Moist Meter | The Green Knight

[@Mistborn_San]

"You are constantly questioning what's real and what's not" Arthurian mythos in a nutshell.

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[@Nikocado.Avocado]

Jacks dad is in heaven

[@turkeygod6665]

@Louielolbruh why are you like this

[@TheChilternChronicles]

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[@eeshkawumbathelogical4108]

I guess the bots are becoming more wholesome?

[@dannydesperado9211]

*SPOILERS* Right before the green knight addresses the table, Arthur gives a glance to a man with runes under his eyes who gives him a slight shake of his head. I’d have to guess that the man was Merlin, letting Arthur know the knight is not someone to be toyed with.

[@brandonjoyner9279]

i’m pretty sure that was confirmed to be merlin, really cool little nod to the king arthur lore

[@taelib1425]

That's sick

[@buttlicker7670]

They never even call the king "Arthur", do they? Like I picked up on the fact that it was Arthur and Guinevere and Excalibur and all that, but it made me feel smart that they never explicitly called that by their names but I understood it. And then the rest of the film made me feel stupid because I had no idea what was happening lol

[@dannydesperado9211]

@@buttlicker7670 usually I like to go into movies completely blind, but this is one of those films were it’s definitely beneficial to know the basic plot going in. I appreciate how natural it all felt. Like Arthur didn’t bring out his sword and say “Take Excalibur” or something clunky like that (because everyone there already knows what Excalibur is)

[@freddymittler8349]

It is indeed Merlin also his mother is Morgan Le Fay

[@na-Baron]

Shoutout to Green Knight for being the first Strand Type Movie to hit the theaters. Nothing beats a walking simulator, a bad mushroom trip and the Hospital Scene from Evangelion.

[@na-Baron]

@Jacksepticeye's dad is burning in hell (Savetion) Hwat?

[@Nikocado.Avocado]

Bt

[@TheMattyman199]

You win this one chief

[@carrioff7067]

JACKSEPTICEYES DAD IS HAVING A GOOD TIME IN HEAVEN!!!

[@carrioff7067]

JACKSEPTICEYES DAD IS HAVING A GOOD TIME IN HEAVEN!!!

[@MisterChubz]

I definitely think adding a spoiler section at the end of moist meters would make them even more sodden

[@ketan6969]

No

[@j.epstein7723]

@@energizerbee720 You are a disgus- oh, wait, what???

[@uliloves4929]

What does sodden mean

[@frankjordan6637]

@@uliloves4929 idk

[@Pizza21002]

major drippage

[@murdergiraffe19]

The way I interpreted why Gawain was so quick to accept The Green Knight's game was because he had no stories to tell King Arthur and he needed to seek the honor of a story and a quest to really feel like he's a legit knight.

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[@SimBol1216]

Yeah it's pretty clear this dude barely even watched this movie. It's like one of the most obvious points and he missed it.

[@Doctorfudge62]

My interpretation is that his mother and king Arthur worked together to summon the Green Knight and set him up as the next king. King Arthur has no heir and Gawain is next in line for the throne. Being the loser that he was King Arthur and Gawains mother used the Green Knight to create a legend for Gawain so that he would be followed by the other legends at the round table. Gawain is probably instructed to deal a fatal blow to the Green Knight so that when he returns from the quest alive instead of dead his legend is even greater. Gawain however doesnt seem to want to be king and most likely does this to please his mother and Arthur. Throughout the film it seems like Gawain has no real goal/motivation other that to be an "honorable knight", the meaning of which depends on the individual. Gawain sees this quest as his only way of achieving honor but throughout the journey he begins to question whether it will bring him true honor. You see this struggle especially when he loses his protection charm, which would keep him alive when the Green Knight beheads him. The ending scene where Gawain envisions his life where he flees (keeps the charm on) shows him becoming king but never being happy or achieving the "true honor" that he seeks. When he removes the charm Gawain rejects the life his mother and King Arthur decided for him and becomes a true knight, embracing death and the honor it brings him. "Well done Sir Knight, now off with your head" is probably the only time Gawain was praised for something he did of his own volition without expecting anything in return. Solid 8.5/10

[@_Brohan]

Fuck I think you nailed it 💯% that makes complete sense. I wonder if this was the goal of the poem.

[@g0lddustt29]

Morgan La Fey and Arthur are not friends. In fact they're mostly antagonistic towards each other in most of the Athurian mythos. She wanted her son to finally receive a proper place at his uncle's table. All of the knights there are proven, honorable men; why would they need to play the Green Knight's game?

[@Ζήνων-ζ1ι]

@@g0lddustt29 maybe. In early stories Morgan seemed to be okay with Arthur, even taking care of him in Avalon

[@anomalousbanana2299]

Additionally, in the opening of the poem, Gawain steps up to the Green Knight's challenge in place of Arthur because he thinks he's worthless, and believes that his beheading would be the "least loss of life."

[@LongTimeNoSeeO_O]

I think you nailed it because remember when he had to fish the ghost girls head out of the well ? He asked "what do I get in return?" That inherently shows his selfish nature

[@MapleMilk]

FINALLY, a movie that both English Teachers and Film Teachers can love!

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[@wisco9er536]

Dead Poets Society

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[@aaronnedlan8636]

@@wisco9er536 was coming here just to comment this film, Robin Williams was so good in this film

[@rednax99]

I feel like Arrival could fall into that category

[@erikrobinson9999]

Spoiler response to Charlies things he talked about: I can agree with what you said about his mother's motives not being explicitly stated however I think something I see everyone overseeing is that the game the Green Knight gives to the table is a test. He says that any blow that is given, whether it be a scratch or a slice, would be returned a year later. The table was apprehensive as they didn't know it was a trick. Garwain obviously through fault of not listening and wanting to appear as noble takes him up on a challenge he himself didn't understand and chops his head off. He basically kills himself through his own fault which is the entire point of the movie. Coming to terms with the decisions you've made which I think is actually smart.

[@user-qf6xn7rj5y]

Thank you, this comment helped me understand the movie much better.

[@APTheis]

100% agree with this. What really gave it away were the shots of Arthur's face, almost displeased by the decision Gawain made. Also important to note, that a true knight would never have struck-down an opponent who did not take-up arms. When the Green Knight laid his axe down, that should have been the clue Gawain needed to either a) resist the urge to "appear" strong, or b) like you said, maybe a punch or a nick.

[@iSOBigD]

Yeah he not only made the wrong choice there, but during every other test as well. Apparently the knights need to have certain qualities and pass tests on topics like charity, loyalty, etc. And our guy was cheap with his coins, he lied to a guy whose house he stayed at, was lazy and asked the titans for a ride... He wasn't the noble knight he had to be, he was only there because he was related to king Arthur. This was his journey to realize that and finally start being a good, noble man who could one day deserve the people's respect, especially if he is to rule them. You saw that happened in his vision at the end if he just ran off like a coward. In the end, his mom created this test to turn him into a responsible adult. He didn't die in the original story, and there was a smirk on the Green Knight at the end when he said time to cut off your head, so he likely would have just scratched him a little.

[@MarigoldAW]

This is exactly what I was thinking. The one piece of dialogue seemed so important and I felt as though Garwain went overboard in an attempt to be a fierce knight. Only he is confronted with his cowardice all throughout the movie. His cowardice makes him say he wasn't a knight when he was ambushed, his cowardice to admit he was in love, his cowardice to accept death. King Arthur even mutters to him that "it is just a game" as he takes hold of the sword.

[@Sellswordking]

The whole thing takes a shift when you realize it’s about accepting the consequences of your actions more than chasing bravery. Gawain multiple times throughout the movie shies away from the consequences of his actions; harmful AND helpful. His mother’s motivation for summoning the Knight was less to teach her son bravery and more to get him to understand his lacksidasical approach to a consequence free life was no way to live, especially as the nephew to King Arthur, the bravest and purest king of legend.

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[@corniel657]

@Louielolbruh hell ye go get em champ

[@Mlynoph]

(ending spoilers ahead) I think that's the right interpretation as well. Im not sure how exactly charlie got the theme of honor from this movie when the entire conversation between gewain and the lord was about how honor was not exactly what gewain was looking to achieve out of his life. Acceptance of consequences is the whole theme since we see how terrible things turned out in the flash forward that gewain had when he thought of running, which is why he took off the protective cloth and accepted his destiny.

[@donniejefferson9554]

That analysis actually helps me get the movie quite a bit more. I was pretty thrown off with the different ending from the original but thud interpretation makes it a lot better for me. Overall pretty sick movie

[@12xumk59]

(SPOILERS) Yep, I specifically saw it as him chasing lust, then not accepting the consequences of its results. I believe the lady in the blue dress said something along those lines “after red (lust) always comes green (fertility, growth, effect)”. At the end of the movie where he sees his reality if he chose to run away from the green knight (in a sense not accepting the consequence for his lust for murder in the beginning of the movie), he literally had sex with his gf, she had his baby, and he chose to Abandon her. Another point the lady in blue made, was that no matter how much you try to eradicate the green, it’ll always come back. That green (consequence) incessantly disrupted his life in that vision, (his son dying, his kingdom falling apart, his wife and daughter leaving him to be killed). The scene that really completes this theme for me is when he dove into the water to retrieve the dead ladies head. He in essence completely indulged in his lust, succumbing to his desires and the wishes of the lady. When he arises from the red pool the only thing he brings back is her rotting skull.

[@-k-b-]

This movie feels like a bunch of Skyrim side-quests

[@snorlaxcock6473]

@Alo Co wow so funny bro never heard it before

[@nickglttbaow]

wow you nailed that actually

[@TheGamesReal]

skyrim side quests are way more interesting

[@psychosocal3368]

After the movie, I felt like wanting to play Skyrim when I went home.

[@Flamerunner451]

The side quests were by far the best part of Skyrim

[@alfie4234]

It’s cool that he’s doing spoilers now, I found it annoying when he refers to a spoiler, but I have no idea exactly what he’s referring to.

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[@keenbeech520]

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[@hankhill2254]

What the hell is this comment section?

[@TheChilternChronicles]

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[@Starrofheart]

@@TheChilternChronicles i wish you the best day

[@Andizzle666]

The director himself said he made it to where the mother was behind it all because she basically wanted to see her son ascend to becoming a chivalrous man. He was basically a failure to launch kid and she wanted him to get a job.

[@StrikeWarlock]

Yet he failed all of them. Dude basically coasted all the way to the finals and was hoping to pass solely via attendance.

[@yermom014]

@@StrikeWarlock He didn't necessarily fail, he learned.

[@canyonmoon4741]

shiit I guess my grandparents were right about everything being way harder back then imagine going on a arduous quest vs stocking shelves

[@mr.goblin6039]

@@StrikeWarlock Sometimes, just barely passing is all it takes for one to learn to get their shit together.

[@Bxrry]

if you were in the movie it would have been a 100%

[@Raphamann]

@Jacksepticeye's dad is burning in hell (Savetion) that was funny

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[@vinpetrol999]

@Jacksepticeye's dad is burning in hell (Savetion) so will yours 😂😂😂😂😂

[@TheAnimeDude]

This goes for nearly every movie

[@lostfire4556]

@Jacksepticeye's dad is burning in hell (Savetion) 😠

[@EhvinnTee]

Charlie: "I didn't know this was like a poem written like thousands of years ago before Jesus was even born." [they literally celebrate Christmas in the story.]

[@TheBaronVSP]

joke your head

[@YoungEldritch]

The Green Knight is a pre-Christian poem that's been adapted by Christian monks. Some versions see Arthur's court as Christian (usually based on the versions written down by Christians), others see them as pre-Christian. It's similar to how some versions of Beowulf depict Grendel or his mother as explicitly Satanic or not.

[@483SGT]

Before Charlie was born so technically correct

[@superspazzninja5297]

So this is a Christmas movie. Jk, I've seen it. Unless....

[@frostymarbles2655]

one of the first lines is "christ is born" lmfao

[@sharlockshacolmes9381]

I think that by honor you can't deny another knight's duel, I haven't seen the movie but from other knights stories I read it's dishonorable to refuse to fight since it's seen as cowardly.

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[@r.cdahuman7682]

You are correct, at least from an Arthurian sense. Of course there are some limits. At festivals, competitions of strength or skill were rather common in these stories. Even full on war games, with 20 or more knights on either side.

[@Nikocado.Avocado]

Jacks dad in heaven

[@Yethegoat10]

I used that EXACT same defense in my domestic dispute case

[@kenangedik3678]

@@Yethegoat10 lmfao

[@zodd2989]

The green knight is supposed to represent the old religion's of wicca/druidism vs Christianity. The poem is about the balance of the old ways and the new and what it really means to be chivalrous. I know this because I had to write a a 24 page essay in this poem in college.

[@matthewjohnson1633]

Wicca isn't old. It was invented relatively recently as a bastardization of multiple pagan religions.

[@nickhippen2850]

You wrote a 24 page paper on this in college yet can't spell "supposed" right.

[@zodd2989]

@@nickhippen2850 I used to proofread the for hours but I still fuck up at times

[@zodd2989]

@@matthewjohnson1633 either way you get the jist of it

[@matthewjohnson1633]

@@zodd2989 lol yeah it just triggers me when I see white girls talk about Wicca as if its this ancient thing.

[@morningbee4328]

Green knight was summoned to pose an obstacle/prove that King Arthur’s knights were not honorable

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[@marq503]

@Louielolbruh idk about that but you’ll find out if he is soon enough

[@CrimesForDimes]

@Louielolbruh Well, go find out if he is.

[@Elsanna7]

@Louielolbruh Hell doesn't exist.

[@TheChilternChronicles]

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[@loganparrish5977]

In the poem we read in my High school class the green knight offered the challenge and no one excepted. Arthur who was ashamed of his knights, was going to take the challenge to redeem the honor of his men when Gawain stepped up instead

[@wildonionchase3934]

Lots of changes from the poem, I would’ve liked the movie more if they had just said “influenced by Sir Gawain and the Green Knight” because I wouldn’t call this a satisfying adaptation of the original.

[@celestestork5171]

Spoiler: Yeah I wasn’t happy when he slept with the Duke’s wife (I forget, was he a Duke?) to get the belt, because in the poem he wouldn’t even so much as kiss her, And yet when the man came home with his kills, Gawain in turn gave him a peck on the cheek as a gift. It was a very amusing part I was sad wasn’t in the film… I mean it kind of was but it was more…weird

[@callanthemeryllia252]

@@celestestork5171 The movie deliberately portrays an extremely flawed Gawain who fails all the challenges that the poem Gawain succeeds at. The husband even has to press Gawain super hard just to get that peck on the cheek in the film.

[@celestestork5171]

@@callanthemeryllia252 So basically just experimenting with an opposite Gawain from the one in the poem? I guess it makes sense since there wouldn’t really be any suspense in how his mistakes will come back on him, Like no consequences means no lessons learned.. And maybe it’s a tad more relatable to us more normal people…? Though to be honest, that semen covered belt really caught me off guard😮‍💨🤢

[@Susboycocoa]

Gawain is kinda sad that all he is known for is being related to King Arthur so he takes up the challenge to make a name for himself as a knight more than anything. I think his mom wanted to put him to the test because she saw that he was always getting drunk and visiting the brothels

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[@Nikocado.Avocado]

Jacks dad is in heaven

[@Jmotist]

Haven't seen the movie but in the original poem morgan just wanted to kill the queen from shock when the green knight shows up which didn't work.

[@kenken8765]

Sir Gawain is the ultimate BRO. There's another King Arthur story called The Wedding of Sir Gawain and Dame Ragnelle. Where King Arthur was forced to a seemingly impossible task by a disgruntled knight of finding the answer to the question of "What women really want?" in his honor since the knight spared him. Shit got worse when they finally got the true answer from some ugly hag but in exchange sir Gawain must marry her and Gawain did without questioning. The ending was good though.

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[@TheRealDoomBot]

The long shots don’t surprise me considering the guy who directed this directed A Ghost Story. There’s a 5 or 6 minute scene that just hangs on Rooney Mara eating a fucking pie in the floor. One shot. 6 minutes. No music. Pie.

[@flashdelirium2]

And then she throws up immediately after

[@StylizeRoyal42]

Pie

[@b.Kuijpers.]

Or in Supernatural where Dean and cas just stare at eachother while the frame slowly ascends. That was really awkward

[@leovanilla6833]

Yeah despite not getting the movie entirely, I would have appreciated if they didn't take soooooo many long shots of seemingly beautiful, but nothing shots. It makes what is actually an interesting tale into a dragged out movie. This film could have been a solid 1 hour and a half or hour and 45 min movie.

[@cinemacola6398]

Lowry is a very frustrating filmmaker in my opinion. I love his dream like quality to his shots and to his movies, but some shots/scenes last too long with no real purpose to them or little purpose. Like the scene, you just mentioned. Its like, we fucking get it, she's depressed and she's trying to find some way to fill that void. We got it within the first minute. Two solid minutes and then he could have cut, but he didn't. I'm going into this movie with an open mind, but hearing from Charlie that it's the same bull shit is really making me reconsider.

[@999MovieReviews999]

She summoned the Green Knight to see if her son had what it takes to become a honourable and noble knight. She saw her son from the beginning of the film who would go to the brothel instead of church, when King Arthur asks him to tell a story he has none to tell. She saw her son was going down the opposite path of a true king and tested his heart, strength, and character to see if he could pull through and in the future become the knight the mom always wanted him to be.

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[@Nikocado.Avocado]

Jacks dad is in heaven

[@CreamyDreamybull]

Also thought it was interesting that at the end when the green Knight wipes away the dirt on his face like the king did towards the beginning of the movie. I think the king had his mom send the green Knight in secret.

[@Laeshen]

it should be noted that his mother is Morgana

[@TheChilternChronicles]

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[@etalex7074]

Honestly I loved the camera spinny bit Charlie was complaining about. Sometimes you just have to sit back and absorb a movie.

[@jonvart6136]

i just finished watching it and i genuinely dont know which bit he means, i remember a few 360 shots but non as egregiously long as charlie suggests

[@nezlyph]

I think the one where gwain was tied down to the ground

[@AaaBbb-xc4mr]

For reals I loved it

[@AaaBbb-xc4mr]

@@jonvart6136 He was way over exaggerating it like a drama queen lol

[@jonvart6136]

@@AaaBbb-xc4mr honestly after the 6 minute pie eating scene in a ghost story this is one of a24's tamest moments

[@beckybusstop8087]

That one shot at the beginning when the crown descends onto him and his head catches fire… that’s when I knew I was gonna love this shit

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[@The-Wolf-with-no-name]

And the shit was liked hard

[@bmbmbm669]

Tolkien's translation of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight is rad.

[@codyallen2838]

Tolkien was so gifted and practiced with language too that you know the translation is right on.

[@TheBigBird92]

None of the experienced knights accepted the challenge. Gawain, eager to prove his worth, naively jumped at the opportunity.

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[@jordanlayton6540]

No one show Charlie 2001: A Space Odyssey. He’ll be reaaaal frustrated.

[@fedoragent0077]

Dev Patel has taken Charles’ heart to the shadow realm.

[@Nikocado.Avocado]

Jacks dad is in heaven

[@theTeflonDon1]

Green knight was ass.

[@TheChilternChronicles]

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[@gamerboii0566]

​@Louielolbruh Did you book you own place in heaven? cause you will be eating dirt in hell. LOL XD

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[@APTheis]

FOR CHARLIE. Alright, so I just saw the movie and I really loved it. Completely not what I was expecting but in the best way possible. Here's what I took away from this review … ***SPOILERS*** - Regarding the two "360" shots; these were to allow the audience to get a sense that the environment was changing around Gawain as he laid bound and gagged. He fell unconscious, the first 360 being his vision of what was to come if he didn't wake up/ fulfill his quest. The second "360" to establish that he was, in-fact, still alive and willing to fight. Each shot being "three minutes" each is a bit of an exaggeration. They were a lot faster than this review let-on. - Regarding Gawain's mother's intentions; this was a lot more obvious than Charlie's review made it seem. Throughout the beginning of the movie, Morgana (King Arthur's sister/ Gawain's mother) makes comments regarding his character. In a scene where King Arthur asks Gawain to sit by his side, many comments were made regarding who Gawain is, the tales he has of his life (or lack thereof) and the chances he would have to be known, as the other knights were, as a legend. Gawain's mother summoned the Green Knight as a way to force Gawain out on his own and test her son's character and mettle. Having done nothing with his life up to that point, Morgana takes drastic steps to push Gawain into the world and make a name for himself. One thing to note, the letter that was given to the Green Knight was not the same letter that was given to the King. Morgana summoned the Green Knight with her intentions, and the Green Knight gave his proposition to King Arthur in-return. - Regarding Green Knight's challenge; it was merely a game from the beginning. Should the knight accepting the challenge (Gawain) have a strong morale character to begin with, they would not have struck down the Green Knight as he laid down his arms. The challenge if you do strike him down is finding the courage to unflinchingly face your fear by find the courage you need to willing meet your end after seeking out the Green Knight at the chapel. This was PURELY a matter of personal honor and character. - Regarding Gawain's "fame" in killing the Green Knight; this one was tricky, because it held closer to the poem than most of the movie did. For the year following his killing the Green Knight, the tale of Gawain becomes something of a local legend. You hear this when Gawain is addressed in a tavern when a man says that he "struck him down with his own axe." We know this to not be true. It's also not obvious, but the Green Knight is already an established legend in the area, but this isn't made clear in the movie. Later on, Gawain meets a man (The Lord) played by Joel Edgerton. This is Lord Bertilak, who in the poem is ACTUALLY the Green Knight. No one else except him outside of the area Gawain lives knows who he is or what he's done (made clear by an encounter with three bandits). While it isn't outright addressed, it could be that the only reason The Lord knows of Gawain's achievement is because he is the Green Knight. Otherwise, it could be assumed that because he is an avid hunter who travels all over, he could have heard the legend of Gawain in-passing. I 100% agree with Charlie's take that there is a lot left to be interpreted from the film, and you really had to pay attention to the early portions of the movie to get the info you needed. The ending especially is left ambiguous on-purpose, because the poem HAS a definitive ending. Just thought I'd make an attempt to clear some portions of the movie up as best I could. Would love to hear back on other people's theories. That's about it. Later.

[@DanDan-vu5tb]

Totally agree with this one

[@gregwxst]

The Huge Knight reviews the Green Knight. Most anticipated movie of the year, can't wait to watch!

[@ezrahmolina]

@Logan omg same

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[@freedominart11]

The Green Knight didn't say that he wanted to be struck down, just that any knight that can land a blow no matter the size will have that same blow returned. Gawain made a mistake trying to be brave in front of King Arthur by chopping off the knight's head. His own bravado and need to be honorable potentially cost him his life.

[@_Brohan]

Yeah the whole time I was like just poke the guy's thigh a lil

[@Smokey348]

ye, i was like just cut his arm or cheek or smth lol

[@nenadmilovanovic5271]

@@_Brohan He couldn't really do that. He must give a blow he is ready to recieve in return, poking the knight would make him look like a coward in front of literal legends.

[@_Brohan]

@@nenadmilovanovic5271 true, okay but realistically, maybe I would have not lopped the guys head off, but i do like living.

[@tungabunga4107]

Charlie, you might have to ban the word jacksepticeye just like mutahar did, and any variation of the jacksepticeye name, because these garbage comments about his dad are getting out of hand.

[@AxxLAfriku]

I broke my feet today because I kicked my computer because someone commented that my videos are bad! I hate unjustified criticism. Please wish me a speedy recovery, dear tun

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[@user-fx2bc6be3m]

Exhibit A: look above Edit: The bot that was spamming the terrible stuff about his dad deleted the comment or was deleted

[@TCapButterCup]

Yeah

[@kayEnt3rtainm3nt]

Given that Charlie STILL has not blocked AxxL I doubt he'll do that level of housekeeping to his comments section.

[@morgster3880]

The movie itself doesn’t specify why the Green Knight was summoned, likely because in the original poem the reasoning was actually a joke. He was summoned because Morgan thought that the sight of the Green Knight picking up his own head would be so disgusting that Arthur’s wife would feint, hit her head, and die.

[@aderemiporsche]

I think you meant *faint.* Feint is something else.

[@morgster3880]

@@aderemiporsche the one bloody time i forget to spellcheck my comment

[@isuckatusernames4297]

quicrky medieval witch things

[@rango8971]

I was just raging at game, hearing Charlie’s voice is now calming me. Thank you Charlie.

[@twicel5457]

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[@rango8971]

damn these bot comments are annoying

[@iamalozfan1240]

Here, have a real person

[@dgsezu]

I an bot (trust)

[@Nikocado.Avocado]

JACKS DAD IS IN HEAVEN

[@Grumbo91]

I met Dev Patel in town while he was here filming this movie. Cool chap.

[@BunsBooks]

I just went and watched it tonight and I loved it. My arms fell asleep as I was so captivated I didn’t move. I read the book last week and I do highly recommend reading it first, I would have been largely lost if I hadn’t. The meaning I got from it is achieving honor through ego death. Everyone in the kingdom seems to know some corrupted version of his deed, because his concept of self is public. It changes and morphs in other peoples retellings (“every table in the kingdom”) as he seeks his own actualization outwardly, the very reason he naively jumped to the challenge. We just see a scared young man grappling with the idea of greatness and what it really means. I was disappointed by the dialogue in the end, I was expecting him to say *the line* in the book that was so captivating but alas, he did not. I’m not as well versed in the Arthurian tradition as I am in the Norse Sagas, but I am reading Erec & Enide and The Faerie Queen to understand better. If you love long ass movies full of old ass literary/artistic/mythological references that you’re just expected to understand, this is the one for you

[@johnhernandez5938]

I love that as I was listening to Charlie air his grievances about the movie, it was *instantly* clear to me that he was just describing what an arthouse movie is. *For anyone else who watches Green Knight and is confused, don’t worry it’s supposed to be like that; and no, there’s no explanation as to why it’s like that.*

[@qownsqud3207]

For me, the point of that scene that spins slowly before coming upon a skeleton is actually genius to me. Its to show the passage of time and Gawain is thinking about what would happen if he were to just stay there. And hes envisioning himself rotting in the same place until he is a skeleton set to die there. Thats why he suddenly takes action. I think one of the primary strengths is that it does not feel the need to explain itself. Some will get it, most will not

[@sedovt]

I think Overly Sarcastic Production explained the Arthurian Literature best: "It's a bunch of tumblr authors collabing with each other and adding their own OCs."

[@ArktechFilms]

The ending to the movie just felt so fucking satisfying, wow

[@sillygoose4472]

Not a single sword fight and it is the coolest thing I've seen in years

[@TwistedTeaFate]

I really loved the cinematography and the sound design of the movie overall. Like even setting aside the plot, the camera shots and the music was so enjoyable for me. Also I liked how weird the story was, like it wasn't one plot it was like a string of little stories.

[@BaldorfBreakdowns]

This was one of the most surreal movies I've ever seen.

[@agbaya5314]

I’m so hyped to see this film. The trailer slayed me

[@twicel5457]

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[@Nikocado.Avocado]

JACKS DAD IS IN HEAVEN

[@wisco9er536]

The trailer is nothing like the movie. It's more quiet and very little drama

[@fabiangarcia1790]

@@wisco9er536 really isn’t anything like the trailer

[@surton91]

I walked out of the theatre half way through from sheer boredom. Trailer really hypes it up but it's nothing like the trailer.

[@earthwingbomber]

The 360/720 shot is unironically amazing. Literally one of my top 3 scenes of the film. The technically best shot of the year, the musical score is perfect, and it escalates the ambiguity and moral conflict of the film. 10/10 would spin again.

[@aliteralflamingpileofgarba6236]

A lot of the more vague messages in the movie tie in a lot with old traditions. It used to be, if someone challenged you, you accepted or permanently faced the shame of refusing an honest challenge. Old times were weird lmao

[@lddevo88]

That 720° panning shot you described as being agonizing was actually one of my favourites in the film. Really makes you question the reality of what's happening which is very much in line with Arthurian mythos its based on, as others have pointed out. Glad you appericiated the film otherwise, as I have.

[@TASFaustiago]

I find it funny he mentioned “honor” when the main actor played prince Zuko in the live action atla movie

[@RoyalGuardEziode]

I just saw this movie and i loved it. I love how open it is to interpretation and it just gives you a bunch of puzzle pieces that you have to put together yourself. Kinda like "I'm thinking of ending things"

[@alexlei2235]

Pretty sure charlie doesn't really read comments, but I'd like to say some things about his spoiler discussion and gripes, so spoilers ahead: I really enjoyed the movie. Wasn't expecting such a psychological journey for a very flawed and vulnerable Gawain. The Gawain in the poem was already accomplished and known to be honorable, highly contrasting this film's Gawain. The journey was also never elaborated in detail in the poem. Almost everything Gawain goes thru in the film is original except maybe the lord's castle. In regards to Gawain's mom's motives, you're right, there isn't a lot of hard evidence, and the best speculation is that she wanted her son to become a legend like the knights he sees at the royal banquet, which is why the film first portrayed him as very frivolous. He's anything but a mature knight, but he is desperate for any chance to prove himself, which is why he recklessly accepted the green knight's challenge, not knowing what it would entail. The reason why everybody came to know him during the year of downtime plays into the core message of this take on classic hero epics: gawain's match against the green knight was spread, and due to most people not ever seeing it happen, stories and legends are spun. People's imaginations run wild. It doesn't matter if the green knight was famous beforehand or not. By creating a scenario where a knight fights some sort of enemy, the people become captivated. The inconsistencies and disappearing people in his journey intentionally make you question whether it's real, Gawain is tripping, or the people's exaggerated stories are kind of bleeding into the narrative. Whatever the case, Gawain was not ready for this journey at the start and didn't attain his sense of honor until the end. Legends speak of great heroes performing great deeds, but behind this hodgepodge of different canons and narratives, there's only men or women struggling in life. This is not the first time the director has done retellings of old tales like this, so the message is pretty clear.

[@J___0926]

I wish more people reviewed this when it came out. It was a real treat for 2021

[@499predator]

I think a lot of Charlie's gripes in the spoiler section of this video can be explained with the key focus of the film. Honor and dishonor. Spoiler talk ahead: No one turned down the Green Knight's challenge because he had the audacity to storm into King Arthur's court on Christmas day and challenge the King's knights to a challenge. This is like running into someone's house today and slapping the head of their family while they're serving dinner. You just don't do that. So to regain honor in the situation, Gawain jumps in to spare King Arthur from being the one who has to reclaim the honor. I believe this is a little more clear in the actual written story. The whole story itself is about honesty and keeping your word, otherwise it wouldn't be such a big deal that Gawain is traveling to certain death waiting for him at the Green Chapel. NOTHING was stopping him from turning around and running away at any point in his journey besides his own need for honor. Which is why I think the story itself is so powerful and I'm really glad it got made into a movie. Though I do agree some stuff is left a bit more ambiguous, I think if you read the story, you can draw the parallels a little easier.

[@gutterbaby8382]

I'm a lot more forgiving of slower films that deliberately move at a meditative pace, so I'll probably like this

[@marcus_ohreallyus]

I like my kinetic, bombastic action moves...but I can also appreciate a movie on the opposite end of the spectrum, like this one. If it chooses to be slow, then be slow and I will be mesmerized by that. The Assassination Of Jesse James had the same effect on me. There can be just as much (if not more) happening in a very slow scene compared to a scene full of action and blah blah blah. Also, I really appreciate the balls a director has to just let the camera look at something for a long time, whether it's a look on actor's face or just a landscape. It's bold. If you get off on those kind of movies, then yes you will LOVE this. There's a lot going on in the Green Knight if you pay attention and just let it happen to you.

[@spiderdude2099]

I loved the ancient medieval myth this story is based on. I’ll have to give this a look.

[@twicel5457]

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[@MeanLaQueefa]

It sucks, don’t see it in theaters

[@Onyxiate]

Charlie: “This film gave me a headache.” Also Charlie: “This film is fantastic.”

[@HellsPenguin1599]

It gave me a headache and I couldn't decide if I enjoyed any of the movie.

[@garyying3147]

The sheer modesty in this video. Jesus just admitted that "The Green Knight" existed before him.

[@yellowsnowman3758]

The Green Knight sounds familiar for some reason

[@aweeb8848]

@Chill man Stop asking for views. Nobody cares

[@luthien47]

@@yellowsnowman3758 it's an Arthurian poem

[@just_a_teen_2353]

@@aweeb8848 exactly

[@DrGandW]

@@yellowsnowman3758 They referenced it in late Adventure Time lol

[@12xumk59]

I loved the long shots!!! Such an immersive, beautiful movie to Gawk at. Each scene, vibrant and mysterious, really established the mood of reading an old classic poem.

[@Arklust]

It was like a lsd trip that turned out better that you expected it to, I know some people didn't like the movie because it was slow and stuff but I actually really liked it and would recommend it if you like ambiguous open ended movies

[@twicel5457]

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[@nikhildabas2685]

as a Indian actor who aspires to be in hollywood. salute to Dev Patel what a fucking performance.

[@tastycookiechip]

Why was an Indian playing King Arthur tho?

[@nikhildabas2685]

@@tastycookiechip mate he was not playing King Arthur he was playing gwaine

[@creed22solar123]

@@nikhildabas2685 makes sense.

[@nocomment2842]

I actually really like the spoiler section, it really helps to understand what it's about

[@iergosum]

About the Green Knight being there, I think it’s important to know that many, many mythological stories don’t have logical beginnings. It’s something the movie could have expanded on, definitely, but most stories were passed on for the lessons at the end. So the movie kind of went for the archaic storytelling that hasn’t thought everything through, they were just preoccupied with what the audience at the time wanted to hear, which was the story of Gawain’s honor. I’d actually argue that the original story of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight was more informative about what was going on, what the motivations were, etc than the movie was, which is odd and kind of regressive in a storytelling sense. I think the movie did a good job telling a medieval mythological tale as medieval people would have experienced it (again, in a storytelling sense, obviously they didn’t have the medium of movies) but even the source material made more sense in this very specific case which makes it a very odd movie. I agree with most of what you said about the movie, but I think knowing the original story would make it lower than 80% moistness because of how much was missing. However, it was a powerful film, they did a lot of good, I still like the movie a lot. Just wanted to throw out an interesting topic of discussion in my opinion.

[@gramthemaybe1115]

I always thought that gawain's mother summoned the green knight for king Arthur, so that he's killed indirectly and her son could be king

[@GorillaHeck]

I thought she wanted Gawain dead so when Arthur died she could be in control, unless there's anther person in line I'm not aware of

[@Gizzgy]

@@GorillaHeck you can just read the original poem or like a synopsis from a wiki. She definitely didn't want her son dead.

[@slixnoir]

You missed the part with the weird ass giants who scream for some reason, and when he jizzes on the enchanted belt, and when he kisses the hunter dude (forgot his name)

[@jalves6494]

This movie is pretty damn amazing , felt like 2001 A Space Odyssey meets Lord Of The Rings

[@twicel5457]

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[@elijahx2784]

The one from 1968 or from 2018?

[@jalves6494]

@@elijahx2784 1968

[@screwtapee]

Haven’t seen any of those two but from what I’ve heard, yeah

[@MeanLaQueefa]

It’s not a good movie. Cinematography is great, but it failed as a whole

[@endymion3071]

I love the idea of chivalrous knights all going “Nu-uh! We don’t accept your challenge Fae being!” - it would be mad out of character for Arthurian characters lol.

[@markmoa1058]

David lowerys long shots are great. The slow burn really makes you feel the long hard journey he faces. Youd hate his famous pie scene in a ghost story.

[@brandongarcia1349]

Charlie wouldn’t like Bela Tarr films 🤣

[@markmoa1058]

Lol hey different strokes for different folks.

[@fakebird000]

@@brandongarcia1349 esp Werckmeister Harmonies lol

[@deathprocess]

When it comes to the Ghost Story pie eating scene, I absolutely understand the dread it and grieving process it expresses for the female 'lead' but it was still so dreadful to watch, and in some ways many long shots by nature do make many audience goers retreat from the experience and in many ways its a tradeoff the director is clearly willing to make. I found the long shots in The Green Knight far more valuable as the shots were always gorgeous and the set design and costuming, while self admittedly by the director, not always period accurate led to such an engaging and believable period piece.

[@joelb9921]

My interpretation on the mother summoning the green knight is that she wanted her son to be great, but she also didn’t want him to be killed so she gave him the sash that prevented physical harm from coming to him. One of the points (I think) of the movie is that there is no greatness without any genuine risk (maybe no satisfying meaning in life either; think when the protagonist asks, “is this all there is?” To the green knight), maybe because by enduring risk to life and limb you also overcome some critical ‘thing’ within yourself. So tho the mother wanted greatness for her son, she also was part of the problem preventing him from that goal through reducing all risk to life and limb for her son. Some more evidence supporting this is that this type of “holding back” of the son by the mother is a pretty common thing in mythologies and whatnot, and this movie is pretty heavy handed about wanting you to feel like you’re witnessing a myth taking place. At least, that’s how it felt to me

[@arutzuki2491]

That's how I understood it too

[@823jordanr]

Office Greg is the only thing that could've boosted this rating

[@diamondcarsgaming908]

Yeaaaaaqq

[@michaelhenriquez2650]

Saw the movie thought it was alright id give it a 8/10, the mysterious aspects are what kept me in:GK, the talking fox, Giants, the spirit and magic

[@jomaking3608]

Firstest charlie.. Also based on your description.... I'm gonna watch this movie... I wrote this before I heard how much he rates it

[@Kira1Lawliet]

It's weird, because this is one of the first movies I've seen in a long time where knowing the original source material can give you helpful context, but can't be relied on as a means to filling in the narrative gaps because of how much has clearly been changed both in plot and in theme from the original tale. Knowing that the Knight spares Gawain in the original tale doesn't mean you can interpret that to mean that he spares him in the film, because the situation and the context are so different. The movie is very clever with how it parses out which parts to take, which parts to leave, which parts to change, and which parts to create out of thin air to tell a similar story with a very different meaning.

[@BongoBrando]

A friend of mine invited me to the movie and I knew absolutely nothing about it aside from it being a King Arthur tale. I absolutely loved this movie.

[@glassplotful]

Correction about your rant at 6:50 : all that the Green Knight said was that he would deal an *equal blow* to whomever was able to land a strike on him. He mentioned nothing about a beheading. That's why the knights of the round table were genuinely surprised when the Green Knight allowed himself to be killed, and why Gawain initially hesitated to strike him- because Gawain realized the implications of beheading him.

[@henrygreen2096]

My attempt to answer Charlie’s Questions: 1. _Why did his Mum summon the Green Knight?_ I honestly don’t remember that from the original source. He literally just shows up. But I assume she summoned him to test the knights. 2. _Why did they accept the challenge?_ Most likely an honour thing. If someone walks up in your kingdom and challenges the king and his men that’s a huge _‘fuck you’_ and that’s a bit weird to just say no. Imagine other kingdoms find out King Arthur and his men didn’t take that challenge. And plus Merlin did the whole “Dr Strange vision” thing and signalled to Arthur that the Dude is no joke. 3. _Why do people care that Gawain chopped off his head?_ Because it’s just one of the knights of the round table doing anything interesting. It’s like when Logan Paul starts challenging actual boxers to boxing matches. People just talk about it because it’s something to hear.

[@freddymittler8349]

Great comment!

[@varadraigaonkar107]

In the original poem, I don’t think they specified that Morgan le fey is Gawain’s mother but she summons Green Knight to undermine King Arthur’s honor and stability. And she also wanted to kill the queen from shock i think

[@dannycookieguy5992]

having knowledge of the poem helps A LOT when watching this, it fills in many of the thing that ppl might see as plot holes. it has a unique twist with the source material but still.

[@nohbuddy1]

It's such a breath of fresh air from fucking super hero movies. Appreciate real film making

[@poliopoptm4474]

If you didn't like the slowness of this movie, stay away from A Ghost Story by the same director. Makes Green Knight feel like a Marvel movie.

[@Skoringo]

Arthouse films that have low audience score on RT (a crappy website nobody should use as a reference btw) rock! Idc

[@r520jr8]

This is one of the best movies I’ve seen in theaters in a long time

[@rebellion3222]

Nuke's top 5 ghosts caught on streamers camera 1:08

[@kshitijbachhav5332]

i think this comment will get to the top

[@zeo4481]

This movie is more interested in being art than being entertaining and i can respect that.

[@juju-vl7oj]

I loved the long "pretentious" shots. I'm highly into the visual/art aspects of films almost over plots in many cases. To enjoy this film fully I think you have to be very enveloped in the world it exists in and care more about the journey than the destination.

[@maskquerade3236]

It’s ass. There was no fulfillment and ambiguous up its own ass

[@buttlicker7670]

If you're into the visual aspects of film, this must seem like one of the greatest movies of all time

[@tehCostHD]

@@maskquerade3236 you also missed the point my guy. Not all jounrneys are about the destination

[@Imjudah-]

@@tehCostHD that’s what people say to justify their movie being ass and having no satisfaction

[@tehCostHD]

@@Imjudah- cool man. Or you could just not be such a cynical asshole and find the beauty in things rather than hating on eveyrthing you don’t like.

[@KA-gy3lz]

I thought the movie was by far the best movie I’ve seen this year. Dev Patel was incredible

[@ethana4574]

My theory is that since Gawain wasn’t a knight of the round table but is the heir to the throne he needed to be knighted by the kind but needs to prove himself in the 5 virtues of a knight, friendship, generosity, chastity, courtesy, and piety. Which he failed miserably at all of them. It’s a journey of a man who’s a pos and will lead his future to ruin unless he proves himself which I believe he did at the very end when he says one last time that he’s ready to be killed. The game was to land a blow and the same shall be returned in one years time. Gawain slew a defenseless knight which wrong in knighthood, he could’ve given a scratch but he was seeking glory in front of the king, as he already said he had no stories to tell the king. It’s a really great movie and I highly recommend to all especially those who like to think about what they are watching

[@funnywackysillyman7780]

5:41 I think she summoned him so that her son could have a his chance to become great. Kinda goes with the theme of wanting honor.

[@Rigozen]

I think the point of the mother summoning the green knight was to allow for her son to have a story to tell. Just before the green knight first appeared, the king and queen wanted to hear a story from Gwen but he didn't have any stories to tell cause his life was pretty uneventful. So I think the green knight was his easy ticket to find his place among men with legendary stories to tell.

[@jakehobson5698]

I actually fell asleep during that 360 shot

[@Whatismusic123]

This is the only movie I've walked out of the theaters for

[@pRaX85815]

Plot explained: Gawain is filthy casual who skipped through the dialogue.

[@jeremyspivey1253]

He doesn't have to strike him down just land a blow against him he could've hit him or or anything its a critique of how knights saw honor in violence the knight says it will be repaid in equal measure Gawain choose where to be harmed and how it would happen

[@kinetic_krown]

Seriously, the ending to this movie is better than the ending to Avengers Endgame.

[@UrResidentGhost]

Remember reading The Green Night in high school. It was originally written in old English so it’s really hard to understand. But you can listen to it’s original form on KZbin.

[@henrygreen2096]

I remember reading it as well! It was my favourite Arthurian tale and I was super happy it was turned into a film.

[@nidhogg4890]

I’m even more excited to see this now. I’ve read a decent amount about the history and mythology that relates to Gawain’s story and the historical context of it, and I think that’s gonna make this even more interesting to watch. (Also it does explain some of the questions Charlie raises at the end)

[@EC-nn1cx]

I really enjoyed this movie but it definitely had parts that could’ve been explained better. I think when the green knight shows up the closest reason they give for having to accept the challenge is the little look Merlin gives King Arthur.

[@bananas2aday]

In the king arthur mythos, the green knight was there to see if the knights of the round table were still noble.

[@EpicRevies61]

Legends Never Die: An Oral History of ‘The Green Knight’ | Narrated by Ralph Ineson | A24 is a great video explaining everything you need to know before or after watching the film

[@gubbs00]

The girl whose head Gawain retrieves from the spring warns that the Green Knight is someone he knows. Later, the Green Knight takes up some of the mannerisms of the king once they are talking in the chapel, especially the way he wipes dirt from Gawain's face. And in the scene right before the credits roll he directly refers to Gawain as "My brave knight" once he finally decides to follow through. I think Gawain's mother summoned the Green Knight in the image of the King as he is very honorable and he is who Gawain would be replacing as king.

[@CHMgamemedic777]

If moist man don't like slow scenes, he would absolutely hate Twin Peaks

[@palmerstubbs4067]

A movie needs to come out where the main character fails/gets beat by the villain.

[@ThomasJFoolery]

The reason for the "5-minute shot" was to show the aging of the land around Gawain because years were passing by as his body composed. It was hard to see but the ground was changing very subtly. King Arthurs sister is Gawain's mother, Morgan le Fay. She uses merlins magic to test Arthurs knights' loyalty. Gawain volunteers (cousin of Arthur) and then sets off on his journey. he finds the manor and is seduced by the mistress. it's unclear if he nutted but the mother Marry pentangle shield wept so I think he did bust in her sugar walls. In the og story, he didn't leave after nutting and the fox was killed. Gawain kissed Lord Bertilak 3 times and stayed until Christmas Eve. The blind woman in white was his mother. using a conduit. the green knight was lord Bertilak. The Manor was a test and he failed when he took the belt and didn't give it to Bertilak as well as ending the game and fleeing. Morgan le Fay summons the green knight because Arthurs asks for a great tale and she wants to test the loyalty of his Round Table. The knights of the round table are the best of the best. they are all legends as he says. All the details you cant find in the movie are in the original story. That may be a bad thing but I personally like it. You have to know the roots to understand the adaptation. I think they did a great job adapting a poem and a fairytale into a movie while still keeping the feeling of a... poem or fairytale.

[@NinjaHawkins]

>Spoilers< He definitely nutted in the movie, but it was from a handy. She wipes his juice off on his sash belt and says "you're no knight".

[@ThomasJFoolery]

NinjaHawkins in the movie yes it’s clear he busted in the sugar walls. In the og it’s less clear.

[@ChandrahaasMariserla]

@@NinjaHawkins bro 💀💀💀💀

[@Gizzgy]

Gawain is a nephew of King Arthur, not a cousin

[@anthony7960]

I’d give it a 95% but fair enough