Monster Hunter Wilds - Are the Performance Concerns Valid?

[@struckfluency]

There’s an exclusive interview in Italian with great info that I feel should have made it into this video. My apologies. Capcom states the last 6 months of development being focused on optimization. Good news for both console & PC. Makes sense that this would be the case but it’s nice to have confirmation! Interview with English translation here: www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/s/yMWAeowMe5

[@RouxBeard]

When they say that the target fps is 30 at 1080p in 2025 it should cause tornado sirens 🚨 to go off...

[@adventuretuna]

While I do have my concerns right now, I will wait for the demo to drop before forming an opinion.

[@janmoret517]

Upgraded from a RX580 to a RTX 4070 yesterday just for this game, now just have to upgrade my motherboard and cpu

[@KITSUNEDEITY.]

o a msi tomahawk motherboard is good and affordable

[@janmoret517]

@@KITSUNEDEITY.that’s exactly what I’m getting😂my current tomahawk is crap and wont fit my new cpu so am gonna get the b550 tomahawk motherboard alongside a ryzen 7 5700X3D 16 thread

[@KITSUNEDEITY.]

@@janmoret517 same thing i got

[@struckfluency]

lmao my b450 tomahawk is tired boss

[@Hyper_Steel]

Are you copying me lol? I also had a RX 580 and upgraded to a RX 6600 XT just for this game 💯

[@Vortexstorm921]

I love how the Monster Hunter community have so much faith in Capcom to not mess up our favorite series! It’s like living through a really good anime, you never know where it’s going next but we trust the creators to create something that fans will love!

[@NamelessPigeon-w3r]

speaking of a monster hunter anime….😏

[@ToHonorKnowledge]

Uh, the release of the clutch claw made 95% of the community pissed. It completely changed the game and feel of the game and added useless pointless mechanics to monsters to try and force you to use your claw despite some weapons not even getting anything for it. And the pc launch was also a terrible nightmare. The base games multiplayer was one of the worst multiplayer systems in gaming period. It’s not all blind love, you just seem blind to the criticism

[@sducky6943]

this feels like a crazy high quality video for the Sub count! get this fella what he deserves!

[@struckfluency]

ayy thank you!

[@Eweyhen]

I want to be able to harvest canteen materials from bosses to create speciality dishes with unique buffs

[@xTiddi]

Bought a 4070Super couple of months ago just for this game. Ngl, I'm disappointed when they showed the specs on steam. And I even play at 1080p!

[@MysteriousStranger50]

I’ve got a near top of the line pc, 4080, and there isn’t a game on the market it couldn’t get 60fps 1440p on Until now, it seems. This game isn’t that wild graphically or whatever, this is just poor optimisation or engine issues. Funnily enough the only other game that struggled was wild hearts. The not mon hun mon hun

[@JeannieLove]

I pre-ordered a PS5. In order to upgrade my PC, it would cost double that. I bought a Japanese 3DS to play MH4 before it came out in English and then I bought the MH4U edition of the NN3DS for faster load times. I'm just a sucker for Monster Hunter.

[@houseofthehuntinghorn1433]

We still have to be optimistic because remember the demo version still doesn't have the parasite anti cheat attached. Still won't stop me from playing it. i still bought the highest tier version

[@struckfluency]

@@houseofthehuntinghorn1433 denuvo haunting the release of another game yet again.. tbh it’s not gonna stop me either

[@houseofthehuntinghorn1433]

@struckfluency if we are lucky and the game is finished, they are optimizing it with the anti cheat already in place.

[@samyt681]

@@struckfluency world still doesnt run very well despite denuvo removal, denuvo performance loss was negible.

[@MysteriousStranger50]

This isn’t true. Denuvo has been shown to taking up around 10% of the processing power Easy anticheat is even worse. I don’t notice anything because I have a top of the line PC but then if the game is uncapped it can go from 140 to 160fps easily. People with more limited PCs would be much harder hit

[@Shilobotomized]

​@@samyt681world runs great, even on a 1060? DMCV had a 20-25% performance boost after DRM was removed.

[@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf]

They’re valid concerns but I do not believe that we need to worry all too much about it.

[@ORLY911]

while the requirements might slide down slightly further they develop, and maybe after the demo theyre able to get more information on hardware thats used to play it itll be further optimized, its still very sketchy considering that hardware requirements is with frame gen and upscaling on, its not true 1080 60 fps, and thats really concerning as no game should be struggling to hit that standard with hardware that powerful. This is before factoring in whatever DRM and anticheat they inject into the game, which will add onto the performance drop further. Also, Enigma/EAC can affect online as well, not just performance of the game. Elden Ring on PC is objectively the worst way to play the game as long as EAC is enabled, it makes the game a lag fest when cooping or PVP compared to its console versions. Having laggy online hunts will be unacceptable and will shoo a lot of people away from the PC version.

[@WisdomAkpan211]

I asked this to Blunty but he never gave a response, but PLEASE drop the entire footage for the scarlet forest thats been colour corrected/hdr corrected Im tired of staring at the original washed out version when the snippets youve both showcased looks sooooo much better😂😭

[@struckfluency]

It’s mostly just a preset in Adobe Premiere! The footage itself is pretty low quality so it doesn’t feel worth it to put up a color corrected version of it. There will be new gameplay soon enough without botched capture cards involved 😂

[@Kroq-gar]

I’m pretty sure CAPCOM tweeted that for these last couple of months, they are doing everything to fix these issues. Of course, this is based off memory so takes my words with a grain of salt.

[@struckfluency]

You’re correct! You might be thinking of an interview that came out two days ago or so. First question/answer was about the last 6 months of development leading up to launch being focused on optimization. www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/s/wm94BreGI0

[@Jazzy--]

I don't think that a monster becoming a bonepile would be the issue... Since it only requires a timer that tracks how long the monsters body has been dead. In other words, it shouldn't affect performance, unless they fucked up the code as bad as terraria

[@struckfluency]

I’m just imagining monsters being killed and then bone piles just stacking in particular hotspots on the map lol. True though, it’s probably not much different than a gathering spot.

[@Jazzy--]

@@struckfluency I'd think the biggest concern would be multiple players in the same world in different regions. In mhw everyone is in the same locale which is way smaller. Introduce multiplayer with multiple locales, and now it's way harder to optimise "2" locales at the same time. But again, we don't know what they do before launch etc. Maybe it's due to s bug or some kind of unlucky red code moment lmao. Hope the game turns out good anyway

[@MinnaghYT]

My partner plays mhw on my old rog laptop which has a 2070 in it. I really hope I don't need to build a whole new computer for them just for Wilds

[@neopabo]

AMD recently released an update for frame generation which removes the latency. Maybe capcom was developing with that in mind?

[@struckfluency]

frame gen isn't the enemy, but what about those with GPUs that don't have access to the latest implementations of it?

[@neopabo]

@@struckfluency Valid concern. I have no idea... We'll just have to wait and see

[@curcubicolor8146]

there is no such thing as frame gen without a latency cost, based on what I found online the update is a 28% improvement to latency compared to the previous version which is great but don't claim they magically removed latency.

[@samyt681]

framegen at 30 bruh, base framerate should be higher.

[@meisterwu8922]

"removing" latency from frame generation is simply not possible. you need the already rendered frame to be held back, so your hardware is able to generate what should happen between the last 2 generated frames. If you remove that, the gpu would just throw out wild guesses.

[@XieRH1988]

the RE engine has been fine on the vast majority of games, so long as you dont try to do anything crazy on it. Dragons Dogma 2 is one of those times they went crazy with it. Remains to be seen how crazy Wilds will be. So far we know the maps are larger, but there's also the monster AI and environmental behaviour workload that needs to be evaluated, hopefully when a demo comes out.

[@neerodz2650]

i got rx5700 two years ago and i was planning on keeping it since 95% of games that came out runs just fine but mh is forcing me to upgrade, if i wasn't a mh fan i wouldn't do that so i'd imagine everyone else that doesn't have 4060 and above won't play this game, it doesn't make any sense to upgrade (400$+) just for one game that you don't even know if you're gonna like or not

[@Dod.O39]

Unless your trying to hit a smooth 60 on the highest settings, I don’t really see the need to upgrade unless your pc is way too horrible to be able to even run the game I recommend you ignore the current specs needed because they’ve most likely judged it off of the early builds being played on, they’ve just entered the final development phase and they’re focusing heavily on optimisation, I believe fujioka stated this in an Italian interview

[@struckfluency]

Honestly that’s a fair stance to have. rx5700 isn’t too much weaker than a 2070 Super though. I’d say wait until the demo to see how it runs for you. Might be better than you think! Base PS5 GPU is similar to an rx5700 and a little weaker than the 2070S, so depending on your CPU it shouldn’t be too bad if you’re willing to play on slightly lowered settings.

[@isaacgarcia9234]

I changed a Ryzen 1700 and rx 580 for a 7800x3d and 7800 xtx my body is ready not matter what. I trust capcom will not mess their bigger title in years

[@struckfluency]

That’s a solid PC dude, you should be totally fine. 1080p or 1440p?

[@isaacgarcia9234]

@@struckfluency I hope will work for 1440p and 120 fps

[@shogunate6645]

I have two pcs with 5700x3d/6800xt and 5600x/6800 so I don’t think that will have trouble at medium but I like to play at higher settings so I’m worried. This just makes me more feverish for the demo.

[@babaganoush9237]

i think if you want to list your game on steam, you HAVE to list specs to do so and obviously they did. I have seen other games i followed to this and the hardware requirements have always been reduced at launch.

[@struckfluency]

what weapon you picking up first in Wilds? rathalos still gonna catch the sledge 🔨

[@GoofiusNgl]

Gs, hammer and maybe hh all look great, i'll be playing those

[@struckfluency]

@@GoofiusNgl hammer mains 🤝 GS mains

[@honeychonav4027]

Im considering CB and Bow!

[@Createnna]

I'm married to the lance, but MAN those hunting horn changes lookin real tasty

[@maldivesthegamer9774]

CB and gunlance for the win! If my laptop can handle the game at least

[@godly_potatoe69xd19]

Tbf, they did say the next 5 months literally are only for optimization since the game itself is already finished

[@struckfluency]

@@godly_potatoe69xd19 honestly that’s music to my ears. We already know the game is going to be great, if the get the optimization right we’re gonna see (more than) Worlds level of success and sales

[@meisterwu8922]

When was that said? You got any source?

[@godly_potatoe69xd19]

@@meisterwu8922 interview with ryozo a couple days ago that said they’re mostly doing work on optimization which is why theres been changes between demos technically, and there’s like minor changes going on in the background outside of that.

[@liloma20]

They just say what people want to ears it's always like that, they say everything is going to be fine on release, and then it's trash. I really like monster hunter, but I also know that if the dev are not able to optimize a game, that say a lot on their competence. Also, they already publish the recommended setting so the optimization they are doing right now is probably just to meet the recommended setting and not to make them better

[@godly_potatoe69xd19]

@@liloma20 they literally didn’t say it would be fine on release, they said they were working on it to “try” to make it better. Personally idrc if the performance is not great I’ll still enjoy it on console, I’m just telling you their words and you can do with that what you will

[@shambleshef]

With how other new releases are running on my system, I have my doubts as to how well this game runs. I'll be skipping launch and hoping for optimizations later on down the line. I've got plenty of other games to enjoy in the meantime. I still can't get World running smooth on my system despite exceeding the recommended specs. For example, I have this weird issue where when I play and start moving around, my character's movement stays 60fps, but the terrain starts stopping and then moving again (kinda like stuttering) whilst moving/traversing. I'm sure it's probably settings related stuff that I missed, but it's too distracting for me.

[@struckfluency]

Backlogs are everyone’s real endgame lol. The demo of Wilds could help you figure out if your setup can handle it enough to buy it on launch, but I feel you. Nothing wrong with waiting!

[@MysteriousStranger50]

HALF A YEAR WAITING Sad

[@OsmolskaeVelo]

if my pc can run elden ring + sote with ease, will it run wilds well? its a gaming laptop, but works rlly well when plugged in. I bet i'll manage, if on low settings, tho.

[@struckfluency]

Sounds like it could! Especially if you’re willing to play on lower settings and mess around with DLSS/FSR

[@OsmolskaeVelo]

@@struckfluency i am. whatever it takes to not have to ask my parents "hey, could you blow 700 on my addiction?" i checked dd2 and it seems like my system has enough for that (cpu or smth is actually at recommended level, surprisingly), so im confident about wilds, especially if they polish things up even more before release.

[@drakootherat1735]

Im sure its not the final recomended specs..right?

[@struckfluency]

Probably not! Check out the pinned comment, Capcom confirmed they’re focusing on optimizing the game leading up to launch. Could be great news or just good PR lol, but it’s nice to see.

[@Smexbi]

Performance concers, no matter which game from whatever company, are valid. Time & again we have seen these issues. MH Wilds targets 28th of february to make sure it hits their current fiscal year. In other Word, I'm sure, they really rushing the game out, to release it at the Last possible moment. Let's hope it will be enough.

[@struckfluency]

@@Smexbi to be fair I’m already struggling to wait until feb. 28th lmao. I’m hoping right there with you

[@elk3407]

I don't think so because they said that the last 6 months of development is mostly optimization. It doesn't sound like it's being rushed, and it will probably run better than the recommended requirements suggest (this was true of World once they fixed the PC port)

[@joshualuurtsema5806]

The Monster Hunter team also stood their ground to deny their investors a Christmas launch. It sounds to me like the team is steering this ship much more than most high developers are allowed to.

[@ToHonorKnowledge]

After watching like 30 videos of “experts” not being able to tell the difference between frame generation and non-frame generation, I think it’s people just looking to be mad for whatever reason they can find

[@Smexbi]

The issue is lag, not the visuals. Anything above 60fps is fine, but below 60 might cause issues with input lag. Even Nvidia & AMD recommend NOT to use framegen below 60fps. You have to imagine you press a button at a screen where the picture is fake for a moment. This can cause a disconection between Input & Output in the way the game feels for a player. Especially on lower frame rates, this issue will be more noticeable. If you use framegen to make an unstable 55-60fps stable at 60fps, you might be fine, but if you force a 20-25fps to a 60fps, that can (and probably will) impact how the game feels to you.

[@ToHonorKnowledge]

Again, people couldn’t tell. Either via visuals or gameplay. People just want to feel cool by pretending they can see the difference in 5 fps at age 50 even tho they can’t

[@junatanscott9457]

I think getting a PS5 will be more practical, 😿

[@struckfluency]

@@junatanscott9457 depends on how much of an upgrade your PC needs! But true that could be cheaper and more practical for most. hey it’s crossplay thankfully and PS5 can use discord now

[@efc2097]

4090 worth it?

[@struckfluency]

Depends on what you have now. IMO not really unless you have extra cash and want to really future proof. Next year could be the 5000 series launch though 🤷🏻‍♂️ I’d say 4070 super is probably “safe” enough if you’re just looking to play Wilds and other current titles. Or AMD cards, you can usually get more raw power per dollar without bells and whistles that route.

[@efc2097]

@@struckfluency for sure, thnx. Ill prob get it then. Kinda wanna stream it too

[@apexthelegend]

i dont see the problem with frame generation? if its better framerate, then its better framerate. and you dont even notice any actual differences

[@struckfluency]

Frame generation itself isn’t bad, but depending on it in order to run a game at 60 fps under medium settings isn’t a great look IMO. Frame gen could also have issues like input latency or visual ghosting. I trust that Capcom is gonna optimize Wilds in time though 🙏🏼

[@bonkgameing]

The problem is that you’ll be playing with the latency of 30fps while seeing 60. It’ll be much harder to react to things, and also the visual quality is much blurrier, especially at 30fps. Frame gen is supposed to help people at 60-72fps already reach 120-144fps because you don’t notice the blurring and artifacts that frame gen creates at such high framerates.

[@apexthelegend]

@@bonkgameing ive used frame gen in other games with the same type of combat. and i really dont notice any latency issues, dont know if thats just me though, valid concern i guess