The Wave Concept: How I Build a Reliable Grip Consistently

Taken at a Nov 2019 Class in Homestead, FL, I talk about how to build a reliable grip using the proprioceptive indexes of my middle finger on the firing hand and index finger on the support hand. I then doing a "wave" motion torquing my hand into the gun. For RDS Pistols this grip[ works well because the pinky is the last finger to torque in so it drops the dot down into place.
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As always, this is "a" not "the" way

[@Robert-qp1ut]

Well damn, that makes a lot of sense. I love when instructors teach not only what, but the how and why of a concept.

[@rickgabriel02]

Wait, WHAT? That makes total sense. How can something be so simple yet missed by so many?

[@Cho_Mama]

I literally went "oohhh smaaarrrrt" while sitting in front of my computer, you're a genius Jedi

[@TacticalPrius]

Thanks for the info. I’ve been working on a better grip this month and this video opened my eyes. I didn’t know what I didn’t know and the wave analogy was spot on. I’m absolutely sharing this one with the guys at work. Thanks again.

[@typic007]

I usually shoot a PDP (PPQ before that), but I recently purchased a G43x for easier conceal carry. Was having a really hard time adjusting to the grip, terrible accuracy. This technique was a game changer! Night and day! Thank you!

[@mrtaylorhelm]

Holy crap, Scott. this is huge! Thank you for sharing.

[@drippin_sauce9874]

Hands down best grip video….. I’ve watched many

[@JackTGreat]

That's a great way to describe building a grip and what to pay attention to in dry fire.

[@mattparker4144]

Every single video this man puts out makes me a better shooter.

[@Mayday9039]

That's Good stuff right there Jedi!

[@theworldisnotenough]

Ha! I'm a new shooter (3000 - 3500 rds) and this is the exact method I use to get a grip on my pistol. Now I have to take this class.

[@osaze61]

Wow, great explanation and illustration.

[@saarcapacitaciones9554]

Very interesting and useful! Thank you so much! Great Instructor. Greetings from Chile.

[@jpipaj]

Awesome breakdown

[@thomasmcozart1093]

Thank you for sharing this!

[@ALauFirearmsTraining]

I can't wait to take a class from you!

[@thomasyager2603]

Dude that’s game changing

[@edipocarvalho100]

Love this

[@greg-judyjones8974]

Nice!

[@onpsxmember]

I think I got it now, have to test & record what's really happening on life fire though. The rolling up and not forward was what I was missing.

[@colbyc.6698]

That info should have netted you a million dollars

[@sluice411]

Straight money!

[@NHlocal]

Dang Scott!!! 😳 You just spilt a whole bunch of free milk all over the interwebs..... 😎👊

[@shimongratzman6269]

Great video Scott,and thanks for what you bring to the community. If you can please elaborate on the "Wave" and have a closeup look at the grip technique it will be greatly appreciated. looking forward to take one of your classes.

[@ModernSamuraiProject]

Shimon Gratzman Only so much free milk can be given my friend. I’ll see you in class. 😉

[@shimongratzman6269]

@@ModernSamuraiProject 10-4 Samurai. Having any plan for the NY-NJ-CT anytime soon?

[@gabbyhayes1568]

@@ModernSamuraiProject lol. Where do I sign up.

[@928RealEstate]

Curious, what gun are you shooting?

[@MellowFellowOfYellow]

Wish you would come back to Homestead Training Center

[@GIO_RUBBLE]

spoiler alert........jedi game changer👊🏻.............thanks jedi for the 🤯

[@axist2389]

Does the offhand thumb rest against the slide passively? Do you worry about the grooves on the side of the slide tearing up the thumb?

[@ModernSamuraiProject]

Yes passively. No. I have never had an issue with that.

[@chrisshumake83]

👍👍

[@1sbratton]

What wizardry is this!?!

[@codyrichardson6038]

Are those the targets that your standards are shot on?

[@ModernSamuraiProject]

Cody Richardson No. these are: www.nationaltarget.com/index.php/modern-samurai-project-c-67?osCsid=d87b33557a7e24d26b3e99daddb173a1

[@AlphaDad]

Can someone train with you that runs iron sights only?

[@ModernSamuraiProject]

Only in my AIWB class

[@OctaneAndAmmo]

When you say grip up are you applying force up with your whole support arm, or just the hand?

[@ModernSamuraiProject]

Grip up into you middle firing hand trigger and the trigger guard with your support hand index finger.

[@OctaneAndAmmo]

@@ModernSamuraiProject thank you! I look forward to attending your 3day class in March!

[@henryliu1046]

​@@OctaneAndAmmo howd it go? I got one with him next month in june, cant wait

[@OctaneAndAmmo]

@@henryliu1046 it was great. Mine was 3 days and I definitely improved. His class helps you diagnose your faults better. Hunter Freeland did the class with him and he was a great instructor also. I would def do it again. Let me know how it goes.

[@heeebeeegeeebeee]

This video made me want to go dry fire. Too bad I'm at the office. Got to wait until later 🤔

[@michaelwren5276]

When your thumb is sitting on the slide does that hurt when you shoot?

[@ModernSamuraiProject]

Nope

[@michaelwren5276]

@@ModernSamuraiProject thank you sir.

[@nono559]

So essentially the support hand thumb is not point straight ahead but more towards the slide?

[@ModernSamuraiProject]

Correct

[@nono559]

@@ModernSamuraiProject is that because it’ll pull the grip away from the back of the gun?

[@ModernSamuraiProject]

@@nono559 Yiur hand follows your thumbs. If straight, there is nothing to stop it. If angled up, the trigger guard will stop your hand from moving with a proper grip.

[@nono559]

@@ModernSamuraiProject makes a lot of sense. There’s still a cant in the wrist but not over exaggerated like what others teach. I’m assuming the rotation of the support hand goes as far as not to pass the slide?

[@TokyotimTech]

Trying to learn about grip is very confusing at the end you say don’t lock your support wrist but Vogel’s videos he tells you to

[@ModernSamuraiProject]

Try both. See which one works better for you based on speed and accuracy.

[@8654ZuluFoxtrot]

People are commenting on this video like it’s some new concept…..this technique is called “thumbs forward” and has been taught to military spec ops, SWAT, and basically all professional shooters for years and years. He’s doing a great job of explaining how to feel it though and I commend that. Although locking your wrist does not lock your elbow, unless you’re mechanically wrong in your presentation. But as a follow instructor, connecting with a student so the light goes on in their head and they can hopefully apply the technique properly is always the end goal. Calling it “the wave concept” is basically a way to market an already proven fundamental of shooting…..a good solid grip.

[@ModernSamuraiProject]

The thumbs aren’t forward they are slightly angled up.

[@ModernSamuraiProject]

Also the pressure of gripping up and not out is really the difference.

[@8654ZuluFoxtrot]

@@ModernSamuraiProject Explain the why please.

[@ModernSamuraiProject]

@@8654ZuluFoxtrot Do your research please. Tons of videos out there on the concept.

[@8654ZuluFoxtrot]

@@ModernSamuraiProject Okay, so you don’t have an answer for me. You once again assume I’m new at this. I called you out on another of your “concepts” that you could not explain and here we are again. You state I can do my own research, when in reality I’ve been a professional shooter since 1986 and have never heard of “The Wave Concept” until you. But I’m watching your videos and you are using a thumbs forward grip, explaining a thumbs forward grip, and then adding nonsense such as “it locks your elbow, which you don’t want” which is nonsense. You are good at what you do, but you are implementing your own title onto things that have been a standard for generations of shooting. You didn’t invent this, you are just giving it another name. If your viewers want to see a proper grip video, go check out what Travis Haley or Mike Glover puts out. Incidental….I love how you steal Travis Haley’s proprioception teachings into your own as if you also came up with that knowledge.

[@devongrey4135]

Some of the ideas here are good and useful, but the meaning of "up, over, and through" in the context of how to form a grip isn't totally clear. That seems like it is a description of "how it should feel". Perhaps it would help to also add a more detailed description of what the hands are actually doing through the motion?

[@ModernSamuraiProject]

Perhaps you should come to a class to get the full description of the technique.

[@devongrey4135]

@@ModernSamuraiProject I'd love to. You're booked up for quite a long time. I think your success has reached the point where selling your personal time doesn't scale real well. If you want to reach a broader audience, and still make sure you're getting paid (since youtube demonitizes anything gun), you might try putting out training videos or writing a book.

[@Kh2456]

Good stuff but you can lock out your wrists without locking out your elbows.

[@ModernSamuraiProject]

Doing either is inefficient.

[@peters303]

Hard to follow due to poor audio

[@ModernSamuraiProject]

I’ll refund the amount you paid to watch the video.