Money, Time, Purpose: Why People Quit Academic Medicine & What It Takes To Stay

[@carpo719]

I always instantly click when I see a Vinay video. We appreciate your candor my friend. The more doctors and scientists who get censored and silenced, the quicker we get them on the side of the truth

[@learnpowerfully]

“Most research is not true. Even less of that research is useful. And yet what we really need right now is research that is true and useful” - Vinay ‘the boss’ Prasad

[@KeithStrang]

Amen.

[@Naynay1160]

Yes amen

[@joetoe9207]

Please credit John Ioannidis for that conclusion.

[@joetoe9207]

And Paul Glasziou

[@kenc8359]

Thank you for your courage in articulating your thoughts. If there's one thing the past 2 years has taught me, my health and well being are my own responsibility, and when they say to "trust the science", there's good science and bad science. I've become very cautious of the mainstream narrative, the authorities, big pharma, so called experts and scientists. The system is corrupt and full of inept and unethical players. Keep up your great work.

[@brettanderson6743]

I think as a society our biggest problem is greed. It has become what is best for me. It used to be what is best for the patient, coworker, family member, neighbor, etc. The fabric of society is caring for each other. Little wonder we see it unraveling before our eyes.

[@bradyjansen3023]

Greed is second to envy

[@carylrobinson2352]

It is all about the money and what the financiers want them to say!! They were put between the rock and the hard spot and didn’t have enough guts to stand up to the establishment!! They let us all down!! Thank you Dr. Vinay for telling us like it is!!

[@wolfgangselle3272]

Sure now they make money with the testing .. with the vaccine the make billions now withe the testing they make trillions

[@RobinMotley.BlessedOldBird]

In most any "job" there is greed (money) and pride (power). But there is a difference between a job - task (replaceable) versus vocation (mission driven). The inner strength to drive, survive and thrive may be based on profit...but the greater good of another person is a higher call. I think many have lost that, working towards a greater good.

[@mis4241]

Thank you Dr Prasad for always saying what must be said

[@Designsy-wl9nr]

Mr. Vinay "One Take" Prasad creating great content again! I love listening to your thoughts! Thank you =).

[@pointshealthcoaching8474]

It's sad that anyone profits off other people's illnesses especially when prevention should be the primary focus. Love VP, he has a depth of integrity and with that the expectation that ppl stand for something more critical.... awesome brother.

[@Meonyoutube-369]

I just found your channel recently and I’m very happy I did. You say exactly what needs to be said and I have enjoyed every video of yours that I have watched.

[@Annie-lu5rt]

Doc, I personally thank you for having the courage to speak truth. I had a nightmare experience during the last 2 years of my handicapped son's life. He passed in Feb. 2020. Nothing to do with covid. It had to do with a broken nightmarish, authoritarian medical machine. It is way more broken & I'm going to even say neglectful, uncaring, lazy & even stupid than people realize. I was with him nearly around the clock during this time. The mistakes & neglect I stood against were too much to list here. It was glaring & I could have won a lawsuit. The only thing I would not be able to re live the horror of it all in the courts. Money won't bring him back or even change the system for the better Thanks to them this old girl lives with a broken & shattered heart over what they did to my son. My best advice is take really good care of yourself so that you do not need the medical profession. Because it isn't one bit humane or even efficient.

[@angelariley5403]

Annie, so sad for you. My daughter had a stroke, misdiagnosed as migraine headaches.💗

[@diggermcleod5630]

We have become a much more needy society, generally. Academics have seemed to me to be driven by a nepotism-like process,. which favors "elite" grads, which is itself a result of nepotism. Now, we're seeing academia driven by "diversit", which means skin color means more than quality. And if you know you're only real qual is pigment, you're gonna need a LOT of reassurance. People like Fauci are allowed to reach their level of incompetence by being better at political maneuvering then they will ever be at medicine.

[@Naynay1160]

This is why I have needed a REAL Doctor since 2012. I have suffered medical PTSD to the point I cannot even make an appointment 🙃 😫 😒 or drive by a hospital without being nauseated an total emotional melt down. I think we should all cancel our insurance because it's for nothing now....

[@CharGC123]

I am totally with you on this, such horrible experiences and such ineptitude!

[@sweet_peds8677]

My kids step brother contracted meningitis when he was 2. CV started when he was 7 and almost 9, now. He missed PT, ST, OT, the services he received at school for almost 2 years and had to take remote classes. He is legally blind and deaf, learning delays and other significant deficits. When he did return to school 3 days a week, masks were not easy for him to acclimate to. It was awful! Then his school didn’t want to reopen given! So many kids lost out and especially vulnerable communities. It’s unconscionable! Thank you for speaking out for all children! I will never forget how you yelled from the mountain tops to advocate for our kids! Stay encouraged!

[@alananderson5202]

We really won't need a lot of doctors and nurses if citizens would stop consuming seed oils (vegetable oils), sugar, flour, processed food, fast food, sugar drinks (as well as fruit juice), dairy and soy products. Sounds impossible? Meat and vegetables with rice from time to time. Also, no snacking. Eat two meals within an 8hr window. It really isn't hard in western countries.

[@dasdeck]

Sounds oversimplistic, but I have to agree, for many people this will probably go a looooong way. Dabbling with isolation dieting myself. Many effects of foods are quite sublte, but in aggregate, food choices are literally life changing. from mood to fitness. It can literally change your character. not possible to overstate the improtance of a correct diet. it really is at "the root" of so many issues.

[@heathertaylor7164]

You are more and more on point. So glad you're with us in this great awakening

[@DietCokeAddict]

What frustrates me is that the academic environment you describe (cut-throat, back-stabbing) in many ways isn’t conducive to producing the “true and useful” research that’s needed. It selects for a particular type of person with a particular set of traits and biases such as unwavering self-confidence and a tendency to ignore cognitive dissonance or moments of self-doubt and forge ahead anyway. We need more thinkers that are prepared to sit with that sometimes useful self-doubt and have the courage to ask difficult questions. You are clearly one of those brilliant few who can do it regardless - but the reality is to have a lot more academics behaving like that would indeed require a more supportive, collaborative type of environment.

[@KathleenMcCormickLCSWMPH]

Very well thought out and very well said. Kudos. I’m glad you are standing up and speaking out. I think of the others as “good Germans”.

[@sparkyaddison8324]

Great talk. Wisdom for any career. Applies to corporate life as well - outside pharma yoo

[@marthaball8029]

This is just as true for every line of work, doc.

[@jerseytomato7253]

Wow!!!…love you brother!

[@MFB_9304]

Totally agree on the silence on school closures. I have said since almost day one - what these school systems have done, with their government’s full support, is literally criminal for children with identified special needs and morally reprehensible for all the other children that were affected😞

[@joetoe9207]

I appreciate your contributions around these issues (especially your more recent ones) immensely! Thank you.

[@ArtU4All]

I do not remember ANY debate in the the COVID context. Directives were were always mandated, and that was it.

[@RobinMotley.BlessedOldBird]

Any attempt to debate was crushed or canceled as propaganda or fringe.

[@joshuawayne8405]

I like the talk by T Colin Campbell where he notes that 90% of professors were tenured in the 1930’s but now only 9% of professors are tenured. Most people are working to one day be able to speak their mind but not until they become tenured unless they want to move cities or work elsewhere. The way you speak makes me think you’re either tenured or feeling safe knowing that we have your back no matter what you do! Thanks for sharing this truth with the world. This is exactly the reason why I got my Masters degrees and got out of academia for good. I don’t think I’d want all that pushback from the system when I can simply find another group of people to spend my time with.

[@jamesfrazee9575]

I like your soft call out of those who didn't speak out.

[@surgicalcapscom]

it all about the money

[@vitaly6312]

I know that me experience and expertise isn’t exactly what you’re talking about, but it is adjacent. From my experience in public health, it’s about escaping bureaucracy. Having worked in both academia and government spaces, it’s easy to feel replaceable and also bogged down by the ability to do ACTUAL work and make actual changes that make a difference in peoples lives. Having worked with MDs/DOs/PAs in making systems changes, those folks are overworked and bogged down by mandatory paperwork, random trainings, and crazy hours. I’ve had residents say that what we are doing is incredibly valuable and effective and can make massive improvements in health and streamline care - but they just don’t have the time to make those changes. In addition, the point you make in the inability to speak freely about issues that we see is absolutely abhorrent. We’ve been directly told to NOT speak about potential indirect costs of policies or unintended consequences. We’ve also been told to NOT target specific groups that may have higher incidence or prevalence of disease or risk factors for the disease. So it seems as though all of these issues are about politics and bureaucracy. I’m tired of it and I’m done. No amount of talking or making data driven efforts to actually help people is above politics or bureaucracy in healthcare or public health. So. I’m done. ✌️

[@glynemartin]

Really sad that the problem is systemic. This makes it much more difficult to address far less speak about...

[@pattivollmer1116]

I didn't understand most of the video, but I like the sarcasm and that giggle.

[@thomsonmaclean2041]

I suspect some (lots) of those who sit there, safely silent will wait until the hysterics are over, then loudly mouth off about how they were so against masking and jabbing young people and children. Many people are cowards Vinay, but not you.

[@justinreilly1]

Thank you Prof Prasad! Very interesting! I hope you have inspired some of these academics to get out there and say “hey, THIS is the science, at least as I see it and it’s complex and not always coextensive with the Pharma/ official public health narrative. Let’s talk about the science.” So wish there were more like you! But alas they may just want those NIH grants to keep coming and making an enemy of Fauci by questioning Tony Science may not be the best way to ensure that NIH $$ keeps flowing.

[@RRusciani]

Always look forward to your content! Thanks you!!!

[@kcmgfarm2389]

Keep at it, love this 👍

[@fracyoulongtime8123]

I am just a dumb ole cowboy but man I really want to know exactly what it is you do sir!!! Sounds exciting!!!

[@swcordovaf]

Moral arguments. Great analysis of a narrow but consequential few.

[@richware1]

No one is irreplaceable and moving from Academia to industry is not necessarily selling out or a move from the Ivory Towers. People change during their lives as does what they value. Having flexible work conditions become more valuable when you are raising a family. But I think your point is an academic career has a higher standard. Its a worthwhile pursuit if you are making a difference, treading water in academia once you've achieved tenure or become comfortable means you've betrayed your institution, your peers and the public that depends on you.

[@lisarandall6144]

Loving you these days 😍

[@ninjachan6171]

I like this video, really insightful and trying to reflect upon myself, fight for principles and freedom!

[@empowerwellnessessentialoils]

I think part of the reason why the researchers didn't get involved in the discussion could be because they saw people who said any little thing that may have seemed against the main narative being silenced or pulled through the mud.

[@suzalpacadream]

So real! So true! Where were they?

[@Krasbin]

This is also true for the rest of academia. Lots of people in physics are doing things that other people chose for them, not what they want to do themselves. This is in large part due to people not knowing what they want, and just following the herd. There is nothing good or bad about this. It just is.

[@slomo1716]

JOIN THE CLUB!!! you have me literally laugh, because who gets "support" in any line of business today?? NO ONE I am aware of, and YES knives in my back trying to work in a hostile work environment, now that was my accomplishment! SURVIVAL. I was the BEST of everyone around me, this made me a TARGET to be brought down. You are an amazing brilliant young man!! Thank you!!!!

[@19CQ]

I agree with you Dr. There is too much government over reach

[@nancienordwick4169]

We get a lot of flack when speaking truth, our platforms are censored, cancel culture is viscous. I speak when people are listening but I don't have access to an audience that truly needs to hear things.

[@Nmaslow1974]

Create. Great. Content

[@mbdad6838]

I see many Hem Onc docs leave academic medicine and moving into community practice. They make more money and their patients have a better experience.

[@SymphonicEllen]

Just the talk I think a lot of people, especially some college kids needed. You're awesome.

[@Ralph_Baric_PhD_C2019]

Who are you knifing with this one ???? I love it, nicely done. Will you get one of those limited sought after spaces ???? All's far in love and war and love while you bleed from the relevancy wound. Hook up the plasma units and keep on trucking. And beg you are not related to the British Royal Family.

[@johnwilhelm385]

Very interesting...

[@JCResDoc94]

1 billion active users a month, but i think only 50million creator accounts. i use to know the daily uploads. -JC

[@roymaitland6345]

Good people and groups need to form counter studies to existing businesses and governments to expose curruption 😮

[@Julia-jx5fb]

Would love to hear your thoughts on Remdesivir.

[@jasonhochman3750]

You are correct, but you don't mention the pressure of soft money. I work at a med school and you gotta get funded or you're gone.

[@Tech-49]

They sat it out because they didn’t want to be howled down by the bed wetters who would shriek about the certainty of killing grandma by opening schools. A proportion of them were those very bed wetters. The bed wetters are the people who we need to go after. Why must everyone be dragged down to their level ?

[@loudsubwoofer8492]

feeding the beast.😃

[@buckeroo93]

I think COVID has cast some serious doubts on how prevalent analytical thinking truly is in the academy. The perception of and trust in the academy (at least in medicine) has been nearly as eroded in the last two years as that of public health officials.

[@thecrazyandthewild]

thanks

[@tylerbradshaw7957]

I love Vinay, but after Ukraine and my kids school deciding to keep masks, this video was a bit too depressing for me.

[@shannonschleifer8602]

Hopefully school closure is in the past. Now what to do with these kids. They are scared, angry, volatile, and way behind. And that’s just the ones who came back to school.

[@jannz1942]

Academic medicine is working for big pharma... essentially.

[@prince.c8458]

🙏

[@--..__]

You contradict yourself by claiming one must be motivated by an abstract "mission" while also claiming that the poor metric of publication count is a direct and valuable measure of quality.

[@dumbdumber1885]

Does Dr. Michael Yeadon have any credibility? Would you consider interviewing him? I would love to see a public debate with this guy. I would love to see scientists debate him and challenge his views. Currently he's been vilified. That's no way to discredit him though. Any thoughts anyone?

[@JJ-hg5ho]

Why??

[@danielk6878]

Have you had any contact with Dr Suneel Dhand?

[@Naynay1160]

Doctor, your grandmother it a o very proud of you. I respect an I am so thankful for you .Please address longhaul covid. I want to feel better. February 26th 2020. I still can't smell or taste, tired, ears ringing, my ears never rang, I could smell the mold in the ground under my feet before this date. Now???? Tony an Barry have Some explaining to do...we need non Woke Real Doctors, men and women who know an honor the 'original 'real hypocrite oath. Doctors who have time to know who they are serving and sincerely care...because they do not....sincerely a 63 yrs grandmother of 13 who has faith an believes only in the One and Only True GOD YAHWEH, our Messiah Jesus "Yeshua ' Amen 🙏

[@faithsisk6239]

Antihistamines are supposed to help.long covid.i would chase that down

[@lydyasakyi3969]

Someone tried an orange whole with the peel in a pan on a stove..Kept it on fire till the skin darkened. Carefully peeled the orange onto a plate added a bit of brown sugar and eat it warm. I hope that helps with the loss of taste and/or smell.

[@graphguy]

$$$$ Is the only reason.

[@DrWilliamMartinPhD]

I continue to avoid the stain of academia...

[@denisekruczyk6847]

My daughter who is in a heavy mandated Vax college has to wear the mask but politicians do not? Thanks for calling out the blaring obvious that general people seem to not hear unfortunately

[@ed9154]

Herbalism need to make a comback! Lets base our answers and decisions base off observations, not imagination.. maybe lets try treating the symptom or symptoms... Not the titles

[@ArtU4All]

So you look to your left and right and compare yourself to the people of “your caliber”…. Their “research” is useless, you said. Are you saying, this is truly what you compare your work against?

[@Naynay1160]

Caliber? We are all human...

[@rberka555]

Hematology jobs to make crappy for-profit pharma drugs.

[@burtnation1357]

🥩

[@johng2881]

Because they are cowards

[@wonworld]

There are more than 2 billion monthly active users on youtube. *source: dude just trust me

[@postinginthepraire1416]

Lol COVID is the past. Move on Vinay.

[@--..__]

tell that to the continuing vaccine mandates in countries around the world. Have fun falling for every distraction the news presents for 15 minutes btw

[@denisekruczyk6847]

Ironic because my daughter still has to wear mask in heavily vaxxed college, so people must have not moved on yet unfortunately

[@johndesade126]

COVID is just beginning: John Hopkins University has already planned the NEXT pandemic - the SPARS pandemic... Bill Gates funds Johny Hopkins U to the tune of $MILLIONS every year; their 'next' pandemic, slated to be released 2025 or 2026, is supposed to kill 30% of the population!