More old canning shed cleaning! The reason that cleaning this shed became so important was to create a space to lock valuables and antiques up. Since thieves decided to pay the ole Byrd Farm a visit. Should I have worn a mask in here? You betcha! Thankfully this was filmed weeks ago, and I’m ok. Don’t worry next time I worked in there.... I wore a mask Filmed by Walter Mallard Help Save The Byrd House: www.paypal.me/rwrightphotography Mail: Sidestep Adventures PO Box 206 Waverly Hall, Georgia 31831
@elisesmith43313 жыл бұрын
Could it be soapstone?
@claudecamp70693 жыл бұрын
You
@adrianagomez-bravo3373 жыл бұрын
Lung diseases don't show up in weeks. You are not only kicking up a lot of dust, but old lead paint, old everything that back when was not regulated. And the RAT droppings! Ewwww....Wear a mask!
@barbaraweidenhammer76443 жыл бұрын
It’s a shame that people think it’s ok to come to your Farm and self serve, what ever they like.
@marywright67593 жыл бұрын
Sorry thieves are visiting. Please wear a good filtering mask. Lots of lead paint around.
@gaylewilliamson91833 жыл бұрын
All those jars puts me in mind if when I was a kid.My mom filled a no.2wash tub with hot soapy water and us kids soaked and scrubbed fruit jars while grown ups prepared fruit or veggies for canning. Great memories😀❤️
@sheilaborring96343 жыл бұрын
It’s a sad day when people have to come steal things. Love watching this canning kitchen being put back together. Keep up the good work.
@herdfan6972783 жыл бұрын
I really like your respect and honor you show to our people and our artifacts from a bygone era!
@jeffjohnson40153 жыл бұрын
We were both so happy you had your gloves on today, it's fun to find things hidden on your place. We kept hoping nothing was going to fall on you when you starting taking the roof down. Can't wait for the next adventure
@LifeMostSouthern3 жыл бұрын
I hate that people are stealing stuff, that sucks. That she’d is awesome. I was thinking, you reckon those bricks may have been the base for a canning stove. Those old cast iron stoves have to have something like that or they will just go through the floor. We had one once and had to get a special thing for it to sit on. Just a thought. That floor could about use a muck shovel. Haha
@cindyhernandez1523 жыл бұрын
Good call! I was thinking the same thing!
@khanysafan17053 жыл бұрын
I thought of that, too. Or, it could have just been a pile of bricks someone threw in there after they fixed the chimney.
@mikebransden4523 жыл бұрын
Yes that's my thinking. A base for an old canning stove which was coal burning!
@amberdawn26013 жыл бұрын
That was my guess as well. There's a patch in the roof above the brick pile, which could've been where the chimney (smoke stack? pipe? not sure what the right word is) went through.
@danieleprice1913 жыл бұрын
Looks like you got projects 'til you can't stand no more. Weekenders for a year and a half!
@Fasciseus3 жыл бұрын
Back in the early 1960s one of my uncles bought a farm in northeast Nebraska. While cleaning out the chicken coop he discovered several planks in the floor that were loose. He pulled the planks up and discovered a nicely bricked out cellar beneath the chicken coop floor. He inquired around town and was told the owner during the years of prohibition made alcohol, and his still was in that room, hidden from the feds. I would imagine the smell of the chicken manure scattered over the floor would cover up the smell of the still if the authorities came with dogs to sniff out alcohol.
@larrymccready67783 жыл бұрын
My wife's grandfather burried money in his garage. Just a thought. Metal detect it. And get a dust mask, they are easy to find.
@sallyintucson3 жыл бұрын
I used to know a gal who helped her grandfather bury money in mason jars on his property. There’s now a house on top of where the money is buried.
@ranchstockstray86843 жыл бұрын
How about using a heavy tined rake to pull that floor debris away? My ocd tendency wants to focus on one thing at a time. Clean out floor before moving on to pulling things down or throw out old wooden junk. Clear one area at a time. Interesting finds. History puzzle pieces.
@williamkeith89443 жыл бұрын
That's not OCD, it's just thorough work instead of halfway doing projects and having to reshuffle debris numerous times.
@sandrasmith85183 жыл бұрын
I'm with you
@kp55193 жыл бұрын
Haha! I am the same.
@freckles37053 жыл бұрын
I have Attention deficit and he shows the same symptoms of being easily distracted from one goal to another.
@maggiereese10533 жыл бұрын
The horse tack you found around the 2 min mark is a part of a hames to go around the collar and the trace chains hook to it. Obviously, at one time, lots of plowing with horses or mules went on there on the farm.
@smurph49593 жыл бұрын
Yes! Of course! Thanks for that ... I should have known as I've helped my Dad tack up his plough horses ... he doesn't need to know 🙈😁
@michaelmccaffrey27313 жыл бұрын
I believe it's the tug and yoke. The hames are usually curved and go over the collar . It's been a long time since I've driven a wagon and I only did a couple of times back then.
@michaelmccaffrey27313 жыл бұрын
I believe it's the tug and yoke. The hames are usually curved and go over the collar . It's been a long time since I've driven a wagon and I only did a couple of times back then.
@erin25352 жыл бұрын
Fascinating, thanks!
@sewhappysarahr89123 жыл бұрын
Robert, I love your videos. I think I recognized Brian's voice as the camera man. Thank you for all you do! Maybe a garden rake would be a good way to safely scrape through that debris on the floor.
@gaylewilliamson91833 жыл бұрын
The brick was for a coal or wood stove to set on.Also the canning shed was used so the whole house wouldn't get so hot I personally have a canning room.its wonderfully to have love your videos 👍👍❤️
@Sister3253 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Gayle. I imagine cooking and simmering would be done in out buildings regularly, especially in the warm, humid months. Enjoying watching these, too.
@leannesmith36603 жыл бұрын
My grandparents home has what Grandma called the Summer Kitchen. While canning, you didn't heat up the house and could not cook a meal.
@bradrichards61073 жыл бұрын
Things are coming along nicely, Robert. The canning shed will be tip top with a new floor installed. I am enjoying this series about your adventures on the old Byrd farm.
@williamkeith89443 жыл бұрын
That numbered slate was a fire brick in the old original stove. That enameled door from a stove with the St Louis address is from a later stove (1920's-1930's).
@deestrawser24233 жыл бұрын
Hi William, Would that brick possibly be a warming brick for the bed?
@pmichael733 жыл бұрын
The guy at The Second Empire Strikes Back just bought an old stove for his house in St Louis. . . . maybe he needs a doorplate.
@shellydehart82173 жыл бұрын
That piece you put up in the rafters is called a playpen. I believe it was around the 1930 or 1940tys could’ve even been the 1950tys. Not many of those kind left. Glad to see you hung on to it. ♥️😊👍
@katherineg59463 жыл бұрын
1950's
@shellydehart82173 жыл бұрын
@@katherineg5946 I think our right. After making that comment I made I realized it was definitely 1950tys. Thanks bringing that to my attention.
@marilynmourdock36883 жыл бұрын
Robert, it's amazing that your hat is still white!
@TheHollabbeyHomestead3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh..: the mystery and adventure of old buildings!
@cassieb18603 жыл бұрын
Just a thought....The old farmhouse we bought had several barns. In the bottom of a 2story chicken barn we decided to dig out some of the old dirt and debris to put new fresh dirt in. After digging down about a foot we found wires. Those wires were attached to large jars buried about another 2 feet below. The jars were filled with old coins. Those bricks made me think about “X marks the spot”. Do you have access to a metal detector?
@ninja1antelope3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear about your missing belongings. However, it’s Amazing to watch a person dig through trash and find a gem of an artifact!
@fillg3 жыл бұрын
I think that pickaxe may have been used to plant the original sprout of wisteria. It's cursed and should be removed from the property immediately 🙂
@jogillett85183 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha 👍👍🤣 yes it's got to go!!!!
@drunkdunc87383 жыл бұрын
😝👍 Leave it out for the thief, two birds with one stone🍻
@conniewojahn64453 жыл бұрын
@@drunkdunc8738 good idea!
@patward50993 жыл бұрын
My brother was born in 1961 and I have pictures of him in his playpen and it didn't have wheels on it and was lower to the ground. I think the one you found is earlier then the 60's. Nice finds!!
@robinr17143 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing the shed transformation!
@mcwatersd3 жыл бұрын
The bricks you found may have been a platform for a stove or something else they burned the coal in. That crib looks like a late 40's early 50's one. Glad the dust did not make you sick it was so Thick in the air I could smell it from here. LOL Good to hear you started wearing a mask. Keep Safe ❤Keep Well ❤
@DramaMustRemainOnTheStage3 жыл бұрын
Ya gonna find those scoundrel types everywhere. THANK goodness their tomfoolery is getting taken care of. Way to stop the steal Robert ❤❤❤ and THANK you Walter for lending a hand ✋ there
@williamkeith89443 жыл бұрын
That 2×4 board on the inside of the window will bash right in. There's enough heavy stuff, concrete, bricks, old implements etc laying around to hammer that board off and crawl through that window and rummage through the shed.
@nullmcgrooder703 жыл бұрын
You found coal You found a small brick platform You found a cast iron stove door Equals you found the barn stove area.
@bethshadid20873 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I was 🤔
@mikes4553 жыл бұрын
Bingo!
@bluegrallis3 жыл бұрын
What he's cleaning out, was most likely a 'summer kitchen'. Back before air conditioning was heard of and wood and coal was used for cooking and canning, that shed was most likely used to do all the cooking, canning and heating of water for laundry or baths in the summer time, when you didn't want to heat the house up. The brick may have been a base for the stove, or could be remnants of a"sidewall chimney".
@stevez93923 жыл бұрын
a forge with a white brick of flux
@Dav3Campb3ll3 жыл бұрын
Metal Detector in there, pin point that bricked spot! get that Confederate Gold!
@THEOLDBYRDFARMVLOG3 жыл бұрын
That’s it!
@raynonabohrer56243 жыл бұрын
Lol 😆 I wish you luck.
@mercedithcompala81488 ай бұрын
So happy for you, finding those pictures...what a Treasure ❤
@SpringRiverHollar3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Robert , Thanks for filming Walter .
@johnhanes50213 жыл бұрын
Yep! That's George Washingtons axe alright. I have a hammer that was owned by Abraham Lincoln to go with it. The head has been replaced twice and the handle six times, but it's genuine.
@lindaseto23863 жыл бұрын
You are much braver than I am pulling all the dust and dirt and mouse dropping down
@johnb78893 жыл бұрын
Looks like the Byrds had a hoarding problem.
@mowergal97763 жыл бұрын
Thats why your supposed to wear safety glasses and a hard hat..and a face mask probably wouldn't hurt either. Enjoyed watching today vlog!
@joharmon21483 жыл бұрын
Lots of more cool stuff coming out of there. I wish you would finish the floor then move on to another things. Seems like we are always telling you what to do LOL
@katherineg59463 жыл бұрын
I'm loving this part. It's like a treasure hunt, though I'm just a nut about discoveries like this. My favorite stores to wander and shop in are hardware stores. ☺
@lisaaab3 жыл бұрын
Hardware stores are really just adult candy stores.
@katherineg59463 жыл бұрын
@@lisaaab they sure are, even for this 83 year old woman. When one of my son's asked what I wanted for Christmas my answer was duct tape, disposable gloves and some 16 penny nails. Shop for me at any hardware store and I'm a happy camper.
@amywright22433 жыл бұрын
My grandparents' old place had a coal stove. That blue smoke in the winter is a smell I'll never forget. I went back years later and found part of the old coal pile next to the smokehouse. I have a pouch of coal that I hold onto. 😊
@patricialenaburg65533 жыл бұрын
We had wood stoves most of my childhood years, and had family that canned every year. Bricks were placed under the stove for support when canning, whether on a dirt floor, or what ever. My Aunt used to make lye soap, bricks were used the same way.
@zekesgirl1003 жыл бұрын
Your piece of horse tack was one of a pair of hames. They would set on each side of a horse collar and would attach to whatever farm implement was being used.
@aneb.55293 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you are doing this in the cold weather that way I can watch your videos. When the snakes come out I’m going to have to catch back up with you later because my nerves can’t take it. I’m from the deep dirty south and I know all too well how those little suckers like to surprise a person!🐍🐍🐍
@maryleach8593 жыл бұрын
Watching you cleaning out that old shed or out building. The bricks might have a date. Maybe back in the day it had a stove there. I always wish I would have been the one cleaning out my dads old barn. You need to wear a mask. Have tons of fun.
@elewysoffinchingefeld30663 жыл бұрын
I think you need two things for that property: NO TRESPASSING signs and a trail cam to catch whoever is sneaking onto the property to steal stuff. Once they've been warned, you can prosecute (or set them to work cutting down wisteria...)
@penelopemackenzie13013 жыл бұрын
Oh yes! That's a punishment fitting the crime!
@suzanne5293 жыл бұрын
That little shed is heaving a sigh of relief!
@131dyana3 жыл бұрын
That axe can be restored what a neat find glad you are over there. God bless.
@qtrmirob3 жыл бұрын
My parents had that exact crib! I'm fifty three now but remember spinning those numbers all the time! Crib is 60's vintage
@angiedozier913 жыл бұрын
I have an exact same wood cook stove as the one you found in pieces! But mine is a home comfort the doors are off white or beige and has shocks of wheat on the doors! My stove is in excellent condition! It was our mom's she passed @ 91 in 2018!
@nancycurtis4883 жыл бұрын
You could still buy wooden play pens/play yards, usually 40 in. Square in the early 1980s...bought my second one in 1983 for my 5th baby...bought the first one in 1965 for my oldest son. Didn’t learn my lesson after selling the first or second one because had to buy one at an antique store in 2008 for a grandson...not that he was the first but he was here the most. I did keep the second one to use with babies six in 1988 and baby seven in 1990...sold it in 1993...and I also kept the one I bought in 2008. I paid more for it then the other two AND many other baby things put together...so finally did learn a lesson...KEEP your good, well made baby things...just saying. By the way, our house is 112 years old...we found lots of neat things too...way before cell phone cameras...we bought this house in deep east Texas in December 1988...Price family built it and live here fo 77 years. I love it.
@bettylorch37963 жыл бұрын
up north this building would have been called a summer kitchen, It keeps the heat of the house in the summer and reduces risk of fire in the house when doing a lot of food preservation.
@kayesdigginit15193 жыл бұрын
Robert you should've worn knee pads when working on that floor 😲 I'm glad you didn't get cut when clearing there ☺👍 That's a lotta misc stuff put in there over the decades.
@smurph49593 жыл бұрын
Some fancy videography going on there with the dust in the sun beams ... very nice 👌 Unfortunately paddocks are a must, that small % of people have ruined that time when you could leave your door unlocked.
@drunkdunc87383 жыл бұрын
Bricks were probably a central stump for the floor bearers to rest on to avoid a bouncy floor 👍🍻
@timeversman980411 ай бұрын
My grandpas farm had an old shed that was filled with harnesses from back in the horse days...it was way cool.
@sharongayle51503 жыл бұрын
I like those old wood chairs! I had two similar style without seats and I redid the seats by weaving decorative edging ribbon. Painted both red and sold them. Great project!!! Learn to weave the seats watching a KZbin video!! 🤓
@RepublicTX3 жыл бұрын
Love the old play pen you found. My mom used one like that for all of us kids back in the 50's and 60's.
@markduncan6690 Жыл бұрын
Hello Robert! “Down on the “Old Byrd Farm! Once you clean out the rubble, out of your chicken coop, a load of good gravel will return your building to a satisfactory state!
@marypettitt91503 жыл бұрын
I think I would have cleared out all the stuff, then dug out the dirt. I keep hoping you'll find a treasure cache, a hiding place, something under all that stuff.
@butterflylady88753 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the bricks in the floor was where the cast iron wood stove sat to keep it level or from syncing
@Fasciseus3 жыл бұрын
It might have been 4:30 the footings for the Baldwin Sisters' "recipe" machine?
@mema2ode3 жыл бұрын
Bricks would have been there to level out the stove
@Suebee19883 жыл бұрын
And give the stove a non-flammable place to sit.
@connie93 жыл бұрын
Right. If it was a canning shed they would have needed a stove.
@ronileigh93363 жыл бұрын
Cathy, you're probably right...
@kathyphilmurphy55173 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed watching you treasure hunt through this old shed. Most of the comments were interesting, too. Loved the old singletree you found. Stay safe and thanks for bringing me along!
@Nathanscountrycorner3 жыл бұрын
I subscribed. It is really cool what you are doing by fixing up that old farm. Most people would tear down those old farms, I live in Minnesota and most of the old farms are gone where I live. The oldest farm I have been to was built in 1863 and the whole farm had tons of stuff everywhere i dug so I will keep watching through the whole repair of the old place. Have a nice day keep up up the good work. I heard about this channel from adventure archeology
@pattypinsky30853 жыл бұрын
Hey Robert! Save those table legs to make candlesticks from! They’re getting big money for them online!
@marjoriehuff85263 жыл бұрын
Always a NEW ADVENTURE with cleaning out the shed!!!!!!
@raynonabohrer56243 жыл бұрын
Great video. Nothing worse than seeing stuff walk off. And I know how that feels. Amaze us how batteries, carburetors. Mirrors. You name it walked off! I wish you luck! God bless you all.
@jeanburgin1603 жыл бұрын
So interesting to watch your discoveries ... Yes, that is an old crib or play yard ... Nice old vise!!!
@carolyncrider82173 жыл бұрын
So cooooool to see the old saw marks on that overhead wood.
@ivanatomasovic33023 жыл бұрын
Hallo Robert i love the old houses you don a great job thank you big love from croatia
@lindanoreika8933 жыл бұрын
Glad to see your wearing gloves.saw
@chrisfabel8033 жыл бұрын
The tray that had some jars in it that had a divider with two finger holes, I believe is a tray out of a military foot locker. Most foot lockers you find today in flea markets are missing the tray.
@shereerichmond48333 жыл бұрын
Lol..i started to think of all the dust in there and started sneezing.😂 Very cool stuff your finding..
@deniseoftedahl89373 жыл бұрын
Dude...you need a hazmat suit in there!!! How much for the "Cherry Tree" axe? lol
@Sister3253 жыл бұрын
He IS wearing gloves. Baby steps.
@lynns66413 жыл бұрын
Safety glasses would be a very good idea no matter what you’re doing in demolitions, etc. protect those eyes!
@maryohare41412 жыл бұрын
Brick lined little Hiddy-Hole for valuables....my granny had one in part of basement where coal shoot was stuck into window and coal was shoveled down shoot, to fill small shed. Pretty smart place to hide jewelry, money after banks failed and outlaws were ransacking homes or robbing people. People did that during Civil War too.
@Country_Girl633 жыл бұрын
Robert, I want spam one of the old 7Up bottles buried at a 18 77 Homestead in Kansas. We found many bottles there, and three incomplete wagons but they have the tongues on them still. Be sure and wear, and I hate to say it, but a mask for protection cuz you don't want hantavirus. I can't wait to see inside that house Robert!
@angiebrockett76213 жыл бұрын
Glad to spend some time in the old canning shed cleaning.
@bettyadkins69913 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love history, and I've always wanted to visit Georgia, for some reason I'm drawn to that beautiful State and all the older history of those plantations..thanks so much for your videos and a look into the history of your beautiful State!
@Ellenslife8513 жыл бұрын
I wish you lived closer to me I would love to have that old stove that’s such a cool looking old stove
@r1mein543 жыл бұрын
#1 finish clearing the floor, #2 set up a step ladder to access the overhead platform
@themcgeefamily75143 жыл бұрын
That is a total bummer that thieves helped themselves to your items. I hope they were people that are truly desperate 😔 in these uncertain times. Cool that you've got a place to lock stuff up though. You should put up a couple trail cams too so maybe you can catch anyone else that decides to come out to your beautiful property. Great episode. Thanks for sharing.
@gailbullington23643 жыл бұрын
The green wooden box at 8:58 is out of an army foot locker, which goes with the other military surplus you've found. There must have been an army surplus store nearby.
@Fasciseus3 жыл бұрын
Tap the axe head 0:40 with a hammer, if it rings like a bell it's a good head, if it's dull, it's junk, toss it out.
@frankscarborough14283 жыл бұрын
Good idea to fix up a place to store things. Looking forward to seeing more videos. Thanks
@rudyb11783 жыл бұрын
Love the adventure. Keep up the good work Robert
@Sandy-pr5qq3 жыл бұрын
I think that shed might have been a smoke house and the bricks lined the spot where they made the fire.i dont remember having a canning shed in rural Mississippi when i was growing up. The canning was done in the house where the stove was but the jars of food would be stored in the smlke house when it was not in use.
@deniseoftedahl89373 жыл бұрын
You digging up stuff and saving it is like in WALL-e when he saves stuff and takes it home!!!
@genecarr45683 жыл бұрын
Get some wild game cameras to capture (and identiy) the thieves. Raise the entire shed in the air (4-6 feet) and pour a concrete slab to lower it back down on.
@karenwright91233 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed that...I watch you with curiosity to see what you find next...it's a new explore everyday. Take care. Your friend in Ky.
@lj58013 жыл бұрын
That was not George Washington's ax. It was Lizzie Borden's (and you thought she used a hatchet)!
@THEOLDBYRDFARMVLOG3 жыл бұрын
Whoa!
@karendworschack7563 жыл бұрын
😂
@jawja1003 жыл бұрын
YUP! "Lizzie Borden took an AXE . . ."
@raynonabohrer56243 жыл бұрын
🤪🤪🤪 I forgot how many Whack she used?
@mandysmith38613 жыл бұрын
@@raynonabohrer5624 Lizzie Borden took an axe and gave her mother forty whacks when she saw what she’d done she gave her father forty one!
@hinahanta3 жыл бұрын
Great video, love old forgotten stuff. You got what looks like a big bug crawling on your neck and you are worried about the hantavirus!
@brucec64423 жыл бұрын
You're making me sneeze and cough just watching you work !!
@joycerosselot72073 жыл бұрын
Working on that ceiling is like playing Jenga
@Blaze_19613 жыл бұрын
Canning shed - Those bricks were probably one of four that supported an old stove used in the canning process. Coal - bricks - mason jars - part of an old stove.
@jennyrandall43893 жыл бұрын
That looks to be a brick floor under the canning range, maybe coal stove
@kristyhaynes11303 жыл бұрын
I have volunteered at and old farm like yours i loved alot of cool history
@marielg91433 жыл бұрын
Good time to get all that cleared out before the hot weather comes and slows ya down
@henriettadenzig50233 жыл бұрын
Good morning robert and everyone.20s here cold. Hope you all have a safe warm day.
@traceym.86803 жыл бұрын
I Can't wait for 20 degree weather!!
@deborahdanhauer85253 жыл бұрын
I hope you do too sweety!😊🐝
@traceym.86803 жыл бұрын
@@deborahdanhauer8525 It's Horrible here,,,They're saying that you have like 10 minutes until you'll get Frostbite.. I'm ready for Spring..lol
@deborahdanhauer85253 жыл бұрын
@@traceym.8680 My Word! You must be up in the upper Midwest area. I saw those temps on the weather channel and thought it must be a mistake! We're on the edge of a coming ice storm in a day or two...hope it's not too bad😳
@traceym.86803 жыл бұрын
@@deborahdanhauer8525 I live about 100 miles from what they refer to as The Frozen Tundra!! And Darlin they're Spot on Correct because it's Very Bone Chilling Cold..
@karendworschack7563 жыл бұрын
Great video, Robert! Enjoy all your videos! You have a nice calm voice to listen to! Finding lots of treasures in the shed! Wonder what you'll find in the house!
@chrisbynum1913 жыл бұрын
Watch Out For Those Georgia Rattle Snakes.I was mowing grass when I was growing up in Milligeville GA and I ran over a bed of baby rattlesnakes with the lawnmower my dad set it a blaze.
@ricknelson5763 жыл бұрын
Hey Robert, My guess is slab of slate is for shaping axes or kitchen knives. Yes theives are everywhere. Lock it up. Thanks for update.
@elizabethrosier53133 жыл бұрын
Good job, mask & goggles & gloves a must for this one. Take care!
@johnfioravanti75973 жыл бұрын
Watch out for the brown recluse
@lornahardin45633 жыл бұрын
Hope you hung some game cams around, they aren't expensive anymore, ours caught some gal snooping around the front of the house.
@stressrelief1003 жыл бұрын
The bricks is were they built the fire to smoke their meat .there is also a wide board that might be where they salted their pork.
@42apprentice3 жыл бұрын
That stone with the date could have been a sharpening stone for knives & garden implements?