Monster In-Law Is Crying CROCODILE TEARS After I Forced Her To Drop The Act r/Relationships

[@jackieripper9358]

"Which lead to possible charges of miscarrage" What a truly dystopian sentence...

[@fallingawayfromthenorm]

Right, like fuck the ex but that’s next level scary for anyone with a uterus.

[@CanonSkyrissian]

yeah for real. screw the girl but that's honestly frightening.

[@Kujata55]

Welcome to America. You get murder charges for having a miscarriage.

[@damien678]

I just can't stop thinking about how one side of my family medically have higher chances of miscarriage. I, thankfully, am in Australia. But it's truly disgusting

[@jackieripper9358]

@@Kujata55 yeah, the handmaids tale wasn't supposed to be a step by step instructions...

[@winters0lider976]

My step grandma took my dad's oldest because of "Grandparents rights" and he refused to ever leave me alone with her. She would ask me stuff like "do you want to go to Disney world with us?" "Oh how about we take you to Florida with us?" 100% a kidnap plan especially since my parents weren't allowed to join

[@reallyisay]

I'd like to hear that story..full updates please

[@winters0lider976]

@@reallyisay which part of it lol

[@GiordanDiodato]

how did the grandmother pass the mental evaluation?

[@MissSnakelover225]

@@winters0lider976 How about every part? Like, that seems so intense and I would love to hear more!

[@maybae5963]

Wrd like did your dad ever get your oldest back? Was the oldest at least ok?

[@norma8686]

There are some mothers that when they don't have a husband anymore, get so attached to their son that start to think of him as their husband. Sadly my grandma had this problem. She once had told my stepmom that she (my grandma) and my dad were like husband and wife in everything except sleeping together. My stepmom lost it and told my dad to set his mother straight, which he did and she started crying. My mother-in-law is trying to do the same thing to my husband but he is minimizing contact with her. This problem is much more common that one might think.

[@pippo17173]

its honestly disturbing to me because if that is the case, isn't that committing some form of incest there? Like jesus christ women that your own off spring for christ sakes.

[@AIBot929]

@@pippo17173 It's considered emotional incest and yup still gross

[@Metal_Mouth]

@@pippo17173 It's called emotional incest and I see it a lot in these MiL/FiL stories. It's when you put the emotional support you usually get from a romantic partner onto your child. It's gross, selfish, and destructive. And a lot of adults who do this creates co-dependency on their kid and it tends to destroy the child's romantic life.

[@D-me-dream-smp]

Yep it’s been recognised as a psychological disorder- emotional incest where there is no physical/sexual element but otherwise the child is treated as a substitute partner - in a practical and emotional sense and obviously usually involves a lot of guilt, manipulation and coercion. It can also occur irrelevant of gender since it’s where they rely heavily on the child for emotional support, make them feel responsible for making them happy/fixing their problems and burdening them by confiding about adult problems or issues. It’s common in narcissistic parents.

[@kanelovec4315]

Story 2. Even with out full context. They said gf has done this before. This was planned. You left and a party was just going happen that day as well. This woman just doing this for a power play. This isn't just food it's a product. It's like her going into a studio and taking a knife to canvasses. Then saying she wasn't to blame because they were hormonal. Update: So it was a gold digging baby trap. Glad op dumped her butt.

[@WobblesandBean]

He's still an idio† for letting her move in with him in the first place. He knew she didn't work, knew she was lazy, selfish, and entitled, but let her waltz on into his home anyway. 🤦‍♀️

[@pippo17173]

@@WobblesandBean Ya that is on him. I can't believe he never saw this and I hate how he said *We have no problems before, so I don't understand why she did this.* DUDE She did that because you were a sucker. She saw what she got when you live in a fucking bakery and knew what she was getting. He was so damn lucky this women was so easy to read on other wise he would of been the one in jail instead.

[@MrJpaynebb]

@@WobblesandBean sometimes love makes a person blind but in this case it was rose colored glasses that the ex finally broke with her own behavior. It cost OP $1000 in sales + labor and time of himself and employees but in the end it got him out of a toxic relationship with a goldigger and a liar.

[@marywilson3157]

I looked up charges of miscarriage, and, I'm not BSing you, there is such a thing!! Now we all have to sheepishly apologize to OP for doubting him on this! Sorry OP! And hope you find a normal, non psycho SO in the future! Charges of Miscarriage! Who knew???

[@bigz3483]

What exactly is charges of miscarriage?

[@deballen7031]

Holy shite!!!! I'm really, REALLY hoping it's not that kind of insanity.

[@keninam3305]

@@bigz3483 where a woman can get in trouble with the police if she has a miscarriage because they may think she caused it herself by trying to induce one

[@charliekezza]

@@keninam3305 I think it needs a little updating to babytraps, catfishing, fakes, trying to say it's the wrong guys baby(intentionally) ect ect ect

[@tennesseedogpack]

@@bigz3483it’s for when the mom is a drug user and contributes to the miscarriage

[@mztweety1374]

This is SVU levels of emotional incest. Moms if you love em, let em go and let em grow. I really wanted my sons ex to be my daughter in law. It didn't work out. I said I was sorry and let it drop. They won't always do what we think is best, its important to let them decide.

[@alexandriamarlow773]

On the second story, when a female becomes pregnant depending on the state you can be charged for intentionally causing a miscarriage based on behaviors exhibits. Alabama has a law that gives a fetus human rights and you can be arrested for murder in some cases. THIS WAS EVEN BEFORE RvW WAS OVERTURNED.

[@lindajennens9033]

😧😲

[@torukurebayashi1960]

america makes me sick

[@rebag3545]

What the fuuuuuck

[@mimiNana-yi4cy]

also, the "legal" term for having an abortion in a state that has banned it is probably, "causing a miscarriage".

[@ashleymcgaha5794]

I live in texas and charges of miscarriage is definitely a thing. If they find drugs or alcohol in your system as the cause of a miscarriage you can get serious jail time. And this was prior to woe being overturned now even a medical abortion after 6 weeks is illegal not just the ones they found are done in "malice"

[@jam2727]

That's terrifying

[@amemooress6291]

What. The. Fuck

[@kyriacarica5862]

That’s’ messed up! Do they know how many women do stuff they aren’t supposed to do when pregnant because they had no idea they were pregnant to begin with?! Sleepy jumped right out of me just reading this!

[@MeetTheALFFam]

What if there were no drugs/alcohol found and no cause could be determined?

[@cgi2002]

@@MeetTheALFFam that was acceptable (note the was). There are some countries were any miscarriage can be treated as intentional and the prison sentences are extremely harsh. They all tend to be highly Christian countries with poor healthcare availability to the poor (sound similar). The US still has a few protections in place that would stop this, but there are people actively working to remove those (in an attempt to make it illegal to have FDA approved "at home" medications from other states, amoung other things) along with the rights of pregnant women to seek medical treatment in other states (possibly by making it illegal for them to cross state lines), sadly these people are gradually making progress still. The rest of the world is watching what's going on in the conservative US states with frankly a look of shock and disgust at the gradual removal of the rights of half the population, rights that basically everyone else now takes as sacrosanct (even parts of the bloody catholic church accept them).

[@manxiefeathermoon9888]

Charges of miscarriage? What the flying fuck? How do you charge a woman with a miscarriage? A woman can't stop that from happening.

[@jay2thaudy]

It's either the middle east or Alabama

[@kichikitsu]

Unfortunately, if this was in America, then it likely doesn't matter. Miscarriages are medically recognized as abortions and therefore illegal in far too many states now. Anyone that fails to carry a fetus to term under any condition can be investigated for murder.

[@tennesseedogpack]

It’s for even drug use etc contributes to the miscarriage

[@paden1865able]

As a single mother, Nora should understand boundaries. You are NOT an incubator, you are a mother bringing a new life into the world and you're going to raise TOUR child. If your SO doesn't want to lose the family he's building with you, he should always have your back. Good to know he has a spine. She's bonkers.

[@kittyfox7]

Wow that’s horrible to be so inconsiderate to your partner by eating all their hard work. I’m glad he’s pressing charges.

[@taylorwashington7682]

I'm not trying to victim blame here but did neither OPs see the red flags before they got too serious with their respective partners. OPs 1 fiance: "Oh my mother treated all of my exes like crap but that's just how she is lol!" Girl that was a sign! OP 2: "My gf is a freeloader who expects handouts. She sits in the house I pay for while she contributes nothing." At what point do you tell your SO to either get with the program or they can get out. Certainly not 3 years

[@sagesmith1734]

It's really easy to say "could they not see the red flags?" with hindsight and being an outside spectator, but interactions and emotions run differently when you're living your life at the moment, and your brain is trying not to come up with the worst answers for every little thing.

[@vanzy01]

👍

[@gaaraxnaru]

@@sagesmith1734 It's not really h8ndsight when that stuff is told to you/shown to you right from the get-go.

[@ratoim]

First OP: MIL: Bears false witness in front of the church and interferes in a marriage via emotional incest. OP: Don't do that. Flying Monkey: Don't attack her religious faith!

[@damien678]

Also, "fun" fact: thousands of US women have been jailed for miscarriage since late last year, even before Roe v Wade got overturned

[@user-fg4tn8ot6b]

"Chuck a prawn at the Barbie." Now, I noticed you meant BBQ. Damn it. ಥ‿ಥ Story one: OP is not attacking the unhinged woman's faith; she's defending her role as a mother to the upcoming baby! The way the MIL speaks of the future child sounds like she wants to steal it and do the parenting herself! Creepy. 😰 After update: Yep. Her behavior towards that baby is creepy. I'm glad this family is taking measures to avoid having this woman near the kid. 😬 Story two: *Wtf!* They gorged on his work! Yeah! Press charges! No mercy for them! And no "baby cravings" will save her from them! *Since* *there* *is* *no* *baby!* ರ╭╮ರ

[@phoenixsky6124]

😂😂😂😂

[@courtney.marlene]

I had a bakery & one time my husband ate a cupcake out of an order I had. That meant I had to make at least another 1/2 batch of batter to replace it & didn't have any more of the decorations I had made to top them with. I cried over that, so I think something like what OP's ex GF did would probably give me a full blown panic attack. Husband felt terrible, the order was for a friend, so I made them at home instead of the kitchen, so he really thought I had just made 'just because' cupcakes as I often frequently do, so at least it was an honest mistake.

[@WobblesandBean]

18:20 Wait...."possible charges of miscarriage"? Where on earth does OP live where it's a crime to miscarry, especially in the first trimester? That means there's a chance she truly was pregnant and lied to escape the added charges. Either way, thank bacon that no child will be stuck having her as a mother.

[@nyxspiritsong5557]

I wondered myself.... according to my Google search.....El Salvador is a strong possibility.

[@hellkitelord8319]

@@nyxspiritsong5557 The USA as well depending on the state.

[@emsmith.]

The idea is ludicrous

[@WobblesandBean]

@@hellkitelord8319 At least NOW. 😞 I'm ashamed to be an american right now, and scared to be a woman in america.

[@heatherdickau5335]

I think it might mean missconduct As in a misscarrage of justice. Unless the country has a law against faking pregnancy.

[@Akiku2]

My parents raised me and my siblings to be independent, but to also know we can turn to them if we need help or advice. They are the model of amazing parents.

[@LittleDuckOfPower]

Markee is the only man in the world that can talk about horrendous shit and STILL be so relaxing to listen to

[@phoenixsky6124]

$1000 in theft. Charge them!

[@phoenixsky6124]

Wait what?? Charges of miscarriage? Where is this?

[@deballen7031]

Don't worry, I'm hoping it's not how it sounds. At first I freaked out a bit, too but if you read from the bottom of the comments up you'll understand what the potential fuss is about.

[@HighPhoenix1754]

Story 1: Hope husband sticks by wife on this. Story 2: that was.. a rollercoaster. Holy Moley. His ex is insane. Hope he can recover financially.. dang.

[@kanelovec4315]

Story 1. Uhmmm did you not see the red flags of the fiance saying his mother treated every partner he had like she does you. I hope you fiance grew a spine because mother is thinking she is the wife here.

[@starbird3939]

Story 2 - NTA She stole from OP's business. Update: SHE LIED, stole from OP's business, and BROKE INTO OP'S HOUSE when he called the police?! Aw hell no!

[@mbyerly9680]

And the Jocasta has entered the relationship. These OPs need to wise up about their SO. You're not their f'ing broodmare for their creepy mom.

[@theroyalbugness]

Oh I needed this today Markee thank you! I have several chronic health conditions and I am on KZbin a lot. I'm having a particularly bad flare-up these last few days and I almost cried in relief seeing your post this morning. Thank you Markee!!

[@WobblesandBean]

As a fellow chronic illness sufferer, you have my empathy. Please take care, and I hope you feel better soon 💜

[@theroyalbugness]

@@WobblesandBean thank you! I hope you are doing well yourself!

[@minimochi2206]

Chronic pain suffer here! Having a really bad flare up today so I hear ya.. sending 🫂

[@theroyalbugness]

@@minimochi2206 💜💜💜💜 sending love and positive vibes back!

[@littleplague5988]

Aww I hope you're doing well despite the pain 💜💜 I suffer from chronic pain myself and I know how much it can wear on you. I wish everyone here positive vibes because everyone could use some positivity in their lives 💜💜

[@GeorgeGiann]

Story 1: I'm afraid that the fiance not only will be indeed feeding his mother information, in the end he will blame OP for creating the 'issue'. I do hope I'm wrong.. I really do.

[@earlinejackson8151]

Baker op should have had them arrested and charged for unlawful entry and theft ! Then sue her to recoup the lost income and compensate for reputation damage.

[@deballen7031]

Yep. That would give her and her friends food for thought.

[@maryellen9503]

I just want you to know that I am so happy that you're around. when I feel sad or anxious, I go to one of your videos and just your voice is so soothing.

[@crichtonbruce4329]

Great Stories Markee. On the first story: As the JNML was involving her church in spreading her insanity, SOMETIMES, depending on the quality church and it's pastor, OP and her partner could have gone to the pastor of the church and informed him of the woman's crazy. Lot's of pastors will at least try and prevent their churches from being a place were such lies and manipulation is spread. The really good pastors will help any way they can. There are, unfortunately, many churches that this is NOT a good idea, as they might well come down on the loony mothers side.

[@grinningweirdo4888]

I’m betting anything that the baker was a very happy chappy finding out he never but a bun in that oven

[@deballen7031]

😂lol!

[@shellchenonceau6987]

Birds of the moocher-feathered kind tend to flock together.

[@devchekhov7512]

It's not a crime to have a miscarriage. Wtf my sister would have been in jail at least once.

[@mrs.h2725]

It is in fact a crime in some countries ruled by religious bs, and is becoming that way in nazigop states here. TX has jailed women for miscarriages. It’s common to have to have a D&C to remove the dead fetus material, so they’re trying to claim that counts as abortion. Docs in TX and other states are now refusing to treat women with pregnancy complications due to the risk of criminal charges. The nazigops are turning their states into Taliban level of control over women.

[@hellkitelord8319]

In some countries it is and sense RVW overturned some states might have put it into the law. TBH was the first I heard of it but, it doesn't surprise me.

[@bakeranita6040]

I think it is because he said she was drunk at the party

[@MargaritaOnTheRox]

Everything about that last story made me angry. The lazy girlfriend. The taking her friends to the bakery to break in and eat a thousand dollars worth of work with no consideration. The charges of miscarriage. The lying about being pregnant. Seriously, the only good part is that OP got rid of her and is pressing charges.

[@velveteenrabbit5940]

Wait wait CHARGES FOR MISCARRIAGE?? Is that a thing?? Can you be arrested for losing a baby??!!

[@MargaritaOnTheRox]

Apparently you can if they feel like it was your fault you miscarried.

[@velveteenrabbit5940]

@@MargaritaOnTheRox There is no such thing as a faulted miscarriage wtf

[@MargaritaOnTheRox]

@@velveteenrabbit5940 Look up Brittney Poolaw. Chelsea Becker. Adora Pérez. Latice Fisher.

[@naptime1900]

Keep all the information in a safe place because you will need it in the near future. Text, voice or video. Get nanny cams before the baby is born.

[@tovelokiwifeodindottir9936]

Charge of miscarriage is a real thing. My niece is currently facing that because she passed out and fell down the stairs. Didn't know she was 13 weeks pregnant. In our state it no longer matters whether it was attempted or accidental.

[@shebakoby]

story 2: OP learned way late that he should never, EVER, *EVER* stick it in crazy. Sounds like many marinara flags were ignored prior to this.

[@nocause5395]

Second one, dude got lucky but two things, one that I always emphasize to my cousin. Birth control isn't 100% and it only 99% effective if taken properly, meaning at the exact same time every single day. 2nd thing:. Charges of miscarriage.....AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH

[@GIChiyo]

Story 2: That is theft, press charges

[@josephtucker7181]

Should have charged her and her friends with breaking and entering trespassing and stealing and sue don't let her and friends get away with this. Doesn't matter if she is pregnant that doesn't give her a get out of free card

[@Mscrimsondragon]

It makes asking yourself if that 1 more pastry calling your name is really worth it to a whole new level 😂😂!

[@mickymcbryan4814]

Kinda disgusting that “charges of miscarriage” was even on the table before she admitted the truth. But you know, the worlds a hell scape now so, believable…

[@kyriacarica5862]

No, no. I can’t rest until someone explains “charges for MISCARRIAGE” to me. What the actual hell?? Does this mean what I think it means? (PS. Not a US citizen)

[@LillyianPuppy]

Ok, but a FEW of their condoms broke?? Did he get Dollar Tree condoms 8 years ago and keep them on his dashboard in the sun this whole time? Was he doubling up mistakingly thinking it's safer? Was his father a blue whale? (I'm focusing on that instead of the emotional trauma of women now being "charged with miscarriage.")

[@Yakerina]

... charged with miscarriage? That sounds like something the police automatically went to, not the OP's fault.

[@shersmk90]

What is a charge of miscarriage even? your body lose the baby out of your control and you need to go for jail for that??? Please tell me that this is not what it means!

[@catpatrick3838]

I think the last story charge of miscarriage was maybe something the police just came up with to get the baby trapping GF to admit she had never been pregnant...unless there is a country out there in the world that views miscarriage as a crime? 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@taylorwashington7682]

The way things are going nowadays I'm sure miscarriage is probably a crime somewhere

[@ergotempusvernum]

Women have been imprisoned in Texas for having a miscarriage.

[@mimi.dixon.b]

Steadily increasing in the states,women have charged with fetal harm for everything from fainting and falling down the stairs (because they ‘suspected’ it was intentional) to forcing someone with addiction issues to carry and then arresting them for use resulting in miscarriage or still birth,I assume as more post roe laws are enacted,it will be more…in essence ‘land of the free 😑’

[@montserrathagraz7908]

There are a lot of countries that view miscarriage as a crime, sadly

[@mrs.h2725]

This is becoming a thing now in a lot of nazigop states. They’re already banning abortion in cases of SA including incest, some politician in I think KY right now is trying to bring criminal charges against a 10 y/o incest victim and the doctor who performed the abortion, even releasing the doc’s name publicly hoping for a lynch mob. When women have miscarriages (I’ve had 2) we usually need to have a D&C to remove the dead fetus material or else we can die. The nazigop states are wanting to ban that procedure and have women jump through hoops to prove it’s a miscarriage. Docs in TX and other states are refusing to treat women with pregnancy complications now because of the fear of criminal charges. Scary times for us ladies.

[@ytl9558]

$1000 worth of damages is heartbreaking but I'm so happy he didn't have a baby with her

[@tugglemiles2991]

Send a bill to all that group.

[@jaggirl]

Reminds me of my mother and her fake emotions.

[@janglesthearsonist5265]

Story 3: The charge of miscarriage is only when you purposefully attempts to have a miscarriage. An example is if a woman drank herself into alcohol poisoning while knowing she was pregnant and as a result miscarried. There needs to be prior knowledge of the pregnancy.

[@bricksloth6920]

Wow. Relationships and crazy people. Between title story mother in law and story two ex girlfriend this is a trip

[@anno_mundi]

We need the update when it comes!!

[@amemooress6291]

My brain screeched to a hault at the words "possible charges of miscarriage." Um. Excuse me?

[@addicted2mako]

You could say that the ex in story two got her…just desserts😎

[@kristinwiebold2433]

story 1. OP NTA. If Andrew's mom doesn't like you, you can't force her. But she does need to know that with hating and treating you badly it cuts her access to her grandbaby. Grandma has no right to baptize or do religious things without both parents permission. Going behind their back with have severe consequences.

[@cappucosmico]

Charges Of Fucking Miscarriage... jesus christ, the woman sucks, but imagine being a pregnant individual and losing your baby, a tragedy on its own, and then being charged for it. we literally live in hell

[@TTtiger373]

We’ve been in hell. I remember only 3 years ago Woman was charged with manslaughter because she got shot in the stomach which caused a miscarriage. Not the person who shot her, SHE, the gun shot victim, got charged.

[@deballen7031]

@@TTtiger373 OMG, what? That cannot be right, surely!🤯

[@SkyEcho751]

"Charges of Miscarriage" isn't a thing from what I can find. He might have misheard and it's "charges of attempted paternity fraud" or "Charges of medical fraud", something like that. Those would actually make sense.

[@user-kl8lo6rj5i]

If it's in the USA, there are now some states where she could be charged. Texas and Alabama, Ohio...

[@sequoyasierra5671]

SECOND STORY Guarantee her friends took some of the pastries home with them. OP is well within his rights to kick her out. He can't have someone around who is so careless with his business reputation. Who is going to pay for that baby if OP doesn't have clients to keep his business going? OP was not wrong to kick her out.

[@Tijggie82]

"charged for a miscarriage"... excuse me???? horrible!

[@fcold9402]

$1000 worth of product is a felony. NTA.

[@charliekezza]

Poor guy losing his imaginary baby, he would have been bonding at it. Losing a pregnancy sucks, even if it was fake, but dude is super lucky that she is NOT his babymumma

[@simac8396]

I really hope "charges of miscarriage" is a google translate error.

[@manxiefeathermoon9888]

Story two: so eating a bunch of food, yes is wrong, that suddenly she cheated and he needs a paternity test

[@jhawkins4412]

I love that Reddit degree in psychology! That's in the same town as School of hard knocks is it not! LOL

[@brandonshelp4682]

"Single moms are so brave and great!" Well... when they treat their sons as surrogate husbands and do psychological damage... not so much.

[@deballen7031]

🤣 lmao

[@bridgetdebourgh5698]

Good Morning Markee sweet dreams 😴 Have a great day/night everyone 👋🤗

[@SyntheticCupcake]

"Charge of miscarriage" Jesus Christ, the ex in the second story was a right C U Next Tuesday but the real villain here is the US law system. Wow.

[@user-kl8lo6rj5i]

It seems like most people, even those who are very conservative, don't realize how restrictive our access to reproductive care is becoming in the US. The people who so badly want to outlaw access to abortion and even contraception are doing everything they can to sneak their punitive, oppressive desires into law in any way they can. A lot of things have happened behind the scenes and few people have noticed. Now R v W is gone and there is nothing stopping the US from becoming another backward misogynistic nightmare like you see in some parts of the world that we like to point fingers at. The "right" has a lot of good points, but that isn't one of them.

[@heatherdickau5335]

The last story. The charges of miscarriage might mean something like miss conduct not pregnancy. Unless they have a law against faking pregnancy. Don't know what country this is.

[@KE-hr4sb]

S1: Sadly we see it too often in these single mom stories where they grow inappropriately attached to their sons and act like son's partner is an interloper in their relationship. (I'm not saying ALL single moms, I was one.) She doesn't get to be a "hands-on grandma" when she's rude to you, sorry. Your bf needs to put a stop to her passive-aggressive Jocasta behavior, or this relationship is going to be a nightmare of her constantly boundary stomping and treating you like an incubator and live-in caretaker for *their* child while he excuses it. Make sure Melinda has the right story, sounds like MIL embellished it a bit. You didn't say anything about her religion, that's just her excuse to make YOU sound unhinged. I'm also pretty upset at your SO, who knew this was going on, didn't tell you, and when you confronted him for the second time about her behavior, finally admitted it was "off." He's never going to stand up to her, and has made that clear with his actions. Regardless, don't let MIL around the child or she can claim grandparent's rights. "She deserves an explanation for how she is being treated"? So do you. "...trying to stop that is being a bad parent." NO. Shut this down hard, this is the groundwork for her calling CPS on you. Allowing someone this unhinged around your baby, would be being a bad parent.

[@cindykq8086]

I always wanted to be the best MIL on the planet because my own MIL hated me--she gave me lessons all our time together in things I would never do or say to my kids-in-law. The crazy MIL in the story 100% caused the bad relationship and cut herself off from her grandchild. I bet her church isn't impressed with her, either.

[@chezshirecat1872]

My ex mother in law didn’t like the name I gave to my son. I told her she had no vote and gave the name I picked for my son. She was always mad I didn’t baptize him, but I don’t believe so why would I?

[@kasuihikari]

Everyone is thinking it’s miscarriage of the baby but in reality when you’re charged with miscarriage it’s “miscarriage of justice”basically lying to someone or trying to trap them with false pretenses.

[@deballen7031]

Thank you for the more plausible and sensible explanation. For a minute there I really thought that there were women being locked up for being unable to carry to term, my head damn near exploded!

[@CatoNovus]

"Charges of Miscarriage" Without knowing location, laws, and further circumstances, all I can provide is conjecture. That said, such charges can exist in jurisdictions in which an individual can be convicted of two counts of murder when killing a pregnant woman. This can even exist in places where one can legally acquire an abortion by having the abortion process regulated, much like you don't just let random people perform an appendectomy on themselves, a self-service abortion can be extremely dangerous. Similarly, they don't want Corn-Beef Carl to perform discount medical operations(not just abortions) out in the back alley behind Hardee's. This scenario is extremely dangerous and ill-advised.

[@damien678]

"possible charges of miscarriage" is real disgusting. pigs ain't your friends

[@user-kl8lo6rj5i]

In this case, it's the law that isn't your friend. The police have nothing to say about it.

[@Jeremy-The-Bullfrog]

I can't shake the feeling OP in story 1 acted based on a misunderstanding.

[@deballen7031]

Hi. This one's full of the old ' nitty gritty ' nasty situations, I'd say. Thank you for a good dose of distraction for my evening.

[@willow8186]

Charges of miscarriage? What is that even supposed to mean? Jesus.

[@candiebarr6745]

"Possible charges of miscarriage"? Did OP say what country they were in?

[@agroteraaaa]

....why was story 2 op even with someone he clearly knew was irresponsible, lazy, and all around immature?

[@nimisilverbird1239]

Nta. She was living rent free in your place. She broke into the shop and stole the goods. She is responsible for paying for all of it. Ops father should press charges for breaking and entering and theft of goods. With its cost being so high it is a felony. The ex and all her friends can share a cell block. In no way is OP wrong

[@antipodias6672]

So like... I know pregnancy cravings are a thing, but your friends don't get them too. So many pastries might be bad for baby in a way, but if it's the only thing you can keep down then it's better than nothing. I cried when my fiance ate my last fudgesicle and didn't replace the box because they were the only things I could hold down until I was actually medicated.

[@Salazarsalsa]

18:23 she's crazy, but possible charges of miscarriage? They are definitely stateside.

[@shebakoby]

story 1: the MiL is definitely some personality-disordered individual. Not sure which one but heavy on the narcissisms in any case.

[@kristinwiebold2433]

Glad OP Charged his ex and her friends for entering into the bakery and eating 1000 dollars of pastries. Ex saying it was all for the baby is bs. Sorry she messed up your home but glad she is getting charged for that too. Glad you now know that her pregnancy was fake too. Must be a lot to deal with but I hope your bakery business still flourishes. Keep looking forwards and good things will happen.

[@brothersgt.grauwolff6716]

Story #2 anyone remember that meme about the Possum that broke into a bakery and gorged itself on pastries that's what I'm imagining as I read this post 😆 I hope the OP holds no offense

[@skyelindsey687]

The faked pregnancy one, if she does something that harmed the fetus & caused the miscarriage then she could’ve been charged because she did stuff that she knew could potentially cause a spontaneous abortion

[@Nope148]

I'm sorry, did OP say "possible charges for miscarriage?"

[@brparis5964]

I looked it up and couldn't find anything on charges of miscarriage, but maybe it has something to do with not properly disposing of a biohazard? I'd imagine other things would be charges of abortion.

[@b.c.9358]

Yo what the fuck are charges of miscarriage? How does that work???

[@alicewilloughby4318]

Story 2 - Update - "... possible charges of miscarriage." Huh? They can charge someone for having a miscarriage? Is it a mealymouthed way of say abortion? I'm clearly missing something here.

[@victoriamiranda-stotelmyre4382]

Lol 😂 I too have a Reddit degree in psychology.

[@prollie6043]

(Story 2 update) Charge of miscarriage? We’re these a “special” kind of pastries?

[@chitenshi22]

The charges of miscarriage part really throws me off. Who tf has the right to press charges for a miscarriage?? No one can control whether you miscarry a fetus or not. Lol stupid legal shit

[@hibiscusrose6074]

Yaaaay for story 2 get in there pastry chef get all your money. As for the harass of miss carriage he may have been saying abortion! Remember if his in the US R v W tha was over turned?

[@hothotheat3000]

Yup, this is what happens when a woman has a son and not a husband. She gets extra territorial because her son IS her man, in her mind. No wonder she is so jealous. Her behavior is no different than the “female BFF” stories we always hear about.

[@telinhajp]

Hi Markee! ❤️

[@sablemoreno5095]

Ok, everyone freaking out about the charges of miscarriage: it's a law/precedent meant to stop people from purposefully committing acts they know will cause them to loose the pregnancy without an actual abortion It's not meant just because you loose a pregnancy. Yes, it has been misused at times, but theres instances for EVERY law where that's happened. It's meant for situations where abortion is illegal past a certain point and the mother is "maliciously" committing acts she knows will harm/loose the child. A good, but also not, case is one where the mother had a drug issue. She had drugs in her system which COULD have caused the miscarriage, but the medical reports in the end said that wasn't the cause. (The charges went forward and she got jail time, so also an example of it being misused) Other examples are those being charged because they lost the pregnancy, but had previously (within a time frame of like 2 weeks) been looking up ways for an abortion; those "at home" abortions, and things like that. It's meant for cases like that, where there's some kind of proof that it was on purpose (after the specific window had passed, and not a medical necessity) For the case of OP, it could be those charges because of the break up, him attempting to press charges, and such. [I don't know exactly what they would have tried to argue since idk the state] it most likely though was only a scare tactic, as they suspected she never was pregnant. (Side note, how far along was she supposed to be? I saw someone say first trimester, but I didn't catch what/if the OP said)

[@melissawittman]

Last story: It means "miscarriage of justice", NOT a baby. Come on people, read the law sometime.

[@sequoyasierra5671]

FIRST STORY OP needs to keep the kid with this woman. She is going to say bad things about OP to the kid. I see nowhere in the post that OP said anything bad about MIL's faith. I think MIL is scary. Possibly a restraining order is needed. Also, OP should never trust a change of heart in this woman. To play nice nice just to get access to the child is well in this woman's wheelhouse.