MORE BODY ROTATION At Impact In Your Golf Swing

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

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[@grateful4things673]

4:00 to 5:15 minute mark.... BRILLIANT!!! So nice to see you guys NOT regurgitating the same crap others do. I’ve seen TONS of instructional videos and I’m so glad to see this CRUCIAL part of the swing broken down and explained. We are taskmasters, give us a task and our bodies will do what’s necessary to get in position and complete the task. I don’t believe every inch of the swing needs explaining. This part of the swing is the moment of truth, do us all a favor and please make additional videos covering a topic like this instead of another “how to stop slicing” video that others keep uploading. Thank you!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Thanks, Danny, we appreciate you watching! For better or worse, we don't really fit the "normal" mode😊

[@allowishesgump4482]

great instruction! i'm becoming a mid to low handicapper because of your videos. Thanks guys!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Love it, Michael!👊

[@malcolmparker2243]

Hi Shaun & Mike love the tennis racket analogy just like the club face on the tennis racket opens and closes, i can see from left arm parallel on the way down through impact and as we extend out so does the club, now just get the body rotation working with the arms and it easy days LOL

[@strummer9837]

That’s a fantastic drill to get the correct feel for impact loving the simple golden nuggets guys thank you.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Thanks brother🙏

[@tonywoodhams4588]

Great advice and description about the tennis racket 👍

[@joelange2336]

Thanks guys! Love the drills.

[@lynne244]

This is a really good video for me to work on my swing great visuals

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Thanks for watching, Lynne!

[@adammichelinjr]

Love the tennis reference. That gives me a great "feel" to work on. Thanks!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

yessir!

[@sfmgolf]

Great video again guys! I like the slapping the ground thought!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

🙏👊

[@timmcgrath3995]

Great video. Also feel like your left shoulder stays low through the downswing which will help you rotate your chest. A high left shoulder kills turn.

[@Timmy_Arnold]

As the OG of KZbin instruction, Lynn Blake would put it - "Drag that wet mop". How you guys only have 30k subscribers is beyond me - I'm sharing this gold far and wide.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

The check's in the mail, Tim! Thanks for watching and sharing🙏👊

[@wreckim]

This lesson should have a billion views...but the 570 or so that have clicked so far are getting a private lesson that worth years of range buckets. I'll just add that three weeks ago our Club had a 5-club tournament, and the scores were really odd; odd in that they were actually an improvement from the allotted 14. One would expect a huge hike in scoring. Did not happen. I shot a pretty good round and I noticed throughout the round I had shaft lean on every shot where I had too much club. I hit some gorgeous shots...some went too far as expected...but never even mishit a single shot. My whole problem comes when I swing at Full Speed...that's where the shaft lean disappears and trouble begins. So, I will not hit another shot (irons and hybrids) without shaft lean again for the rest of my life; that's my motto...even if I have to take an extra club for whatever yardage every time. The result with shaft lean is just too good, too straight, and too satisfying. It is a learning thing with the turning of the hips/opening etc...Thanks for the lesson, and thanks for helping us amateurs have fun with our game.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

What a cool story! These "self-discovery" stories you guys take the time to share are my favorite comments... this is what it's all about!

[@MichaelA-eh9te]

Great content as usual. Could you speak to maintaining these mechanics after fatigue sets in? I am struggling with recurrence of EE/right hip thrust and lack of hip rotation through impact towards the end of longer range sessions/towards the end of a round. Thanks for the great instruction!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Having had these conversations with many of our pros... they would tell you how important it is to eat/drink things that would stave off fatigue. It's largely ignored by ams, but absolutely a big part of most pro's game.

[@jboy5744]

The low five is a good thought keeping left hip back is also important for good impact. Keep it simple, we learn more!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Those are two solid and simple thoughts for some really nice ball striking... nice comment John👊

[@braddiboy]

Good video, nice point about the open clubface 😃

[@MD20-20]

It is so easy to get in to weeds with breaking down the golf swing. I’m liking this “everyday guy” series. Now I just have to figure out how to match them all up together. Oh yeah, that’s what lessons are for. At least I can tell the instructor the guys a AMG said it was easy...

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Easy Peasy😊

[@ReedServices]

Good sequel to the "crunch” move video. Also answers my question about avoiding early extension during the pop-up move that immediately follows. You can’t have EE and slap downward.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

No sir, that would be quite a feat to pull off😊

[@ReedServices]

Athletic Motion Golf - With your permission, I’d like to introduce this video and the “low 5” drill to my juniors. They’ll enjoy pairing up to do it.

[@steveperry1344]

some good thoughts on the subject. thnx

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Thanks for watching, Steve!

[@pedrooliveros3085]

Recently I just figured that slapping swing thought, through 45 degrees into the ground. Went through your prior videos and studied your video on wrist angle to confirm my swing thought. Lights bulbs (eureka) just popping in my head. You guys are great. I am ingraining this move. Thanks. Watching your trail foot. Does it pronate, keeping heel on the ground or it starts to rotate on the forefoot with heel getting off the ground on impact?

[@FitFast8]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think we are on the same page with the 45 degrees into the ground feeling-see my comment above!

[@pedrooliveros3085]

@@FitFast8 Yes we are on the same page. Thanks for your response.

[@reflectedpower]

Excellent video on the feeling of the impact position. It helps to know what the destination is before starting the swing. The explanation and the Henrik Stenson reference was helpful since he is such a great ball striker.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

One of the best for sure

[@ericbernardras]

Feel that has been working for me is getting pressure into my lead foot early. Once I have some pressure built up in my lead foot I push into the ground as hard as I can while rotating my hips - this has helped a lot with me getting my body open at impact. Pressure into the lead foot and then push hard into the ground.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

That is THE move... great comment!👊

[@PaulBogdanovic]

Love AMG!!!!! may we please have a Gears video of some pros putting? Thank you! Paul B

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

It's a pretty boring video, Paul. Is there something specific you're looking to see about?

[@PaulBogdanovic]

Hi! I'm prob most interested in the correct way to move the shoulders, thank you!

[@KrisMoe]

Thanks for sharing the great tips guys. Love the idea of the tennis racket or slapping your buddy's hand for a natural way to feel the rotation of the body.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

We're trying to make the "low 5" a thing😊

[@FatscotS]

Mike, Shaun thanks for another great video. QQ though how does getting your hips open differ from firing the hips; i.e are you saying that by the time the shaft i parallel to the ground hips should have stopped powering the swing and it should be torso and arms? A bit like the old k-vest Kinematic sequence?

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Firing for us means a really strong, hard, blast from the hips right from the top... that's just not something we see in good swings. It's a far more "gradual" unwinding. Yes, once the arms and truck start to hit their peak accelerations, the hips will slow. But that's not something that has to be a thought or intent during the downswing. Does that answer what you're asking?

[@jballoregon]

Making sure the hand path works DTL or inside the set up position really sets up the proper shoulder tilts, right hip load, and hand depth. I hit warm up 3/4 shots with this impact, right hand sensation. You know you're doing it correctly when it feels like the club face doesn't release at all but you can pull a ton dynamic loft off the iron and flight it really low.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Nice!

[@bobockenfuss3296]

If timing and synchronization of the swing between the arms and body is so important, does the body pivot begin when the arms and club reach the delivery position?

[@BamaPaul]

Does the trail hand need to be over right thigh at p6 position to have good impact ? Mine is just outside maybe even I still flush ball . I never see this discuss . I see some pros at different positions at that point. Love your videos and feedback 😎

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Paul, if you're flushing it - stay off of youtube😊

[@BamaPaul]

Sorry I’m addictive 😎

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

@@BamaPaul 😊

[@thomasbrewer4993]

Great video! I do have a question about driver impact position and opening of the body. Is it the same "feel" of hitting a low forehand? Should I try to feel the short elbow?

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Not every golfer has a short elbow, definitely not a necessary feel.

[@wonderjesus]

Stunning instruction and charismatic delivery as always gents ❤️🙏🏻

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

thanks again brother!

[@antmanmizuno]

Some great feel ideas for solid impact. Love the outdoor tuition style also.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Thanks brother!

[@davevernon9671]

Your videos are terrific but I’m a golf thought, temporary fix, basket case. Some say golf is a left side game but then I’m told to fire the right side. Skip a stone. Pressure from the ground pushes back as you straighten your left leg. Hands are passive but the left hand is pulling as the right hand pushes. The motorcycle. Swing the handle to the left. Keep spine angle but feel like you are jumping up at impact. More. How is the best way to cut through so much seemingly conflicting information? Thanks

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Honestly, Dave a great first step would be to limit your info sources. Then look for a source that has real measured data to back up thier information. If the problem is too much conlflicting info running through you head, then you really need to purge all that info that doesn't actually happen the golf swing.

[@MiloLinesGolf]

Dave Vernon I agree with Athletic Motion Golf. My channel is Golfletics and it is fun to see the content these guys put out because it is generally very inline with what I teach my Students. If what you are being taught is not an athletic motion common to other sports don’t listen. Sports are sports athletic motion crosses over golf is not very different from other sports.

[@Jackybug]

Henrik Stenson’s down move comes from Jimmy Ballard’s influence. Referencing the right shoulder Jimmy said ‘stay up to hit down’.

[@joshsparham]

Guys fantastic videos recently. I think it would be super helpful to cover some minor and often overlooked things. I'm think letting the wrists overc*ck and too much right arm bend in the backswing. That along with some feels to help those issues. Keep up the great videos.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Thanks Josh🙏👊

[@stuartmulvaney9050]

Another great video guys. One question I have is on club face. In that slap move it looks like club face is pointing directly away from the golfer when the club is parallel to the ground on the downswing, then it is square to target at impact. Is that where the club face should be turning? Or can it turn earlier? Or is there no perfect answer. I did watch the drive it like a pro squaring the face video which showed degree turn per second (over 1000 degrees) but I think degrees of turn from say 90 to 0 would be more useful to understand the club face closing on the downswing or a percentage of how much the club face has turned throughout the downswing, i.e. 80% of the club face squaring happens in the last quarter of the downswing (or whatever is ideal).

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Such a great question👊 A good rule is the longer the club, the earlier it should start squaring... or the faster you swing, the earlier the better. That's a great idea for a video to show the percentages rather than raw degrees. That will require some math on our part, so it might take us a minute to do😊

[@stuartmulvaney9050]

@@AthleticMotionGolf thanks for the response. Appreciate the maths involved and I assume gears doesn't do percentages to make it easy! Club face degrees to target may make most sense but appreciate target line will not always be where a golfer wants their club face to finish as club face and club path are much more key.

[@JohnK222inf]

What if you completely shut the face pre impact as a drill? Would that encourage being open so you don’t hit it dead left?

[@robinwoolf3440]

Do you recommend this movement for senior golfers?

[@dennis1119]

I really like this video especially combined with a drill on the AMG pay site this week where Mike shows you how to use a furniture slide pad to get the feel for what the trail leg should be doing to stabilize impact. Great lesson and the two sites really compliment each other! Check it out!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Stability is a great feeling coming into the ball👊

[@emiliojesena1800]

Good analogy on how to rotate at impact. No wonder Swedish players like Stenson and Sorenstam are great golfers. Also the Korda sisters whose Dad was a pro tennis player. I used to play tennis in my teens, and I was not good (awful serve). Yet my brother is very good to great in both. Damn those genetics.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Wow, we totally should have mentioned the Korda sisters... great comment! Yep, genetics is undefeated😄

[@555Trout]

Good stuff as usual. I might add the importance of that right side tilt is so critical. You guys have done come great work showingg the "turn" is actually back extension+left side tilt then back through ball is foward pelvic tilt+ right side tilt. Then we gotta be going into back extension with right side tilt otherwise open just can't happen. And I happen to think that is very difficult for golfers to get their head around. Almost all are "staying down" in forward tilt and there's just no way to deliver correctly from there. 30 years teaching golf and what I just tried to explain I still find the most difficult concept to get across. I'm not sure the word "turn" is ideal for the motion at all. The pivot certainly rottatee the pelvis but what's going on above in the shoulders is not really a "turn". Back extension +left tilt then back into forward tilt and right to tilt and pte impact gotta be going back into back extension and while increasing right tilt. And that is just so difficult to teach cause it's so counterintuitive! But, as you two know, once you can do it the whole thing seem quite easy and obvious. I've looked at everyone's teaching and I've yet to see a great way to convey what what we're talking about here. But I bring it up because the delivery concepts you describe here just can't happen without it. I wonder if you two find it challenging to convey also?

[@itzjwc]

Do you have a video or further teaching on the above? I think it's exactly what my swing is missing.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Great comments. I think that's why we like these visual mediums so well compared to audio or written because we can show as we describe. No question there a bias or different connotation to just about every common word used in the golf swing, lol. It's kinda why we interchange words so often for the same move. Words are important, but I think getting the right concept over is more important than what it's called.

[@555Trout]

@@AthleticMotionGolf Words and connotations sure complicate things. Coupled with myths and "common sense"! I sure enjoy and appreciate your guy's videos. Thanks so much for all the hard work.

[@vantumpete]

Your other video on clearing confusion about side bend rotation was the worst, too many numbers too quickly: what is implication for my swing ?

[@jasontroutman9845]

I’ve been working on getting more body rotation and I found my miss now is a block right caused by open club face. I have a strong grip also. Will the low five close the club face? It seems like it should have that effect on the face.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

There's one sure way to find out😊 . Let us know how it goes.

[@wigertood1]

I've been trying to work on keeping my right shoulder back in my downswing to create a more in to out swing. If I try this it feels like my right shoulder moves out causing me to come over the top. It feels more natural but I hit weak fades.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Our next wrist video coming out soon that will definitely be a big help for that👍

[@wigertood1]

Thanks for these videos. Look forward to the next one

[@caseyb5318]

A question or comment about the lead shoulder in this equation. It all makes sense getting the trail shoulder more open at impact but opening the lead shoulder as well causes lots of toe contact resulting in hooks. In order to prevent this I almost have to keep the lead shoulder slightly closed or protracted. Your thoughts?

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

The lead shoulder def won't be as open as the chest, but it sounds like you might be missing some side tilt coming into impact.

[@RogerToye]

Like the low five, and floppy arm drill. give us five !!

[@georgetinwick3450]

Iam really struggling with compressing the ball and getting through the ball i notice yiu guys don't advise using the ground to push the hips around especially pushing the right leg and hip for power many other PGA PROFESSIONALS say to push the right hip knee and leg late in the down swing iam totally confused about this part of the swing pls help me to understand ths part better so frustrated right now Tks for your amazing instructions

[@chrisgarner3714]

Would getting more body rotation at impact affect my grip? If I am able to get more rotated open, will my grip be more weak or neutral? I used to have a very strong grip but I began turning and opening better and everything was going left. I weakened my grip a little and was able to turn hooks to fades...but I'm not sure this was the right thing to do.

[@guntars66]

When it’s so easy, why golf shots is so inconsistently ? And how much degrees have to open hips for direct striking?

[@MG-ro7nl]

Best comment of the week ⛳️🏌️‍♂️

[@FitFast8]

For me, having a neutral grip and then managing the bend in the back of the left wrist throughout the swing is key. Its so easy to flatten or over-bend the wrist causing the club face to be too open or closed, and not just at impact. Having the club face out of position, especially in the back swing, I believe, is one of the main causes of compensations in the swing. If you can feel something is not right or you seem to end up with the club face out of position in your grip at the end of the swing, then look at the motion of the left wrist. Learning to control the bend in the wrist as you rotate it, swing back and change direction is a relatively complex skill that is often over looked by even high level players, as well as by most coaches.

[@andrewkim1970]

I have a question for Athletic motion golf you guys. Some PGA Players are at the top of backswing their left wrists bowed mean their clubface closed so during their downswing clubface closed most of the time for example( Dustin Johnson , Brooks Koepka so on ) . Is good for more distances? some people think The closed face is fewer hands rotation at impact so better Would you recommend the clubface closed at the top of backswing? Thank you!

[@wreckim]

Andrew, I'm not expert, but I've viewed so many lessons and taken a few with a local pro on this. The bowed wrist is certainly a great thing for those Pros, but it could also invite injury. Be careful. A flat wrist is certainly great IMO. 2c.

[@Ryan-fx7jx]

Don't bow your wrist like that intentionally unless a good coach tells you to. DJ has wicked high hands and Brooks is a beast of a human. It's not as natural and most pros actually have a slight cup shown by another vid by these guys.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

You got some great advice already about the cautions of a strongly bowed wrist. As far as, what's "best"... you have to consider all the things that happen from that top of the swing position to impact. Nothing up at the top is guaranteed to be there down by the ball. A flatish wrist is a great place to start from for so many golfers and where we typically recommend.

[@andrewkim1970]

Athletic Motion Golf thank you so much !

[@seanm3226]

But I do feel as though I’m “slapping” with my hand (via my arms), and not by spinning my hips open. Great video.

[@brentkamenz8487]

What are your thoughts about swinging one handed to get those weight transfer/opening feels? (Swinging with your lead arm)

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Love it!👊

[@robsaxepga]

I just feel like I don't stall the rotation before impact. Keep it moving 👍🏻

[@dilligaf24824]

good stuff

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Laz-Andres Mesa 🙏🏻👊

[@johnt697]

How do you know if you are over doing opening your body?

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

When it dominates everything else happening in the swing

[@TulgaBatbayar]

Great content. Thank u

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Thanks for watching, Tulga🙏

[@boppieh8448]

But what about the “ palm up “ feel with the right hand in the downswing?

[@gamertg9747]

The high 5 thing seemed really stupid but it’s completely different feel for me and it actually makes me way less restricted and tight and I have much more flow.... crazy

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Love it!

[@209coach]

In an actual golf swing, do pros feel as they are hitting the ball with their right hand? Compressing it with the right hand? -Tony

[@ffkirch]

U playing PX LZ's? Thoughts?

[@Wesquire]

Can you explain why being more open is better?

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

It all depends on where you're starting from. If you are closed at impact being more open will help stabilize the face, bring the hands more forward for better loft control, and produce a more consistent impact point just to name a few. If you're already open, adding to that may or may not do much for you.

[@burlingwoodau7277]

best explanation but the Biggest issue is How to keep club face square!!!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

No one keeps it square😉

[@markhimpoo4972]

Hi guys, what does your left arm feel when your doing this ?? Does it and the left side still initiate the downswing..??

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Would say most describe it as getting the arms in front of them early.

[@deeder3]

Better put this video in the favorites for future re-views

[@FitFast8]

I have to disagree with the feel of slapping at the ball as a useful one-it will encourage a push through impact rather than a rotation (and for the right arm to extend way too late). Not only that but it will cause release issues for all but the shortest irons. I like to think of the down swing as a combination of extension of the right arm whilst dropping the arms and then once the hands are in the correct position an almost passive rotation of the body. For me a better feel is a chopping motion with the right arm towards the ground (ie extending the right arm at the elbow) at a position about 45 degrees to the right of my right leg towards the ground (and further back the longer the club is), exactly the same as I would when making a side arm throw. I don't rotate hard through impact; the rotation is almost passive but it's rapid because the pelvis is rotating correctly over the femurs. People who are better at side arm throwing or skimming stones-they don't throw at the target as such, their release happens towards the target (i.e they've added power and set positions up earlier in the motion).

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

We'll agree to disagree on this one😉

[@lynne244]

Wow

[@jonblaz1]

The right hand must be correctly placed in the grip for the “slap”. eg a right hand under in the grip would be disaster

[@lousifers]

4:50

[@BruceBusby]

Bitch slam the planet! Love it!

[@tommyalberson4494]

You have to abruptly stop your body at impact

[@charlessmith4590]

Yeah but put the other hand on.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Sure thing

[@Chris-mi1tt]

You guys definitely know what you are doing, but you guys really don't know how to speak like a high handicapper. I think it's a language barrier. No one I play with, consciously thinks he "stays back and scoops the ball." Actually, we all do, but that's not the words we would use to describe it. Instead, we would say that we keep our shoulders parallel at impact, and swing our arms thru the ball. The language makes a difference, because I initially ignored what you were saying in the video, because "I don't stay back and scoop the ball," no one does that. But, if you would have said something "VERY, VERY EMPHATIC," like, shoulder rotation must be continuous all the way to impact. Then add that most weekend warriors stop shoulder rotation at parallel and then fire the hands. And, that lack of shoulder rotation causes the golfer to stay back and scoop the ball. Then I would have thought wow, that's exactly what I do. It would have saved me a lot of time. Anyway, I noticed that you were "continuously" moving your right shoulder toward the target, but mostly ignored it (language thing). I definitely wasn't doing that before impact, and my fellow weekend buddies weren't doing that either. It was happening after impact, due to momentum. Instead, I was mostly stopping my right shoulder rotation at about the parallel position keeping my shoulders parallel to the target, and my head behind the ball, using mostly arms. My right shoulder would come thru after impact, do to momentum, giving the appearance that I did everything correctly. I didn't realize it until I tried a couple things in this video, and couldn't get it right. But, I kept experimenting until I stumbled onto the right sequence. It wasn't until I tried something that I knew wouldn't work: I slowed down my swing, and made my main focus to continuously rotate my right shoulder regardless of how bad I was going to shank the ball, and loose distance. Because, the only way I could hit the ball with the right shoulder rotating was to add lag and stop swinging my hands so fast. Well, I didn't shank it, and I didn't loose distance. I hit the best ball ever. Rotating the right shoulder continuously fixed a ton of things. All I have to do now is concentrate on my right shoulder rotation with tilt, and my right hand (to get the club face angle right, the slapping analogy fixes that). Everything else falls into place. With the Right shoulder rotating into the ball, you can't hit the ball unless the rest of the body moves into the right position: open hips, weight shifted to the left foot, lag, etc. For instance, It's impossible to "not have lag" if the right shoulder is "continuously" rotating. If I stop rotating my shoulders and fire my hands, I will loose lag every time. I just didn't realize that stopping my shoulder was causing so many other issues. High handicappers spend a lot of time working on speeding up our hands. Fast hands won't work if we don't stop the shoulders at parallel and let the hands fire thru. High handicappers would never even consider rotating their shoulders "continuously" to impact on the down swing, because every high handicapper thinks that would cause a shank or a slice. Especially, if they are shallowing the golf club incorrectly with an open face. The shoulder rotation "ALL THE WAY TO IMPACT," and the "slapping" analogy fixes both. Initially, due to the language barrier, I was "ADDING" the tips in this video to my swing, instead of substituting them. I was rotating my shoulder, but only until they were parallel. Then I was swinging my arms as fast as I could. Like I said, I've watched a ton of your videos, and none of the tips were working consistently. Because, everything was undone by stopping my shoulders at parallel, and letting my arms swing thru. Most weekenders, temporarily, stop rotating the shoulders at parallel to target so they can fire the hands. And, the more it doesn't work, the faster we move our hands, and the less we move our shoulders. It's a death spiral, that I have been doing for 40 years, until yesterday. We don't really listen to the shoulder rotation to and thru impact tip, because it doesn't leave us time to fire the hands. Basically, If I remove the "shoulder stopping at parallel to allow the hands to swing through" move (the move that I have been using for 40 years), I would have to come up with another move in its place. That's when a I tried the one in this video. Obviously, It worked. Thanks!

[@windyknot2094]

The big guy is a waste of space.