737 replacements with the A321 being on routes with greater demand.

[@skylineXpert]

I expect more dream liveries. They better paint their first a350 with Wunala...

[@Plen3716]

oooOOoOoO or a pretty sunrise livery thingy (project sunrise y'know)

[@paulsz6194]

@@Plen3716isn’t that on the tail of the Phillipines Airlines?

[@PeterFruits-hm8rc]

NOOOOO .... The 717 should stay

[@Imnotabot_12341]

hello

[@pesawatindonesia]

waw

[@chandrachurniyogi8394]

both the A330-300 & A330-200 needs to be replaced with brand new B787-10 or A350-900 HGW . . . the A330s has been extensively used by Qantas logging more than just usual flight hours . . . the A220-300 can replace the aging B717-200 & A320-200 . . a combination of new A220-300 & Dash 8-400 can replace both the Dash 8-200 & Dash 8-300 turbo-props . . . Qantas upcoming extra-long haul services will ultimately require no less than 26 brand new A350-1000 ULR wide body jets . . . the A321-200neo XLR could do with a cabin configured to seat no more than 163 paxs in a 2-class (24 Business & 139 Eco) layout considering it's long range capabilities . . .

[@Rasscasse]

Why not replace the old A330s with the new 300-900 Neo? A big difference in price between the 350 and the 330 And also the waiting list is much shorter.

[@chandrachurniyogi8394]

@@Rasscasse Qantas won't be operating wide body jets on domestic routes, after the A330s are eventually retired from active service . . .

[@tomkleiner8628]

Qantas doesn’t want two configurations on their different aircraft types. Let me tell you, it’s a headache with the 5 different layouts of all of the A330’s. Currently the only difference on the B737’s are the IFE vs no IFE. I can’t see them ever having more business less economy for international flights on the XLRs compared to domestic XLRs. Also with the ULRs, While these will be deployed, they will not remove the stop over flights. There still will be a London service throughout the week that will be operated at least by the B787-9 to I assume continuing with SIN then LHR alongside the direct services on the ULRs. So at the moment they aren’t forecasting a need for a replacement of A380s to A350ULRs 1 for 1. If you get me

[@Plen3716]

Qantas is replacing them with a mix of 787 and a350 (project Fysh). Starting 2027 those aircraft should arrive but Qantas has a semi-decent config on the a330 and the average age of the fleet will be around 21 years at the time the planes are retired. @Rasscasse they already have 787s so they make more sense plus they have insane long haul capabilities and slightly better efficiency (we ALL know Qantas loves their range 😂). I imagine keeping some Boeing presence is kinda a good idea too.

[@kell7195]

@@tomkleiner8628 Id love to see a re-engined A380 live on

[@user-yt198]

What is A350-1000LR? I thought Project Sunrise aircraft would be ULR, not LR.

[@LongHaulbySimpleFlying]

Yeah we aren’t completely sure about details of the -1000LR since Airbus hasn’t said anything about it. But this appears multiple times in Qantas documents. As was mentioned in the video, 12 a350-1000ULRs are for Project Sunrise. The other 12 “LR” aircraft will eventually replace their a380s according to the info on their website.

[@tomkleiner8628]

The A350-1000 LR’s will contain more seating than the ULR’s with the removal of the wellness centre, and possibly a reduction of spacing between seats. And also no additional fuel tank that is being added specifically for the ULR’s. So higher capacity but lower range. A good fit to replace the A330 fleet that covers the network into Asia. The B787-10’s will also be higher capacity to cover the demand in Asia, but also the West Coast of the US, while the B787-9’s will be deployed to further US cities like Las Vegas, Chicago and even flying to Athens in Europe.

[@user-yt198]

@@tomkleiner8628 What is special about Athens? Why not Istanbul for example, which is a bigger hub.

[@tomkleiner8628]

@@user-yt198 because Turkish Airlines is a Star Alliance member. So not much help there. Plus Australia is the second biggest Diaspora of Greeks outside of Europe, which then makes other Australians desire to holiday in Greece.

[@ScrappySuper91]

@@user-yt198 Istanbul is completely dominated by Star Alliance carriers as well as its home airline Turkish Airlines. Unless there is sufficient point to point demand between Turkey and Australia Qantas won't compete against Turkish, simply because it can't.

[@daniellaugesen8355]

I will miss the A330 Melbourne to Perth flights, always my favourite. But 🎉🎉🎉 celebration the 737 will be retired, the worst plane to fly on in Australia in my PERSONAL opinion.

[@swarovski618]

157+20=177 not 197

[@ayaanpunit]

hallo

[@Jaxymann]

Anyone else think it's odd that Qantas, despite being part of the design consortium for the Boeing 777, has never operated it? With a route network of predominantly long-haul flights between Australia and Asia, Europe & North America and the need for aircraft able to operate transoceanic services thousands of miles in length, the 777 seems like such a straightforward option that's been around for nearly 30 years & used by the likes of Emirates, Singapore, Cathay Pacific and ANA in much the same way. Feels like kind of a missed opportunity if you ask me.

[@Dave_Sisson]

You may be right, but lets face it, they are the most disliked of modern widebodies by passengers. B787s, A330s, A350s and A380s are far more popular and Quantas flies all of them.

[@Plen3716]

Qantas either had the choice of a330 and a380 or 777. The 777 is great but I couldn't imagine Qantas' operations without the a330 and their a380 actually serves them really well on long haul. I think they made the right decision. Plus the Qantas A380 is just stunning and iconic ❤

[@781David]

@@Dave_Sisson Sigh... it's Qantas.

[@Dave_Sisson]

@@781David Even if they don't apply the basic rules of spelling and syntax, that doesn't mean that I will abandon them. 🤔

[@grantbelton1288]

@@Dave_Sisson You do know that QANTAS stands for Queensland And Northern Territory Aerial Services, hence why there is no u after Q in QANTAS, right?

[@AquaticSea-of4bd]

Go qantas!.

[@tigersharkzh]

More Qantas goodies kzbin.info/www/bejne/aIOoeoyKrN58ftE kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6SuZmWojciUl9E

[@cameronmckay6326]

The Qantas Group's fleet book is currently a mess and will be not much better when all the new aircraft are eventually received. When all the new fleet are received the aircraft being retained will be like great grandparents when it comes to age. Not all the QantasLink fleet are operated by wholly own subsidiary companies within the Qantas Group, in particular the Embraer 190 fleet operated by Alliance Airlines. These smaller Embraer 190 aircraft have taken over many Qantas trunk routes around Australia. The quality of service offered by Qantas is falling drastically and just remember that if you have purchased a Qantas ticket it doesn't mean you will be travelling on a Qantas plane. Airbus is not the answer to the big problems at Qantas. The causes of the problems at Qantas are the management, its size and Jetscare (Jetstar). It definitely is not the Spirit of Australia anymore.

[@elucid07]

Qantas fleet is much like their service and reputation: tattered, tired and outdated.

[@happyjh3928]

I think Qantas should purchase the 737 max so they wouldn’t have to pay more money for training for a whole new plane. Yes I know they have some A319s and A320s but Qantas have more 737 so that should stick with them.

[@Plen3716]

The 737max simply does not have the capability of the XLR. Qantas also got some good deals combing their order with jetstars and also the a220. The XLR is incredibly versatile, efficient and comfortable and while I don't hate the MAX, the neo/xlr plus a220 is an objectively better option for Qantas.

[@kell7195]

Errr NO

[@Oscar-o7j]

It’s good that Qantas is getting A350s but I think Qantas needs 777s (777-300er, 777x) to replace the aging A330s and A380s.

[@ausie7of9]

No they do not need 777

[@tomkleiner8628]

@@ausie7of9100% agree. We do not need the absolute nightmare of the 777X aircraft at all

[@Plen3716]

They are using a350-1000s to replace the a380 next decade and a mix of a350s and 787s to replace a330s staring 2027. Makes a lot of sense because you could fly two a350ks instead of one a380, and the a350 and 787 are a reasonable size to replace the a330. The 777X isn't necessary at all and would just add fleet complexity for no reason when the a350k is large and has a way longer range than the 777-9. You could fly two a350ks but not two 777-9s. There isn't any point adding the -8 in the equation here either :)

[@ScrappySuper91]

Qantas doesn't need 777

[@russellwilson6193]

✈️🇦🇺🦘🛫🛬

[@GG-hi5if]

Qantas business class is pretty poor

[@beachman8106]

No point in having the latest planes if the cabin and ground crews are arrogant and lazy.

[@JoseBrenesAU]

I hate how they enlarged single aisle instead of shortening the double aisle for flights longer than 5 hours

[@alastairhil4417]

A321 ehhhhhhh 😒…

[@bennyboost]

Who on earth would want to be stuck in an A321 for a 9 hour flight to HK from Sydney? no thanks. I'll take Cathay.

[@paulsz6194]

Philippine Airlines flies the A321 XLR From MNL- SYD

[@AndrewRod-c5v]

More 787 than airbus boeing a better way to fly the flying rat !

[@18yea]

Modernising -Airbus 😂. Yeh Nah

[@henryallchurch]

They need the 737 max instead of the a321

[@bowieted6214]

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