Mono vs Fluoro: Abrasion Resistance Test (Shocking Results)

[@BERETTA9mmUSA]

Thanks for making the video, I know these videos take time. I really appreciate your efforts. Beretta Sr.

[@RadReelingFishing]

I've been sharing in my videos for a long time that the fluorocarbon is a waste...Your video totally backs what I've been saying. Thanks for doing this experiment!

[@louisperez2915]

Rad Reeling Fishing JC!

[@TB-xw3vo]

Rad Reeling Tampa Bay!

[@TackleAdvisors]

Not surprised at all in those results. Never found those two fluros to be all that tough. That ande leader material is also some very tough stuff. Since you are already setup It would be awesome to do that same test using fluro soaked in water for 10 then 20 etc minutes. Great vid! But keep goin with it! Also. Verify the diameter with calipers to assure level playing field :) Definitely dig the stuff you put out!! Keep up the great work!

[@sirronbailey3109]

This was a real good test and it has change my mind completely I will stick with my mono.

[@Larry77777]

Hey Luke: Thanks so much for taking the time to research, construct, test and most importantly thanks in advance for persevering and for not getting discouraged by the emotional comments crying foul ...

[@RealisticFishing]

Awesome experiment! Hype doesn't always equal truth. In fact... it rarely does.

[@michaelsayer3691]

Floro isnt used for abrasion resistance, there is no "hype". Its better for clear water and line shy fish. Simple

[@edp4556]

Michael Sayer in most articles about fishing line including a Berkely article it says mono is less abrasion resistant than fluoro but it clearly isn’t

[@awaken77]

this test is unfair because he using dry friction, underwater line doesn't work like this. mono is more stretchable thats why it won in this particular test. My practice shows that fluorocarbon has much better abrasion resistance, particularly in euro nymphing method, when leader touches rocky bottom very often.

[@drewbentley5001]

@@michaelsayer3691 no, that is also hype if it is any less reflective it is by such a small amount that it doesn't matter. Fish see line either way. What fluoro does do is sink better, that's all

[@GoBIGclan]

@@drewbentley5001 nope that is absolutely false. If you tuna fish you would know this. We are talking hundreds of people going out on sportfishers every single day, and noticing how the fluoro always get bit sooner and more often than mono, especially during a shy bite. It's not even in contention. Tell that to any tuna boat captain and he would laugh in your face

[@ramblinwilliams7675]

Wow Luke....Nice experiment! Before this test, I have been using 25lb mono for my leaders because its a whole lot cheaper than fluoro. After this test, I guess I'm going to keep on using mono for my leaders....tight lines and fish on!

[@michaelwells3635]

I'm so glad you did this test. I'll always be using Trilene mono as I have for decades.

[@ricewinner2596]

Ive done straight mono, Dacron to mono, braid to mono, braid to flouro, straight flouro. It all depends on when and where and what your trying to catch. Nice video and demonstration! I luv it!!!

[@chriswalls5831]

Trying to catch bass 10 lbs over

[@fishing-fanatic3427]

I always thought the reason for using fluor was for its invisibility in water over mono. That is the only reason I pay the extra money!!

[@davidsawyer1599]

Fishing Fan-at-ic! You would be correct! If one thinks flourocarbon is more abrasion resistant they are missing the point completely. Flourocarbon lines' advantage is in clear water. Once someone told me he was reef fishing and was using 10 feet of Flourocarbon leader in order to get bites. The fish would not hit the mono leader. I have never watched this channel before. The test is essentially useless. If one's leader is showing any signs of wear it's time to change it!

[@fishing-fanatic3427]

David Sawyer Amen to that brother!

[@chasingredsoutdoors6371]

Fishing Fan-at-ic! Well you say if you see any sign of wear in the flouro change it ..we're I fish u get your flouro leader bit up on the first cast and the fish won't care so much about visibility at least not were I fish so my point is the test is not useless for everyone I find it really helpfully and I will be using mono leader from now and on

[@nicksmith3746]

David Sawyer This test is not useless. People commonly think fluorocarbon is more abrasion resistant too.

[@77barree]

one nick and its over with that junk

[@DanielTPeace]

Man you do awesome comparison testing. Thanks for dispelling the Kool-Aid myths. Marketing is such a great place for hyperbole, the exaggerations of product features and benefits makes fools of us all. Well done and thanks so much for sharing.

[@lukesimonds3653]

Thanks for the kind words Daniel. Fish On!

[@fuzzyfultz]

Awesome test video, thank you for your hard work and patience doing this. Keep up the good work.

[@domainmojo2162]

Never doubted Nylon. The old timers knew their stuff! I can just picture guys like Roland Martin knowingly smiling at results like this! :)

[@marine6]

thanks for confirming my suspicions. ive been using 20lb p-line floro and have been losing gear left and right with light snags and even casting at around 60% with a 2oz weight. i was thinking i got a bad lot of p-line but after seeing this test i know whats the problem. 20lb fluro even feels weaker than mono, even curls up and stretches out when tying knots!

[@brianbbb7931]

Idk I’ve never had mono break on a fish so I’ll stick with what I’ve used for years. MONO.

[@BamaShinesDistillery]

I've used trident big game mono my whole life

[@cgf-carlosgonefishing3975]

Me too!

[@rusticgolf7149]

And it cast way further

[@brianbbb7931]

Nope never!

[@GoBIGclan]

I can't speak for freshwater, but for tuna, their mouths are not sandpaper. It's the teeth you have to be worried about. Let's do an experiment which tests "nicks" rather than "abrasion" to figure out which holds up better in a fish's mouth. This is a very great experiment for fishing sharks though!

[@ETuss713]

Sandpaper represent small teeth. Scaling up the abrasion or "nicks" will only exacerbate the results.

[@GoBIGclan]

​@@ETuss713 Ugh, the fish I go for have TEETH not sandpaper. It's a pretty common idea these days that fluoro resists nicks better (tuna teeth, reefs, cuts from another braided line) and mono in fact resists abrasion better (hull of the boat, shark skin) probably due to the fact that it stretches more. I think if you modify the tests the way I described it would back this up^

[@ETuss713]

@@GoBIGclan no, fluro doesnt. If you are positive of this, why are you asking for the test? Where have you seen this test to show this? Should I like my own comments too? Is that what the cool kids do?

[@GoBIGclan]

@@ETuss713 No I'm not positive of it. That's why I want it tested. It's the idea that literally the entire world of tuna fishing subscribes to, so don't you think we should properly test it? Hundreds of captains on both the East and West coast believe that fluoro has better resistance for a tuna's mouth. We bank off that belief. So why the hell should we just assume that a nick is the same thing as abrasion? I'm not saying I'm right, but I am saying this test does not show what happens when a line comes in contact with tuna teeth. They bite our jigs and their teeth literally dent the lead. Can sand paper dent lead? Can sand paper make a thin but deep cut on line, or pinch it? No. But that's what teeth do.

[@SeaStrokes_FNQ]

I honestly think it doesn’t matter if you using mono or fluoro when you going up against teeth “Nicks” both line won’t stand a chance. It’s time for wire

[@nozrep]

because mono is more stretchy right? is that why? well that’s my hypothesis on why it lasted longer

[@nozrep]

oh lol i typed that comment before reading a lot of the other comments where people theorized the same thing. ok cool

[@survivorjohnny44]

Great test. Thanks for taking the time to do it

[@supersanchez7813]

You guys are killing it, keep it up

[@AnthonyAngler]

Thanks as always. you guys definitely put in the work for the rest of us

[@evanhammond7305]

Florocarbon reflects less light and takes less to stretch it so its more sensitive. Just so the folks who watch know the true advantages.

[@gabrielf1911]

Fluro takes more to stretch than mono.

[@Knivez84]

If you watch, the mono stretches so the point of contact on the abrasion is getting distributed over more surface than the flouro line. You also need to load the mono and flouro closer to max capacity if you want a more accurate abrasion test.

[@ajgreen868]

Just take the loss and don’t make excuses. Fluro is garbage

[@arturleperoke3205]

You saved me a hell lot of money Sir!!! Additionally: the theory would be more robust when testing different brands in the exact same manner

[@lornehargis2614]

Great and fair analysis. Wondering about the visibility. Look forward to that. Thx.

[@jamesrogers2963]

Great test! A very experienced angler said he gave up on flouro because of its tendency to break easily when abraded in any way. You have proved him right!

[@markrigg6623]

Very poor knot strength as well.

[@moises8354]

I think mono lasts even longer as when the fluor would break off you were rubbing the line across the whole sand paper as to when they were hung together the abrasions were shorter. Good Tests 👍

[@HomesteadOnThePreserve]

Of course after recently buying a bunch of fluoro I discover this video! LOL, I think.....

[@tommitchell7993]

Good test. One thing I might comment on is that it is worthwhile measuring the actual diameter of lines as opposed to the stated diameter. Some manufacturers commonly understate the diameter of their lines, presumably to make them more attractive to the prospective buyer.

[@jeffbrinkman684]

Can you do the same test with the lines submerged in water, I've read mono changes strength underwater, but am curious about the abrasion resistance too. I just found your channel, you have a new sub!

[@nicholastreadaway4508]

That's true, the mono is made of nylon and nylon is weaker when wet.

[@robertrichards5686]

Yes I agree. Out of water and dry, nylon seems pretty good. However underwater I wonder if fluoro will win.

[@TheOpelkoenjas]

Under water the fluoro will win by miles. Remember, when making a knot in fluoro you need to make you sure to lubricate the knot plenty, more than you would with mono. This is because fluoro doesn't do good against friction heat. Once submerged tho, it gains a lot in strength and passes the mono without any difficulty. The only negative thing about fluoro I can think of - or rather that I have heard of since I haven't had a problem with it yet - is that the knots tends to slip a bit more when not tightened strong enough. But like I said, I haven't encountered that problem yet, not a single knot has slipped on me, even when hauling in a big one. Maybe because I take good care of the knots? Cheers.

[@tomastuoma]

Sorry but that is just wrong. Mono ends up being almost twice as resistant in this test. If you think water somehow makes flouro (a material that doesn't even absorb water...) that much stronger, or mono that much weaker, you're kidding yourself. Or your brain is just trying to justify buying the much more expensive flouro... If mono lost almost half it's strength in water, don't you think we would know that?

[@jamesbarron1202]

@@tomastuoma I personally dont like floro myself and wont use it. I fish copolymer P-line. But he is correct about floro being weaker out of water. Floro friction burns easily unless it lubricated (spit) when tieing knots and it would burn the same on the sandpaper. I still think monos abrasion is better but both submerged i think would make them closer in an abrasion test

[@jmurray66655]

Great test, regardless of what the pro fluorocarbon crowd have to say, this test along with the stretch test has proven what I have been thinking for a long time, fluorocarbon is a lot of hype, and not a lot of gain for the price 👍

[@pakde8002]

I also feel there's a good deal of hype but to be fair there are a lot of parameters that go into leader selection. As a main line it's a no brainier...mono all the way

[@thenatureoffishing7591]

Excellent. Love to see this kind of testing. Thanks for this. Although you did address diameter differences, all comparisons really need be done with equal diameters, measured with a micrometer.

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for making time to leave the comment. What do you feel is more important, having the diameters equivalent or the strength of the line? I was assuming that most people would be prioritizing the power/strength of the line ahead of its diameter... as long as the thinner one is equal to or better than the thicker option in terms of strength.

[@thenatureoffishing7591]

Hi Luke. Definitely diameter. Diameter is number one in terms of presentation controls: depth, speed, and lure action/manipulation. It's also a MUCH easier, and more accurate, standard to work from. Factory "break-ratings" are essentially useless; More marketing categories than hard data. I care less about the actual break strength (they're all pretty good), as long as I am familiar with the end point of any line.

[@TomMendoladrums]

THANK YOU! I use only mono for live bait fishing for Yellowtail, Calico Bass, Bonito. etc. in SoCal and I rarely lose a fish in kelp and catch large fish. I was thinking of trying braid and flouro leader and now I won't. I have been using Berkley Trilene Big Game and it has not let me down.

[@ryano5780]

Awesome video mate.. cheers for running the test. Will definitely be taking some mono leader out next trip.

[@ChesaFreakBoyzFishingVideos]

I certainly do not fish fluorocarbon for it's abrasion resistance. I thought it to be relatively well known that monofilament is stretchier and has quite a bit more, shall be say, abrasion forgiveness. I fish the flouro over the mono (as leader) every single time I'm fishing inshore saltwater. There are two BIG advantages that I've noticed. First, I just feel a LOT more comfortable in the knot strength and sensitivity that fluorocarbon provides inshore. It has all of the same sensitivity that you will find in the braid AND does not stretch like a rubber band on the hookset. Second, and more importantly, fluorocarbon does not absorb any water, while mono does. As a result, after multiple uses or trips, I find that mono tends to degrade quickly. It is penetrated with the salty water, which ultimately softens out the leader (beware of treble wraps). Flouro is impervious to such absorption, thus the line stands up to the saltwater conditions much better. This absorption factor could, in fact, lend some credence to the theory that part of this fluorocarbon "myth of abrasion resistance". Abrasion resistance is certainly not the right claim for these companies to make in trying to sell their more expensive leader option. Nevertheless, saltwater always wins and, the fluorocarbon is simply going to hold up longer. But, you know, this is like....my opinion, man.

[@Saltstrong]

Great suggestion! I'll redo this test with lines that have been soaked in water for 24+ hours to see if there is a difference in results. Have you tested out the knot strength of your knots with fluoro vs. mono? Mono seems to have the advantage in terms of knot strength for the lines I've tested so far relative to fluoro. As for feel, fluoro definitely has the advantage given that it doesn't stretch as much. But I only use either one for leader (using braid as the main line for added casting distance), so the added stretch of mono relative to fluoro is not noticeable to me since I'm just using a 24" +/- leader.

[@humdrum5509]

I thought flouro was more abrasion resistant. Thanks for the knowledge.

[@PompanoBrownie]

Outstanding Video! I guess we learned that if the "invisibility" feature of Flurocarbon is true then the end result is that Fluro will hook more fish, and lose more fish! LMAO Me personally.. I don't buy any of the invisibility stuff about Fluro. I used to fish with an old timer that tied his surf rigs with a 50lb Berkley Mono called "Iron Silk" that was a Dark Green. That Old timer would out fish 95% of anybody on the beach. It's all about reading the surf and getting the bait right. Best video I have seen all year!

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for making time to leave the nice comment! Glad to see that you enjoyed this experiment. Here's a link to more line test in case interested: www.saltstrong.com/article_categories/fishing-lines/

[@joedoug3647]

I think the stretch in mono gives it the upper hand here. This is valuable information for wreck fishing where the fish pull you against heavy structure.

[@tackleaddictgy]

Great test. You don't have to justify your self to idiots who love floro more than mono. You did the test so everyone see n it was a fair enough test. I had a snook on mono leader and I was surprised how strong it was even after the beating it took

[@howabouthetruth2157]

AMEN Kris..........I've been fishing here in Florida since 1969.........Years ago, I jumped on the "fluoro bandwagon" buying only "the best" like P-Line. Used that CRAP exclusively for 4 years straight. Then one day, I WOKE UP & realized all the break-offs I was experiencing, even when setting the hook on small fish. I switched 100% back to my old tried & true Berkley/Trilene Big Game mono in various sizes/tests........and virtually all my line breakage issues disappeared. .........I call it "THE GREAT FLUORO FRAUD".

[@TheOpelkoenjas]

The only idiot in here is the one that doesn't know that once submerged the fluoro wins by miles against the mono. The entire point of fluoro is that it gains a lot in strength once submerged in cold water yet doesn't require big diameters to have that strength. If he would do this test with both lines submerged in cold water the outcome would be entirely different and the fluoro would win by miles. So please keep that bottom lip stuck to your upper lip, do a bit more research, become less ignorant and THEN we will talk again. Thank you.

[@justinwilliams2346]

Exactly, I fish in Socal and we don't usually fish in up close spots and if we do it is for bass fishing under docks and the fish are very prone to seeing the line(mono) if that is what I am using, and I tend to catch less fish than when I am not using floro where fish cant see the line and don't get as spooked and In most cases I can pull the fish away for the dock before the fish can tangle me up.

[@mrmisterman999]

So people that use fluoro are idiots? Great logic kid. I bet you're the kind of genius that uses 20lb mono in crystal clear water and wonders "why am i not catching any fish?". Dumbass

[@tomastuoma]

Exactly how would flouro become stronger in water? It's a hydrophobic material, it doesn't absorb water, or bond to it in any way. And mono doesn't fall apart just from absorbing some water. They did test this in water as well, and the results was the same.

[@gilbertrobles1374]

This is the test comparison that I unconsciously was waiting for. Thank you sir. I wonder if their is a way to experiment which of the two stretch s the most (tensile) strength I guess. Great video with surprising results.

[@Fredo_El_Torpedos]

thanks you so much! been fishing for small mouth in the Rapids with braid and break big one ... then I find this video and decided to go back to mono...even if it cast not as long as braid, I won't lose at fish in the rock!! (sorry for my English I'm still in learn)

[@joshualammi5306]

I would love to see some abrasion tests with braid.

[@cstarsfly]

they wont take very long...

[@stephenlnoe]

One thing is sure in fishing, you can never go wrong with Mono (especially Stren or Ande). It just works.

[@LDQBBQ]

I get that people want every little advantage that they can find. It's amusing to me after thinking about all of this when we talk about line visibility. Mono and Flouro are both essential clear. The lures we use have large black hooks that stick way out. Treble hooks are everywhere on a bait. We've all been fooled into obsessing over subtle differences in line visibility, and then forking over more money than we need to for fishing line. I've switched back to mono after swearing by flouro for years.

[@pakde8002]

Especially if talking about reaction bite predators...you can literally swim a block of wood by really fast and get a lot of strikes from pike and bass. It flips me out seeing guys buying GT lures for two hundred dollars with $50 dollar/25 feet fluorocarbon shock leader then watching some guy in the Philippines in a traditional boat catching a huge GT (as by-catch!!!) on a home made aluminum spoon...and get this , he's trolling for tuna and Marlin!

[@pakde8002]

And handlining

[@richardlowe8062]

This test isn’t a surprise to people who have actually used fluoro. Breaks off way to easy.

[@Bassniper]

Interesting test. There are certainly whole bunch of sales hype out there. To calibrate the difference caused by diameter, add a test of the same brand mono at different diameter would be great.

[@coreyhurt8529]

I don’t get all the hype people have had with fluoro. It just show how much advertising and the industry can push public opinion over complete lies.

[@markshane2686]

Great video. I have never like Fluoro any way just because its way to stiff. Thanks for the test you guys know what matters. Tight lines.

[@DrFish71]

Have you performed this test after soaking the mono in water? Mono absorbs water, fluoro does not. Would be more accurate if you soaked the mono, allowing it absorb water and see if it still holds up longer.

[@robert_starling]

Good point!

[@pegasus6724]

I like all these tests they do with fishing gear

[@eildaffishing938]

I really need this information and i found your channel. Thanks for this info definitely gonna use monofilament and you gained a new subs. 😁👍

[@rodbrown3106]

Would be interesting if you did this test 'wet' to simulate it being in the water. Leader is usually in the water not out dury. Result may be the same but just spoke to a fishing guide and that was his take on the result.

[@nolitotagavilla4970]

What about the line memory?

[@Larry77777]

Hey Luke: In your continuing quest, please every time write and say main line or leader line as the case may be and never just line. For example, in this video, all three are leader line, but some commenters misunderstood that. Thanks so much!

[@sjeter61]

thanks! best fishing channel Ive found

[@lrparrish227]

Thanks for sharing. I was wondering the same thing. Good information. I use the Seagar 20 myself.

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks!

[@jonnywaselectric]

Mono has an advantage of absorbing head shakes

[@redfinfisho]

And a disadvantage of absorbing water

[@shred5]

Try it soaked for a while. Once wet, mono becomes less abrasion resistant where fluorocarbon doesn't. This is no surprise as the line is dry.

[@johnjarjoura889]

I have always caught more snapper using lighter mono over stiffer flourocarbon. I would rather use 12 lbs straight mono over a 12 mono to a 12 flourocarbon leader while yellowtail snapper fishing. I'm not even a huge believer that flourocarbon gets more snook bites. I still get the same amount of bites wiether it's an artificial or a live bait on mono. I do like flourocarbon for offshore applications. I like the stiffness over mono with leader systems.

[@thefishingsmith4430]

Thanks Man..you save my money..Great Job!

[@Saltstrong]

Glad to see that you enjoyed this post! Here's a link to see a list of the various product reviews that we've posted on our website: www.saltstrong.com/article_categories/product-reviews/

[@Enpassantful]

Can you do some more tests to find which brand of mono is the best.

[@mr.redneck7429]

Listen guys it may not be 100% accurate but it's plenty accurate enough to show you what the better line choice is. He's only trying to help us save some money and and land more fish. there's no need to pick him apart every time he makes one of these videos.

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for the support!

[@Thundra74]

you open my eyes! i have repeted this test myself with my nylon(fluorocoated 100% japan) VS my Fluoro (100% japan same brand of my mono) both soaked for a day ! tryed different sandpaper grain 120 -240- 600 and natural stone gneiss (cutted with diamond disc) and i got the same result as you my nylon always wins. Now iam puzzled about other brand of fluoro and nylon but for now ihave discharged my Fluoro for inconsistence.

[@cornettojordgubb]

But if the mono is flourocoated then... it's not strictly mono is it? It sounds like what they call copolymer line

[@jp.9664]

Great video ! now i would like to see a test proving Fluoro is less visible in clean water.I've never been convinced that it is.

[@Saltstrong]

I def plan to do some tests on underwater visibility of fluoro vs mono, and I am very much looking forward to seeing the results.

[@pakde8002]

Someone did some tests on YT but the test conditions weren't very convincing. Salt Strong will definitely do a better job with good analysis. Maybe not the most scientific but at least it's a benchmark instead of just listening to guys shooting the bull sitting on a bench

[@12askalHarry]

Can you do a video of braided line 4 carrier braid against 8 carrier??

[@Saltstrong]

I'll add that to the list. What test are you most interested in for those two lines... abrasion resistance or casting distance?

[@zaidinazmi1323]

Abrasions would be good

[@12askalHarry]

Well 4 carrier suppose to be more abrasions than 8 carrier are more smoother but less abrasions than 4 carrier braided line

[@edwardegnor8812]

KhmerHarry 4 is stronger then 8 when dragging fish around rocks and other obstacles 8 is more limber for casting on spinning reels

[@fuzzyfultz]

I was thinking the same thing Sir. Be nice to see a braided test as well here. I use the spider wire in a 30 lb hi vis yellow.

[@xincarceratedx]

00:33 the word is "especially", not "eckspecially" 2:02 the word you're looking for is "sheet", not "strand", relevant to the sandpaper😊 FYI, mic placement off your throat would be best to eliminate the swallow sounds

[@girabaldytasty6224]

Why

[@chris73brown]

Good test man. Your results are true. Theres a few detailed situations tho with this deal. First, lm a mono leader guy due to cost differences. But have used flouro plenty times when someone or a company has given it to me. With my results when comparing 80 ande mono pink and yozuri 80 flouro pink, the ande mono is much more abrasion resistant than the flouro. By far. Been frayed off by big fish way more with it than the other with the exact same amount of drag on them. Also lve found that the ande 80 pink mono is more abrasive than the clear ande mono 80. Something to do with the chemical compound of it. The pink is harder than clear. Other people agree aswell. The only snook leader l 'buy' is ande 80 mono pink. Anyways thx for vid. These are the kinds of vids that are interesting to me. Take note my theory is only with 80 and heavy drag situations

[@Jake-rh5tj]

Which line cast the farthest?

[@Saltstrong]

Braid is known for casting distance assuming you're referring to spinning reels. Fluoro is just a type of monofilament, so they most likely have a very similar casting distance relative to one another unless it's one with a lot of line memory which will not cast as far.

[@ApacheChief]

It’s because flouro has less stretch. The mono can absorb some of the cutting action away. At least that’s my take on it.

[@christopherarmstrong9815]

I have had great experience with copolymer line. Have you ever tried Yozuri Hybrid line? Marketing along with pro's being paid sponsors for expensive braided and fluorocarbon line had led to people using them. Your experiment is just more proof that you just don't need those expensive lines most of the time. I never use either anymore simply because for me the didn't add enough positives to outweigh the significantly higher cost and the negatives. Fisherman are caught by the Marketing too often. Thank fo the video!

[@BigInjun05]

Why did we switch brands for the second test?

[@Saltstrong]

Because that test was for matching the diameters of a mono vs. fluoro, and that particular brand had the closest diameter to the regular mono.

[@DanHargrave]

My $.02 - It seems that your test favors the mono since the mono stretches more. So when the same sideways motion is applied to both lines the mono gives a little and the fluoro doesn't, so the abrasion begins happening on the fluoro while the mono is still stretching. This happens with each stroke. Ultimately the fluoro receives more abrasion because it is more rigid. Like trying to saw wood vs. cloth.

[@Saltstrong]

I tested mono vs. fluoro by twisting the sandpaper rod (vs. oscillating it) and the results were the exact same... mono won by a wide margin... I was totally shocked!

[@unknownoriginal8004]

How heavy are those weights did you also wet the lines. The only way to actually test it is to fish with it and not rub it on dry sand paper also put a heavier load on in it.

[@Saltstrong]

Check out the full blog on our website and post your question there. That way, Luke can respond back directly with his input. You can find that here: www.saltstrong.com/fishing-tip/fluorocarbon-leader-abrasion-test-vs-mono/

[@2ndGenDurgo]

Awesome experiment. Glad to see another nonbeliever in flouro, I was just having an argument about this one yesterday

[@Saltstrong]

Glad to see that you enjoyed this line experiment! Check out how much worse the knot strength for fluoro was relative to traditional mono using the exact same knot in this newer experiment that we did last week: www.saltstrong.com/articles/clinch-knot-vs-uni-knot/

[@jackgold8382]

amazing, I always had my suspicions and stuck with mono

[@howabouthetruth2157]

SMART MAN!!! ........I learned the hard way, for 4 years straight, beginning in 2001. Quit using that JUNK & switched back 100% to good mono, and ALL my line breakage issues disappeared. Fluoro is a member of THE GLASS FAMILY. IT FRACTURES DURING ANY SHOCK OR STRESS.

[@TomB1236]

Thank you, is all about how market drives the product, I will still buying mono!

[@fisherofmen3336]

The main reason I like to use fluoro is because it takes FAR less time to break down in the water. Mono is awful for that. It takes hundreds of years to break down, where as fluoro takes only a few years. That is my reason, not the whole invisibility thing. There just seems to be a lot of people swear off fluoro because of the visibility and abrasion resistance compared to mono. Just remember that fluoro is better in the regard I mentioned. Happy fishing!

[@mgtowmorocco6139]

I agree 💯

[@treesolutions3182]

The only problem I see is the mono has more stretch. So using the oscillation method the mono is clearly stretching more as it moves across bar subjecting it to less movement across the sand paper. That’s not to say that quality shouldn’t be considered by any means, but if the fish is hooked hollow in the mouth of a fish that stretch won’t come into play, but if hooked deep it could be the difference in the fish staying on or getting off in a long fight. It would be nice to see if the results stay the same by rotating the bar vs oscillating it.

[@White_Tiger93]

I don't understand exactly how is that leader is mono, like how is that a mono? wasn't mainline supposed to be mono?

[@fishmonkesus]

Amazing experiment. Love it!

[@wickedEPRacing]

damn...i've been using Yozuri fluro :( thank you so much for the test.

[@dylanlevin]

Keep using flouro its invisible not stronger anyone who is a fisherman knows that

[@mykelmedeiros1528]

I also use the pink 80lb yozuri fluorocarbon as my leader only. I felt was good but I too noticed it can break easily an I know a few friends that kept getting cutoff as the GT love taking you deep rubbing you off so they had to go higher in lb with fluoro! I'm also debating if I should switch to mono because of that purpose. Could mono be seen from topwatwr lures?

[@AnglingAddictssrilanka]

@@mykelmedeiros1528 honestly there is a lot of debate on the visibility topic too. i've since switched to ANDE "leader material" line and i dont see a difference in strike rate compared to the Yozuri fluro i was using earlier...how ever the ANDE leader material line is far cheaper..so easier on the pocket...i use mostly 60lb/80lb leader. sometimes 100lb when fishing heavy line. personally on salt water, especially for palegics and predatory fish...i dont think most species are very picky...they will hit your bait or lure if they are hungry or triggered. fresh water is different. specially for certain fresh water species like trout etc who are very picky. TIGHT LINES!!!

[@mykelmedeiros1528]

@@AnglingAddictssrilanka thanks braddah I find this very helpful & that is very true what you stated. If there hungry there hungry lol... I believe they'll bypass the lines appearance & only care for that fish (lure) hahaha. Keeping this in mind I will change to a great mono brand & use that as my leader 🙏🏽🤙🏽😊

[@codydinnocenzo8746]

Great video, I wont be wasting money on floro anymore 😆

[@nickcavazos5718]

Have you done this test with seaguar abras-x? I'm curious how that would fair against other flouro's and that mono since it's advertised for abrasion resistance and more expensive than most others.

[@07Kimo07]

Great and more importanly, a fair test! What's the Fluoro community response to this test? How can they rebutt this test? It is so decisive! Does anybody have a link? I've always use a mono leader even before i saw this test. I always thought a fish who can bite his way out of a good hook set deserves to live. Plus....the cost of fluorocarbons does not warrant a purchase from me. Yes, I am cheap or maybe... just frugal.

[@maxwell48]

I use flouro on slow movers like jigs and bottom bumper plastics or anything a fish can get a long , good look at. Top waters ,swim baits , etc get mono because the fish are usually following or reaction striking.

[@Saltstrong]

Thanks for making time to leave the nice comment.

[@maddunea]

what do you think is the best mono mainline resistent at abrasion?

[@afzalb2366]

Berkeley Trilene big game nylon leader VS Berkeley Vanish Flourocarbon VS GAMAKATSU G-LINE SHOCK LEADERS...... which would be the best choice for saltwater fishing...

[@Saltstrong]

Here's a test on Berkley Big Game vs. other popular monofilament lines in which is beat a line that beat Vanish: www.saltstrong.com/articles/best-monofilament-line-abrasion-strength/

[@Desconhecido1975]

Are these tested fluorocarbon lines of 100% Fluorocarbon or only Fluorocarbon coated ?

[@gregk9387]

Can I ask a stupid question? What's a real difference between 20lb tested line and 20lb leader lines? I'm new in fishing , those so called leader line cost much more than regular line in same loading weight, but cost many times more, please help

[@PatVegas89]

Awesome video man. I'm a salt strong fan and watch all of your videos. Only advice is that you gotta cut back on that intro man haha. 3 minutes in before we got to the good stuff!!!!!

[@Saltstrong]

Sorry about that Patrick. I'll do my best to shorten the intros... I knew that this one in particular will surely get a lot of new viewers, so I had to include an explanation of the purpose, hypothesis, process, etc. so that new visitors knew what was happening and why. Fish On!

[@PatVegas89]

Salt Strong I was just giving you a hard time man. Keep it up! you post alot of great stuff. You're helping the average angler like myself. Much appreciated. Tight lines!

[@FeathersFurandFins]

Using Ande mono leader material leaves a lot of questions remaining. Ande leader material is used by so many fly anglers because it is thicker than regular mono of the same weight test rating. The added thickness adds stiffness and makes for good butt sections to fly leaders to turn over flies. It is not a standard mono line (or even a standard premium line). It is thicker and harder than regular mono, which will obviously give it an edge on abrasion resistance. I wish you would have tested this with a type of mono people commonly spool an entire reel with (like the fluoro lines you compared it to).

[@Saltstrong]

This test was specifically analyzing a traditional mono leader to a fluorocarbon leader. There will be a future test on mono line vs. mono leader. Here's an earlier test I did on fluoro mainline vs fluoro leader line in case you're interested: www.saltstrong.com/articles/fluorocarbon-leader-vs-main-line/

[@zahidiqbalabid4135]

Which line is best for me in pakistan for fresh water. Mono or fluorocarbon

[@soonleelim3333]

Could you eliminate “stretch” in the mono for the same test? Put on 20lbs weight to the line and test both the resistance to abrasions. As the line isnt put under tension. Mono tenancy to stretch could have provided a larger surface area.

[@pakde8002]

But it's also getting thinner right?

[@Nathan-wn5mc]

Awesome video, do you happen to have a video demonstrating braided line?

[@Saltstrong]

Yes, here's a link to a test we did on braid vs. mono: www.saltstrong.com/articles/braid-vs-mono-abrasion-strength-experiment/

[@justinwilliams2346]

In my case I fish in Southern California and the most of the time that fishermen are using fluorocarbon lines deep sea fishing, and we are fishing for pelagic fish where there is little to no places to chafe off and as we all know that Tuna and Socal Yellow tail and tuna can see mono fishing line in the water more so than fluorocarbon. In most cases that I prefer to use mono is when I am fishing near an island where they can go down and go into kelp or into a reef but when I am fishing near a kelp patty I use flour carbon fishing line.

[@AngelFlores-ec7bh]

Do you fish fluoro for yoyo fishing? I just use mono for that but fluoro for bait and surface irons.

[@justinwilliams2346]

I don't usually fish yo-yo style because i find it to be more fun using a surface iron. Because you can get it away from the boat and see the fish hit the tady some times

[@justinwilliams2346]

But yeah I use the same as you for bait and surface iron

[@emtguy4321]

Ever do a test replicating a sharp.tooth and lbs of pressure it takes to cut the line?

[@andym60]

Excellent tests, surprising! That said, water is a lubricant and I’d like to see if the test under water conditions.

[@simplemanfishingvideos1395]

Well done!!!

[@us_patriot_31b]

I would like to see an initial vertical drop test performed in the same manor with a 1-2lb weight.

[@ChiefToad]

This test has a MAJOR flaw, is misleading, and should be taken with a grain of salt. The abrasion resistance properties of monofilament change as it comes in contact with water(it absorbs water, and becomes significantly softer) Fluoro does not absorb water. Here is a way to make it more accurate...soak the mono(and fluoro) in water for a minimum of 15mins. first. This test is only helpful, as it was conducted, if you hooked a fish on your first cast, on a dry spool. I also have problems with this particular choice in abrasion testing because of the heat produced in the air environment. I believe fluoro is more susceptible to the breakdown due to heat damage through friction. As compared to a real world underwater exposure to abrasion. That is less of an issue though I think.

[@Saltstrong]

I repeated this test with 15+ minute soaked mono, and the results were the same... it handily beat both fluoros again. I'll try it again with mono that's soaked for a full 24 hours to see if that alters the results.

[@ChiefToad]

Results the same. Surprising. That makes it more accurate for sure. The only thing I think to still consider is the heat friction issue. I don't know how to account for that unless the test was done underwater, I guess. But even still...I might have to reconsider ever using fluoro again for any abrasion benefit.

[@Saltstrong]

I was shocked too... I also tried twisting the pole thinking that perhaps the mono was just better at twisting around the sandpaper, and the mono lasted way longer than the fluoro in that test too. I'll try some other mono lines to see if that one in particular just happens to be an incredibly strong one.

[@zajdabneeg]

Mono stretches more so it absorbs more stress. Flouro dont stretch so stressing it result more direct damage.

[@slipngrip]

did you do the test with 24hr soaked mono? how did it come out??!!

[@arnaldobertoli1275]

@saltstrong, thanks tor the video, RELLY helpful, best inshore fishing channel!