Mojang takes on NFTs - Selling Minecraft seeds for £2000

[@ArtisticlyAlexis]

There once was a minecraft NFT, Where you could pay for something that's free. Sense it did not make, And seemed rather fake, But still sold on Opensea.

[@dungeonseeker3087]

And about as rare as Tea?

[@SymbioteMullet]

Soon come the cryptobros to pay and spend and incite FOMO one day when it's all done we'll bring that blockchain home

[@CallumUpton]

i couldnt not pin this LMAO

[@torawashi]

"HODL!" screamed bros from the moon, "The dip will be over quite soon!" But alas, the blockchain made their efforts in vain, And we thought "What a bunch of maroons."

[@tsunderella5826]

This isn't even legal in the first place. Microsoft owns the intellectual property of minecraft. These guys are selling something they dont own the rights to.

[@carlosnieve1225]

It’s crazy how much better of a deal this is than earth 2 because your virtual land’s resources actually do something

[@Archangelm127]

lmao

[@TheLizardKing752]

Truth!

[@crunchyfrog555]

Ah now that's the bottom line isn't it? Perspective. When you have ANY example that offers more value than Earth 2, it demonstrates how piss poor Earth 2 actually is.

[@reed3863]

At least this has a game too

[@AIDSfoot]

This is hilarious 🤣

[@dalehousden1404]

I was pretty scared when I saw Mojang were making a statement about NFT’s, but so pleased they’ve made the right choice

[@akiraokami]

My first impression when I heard they had put out an "Future of NFT" statement was "Oh god no, not Minecraft", glad I actually got to read it relatively shortly afterwards

[@illdeletethismusic]

@Jason Tan Mojang is actively hostile towards the community on the recent issue of chat reporting, pretending to care about feedback but completely ignoring any. They also belittle modders when much of their game has been created or inspired by them. Mojang at one point was a studio standing up for its gamers, but that has long since shifted to the opposite.

[@Brixster]

Here's the best part that nobody is understanding: The world features that are tied to a seed rely on the generator code which changes each time Minecraft updates. What this means is, when the game updates, the generator will change so much that the seeds will eventually generate entirely different worlds (invalidating the NFTs). These are the worst kinds of NFTs because _they won't even work after a few years!_

[@kempolar9768]

So the same as every other NFT image thats hosted on some private server that will eventually be taken down leaving the owner with just a link that goes nowhere?

[@Krzysiekoy]

I don't think anybody cares how the world generation works. All people care about is to buy this, and sell it to some loser at 10x the price.

[@probablythedm1669]

That is hillarious!

[@Brixster]

@@kempolar9768 True that, I can't tell which is worse now

[@duckmeat4674]

@@kempolar9768 wait, I thought nft are usually able to be self hosted like btc or ETH blockchain? Am I wrong?

[@Fishpasta4]

NFT World Devs: "So the plan is that we're going to avoid the inevitable Cease and Desist by 'pivoting' into another Cease and Desist when we try to sell Minecraft under our own name." It's like watching a car crash in slow motion, you want to look away but you just can't help looking to see just how bad it's going to get.

[@fusrosandvich3738]

It's like watching them fly THROUGH the windshield.

[@LikaLaruku]

The funny part is that prior to selling Minecraft to Microsoft, Notch made the game code public as a nice little f**k you gift to them, & nothing is stopping these NFT types from making their own segregated clone game, yet they insist it has to be with the real Minecraft.

[@AlwaysANemesis]

"OK guys, we're going to ramp the car this time"

[@juliawolf156]

They also want to buy a development studio for this project. Yeeeaaah, two problems: 1) Most gamedevs are against NFT projects and 2) with what money? The tokens crashed! The game is over! The death screen says "Don't even bother lest you want C&D letters pop up like Endermen in the End!"

[@JohnSmith-ox3gy]

@@LikaLaruku Cloning a game takes talent and money, there is no way a get rich quick hustler will do actual work for months.

[@Cp-71]

"NOOOOO!!! You can't just screenshot a seed!!!"

[@y337]

HA HA VERY FUNNY. SURE, you can screenshot my seed, and SURE, you can enter it into your own create world page, but it’s NOT YOURS, so will you stop this stupid charade already?? You’re only making a fool of yourself

[@madsmile777]

Screenshot of a seed goes BRRRRRRRRRŔTTTTT

[@zerglinglover2303]

@@y337 perfect reenactment.

[@MelissiaBlackheart]

@@y337 Sure it is. It's on my computer. So it's mine. You don't own it just because you paid some third party registry to put your name on a list of random database entries.

[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

That's... strangely fitting. A bunch of jerk nutjobs obsessed by seeds.

[@kalinkapavlova9398]

I bought my 9yo daughter Minecraft for Christmas last year. So I'm listening to this and wondering... what hell is wrong with cryptobros polluting kid's spaces with their FOMO nonsense?? NFTs do not belong in kid's spaces ever. Not EVER. I do not need my kid's stress levels to rise because she feels like missing out on a piece of media that should be available to everyone in the first place. It's insane.

[@dang.9209]

The weirdly positive silver lining is she's not missing out on anything. At least with the seeds. Morons are spending thousands of dollars to "own" something your daughter and everyone else can access for free.

[@MasticinaAkicta]

They are cryptobros, they lie, they cheat, they steal and they don't care.

[@gilolaes4725]

I applaud your stance, and all I can say is hoo boy you better not let your daughter get anywhere near Roblox.

[@nakano15]

Maybe they think kids need to pay for their expenses.

[@samuellove9619]

@@nakano15 it's the Jebediah EA meme,"you need to pay!" "Pay for what?" "I don't know, just pay!"

[@kaliek5281]

Minecraft seeds can also be figured out by just...looking st screenshots and such. People have found famous streamers worlds seeds by taking stills from streams and analyzing EVERYTHING related to world gen. I wouldn't be surprised if they could figure out these seeds just based on the little preview pic.

[@Lirandil]

I think it should be pretty easy for those people. They even found the seed of a 128 X 128 pixel image (pack PNG)

[@rustkitty]

I love it when parasitic web3 projects get told to stop by the IP owner and their first reaction is to explain how this magically means their host is Not Gonna Make It (tm). It's the most transparent childish culty reaction possible.

[@lordmarshmal_0643]

I mean Mojang/Microsoft is already partially digging their own grave with an upcoming update to Java (basically, global chat moderation, someone reports a message of yours to Mojang mods and you might get yeeted off _all_ of multiplayer), but I think Mojang sees NFTs as the more crucial thing to worry about for now (and frankly I agree with their notion, as negative as the update is looking to be) - Bedrock players already have to deal with chat/text moderation, so they aren't necessarily gonna lose that part of the player-base to the update, but being even just _neutral_ about NFTs could impact the whole shebang

[@Lenariet]

Not to mention them saying "Eh, we'll just do better than them." The f*ck they will do, they are out of touch with reality as much as one can imagine. And look at their vocabulary. Like "Gamefi". Who the f*ck says that? Certainly not us gamers. I've never heard of that term before. It's just more of those greedy f*cking investors/snake oil vendors who come from entirely different industries trying to milk the more gullible of us.

[@skel9242]

@@lordmarshmal_0643 gee how dare a child’s game has chat moderation 💀 The Minecraft community is gonna get over it in a couple of weeks

[@lack_of_awareness]

@@skel9242 that’s not the issue. The issue is moderating servers that children arent even allowed to go into. Imagine playing it with a couple of friends in a PRIVATE server and being literally fucking banned for swearing at your own friends in a (again) PRIVATE server

[@RedWurm]

Adding Microsoft to the list - below Hasbro - to the list of companies that are inevitably doomed because they don't appreciate the huge benefits of letting some rando use their products to drum up interest for a ponzi scheme.

[@frogpuffin]

Due to the nature of how much WorldGen can change from update to update. In a few versions, those seeds won't even give the "owner" the world they bought anymore unless they play on a specific version. So they're getting ripped off if they're buying the NFT for the actual seed.

[@BKPrice]

And they're probably not buying it for the actual seed. They're buying it for the magical "receipt" which, in their eyes, is the only value they need. People will pay thousands to buy the receipt irrespective of what it points to. It's basically like selling your farts without even trying to capture them. People can "own" the air particles that came out of your ass, but can't really do anything with them, and for some reason they don't care and are able to sucker other people into paying even more for this air that has long since dissipated, because it was never about the fart. It was always about the receipt, the ownership of some imaginary exclusivity.

[@PiousWildcarde]

I'm staggered by the sheer stupidity, honestly. What did they really think would happen?

[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

Step 1:NFT! Step 2:$$$ Step 3 :??? Step 4:Profit! I don't think it's any more articulate than that.

[@DeadNoob451]

@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 Almost correct. Step 1: NFT! Step 2: $$$! Step 3: Pump N Dump. Step 4: Lawsuit.

[@Sniperbear13]

you think they even think?

[@w83official]

@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 forgot step 5: rug-pull

[@jonathanj8303]

@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 the underpants gnomes of Zurich will be in touch. They've been looking for a 4 step programme for years.

[@EvanBear]

We're just glad you're ok, Callum.

[@CallumUpton]

thanks! i aprechiate the kind words

[@APsychicMonkey]

Why is it all NFT clowns sound exactly the same as each other? "Innovation! We just have to buy out someone to actually do all the work! It's totally gonna be great in the future we swear! Hodl, we won't rugpull you we promise

[@virtualworldsbyloff]

Because - there is one (stupid) born every minute - so always new meat for the grinder that haven't heard the script before... I think they are pretty smart, they throw rocks at 100k people and just need to hit 50 to fill their bank accounts

[@faequeenapril6921]

Because they're trying to get people into their scam.

[@Sniperbear13]

its partly because there have been times Innovation is just taking something old and using it in a different way. sadly, those are people who are blinded by greed and don't understand this isn't innovation, its just trying to profit off old ideas while calling it new.

[@harleyjune]

Cult mentality I guess

[@treyjordan3168]

PT Barnum was Right

[@dracopug]

Okay selling map packs for Minecraft is one thing, since that takes genuine skill and creativity on the part of the artist... But seeds? The procedural generations that take at most 10 clicks to make? Ridiculous, lol.

[@uglybad4]

What's even funnier is that seeds aren't even consistent between all versions of Minecraft. Every time there's changes made to world gen, the same seed ends up generating an entirely different landscape. For an extreme example, try generating a world with a seed in Beta 1.7, then use that same exact seed in the newest version; it won't even be recognizable lol

[@dracopug]

@@uglybad4 fuck, it's worse than I thought xD

[@Archangelm127]

The only thing sadder than somebody gleefully selling a box of nothing is somebody gleefully buying a box of nothing.

[@elixwhitetail]

If you think about it, it makes sense to NFTbros. They've already internalized paying ridiculous amounts of cash to have the feeling that they "own" a string of numbers.

[@klutterkicker]

There could be an argument to be made that finding great seeds takes time and effort, and in some cases seeds are even "created" to fulfill certain properties (like trying to find the launcher background maps). However Mojang ultimately has control over everything Minecraft and are within their rights to say "you can't sell this." Also, exclusivity / speculation / FOMO sales should be kept away from children, period.

[@Blisterdude123]

I'm genuinely fucking fascinated by what metric these cryptobro boneheads think leeching off a system they don't own to sell and monetise features others have access to is a step forwards in innovation and would have positive downstream effects for developers, businesses, and customers, in the long run.

[@sunnydong9069]

The more I hear about how these "web3 projects" operate, the more I understand the statement that crypto's existing philosophy is to starve public service. These people think that the way to move society forward is to monetize everything, turn everything in our life into a stock market where you'll have a chance to profit off all of it, to them unmonetized public resource is a backwards way of doing things that they can't fathom other people actually wanting, because to them free public service have no way to "retain value". These are some of the most toxic brainworms I've ever seen in people, and I'm horrified of the future that they're trying to make happen.

[@Blisterdude123]

@@sunnydong9069 You know what the real sad truth is? I think that a lot of that is actually just obfuscation. Like, that's an overcomplicated take of what is, in reality, very simple. NFTs, Web3, crypto in general, the whole thing is just a sham, a facade, and smokescreen designed to try and disguise what is in essence, just the same old tired pyramid scheme scam as always. Someone wants to sell you nothing, and if you buy it, you need to push it onto others, so you can sell it and get out. And they then need to push it and sell it to get their money and get out. It's all just the most intentionally overcomplicated nonsense, to trick people into thinking there's some 'thing' of substance happening here, when it's just a pyramid scheme.

[@peterhoulihan9766]

No one, they're scammers. They don't give a shit about positive effects they just want your money. This probably took them a few hours to make, then a couple more setting up the bots to trade NFTs back and forth to inflate the price.

[@darrens3]

I love how thousands of year old commerce mixed with 1980s scams can seem to these people as 'innovation'. Literally reinventing the wheel, then slowly realising all of the issues the original creator of the wheel had, instead of just getting a pre-made wheel; dude wheels already exist.

[@NavigatorBR]

14:03 - I need these people to understand, that the last thing ANYONE in history has said is "I want a more complicated interface for interacting with my finances."

[@Marco_Onyxheart]

This is pure genius. Minecraft seeds are obviously fungible and duplicable. You can just type it into the game. The ultimate "don't right click and download". But crypto bros love this shit. So massive profits to be made for people who are into these scams.

[@Sheevlord]

Ahahahaha, holy crap! They really went there! When I thought that NFTs can't get any more lazy and low effort they literally started selling random numbers. The whole thing is a fractal of stupidity. Not only is the whole concept in general silly beyond measure, but every part of it is idiotic. Where do I even begin? With a disclaimer, apparently. I feel like I should admit that I don't play Minecraft (not a fan of directionless sandbox games). Having said that, I feel that I understand how it works just well enough to comment on this issue. If I happen to say something factually wrong - feel free to correct me. So, problem #1. Minecraft seeds have no intrinsic value. Why would anyone (except for people with a terminal stage of brain NFTosis) buy a seed? A seed is just a number used to initialize the procedural generator of the world. So generally speaking any seed is as valuable as any other. Sure - some specific seeds might produce unusual worlds and therefore have some perceived value, but I don't think that these seeds sold as NFTs were chosen for any specific reason. Problem #2. Seeds are no scarce. Not even close. A seed is a 64 bit integer, meaning that there are 18 quintillion (and some change) possible seeds. What is the point of buying them if the supply outweighs demand to an absurd degree? Moreover, there is no way for these unaffiliated randos to prevent others from using the seeds they are selling. I'm pretty sure that you can't even copyright a seed - it's not a creative work. It's a random number spewed out by your PC. This also means that if Mojang didn't shut down this party then someone else could start minting seed NFTs and undercut their prices. Problem #3. When devs change the way their world generation works they break compatibility, meaning that the same seed will produce a drastically different world in the new version. Problem #4. What does it even mean to "own" a seed? What did these people buy exactly? What possible benefit is there to "own" some random seed that is functionally equivalent to any other seed? I wish I could say that I am surprised that so many people bought these NFTs but I am not. There is no idea too stupid for NFT enthusiasts.

[@Azzaciel]

There's an even bigger joke there. You saw that seeds had some tags, right? like land vs water surface area? Any single Minecraft world is so friggin massive, that if you are looking for X thing, your world will have it, you just have to find it. And from the looks of it, they just set the "world" for their fancy pngs to only show X amount of blocks in each direction from that seeds spawnpoint and tagged it according to what can be seen in that area. We're talking about each seed having around 4 billion square KILOmeters of usable area, where 1 block represents 1 meter. For a frame of reference, Earth has a surface area of 1/8th of a minecraft world. By sheer sense of scale, only the seeds that interact with the worldgen in wierd ways, like looping certain features, will have any significant deviation of every seed having statistically the same % of resources.

[@Sheevlord]

@@Azzaciel You're right! This makes the whole thing even more ridiculous. Fractal of stupidity indeed.

[@ronvantende8658]

for point #4, they don't 'own' the seed, if generate the same one (basically impossible with how many possible worlds there are) it doesn't prevent me in any way. and even if there is ownership of a seed it's mojang/microsoft.

[@ratatouille5172]

Only real unique thing I can think of for a seed and how it can be "valuebale" is how its world generation works for speedrunning. But you don't have to fucking buy a nft to speedrun minecraft. Ridiculous.

[@ArchOfWinter]

Are they storing the seed on chain or off chain? 64 bit integer is relatively small compared to any NFT jpeg. They could have at least touted their project as the only NFT series stored on chain in the crappy marketing.

[@BaneHydra]

There is no such thing as NFT/Blockchain gaming. The entire point of the blockchain is its decentralized nature, and video games more complex than a text adventure are never going to run on a blockchain, they will always run on centralized servers which makes the entire concept of "true ownership" null and void. Like yeah, you can own an NFT of some legendary sword, but I as the game dev can still take the sword away from your ingame account that runs on my server, rendering your NFT completely pointless. Play-to-earn and selling ingame assets for real money is all possible in traditional games, there's just a reason nobody does it. It's a scam from beginning to end, the concept has no future, and if anyone truly believes that blockchain gaming is the next big thing they're delusional.

[@jonathanfaber3291]

Not to mention the other problem: being decentralized means that outside of that one game (and maybe any sequels they decide to make for whatever reason) it has exactly 0 value, so it’s only useful to the people who already have it, and who only go to these games to pay-to-earn, which means they only sell and never buy, which collapses the market as a fact of reality. These things will never be anything except a scam or just absurdly bad investment, even for crypto/NFTs

[@LevitatingCups]

Whole idea of NFT is dumb in digital terms, just press ctrl+c ctrl+v and you've funged the fungi out of the non-fungable.

[@skel9242]

There is true decentralization without corporations, without destroying the environment and without not being able to store more than 10 B of data. It’s called P2P and we should definitely bring it back

[@tzxazrael]

i mean i definitely agree... and yet, that hasn't stopped "RMT" (Real-Money-Trading) from being a big problem in almost any moderately popular online game. it's just that now they have a new buzzword to make it seem like it's something new and innovative.

[@Mernom]

@@LevitatingCups The NFT itself is not the picture you just copied. It's the blockchain telling everyone who asks "see this NFT? That dude owns it." The image it self is just something the NFT links to. Very few of them actually store the data on the blockchain itself. So yes, while you can copy paste the content of an NFT, you can't really copy paste the NFT itself. What value does a receipt for itself holds, is a whole other question. (The answer is 'none')

[@remor698]

What I find particularly funny is how quite a few of the attributes these worlds have, which are supposed to make them unique are either common factors for all Minecraft worlds (Salmons, Ship Wrecks and being Multi-Climate, etc) or are not a feature of vanilla Minecraft (Monsoons, Underground Villages and Oil Fields, etc). Not to mention, that these seeds aren't exactly super hard to reverse engineer without buying the NFT. I mean, people have figured out the seed for the original pack png image and deduced the Hermitcraft Season 9 seed based on seeing a tiny cluster of nether roof bedrock with coordinates shown. A rougly 370 x 370 area around spawn, like shown in the collection, is probably easy mode by comparison.

[@mckdogdrums3543]

To have the audacity to be a random to start a project that as you say is like DLC using their assets from that game for their nft scheme is just bewildering. How they'd think it'd be in the best interest by the company to keep it happening and let them keep scamming people out of their money is a bad reflection on the company that allows it. Kudos to Microsoft.

[@XerrolAvengerII]

Callum I hope you realize that everything that is said by cryptobros is meant not to be their honest opinion, but is a statement crafted to increase confidence in their world coin, it's like political statements meant to influence public perception without being transparent

[@rhettorical]

Have you ever seen a stage production of Peter Pan? You know that moment where Tinkerbell's dying, and the whole audience has to chant "I do believe in fairies!" in order for her to stay alive? That's how I feel about crypto.

[@brightonbegole5459]

@@rhettorical That's hilarious, I love that so much

[@heavycritic9554]

Of course. If they don't find someone willing to buy their coin, it's worth zero. Everything about crypto, is trying to find someone who's a greater fool. If you don't find one, you're the greatest fool and you're left holding something that you *_WILL_* lose money on; no exception.

[@r3dr4te963]

Let be more blunt and just say it's a SCAM

[@dang.9209]

@@rhettorical I wonder what the actors would do if the audience didn't play along.

[@yoyi8285]

At around 13:40 Callum looking around for extra objects to facepalm into.

[@CallumUpton]

LMAO, truth!

[@MasticinaAkicta]

So wait, Cryptobros bought a lot of stuff that is free to use... at around $2000 a thing. And it always will be free to use and they never will have any rights to limit others using the same thing. Because they were sold something the seller didn't own. So the usual cryptobro crap

[@damiensadventure]

Yay new content!! Get well soon Callum!!

[@treemover7259]

If he lived in a third world country that forces exorbitant fees on medical procedures they might have done

[@tokumei99]

lmao pay for medical fees in the uk…like what? The £2.60 train ticket to the hospital?

[@damiensadventure]

That's the point they can't do math or taxes, allegedly

[@cryfargamingnanan4772]

@@tokumei99 2.60? where the fuck im England do you live😂

[@khandimahn9687]

I really would like to know why Microsoft hasn't sued that NFT project yet.

[@harleyjune]

They're probably getting ready. The people selling might not have their real identity linked to their sellers account so they may be looking for the real people to sue.

[@kodekristian]

"to outright ban all possible uses of NFTs & blockchain tech within Minecraft feels like a step backwards in innovation" I'd argue that legally preventing scumbacks from stealing, and profiting from, something they do not own, especially via predatory FOMO strategies (that they claim as an exciting feature), and considering the actually owners offer it for free, cannot ever be a step in the wrong direction. It's not the innovation that's gone, it's the public selling of stolen and repackaged assets that's gone.

[@Napa39]

That software that was developed to find Minecraft seeds based on screenshots can totally be used to find the seeds for each of these by just the pictures.

[@djmo0re]

i cant wait to get my exclusive seed, made just for me, unique and one of a kind. cant wait. i'll pick up a couple tiles on earth 2 when that happens. lol

[@CallumUpton]

try "callumupton" you wont be disapointed (or you will, i havent checked it)

[@t20kdc]

@@CallumUpton On Minecraft Beta 1.7.3, it's a nice mixture of desert and mountains. In the "right of sunrise" cardinal direction, there's a nice lake.

[@darthllama1]

Glad to see your back and feeling better. Here is hoping for your continued recovery!

[@MysterAitch]

Stoked to see U back my guy... Hope ur mending well.

[@CallumUpton]

thanks! on the mend now, hopefully not a long road ahead :D

[@TheLizardKing752]

Now they're monetizing single integer values. You can spend 2000 on an integer that's input into a random function. Great.

[@Joemamahahahaha821]

😂😂 great way to put it.

[@MrFlox888]

I'ma mint some Python libraries so only the NFT holders can actually get the output as long as they have the function NFT and whatever input NFT they have. And maybe if the function and input types match it will actually do something. Hope they find out after the money's gone though. 😎

[@TheLizardKing752]

@@MrFlox888 screwMeOverRand()

[@TorIverWilhelmsen]

_Pseudo_ random, thankyouverymuch. (As in, the function will provide the same output for the same input, but it looks random in the end. Also, what it does will change when the algorithm changes.)

[@TheLizardKing752]

@@TorIverWilhelmsen Wow you took a computer science class, go you! Whether or not the algorithm is deterministic is totally irrellevant to my point.

[@irlshrek]

I have to work really hard to get 2000 dollars of spendable money. For them to call this "friction-less tech" is beyond laughable

[@ToppledTurtle834]

It makes sense on their bank accounts. The same people angry about this are the same people abusing duplication bugs on MMO's to sell gold and then angry that they can't make money anymore if the bugs are fixed

[@SliminBlue]

Minecraft isn't in the best spot right now, 1.19 didn't go over well with delayed features and 1.19.1 is looking to really mess with Java Edition servers with the chat reporting stuff, but this at the very least is a win. It's a HUGE power move when the single most successful game of all time pretty much condemns NFTs and crypto in its current state, and I can't help but respect Mojang's common sense here when so many other Triple A developers are money hungry enough to embed NFTs into their games (Ubisoft why are you like this). I saw someone say something along the lines of "This is just like when people tried banning books, it just makes everyone want to get into it even more" and I just don't understand the logic there because you can actually gain something from reading a book while buying NFTs has like a .01% chance at best of making even a cent of profit for the average person. Minecraft is the most successful game ever. It does not need to do anything other than provide more updates every year-ish to continue to be the most successful game ever. Mojang understands that and I can only hope Microsoft does as well. also you can EASILY tell how little these people care about Minecraft, at 11:03 they say "Minecraft studio" instead of Mojang when literally the first thing you see when starting up ANY version of Minecraft is the Mojang logo, I guarantee you these guys have never played Minecraft in their life

[@conradmyers1925]

Man. Im gonna fart to Audacity and try sell that out as an NFT. Idk, it's surely a odd world nowadays.

[@w83official]

then I'll start working on KZbinr NFT's! interested in buying C. upton for 5K$?

[@AutraxD]

Also, so absolutely amazing how smoothly you became a well known content creator. I hope you're proud. Your first video being acknowledged by Josh and creating so many contacts for you.. impressive!

[@PrismaticaDev]

Great statement from Mojang, hopefully major companies follow their example!

[@defaulted9485]

Thank god for SalC1 and his community that able to reverse engineering a seed to be publicly available which made NFT Minecraft Seed already Fungible and Invalid.

[@ultgamercw6759]

I don't understand how this could even happen. Do they just sell you a picture of a Minecraft world and provide you with the seed to type in you can get from any website? Or are these like custom maps with extra content such as buildings or dungeons to explore kind of like mods but turned into an NFT for some reason? Regardless of which it is I genuinely don't understand why anyone would want this. Minecraft has had endless world and seeds along side amazing mods for over a decade.

[@LordOOTFD]

Someone should extract all of their seeds and publish them.

[@mat99134]

@@LordOOTFD You can invalidate the current batch this way, but the amount of possible combinations is so ungodly that they'll just generate more. I recommend looking up videos about the search for menu screen world seed (the background is based on actual in-game seed, if you had the seed, you could find the landscape and play on it).

[@Sonlirain]

5:16 I believe it means "It's going down but if you buy it now while it's down and Mojang acknowledges the project it might skyrocket in value (and earn you a ton of money)."

[@TheIrishTurtle]

There was a similar thing with something called gridcraft. And they posted a similar thing on their discord. Looks like a tonne of these projects have shit the bed realised how screwed they are. And said oh were all discussing it between other projects to find solutions and asking mojang to clarify what these changes mean for us. (Knowing full well it means they are done) and 90% of them seem to think they can just move the project to a new 'minecraft like game' it's proper madness. Though it's hilarious to watch them all grasping for anything to maintain their income stream.

[@krs4395]

Two Lessons. Never Speculate in a Market you don't understand. Never Speculate.

[@lewisrichardson4483]

Truly thought Callum was going to show the clip of Friends where they are trying to move a couch up some stairs. Where the couch gets stuck and Ross starts yelling “Pivot!!”

[@BKPrice]

Definitely a missed opportunity. PIVOOOOT!

[@HoldOffHunger]

"We called our token 'WRLD', because we thought 'WHRL', as in 'whirling down the toilet,' would probably already be taken."

[@danielmagers7382]

If the minecraft community can figure out the seed of the main menu, they could easily figure out what all these seeds are and post them somewhere.

[@HolyGarbage]

The best part of this is that what you store on the block chain is public, the secret part is just the key required to move ownership of it, so you should in theory be able to find the seed of any of these worlds from inspecting the block chain. So ownership doesn't mean anything, it wouldn't even mean gaining exclusive access to a seed. Disclaimer: might be wrong on this, not super knowledgeable on the subject. Please correct me if so. :)

[@RisingRevengeance]

I play minecraft daily and I can easily say no one who actually plays the game would pay for a seed

[@ensignphil]

I can see that some seed would have value, with particular features, spawn near a village for example. That would maybe have a £10 value and would loosse all value as soon as someone published it publicly. It is only a number after all.

[@BKPrice]

@@ensignphil It would also lose all value whenever Mojang put out a big update that changed the world generation, which they do frequently.

[@snrd3r]

13:48 gotta love "friction-removing tech for gamefi" like even they can't pretend they're more than just middlemen that make games pointlessly expensive

[@snapturtle3253]

it worth to mention most of the NFT transaction happends from a person that in the same circle.the money keeps circling around among themselves to makes the blockchain looks like its sold like a hotcakes. the moment another person outside of their circle bought it because of the illusion they created, thats when they start profiting

[@AutraxD]

I've been binging on your content for a couple days, they're awesome when trying to sleep. Nice voice, relaxing, no sudden loud noises.. perfect. Really hoping for some long (40mins+) !! You've really made me interested in learning to develop games for fun. I'm trying to learn through looking at others blueprints but I must ask, what is the best way to learn.. to follow tutorials say on unreal 5 using assets provided??

[@sintrafalgar2986]

"16°C Cloudy" I know the Video is about something but that part is all my melting Brain can think about lol

[@randomviewer896]

Would it not be possible to reverse engineer the seeds they are using to generate the jpegs on minecraft worlds?

[@sir_slimestone3797]

With a program that runs through seeds looking for ones that satisfy certain criteria and enough time you could find the seed

[@justinwhite2725]

I saw this article being shared on twitter. I didn't understand what sparked this, so thanks for covering it.

[@KrisRogos]

The delusion runs deep in the WRLD community... even if MS and Mojang decided to include NFTs, and even if for some reason they would take away a core mechanic of the game and replace it with NFTs, instead of adding something actually new... What on earth would make anyone think that WRLD would be the company they would go with? MS would get nothing from that deal and would have to fulfil obligations made to people who had not paid anything to MS for doing that. Crypto and NFTs could have their place, but people would have to start thinking about them logically first.

[@randall5411]

Since we can't sell Minecraft Seeds because of copyright we'll just COPY the copyrighted material instead and continue selling our NFTs its genius! Nothing could go wrong!

[@ladyteruki]

"You own the thing we want to piggyback on ; if we really, really can't convince you how good that is, we'll just copy your intellectual property and try again elsewhere. I am very intelligent". I'm fascinated with people who really, really want to own things, and profit off them... but don't understand the concept of intellectual property. The cognitive dissonance must give them headaches daily. I'm glad to see you're doing fairly well considering the circumstances ; please take care :) PS : I don't play Minecraft, can I have a seed from another game ? :P

[@aaaarchy]

OK where's my seed? Liked, subbed, and commented. Straight to the moooooon with this one! Financial freedom here I come!

[@cyber_dragon_123]

Even if they were allowed to survive, the cryptobroes would start suing them every game update when they find out that terrain generation changes.

[@TheKindKitten]

NFTs suck :3x

[@voxicore]

Worlds NFT team: Buy our seeds that are 100% unique and absolutely not guessable by anybody for a game we don't own its WoRtH iT BrO!! Minecraft team: bans all selling of free content Worlds NFT team: The fucking audacity These people are so deluded, oh my god. At this point I don't even care about the NFTs as a thing themselves, its the lunacy of the people behind them.

[@SwampDweller10]

Its like setting up a stand offering free cakes to anyone interested, only to have Allen from down the road taking some stock and trying to sell it right next to you! Then he complains when you tell him off 😂😂

[@AnesuC]

I just want to point out I hear people just lump all the decentralised "technologies" like web3 etc as bad based on the NFT etc crowd. The reason I point this out is that there are many applications that aren't remotely on the forefront that most people don't know are being used because they aren't news worthy. That is why I kind of die inside as a developer whenever I hear people lump it all together. For example, I am working on video sharing site, and it is only possible because of the seriously cheap storage not owned by a single company from a decentralised storage infrastructure. It's the fact that I can work on something that can handle petabytes of storage without breaking the bank and the need of selling out to financially bootstrap the whole thing to even just get started. I think this is just one of the advantages that almost no one knows about because it's not flashy and no need to cover it and gets completely overshadowed by the crazy and pathetic uses of a lot of these technologies. This is just one of which I am using, I am pretty sure there is others. Even though I fully disagree with whatever these people are doing, the constant negative coverage does stifle innovation on something that allows people with almost nothing to build things with. I understand the downsides (that is a seperate discussion because I have just included all of these technologies under a single ambarella) but the point is, I don't have to rely on Google or Amazon and that to me is pretty good. Because right now we are very close to a monopoly if not already there on online data storage services for developers, which is literally only Google, MS and Amazon.

[@Murphy5-5]

So far, what i got out of NFTs is that they make something digital, which needs to be "developed" but not produced per piece and yet some people want to make it scarce as if it was made per piece and what makes it scarce isn't even the product (like the image) itself, just the string behind it, telling you its yours. Why do people still think, that this makes any sense? Why do people think, that the world needs that?

[@virtualworldsbyloff]

NFT - NO FUTURE TRANSACTION

[@macrograms]

1990s me: people will buy anything 2020s me: people will pay extra for nothing.

[@blackroberts6290]

What Minecraft meant is that server admin can charge for simply entering the server, can it be a 1 time payment or monthly access. But the "same experiences" line meant microtransactions are barred ('VIP' access and the likes which would make a basic player's experiences be different from those of VIP's and whales). That is why The Horizon yt channel is on the right being the Minecraft police lmao.

[@UlshaRS]

This is up there with the guys who tried to trademark the word THE.

[@morpheus_uat]

well at the very end Mojang said "However, we have no plans of implementing blockchain technology into Minecraft **right now**." they are leaving the door a little open, you dont know when those shareholders will demand NFT on minecraft

[@Azzaciel]

Eh, more like they're leaving the doors open for the small possibility that eventually something actually usefull comes out of NFTs, but until then they aren't going to hold their breaths. They're thinking: "Maybe something worthwhile will come out of this at some point, and if it actually does, we want to have the option of going there." Typical corporate speak of never 100% cutting off possibilities.

[@morpheus_uat]

@@Azzaciel bold of you to assume that something usefull can come out of NFTs

[@Azzaciel]

@@morpheus_uat I don't. But they're keeping the theoretical option open.

[@antonjohansson3819]

Notch memoirs has a segment close to the end where he has to ban the pay2win stuff on servers because he kept reciving mail and email from parents. Do agree with right to charge some kind of fee.

[@hanneskarlbom6644]

I kind of want to see how Callum will deal with hackers/bots, that are all too common in MMOs, in his game. Considering his view on this kind of stuff and his intense spite.

[@heychazza]

Got recommended this video by KZbin, cannot agree more how silly NFTs are, and I'm glad that Mojang went forth and did this. Those NFTWorld guys are panicking clearly, but a "Minecraft clone" they are planning to make won't go anywhere. They're stuck in this bubble...

[@Just1Dev]

There are people who just make shaders for minecraft and earn 100 thousand a month on patreon...really crazy^^

[@anubarak9184]

Callum only briefly touched on my favorite part of this, so I wanted to mention it here: THE "NF" IN "NFT" STANDS FOR NON FUNGIBLE WHAT PART OF A MINECRAFT SEED IS NON FUNGIBLE?! THEY DO NOT EXIST ON YOUR OWN SERVER OR A BLOCKCHAIN PRIMARY SCHOOLERS CAN DUPLICATE THEM MY RIGHTCLICKING AND SELECTING "copy" WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK

[@anthillmobstars]

Many years ago a friends uncle stopped into his nephews jewelry store. He asked "What's with the line around the CVS across the street?" His nephew replied "Oh the new Beanie Babies are in." Being older he immediately replied "Beanie Baby? What the hell is a beanie baby? His nephew laughed "They're collectables. People pay big money for them. The new ones are out today." His uncle paused and shook his head saying "Doesn't anyone collect money anymore?"

[@antondovydaitis2261]

Watch out! The next big thing will be "Crypto Babies."

[@greenhowie]

I love this channel but there's always an advert for a new NFT project in the midrolls and I swear those ads are getting lazier at pretending it's anything other than gambling based on FOMO.

[@endymallorn]

The funny thing about this is, hashing out Mine* world seeds or *craft world seeds, curating them, and selling that information, seems like an acceptable art project to me. Figuring out world seeds that would work best for a fixed-seed speedrun, for instance; or that have interesting or semi-unique material caches or mob groups. I could see plunking down a few bucks and saying, “Thank you for your effort”, and then having sold that one interesting seed, they stop selling it, and I can then advertise that I have a server with a unique seed. That sounds like the same process here, except that my intention is to use the thing which I have paid for, and don’t believe I “own” it.

[@TropicalFun]

Other NFT projects like Gridcraft seem to be operational, but I wonder if they'll make their own version of Minecraft or partner with NFT Worlds, because the overall crypto movement are still positive that web3 services like NFTs and the blockchain are a worthy technology.

[@freya1548]

Honestly? Mojang/MS should just sue them anyway for theft of intellectual property with intent to distribute; that is basically what this is/was. I would take great pleasure in watching MS bury them.

[@draculactica]

oh god, one of their backup plans is to make their own minecraft clone. better keep an eye out for the inevitable kickstarter (or, more likely, indiegogo campaign with flexible funding)

[@harleyjune]

They'll release NFT's of each block and you're the only one on the server with the ability to craft that block and then sell it to other players, but each craft costs real money via microtransactions and mining uses up a limited stamina resource you wait a day to refill

[@draculactica]

@@harleyjune block type: grass resources generated: grass Price: $10,000.00

[@Asin24]

The funny thing is, the only reason I think they even did this against NFT is how widely unpopular their chat moderation/reporting feature is and the amount of pushback they had for it being put into the Java version. It ended up forcing them to do anything they can to get some free positive PR.

[@harleyjune]

Great video Callum, keep up the awesome content (at your own pace obviously, hope you're doing well with the arm)

[@Revanbzn]

They are even lying in the images there is no oil, no distinguishing between different water.

[@dakat5131]

The NFT people keep coming up with these schemes where they outright steal art, and then when they get called out on it or asked to stop they act like they were doing the artist or IP holder a favor and are entitled to keep profiting off of it. But what they're really doing is stealing money from the people who actually make stuff. And then they have the audacity to call themselves the only true source of innovation- despite that nothing they do is innovative nor helpful.

[@ColinTimmins]

“We have been called out guys! Pivot! We will pivot and head towards a new scheme!” … “Arr, the waters have become rough, and our boat has taken on water but we will survive if we pivot right! Arr…”

[@christianstonecipher1547]

What Callum didn't go into is that it's not specifically selling the seed, it seems they believe that a minecraft server constitutes a metaverse, and by buying one of 'their worlds' then you can build a metaverse on their 'connected, multi-metaverse system'. Other gems that truly show that they 'really' know what they are doing. They claim to have a 'portal system' that lets people travel to different 'worlds'(hereafter referred to what they actually are servers), now normally that wouldn't be that big of an idea and is possible, except for the fact that the server owner is able to add in mods which, I quote, "allows popular Minecraft games like "Hunger Games", First person shooter mods, RPG type mods, and pretty much anything you can imagine." Which to anyone not in the know, mod changes require game restarts along with needing the mods to be downloaded in the first place, additionally, minecraft does not have a smart mod loading system so any .jars placed in the mods folder will be loaded. So to switch to a server with a different mod load order, you would need to quit the game, change the contents of the mods folder, restart the game, and then load into the server. Additionally, they claim to have "a packet bridging layer that allows cross-platform play between Minecraft Java edition & Bedrock edition." Which makes 0 sense especially since they admit that they require mods to be installed(what I talked about above was the fact that the server owner could add additional mods) where as bedrock edition has add-ons instead of mods and they are 2 different things.

[@dragoneatery]

Oh man, I want an official Callum Upton Minecraft seed.

[@at_]

I find this hilarious, there's so many seeds it's basically infinite, a single seeds holds no value except in some extreme edge cases where it might be used for something like speedrunning within the set seed catagory (for example a seed with a village at spawn and an end portal with 12 eyes pre filled in), you have to show yourself setting the seed and world settings at the start of a submission to be valid anyways so they would become public if you were to ever use these. These seeds however are extremely rare and that's not the seeds they are selling, the seeds they sell are totally random seeds to which you can find a very close equivalent to within probably less than 10 minutes of searching so unless you value your time at 15 thousand dollars an hour these are useless. There's even programs to reverse engineer a seed if you so desperatly want the exact one they list which can get the seed from this render they conveniently show on their site, this is basically the equivalent of right click saving an nft. The only people buying these are crypto bros who have way too much money and think this has value because minecraft is so popular. Skins are equally stupid as someone can just go to your username on a site like namemc and dowload your exact skin for free because skins are in the minecraft api.

[@5minutemovies977]

Why the hell would I pay for content that's already freely accessible in the game by default, furthermore paying people that don't legally and morally have no rights to sell what they are selling ? 🤣 NFTs are just a way for greedy people to make quick money on anything (in theory), even when they are not involved directly in the sales.

[@alexmcd378]

At the very beginning of the video, I was thinking "You know, $1.40 isn't terrible for buying a curated world seed for an interesting world... Oh.. That's Eth, not dollars".

[@LordMidichlorian]

At 3:10 I got a realization. Independence Day was a premonitory film about the cryptobros invading gaming to leave it barren like a plague of locusts.

[@othtorpotato9960]

In bold on the article, "NFTs are banned!" NFTWorlds: "What could this possibly mean? Its going to take weeks of discussion with Mojang to figure out this cryptic message!"

[@casgirlsam]

i've been keeping an eye on this since me and my friend came across it in the mc tag on twitter. we've been ???? in between bouts of laughter since. and that was like 6 months or so ago we came across it. was wondering when mojang was going to say something because yeah no it's not only dumb as hell but at LEAST legally questionable

[@BKPrice]

I think the point that a lot of us miss is that these people aren't in this to actually use the thing that is the NFT. They couldn't care less if it can be used for free or replicated. What they care about is their fictional "receipt." It could point to a pile of poop for all they care, they just thrive on the circle jerk of idiots selling things that are worthless in the real world to each other to make more of their imaginary money.

[@darksidegryphon5393]

In 5:15, the bottom post says: "$WRLD I think that Minecraft is an incredible project, a shame using a horrible coin with a trash ecosystem."

[@shaynegadsden]

They never had issues with people charging for server access the problem was servers locking then selling access to ingame items

[@ornji]

no doubt in my mind that every new *coin comes with its own group of early adopters dropping a tenner on it, firing up the army of bots to ramp the hype and price, and then cash out immediately

[@intruder313]

Good to see Mojang slapping down this crap

[@thesebi]

yeah.... those NFT guys remind me of something else... I'm moderating in facebook group related to 3d models... we have a strict "no advertisement"/"no commercial" rule ... we removed a post trying to advertise and sell models and then got a complaint, that we are "ruining his business" ... wtf... greed apparently blocks logical thinking in some brains ...

[@robertkerr4199]

Yes! A free Minecraft seed! Gimme Gimme!!! I like your content, its very informative. Keep up the good work.