More BULLSH*T Martial Arts - JKD "Instructor" Talks Out of His A**

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Izzo Wing Chun

Izzo Wing Chun

Күн бұрын

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@vagabondgrappler8434
@vagabondgrappler8434 2 жыл бұрын
"When JKD students describe Wing Chun, they sound like virgins teaching sex ed." - Norman DePlume
@reallifeengineer7214
@reallifeengineer7214 2 жыл бұрын
Made me spew my coffee! 🤣🤣
@mattpatterson9128
@mattpatterson9128 2 жыл бұрын
😆
@JKDVIPER
@JKDVIPER 2 жыл бұрын
It’s so stupid. Guys that know how to fight think stuff like this is ridiculous. Any art can work. We’re trying to injure somebody. I could use ffff hockey checks if it works??? See my point? I’m a wrestler. But because I do jkd?? I get guys saying “Your gonna get tuned up in a fight?” Again NO CLUE. 😉💥it’s so annoying
@JKDVIPER
@JKDVIPER Жыл бұрын
I’m jkd like I said. But I do almost all GARY LAM WING CHUN. Wing Chun has so much to offer. We do collection.
@JimmyPunkWrestling
@JimmyPunkWrestling Жыл бұрын
@@JKDVIPER so you're a virgin teaching sex ed? 😆😂🤣
@KurtisJoseph
@KurtisJoseph 2 жыл бұрын
That kid wasn't even trying to blast. There was no forward pressure at all. That was intentionally trying to make the concept look useless it seems.
@KurtisJoseph
@KurtisJoseph 2 жыл бұрын
I did claim JKD lineage, and I was an instructor. However, I agree with most of what you say. I believe in obtaining experience. I just study martial arts. I train in whatever I can to get experience. If something feels applicable then I work it. These days I am simply a martial artist.
@MasterTrainerFred
@MasterTrainerFred Жыл бұрын
I train JKD, FMA, Silat, STK Kickboxing, Muay Thai and MMA. I am a Kickboxing, Muay Thai and MMA Coach. I call myself a kickboxer most of the time. I’m 43 and after 30 years of serious training, I just began calling myself a Martial Artist. I do love Jun Fan for my solo training but I almost never discuss JKD or Bruce Lee.
@ruiseartalcorn
@ruiseartalcorn 2 жыл бұрын
I love your brutal honesty! ;) Many thanks for a great video :)
@amawingchunkungfu7274
@amawingchunkungfu7274 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a rarity to find a JKD practitioner that knows how to train and apply Wing Chun. They barely scratch the surface and are just good at creating drills. Respect to them but if you want to learn how to train in Wing Chun you need to find a good teacher - which is also a rarity.
@jeetkunedoatlanta2464
@jeetkunedoatlanta2464 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps because they aren't doing Wing Chun...
@michaelamarcellus4973
@michaelamarcellus4973 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem I think when it comes to condo and the people who play at it and who teach what they think they know is that they don't really have longevity of time and experience on the fundamentals and basics which is what was taught before they were born. Bruce Lee died in 1973 I was training in 1972 under Sifu Larry Hartsell. The majority of the people out there haven't put the time in and have continued to add to their subjective interpretation of what Jeet Kune Do Is. Certificates, selling of merchandise videos or shirts and pontificating about fighting isn't the same as actually training for an extended period of time. I'm not talking about copying and imitating what you see in the movies or what you see on videos. And yet, individuals continue to pontificate about what's right and who is right and who is wrong spreading more division within the JKD community. More time could be spent cultivating themselves as individual and "training" with as many of the Jeet Kune Do older teachers that are still alive. It is indeed a sad State of Affairs that doesn't seem to be getting any better or clearing some of those muddied waters. Everyone seems to have their own agenda and narrative as they push their subjective interpretation of Bruce Lee's Art. Sad but true... Sensei Sifu Guro - Michael Marcellus Brown
@thevillageyid
@thevillageyid 2 жыл бұрын
Chain attacks are also meant to cause sensory overload to you opponent, especially when hitting different targets on the body like Izzo said.
@WingZeroSymphonics
@WingZeroSymphonics 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, its a bit frustrating to see a martial artist disavow techniques in bad faith. I need techniques for close quarters. This channel offers realistic approaches to such circumstances. Whether it be trapping, application of body mass or limb sensitivity and more of what I am not aware of, this channel provides what research shows in 2022. ☯️.
@cagedraptor
@cagedraptor 2 жыл бұрын
my simple philosophy is simple, Everything I do is best for me, and everything you do is best for you. Don't expect what you do is best for me, and I won't expect what is best for me would be best for you.
@pizzulo8111
@pizzulo8111 2 жыл бұрын
What's funny about this instructor is he must not have even scratched the surface of the Tao of JKD because Bruce Lee is adamant that the straight lead is the backbone of JKD. It's direct and intended to knock the opponent back and allow you to follow up with forward pressure and not allow the opponent to recover root.
@IzzoWingChun
@IzzoWingChun 2 жыл бұрын
He covered this in another video! Which is why this is either purposely done to mislead students or he doesn’t even know what he’s talking about.
@colreef
@colreef Жыл бұрын
@@IzzoWingChun or both!
@normanwalford9426
@normanwalford9426 2 жыл бұрын
I like your idea of the evolution of the martial arts. I can't wait to see what level we will take it. Thanks
@dayvidsappor3447
@dayvidsappor3447 2 жыл бұрын
I think the best minds of Wc and JKD need to meet and just face-off to test skills and concepts in reality to see if they really work. All this back and forth brings no resolution. Just meet up and test.
@elpatron6537
@elpatron6537 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@andrewt8721
@andrewt8721 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video Sifu Izzo, I am learning so much from you, you're the only one on youtube that brings reality about Wing Chun to us.
@dgillian183
@dgillian183 Жыл бұрын
Izzo is awesome! But checkout Adam Chan too!
@andrewt8721
@andrewt8721 Жыл бұрын
@@dgillian183 Yes, I wholeheartedly agree to that, I subscribe to both.
@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812
@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812 11 ай бұрын
There are a few., like the other guy mentioned Adam chan, but Izzo is very good tho and he makes interesting videos.
@samirsaidi2223
@samirsaidi2223 Жыл бұрын
I think the problem with the JKD guy is that he doesn’t understand that the chain punch is a concept, not a technique. If I do wing chun, it doesn’t mean that if I get in a fight, I will get into a traditional stance and do very quick flurry of punches like in the Ip Man movies. Proper structure and intent leads to proper power generation. One good, structural, proper Ving Tsun punch will always be better than any fancy flurry. The chain punch, like anything in WC, is a concept, not a “if he does this, I will do this” technique
@SiHingLucky
@SiHingLucky 11 ай бұрын
As a JKD guy rain sleet or snow ..... I must agree with Mr Izzo's assessment of this so-called JKD practioner ...... This particular JKD practitioner don't even look like he ever sparred or fought a day in his life .
@tonyvalente
@tonyvalente 2 жыл бұрын
When you go to college they give you a book and it’s up to you to interpret the Content in the book. some people become scholars and some people work at the dollar store .
@s1r155
@s1r155 2 жыл бұрын
JKD suffers from the same problem as wing chun. Too much emphasis on fighting theory and not enough fighting practices.
@sophiawoods6748
@sophiawoods6748 2 жыл бұрын
Well said. Good job mma exists since the octagon is the lab to test the theories into practical app. And people come from all walks to test. And they all have something to offer. No method has all the truth.
@TheTrendkillerx
@TheTrendkillerx 2 жыл бұрын
@@sophiawoods6748 MMA has rules so it's nothing like a street fight.
@kermit1211
@kermit1211 11 ай бұрын
@@TheTrendkillerxit's still one of the most efficient ways to sharpen your fighting skills. You won't learn anything if you just get into a bunch of street fights
@bronzetiger6360
@bronzetiger6360 5 ай бұрын
​@@kermit1211" Nothing"....Except how to survive in a True altercation. " Nothing" except how to perhaps protect your loved ones in a chaotic situation, where your firearm may not be available. In real life people " grab fences", in real life eye gouges and bites are popular and for some, " instinctive". In real life you don't stand across from a man you have had 2 MONTHS to study.....Pretty big differences.
@kermit1211
@kermit1211 5 ай бұрын
@@bronzetiger6360 that’s if you survive the street fight in the first place. Plus even if you did, you’ll accumulate more damage than lessons about fighting that can easily be taught in a less harmful environment
@HMAWorldwide1
@HMAWorldwide1 2 жыл бұрын
I knew it was going to come to this and is why I stopped making videos a long time ago. Of course, I agree with what you're saying and yes, this guy could learn few things, but every time I bring up the idea behind the martial arts & self-defense industry having a National Governing Body as a means of qualifying people to teach, nobody wants it, so then we are left to people calling out other people because they don't like them agree with them, etc. The issue is in my opinion is teaching ability to skill level ratio, which is very difficult to get right. Here is a question, who are the top JKD teachers in the world and why can't their ability to teach JKD be duplicated 100% into their students? We all know the answer, and Bruce Lee himself said it in an interview..."because people are different, man". Does than mean poor teaching should be allowed? No, absolutely not. However, is it right to make videos calling people out for being a poor teacher. I don't know, i just don't know.
@jamesmarr8736
@jamesmarr8736 Жыл бұрын
Well said
@2gpowell
@2gpowell 2 жыл бұрын
What about the James Yim lee lineage. He is not mentioned much but keep in mind he was bestfriends with Bruce and he and Linda Lived with him for a few yrs. They trained and experimented in his garage. In Fact, What James Yim Lee taught was what he and Bruce experimented with. Way Different than Guru Dan teachings of jkd concepts.
@brucehuddler7518
@brucehuddler7518 2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t BL study/train WC 10 years, and not as said “a couple years before he left”?
@JKDVIPER
@JKDVIPER 2 жыл бұрын
10:13 He does all his work with this short kid here. He’s scared that death of him. It’s his idol. He looks up to him as the JKD JEDI. 😂it’s a joke. I learned more JKD in basic wrestling practice then from anything Thomas can show me. Don’t panic dom. This is really weird. He’s way off. Trust me. I monitor my art. Look up OCTAVIO QUINTERO or JKD KOREA. We know the difference.
@reinerwongler7263
@reinerwongler7263 2 жыл бұрын
The "short kid" is 6,0 / 185 cm. The instructor is 6,4 / 197 cm. Who are you calling short lol
@JKDVIPER
@JKDVIPER 2 жыл бұрын
@@reinerwongler7263 woe,hey, easy there.. I was just looking for words. I don’t think he looks small or anything. Just to Thomas.
@JKDVIPER
@JKDVIPER 2 жыл бұрын
@@reinerwongler7263 I didn’t mean any harm. 😉💥
@waderogers776
@waderogers776 2 жыл бұрын
Dom, would love for you to do a Chum Kiu series of videos...it would be great to see your breakdown, as there is so much to take from that form.
@Zooko23NY
@Zooko23NY 2 жыл бұрын
What is the concept that Sifu Izzo is mentioning here?? Huma? Uma? Does he have or is there any video/research on it? I'd like to look into it. ush, thank you
@IzzoWingChun
@IzzoWingChun 2 жыл бұрын
Yiu Ma
@KurtisJoseph
@KurtisJoseph 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I base everything off the blast. If something gets in the way... the trapping comes into play. I do not try to pak sao or lop sao a jab. He has never been blasted. You can't hook against a good chain punch sequence. You have no choice but to trip backward over your feet if ya try.
@Opacus_Rex
@Opacus_Rex 6 ай бұрын
For the past two weeks I've been watching your videos and I know I'm a whole year behind on catching up.. I think the real problem in JKD isn't Bruce Lee but perhaps his students that split off early.. I spent most my life in JKD my school incorporated instructors from JKD, Kajukenbo, Escrima and BJJ... And the majority of the things you point out about what JKD does wrong we never did and allot of your descriptions is how we covered it idk maybe I had better instructors but we even went to inosanto academy of martial arts in del rey a few times and training was allot of the same we did we also never hyper focused on concepts but more on application hell most of what we did was full contact sparing. So I really think it's not what Bruce taught but what his students took in and what they shared was the level they were at not what the longest running students were at and were able to pass down or even the complete knowledge Bruce had to offer.
@truthhurts1884
@truthhurts1884 11 ай бұрын
I’ve commented on some of Thomas Marx’ videos, my problem with the JKD is they all move the same and look the same. The art was supposed to be about finding the best way for your body to move etc, but they all try to fight and look like Bruce Lee when his style doesn’t work for everyone.
@ricksterdrummer2170
@ricksterdrummer2170 5 ай бұрын
Fun fact = The pads they use (designed by Tommy Carruthers) are small and made of hard rubber instead of foam. They’re amazing in my opinion! However, they’re also designed to make a loud “smack”, when you hit them. They basically give the illusion you’re hitting hard when you might not.
@DannyRedCheeks
@DannyRedCheeks 9 ай бұрын
I love watching these type of videos where one “master” is trying to argue why their art is the superior art You don’t see wing chun or other kung fu styles and practitioners dominating in MMA The tall guy with the accent looks like he’s never been in a fight in his life
@fuckheinschitt239
@fuckheinschitt239 8 ай бұрын
and so do you
@BigStickCombat
@BigStickCombat 2 жыл бұрын
Eye-opening video. I think anyone who wants to "absorb what is useful" owes it to you to ask you to explain your system and your critique.
@JKDVIPER
@JKDVIPER 2 жыл бұрын
2:24 WING CHUN is a core concept art in JKD. Jun Fan GUNG FU is the essence. JUN FAN JEET KUNE DO is the progression. We have many very good practitioners, but we do have the know it all types.
@JimmyPunkWrestling
@JimmyPunkWrestling 2 жыл бұрын
The name Jun Fan (Lee Jun Fan was Bruce Lee's Chinese name) is what people these days call Jeet Kune Do, or Bruce Lee's version of Jeet Kune Do, which is a concept and not an art itself. The concept was to take whatever personally works for you from one OR multiple martial arts systems and discard whatever doesn't work for you and create your own style, in his case Jun Fan.
@JKDVIPER
@JKDVIPER 2 жыл бұрын
@@JimmyPunkWrestling that’s pretty close. But no. We have a curriculum. It is a recognized art by the shaolin temple. The black belts have spoken. It is an art. However. People get lost in details with jkd to much. Everybody spouts off something they heard? I know. I’m in contact with the higher structure. I know. ☮️🥊💯💥
@JimmyPunkWrestling
@JimmyPunkWrestling Жыл бұрын
@@JKDVIPER Shaolin Temple recognized it, the black belts? If you knew anything about Chinese Martial Arts you'd know it doesn't use belt system. Your knowledge is limited.
@igotbluesdevils
@igotbluesdevils Жыл бұрын
Yeah, muh lineage! No.
@igotbluesdevils
@igotbluesdevils Жыл бұрын
@@JimmyPunkWrestling Did you check out the guy's channel? I mean.. eh? :D
@AngelosGuillory-ey2ec
@AngelosGuillory-ey2ec 2 ай бұрын
Izzo,been watching you for a while now. I appreciate your no nonsense no bullshit narratives and great but accurate info. I am 5 weeks away from the beginning my third phase n biu jee. Please keep up your hard work.
@hotpopcorncake
@hotpopcorncake 2 жыл бұрын
19:11 What do you mean in this part by recover? what do you follow up with punches?
@davidrisselada6199
@davidrisselada6199 2 жыл бұрын
You know, I have a JKD instructor certification from a guy who came down the Ted Wong line and is also an instructor under Lamar Davis. I also have extensive experience in the Inosanto "JKD concepts" system having trained with several people from that lineage. The politics of JKD piss me off. Especially in the Inosanto line. Everyone thinks they are so special. I understand JKD as a set of concepts. Strong hand forward, longest weapon closest target, five ways of attack, etc. I also understand the concept of rejecting what is useless and adopting what is useful. Ironically, 90% of what I learned in JKD I have rejected as useless. One of the biggest reasons is that is far easier to teach grappling for self defense, or learn it in real time than it is JKD or wing chun even. Wing Chun is a style which several MMA fighters have shown is ineffective. Also, you keep insisting that JKD people are wrong because they don't know wing chun. Who cares? JKD isn't wing chun nor, in its later development was at based on wing chun. Bruce Lee rejected traditional martial arts. Most of JKD is fencing and boxing. Bruce Lee's straight lead has more to do with fencing than wing chun. Like I said though, I really don't do JKD anymore. One thing I do agree with you on is the purpose of the straight blast. I still use that. To be fair, I never trained wing chun outside of a JKD context. I played with chi sao a little bit but think that pummeling or playing in the muay thai plum is a far better method of developing close fighting skills.
@IzzoWingChun
@IzzoWingChun 2 жыл бұрын
And there it is. If you never trained Wing Chun outside of JKD and most MMA people havent either, I guess calling it ineffective is irresponsible.
@davidrisselada6199
@davidrisselada6199 2 жыл бұрын
@@IzzoWingChun perhaps. It comes down to methodologies I suppose. Occupying center line and keeping forward pressure is effective. Using chi sao to develop it? Probably not as effective as other methods which do the same. The only art I can think of that doesn't dominate the center line is Kali. You said you were a wrestler. I will say that having that experience and adding it to wing chun.probably creates a whole new beast. I gave up alot of JKD stuff when i went into a school of hard core grapplers and I had no answer. It didn't matter that I could out strike them. They could close the distance and get me down. I think the bigger point about Bruce's ideas that people miss is that it isn't the art, it is the fighter. If you have a dedicated wing chun guy, who is athletic, dedicated and understands his game, he could beat the jujitsu guy who only trains twice a week. If you have a guy from each, who are both dedicated and athletic, the wing chun guy ought to either learn how to fight from distance or expect to be taken down. Doesn't mean he will lose though. It just depends on how well he can execute his art. That is what I ultimately believe.
@florisvanlingen
@florisvanlingen 2 жыл бұрын
17:57 - I was expecting a proper hook, this was far from it. When you hook you rotate but also shift your weight to the back leg. This guy just arm punched and stepped back.
@GabrielJamesMusic
@GabrielJamesMusic Жыл бұрын
How funny…my JKD teacher taught me chain punching but a lot of internet JKD is bunk! Lol 😂 great video
@thestruggler340
@thestruggler340 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you’ve covered this I saw it recently and watching it is painful the way he talked about wing chun
@TimRHillard
@TimRHillard 7 күн бұрын
I think JKD might be a product of how it was developed. Bruce did allot of sparring, and I think JKD might be a really good way to spar in your back yard with friends. In real world violence, that completely bladed stance, especially at the extension of their lead punch is not going to work against a brutal, melee, crazy attack. It’s not going to work in MMA, UFC because a grappler is going to grab that leg and put you on your ass. It’s not going to work in boxing because using one side primarily is gonna get smothered by a boxer using both hands in combinations. But, in the back yard friendly sparring, no grappling and no real violence, it probably works well.
@coreydarden8481
@coreydarden8481 Жыл бұрын
I Train & Studied Jeet kune do with SELF HELP since 2012 I REALLY Respect Thomas Marx But He Really Have been Disrespecting Me & Being a Jerk He Said To me in comments Section - " Listen Master Don't tell people how good you are , Your a beginner " *He doesn't KNOW ME!* *He doesn't KNOW what I lookalike!* *He hasn't seen my punching & Kicking!* *He Really doesn't KNOW!*
@blueboy837
@blueboy837 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dominic shout out from Melbourne Australia, I completely agree with you , this guy has no idea about w c straight punch
@leyvonnewashlv4096
@leyvonnewashlv4096 2 жыл бұрын
Some of These JKD dudes are hilarious 😆 I love picking their minds apart. They can beat anyone in the world yet they never fight
@sophiawoods6748
@sophiawoods6748 2 жыл бұрын
😂 that is true
@TomMack6466
@TomMack6466 2 жыл бұрын
The vast majority of JKD people use elements of Wing Chun. The extent and how they implement these skills will vary. The majority of JKD practitioners will use the straight punch from Wing Chun at close range in conjunction with trapping. I will say that JKD trapping, (or Jun Fan Wing Chun) is not Wing Chun but because of the other elements in JKD training is modified to work with these other skills such kickboxing. I'm quite sure if you looked at what I do though the lens of Wing Chun there would be many things you would criticize but I've been married for almost twenty years, so I have received some criticism in my life
@Jkdnyc
@Jkdnyc 2 жыл бұрын
Listen lets be clear .. watching this vid was comical.. lol this guy does not represent jkd.. like we wouldnt point out one wing chun guy that cant fight then use that to generalize. Clearly this jkd guy is well.. blah. A Good fighter , well trained, makes wing chun work and same for jkd. Lets evolve beyond style. 👊
@jamesmarr8736
@jamesmarr8736 Жыл бұрын
Well said
@Dan53196
@Dan53196 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah we have so much stuff people don’t know. We have hook punches, upper cuts, elbows, knees, footwork. I’m curious what you think of the Jerry Poteet stuff especially Octavio Quintero. He uses some cool stuff from wing chun. P.S. these guys aren’t very fast or powerful 🧐
@guererodelluz
@guererodelluz 2 жыл бұрын
Thousands of jkd videos online but the only guy i find credible and realistic and principle based is Octavio Quintero .
@EvanTateMusic
@EvanTateMusic 9 ай бұрын
I've seen this guys stuff in Instagram and it's horrible! Yes, he lies! He has no idea what Wing Chun is. I'm NOT a fan of JKD.
@MartialArtsViking
@MartialArtsViking 2 жыл бұрын
hei izzo, can you please link me to that channel you talk about in the first minutes, i couldnt find him
@IzzoWingChun
@IzzoWingChun 2 жыл бұрын
Which guy? Black Rhino Martial Arts?
@MartialArtsViking
@MartialArtsViking 2 жыл бұрын
@@IzzoWingChun yes thank you, gonna sub in and watch some of his content
@chriskrueger8225
@chriskrueger8225 2 жыл бұрын
He went to boxing because he was nothing more than an intermediate at most in Wing Chun. I guarantee Bruce never learned the footwork. Which is why he ran after Wong Jack Man instead of closing the gap using footwork.
@IzzoWingChun
@IzzoWingChun 2 жыл бұрын
100%
@MasterTrainerFred
@MasterTrainerFred Жыл бұрын
This video made me a subscriber. I actually meant to subscribe after I saw your post on Joseph Simonet. I flew out and trained with him in Washington for a few years at Wind & Rock. I also train JKD in NYC at the NYMAA. Most JKD and Wing Chun instructors in NYC are assholes. I hate when JKD instructors mention Bruce Lee at all. I began Martial arts to be myself, no one else.
@trondyne3513
@trondyne3513 2 жыл бұрын
Bruce taught a straight blast.. there's even a JKD school called Straight Blast... But the lead straight isn't a Wing Chun technique... Btw I would assert that there is no such thing as a "chain punch"... But yeah these guys are clowns ... They demo moves they don't know how to do and then say it doesn't work. Pretty funny actually.
@Alan-jr8zm
@Alan-jr8zm 9 ай бұрын
I'll go with Thomas.
@ytb460
@ytb460 Жыл бұрын
My first sifu studied JKD at the alleged academy and said it was in a bad area and they weren't capable to defend themselves. He wasn't impressed.
@gavmed8620
@gavmed8620 2 жыл бұрын
Iv 20 years wc/wt experience and anyone that says they know everything after a few years is full of shit it’s a forever learning art u might learn something then break it down and redevelop it and so on … Bruce Lee wasn’t old enough to master any art imo that’s why he made his own .. shoot forward to such as Tommy carruthers etc I once asked him a question about other kkd people they all shit etc and he said same about wt guys iv trained the Ebmas system for 10 years and it’s awesome yet Tommy carruthers opinion it’s shit just seems every jkd guy are egotistical and arrogant can’t take them
@fudochi-dojo1527
@fudochi-dojo1527 2 жыл бұрын
Very well explained. Being a second generation JKD instructor myself, I can only confirm what you are criticizing in this video. Not only is it simply wrong, but the fact that Wing Chun concepts are completely misunderstood and put in a bad light is pathetic. I myself have spent a long time studying Wing Chun to understand the basis on which Bruce Lee developed his JKD. I must say that JKD has taken a lot of concepts from Wing Chun. However, since most people look at the externak techniques and not at the principles or intentions behind them, the common observer does not notice it.
@Ezekiel-rv3pe
@Ezekiel-rv3pe 4 ай бұрын
Hey man , you got good unbiased videos. I was wondering if you knew of any videos with wing chun principles being applied to judo?
@metrolinamartialarts
@metrolinamartialarts 2 жыл бұрын
I don't like the Jeet Kune Do community either 😅🤣
@Bevallalom
@Bevallalom 2 жыл бұрын
I love your analysis. He doesn't know wing chun nor jkd...
@JKDVIPER
@JKDVIPER 2 жыл бұрын
I’m back.. had to step out real quick. Let’s see this 😮
@mattmiller7345
@mattmiller7345 2 жыл бұрын
That looked so damn sloppy. I’ve only learned up to the second part of Siu Nim Tao, so my Wing Chun knowledge is extremely limited, but what I had just seen looked extremely poor.
@contemporaryfighter
@contemporaryfighter 2 жыл бұрын
That guy teaches from the table of contents of the book series "Bruce Lee's Fighting Method". Lol.
@wingoreviewsboxingandmma3667
@wingoreviewsboxingandmma3667 2 жыл бұрын
When 2 martial arts that don't work criticize one another. Im getting the popcorn out for this video.
@IzzoWingChun
@IzzoWingChun 2 жыл бұрын
Says a “boxer” who would soil himself if he ever forgot his gloves and headgear in a street fight. Stay in your lane and keep playing tag.
@wingoreviewsboxingandmma3667
@wingoreviewsboxingandmma3667 2 жыл бұрын
@@IzzoWingChun your from Chicago? I'm not far from there, would you like to fight me in Vale Tudo no rules, since you could make me "soil" myself? Cause I don't think you can and I'm willing to prove you can't
@wingoreviewsboxingandmma3667
@wingoreviewsboxingandmma3667 2 жыл бұрын
@@IzzoWingChun btw keep playing fat guy that's never been on a real fight in his life other than at the buffet line
@IzzoWingChun
@IzzoWingChun 2 жыл бұрын
@@wingoreviewsboxingandmma3667 the younger me absolutely would. The older me doesn’t give a f about proving anything to you kids in the comments. 😉
@wingoreviewsboxingandmma3667
@wingoreviewsboxingandmma3667 2 жыл бұрын
@@IzzoWingChun keep telling yourself that. We all know Wing Chun doesn't work except for ip man movies
@ThomasJones-sz3sx
@ThomasJones-sz3sx Жыл бұрын
I trained at Ct. Traditional Wing Chun in Berlin, Ct. under Master Dave Gallo. Dave trained under Master Keith Mazza who was personally trained by Grand Master William Cheung.
@shynn-obislick3925
@shynn-obislick3925 2 жыл бұрын
Im a kickboxing instructor. I have done Chinese kempo, Sanshou, Wing Chun and JKD. He is purposely not chambering with power. You chamber with light punches when using to overwhelm the opponent because of the speed of launching the next attack, but you pivot and turn into the side fist to get power, though the later will take some speed from a follow up chambered attack. Its like the difference between a jab and a straight punch. jabs have little power compared to a straight punch. People are using the rotational power, which still applies in a forward stance. Yes it can be applied with the wing Chun chambering by rotation of hips/shoulders as you step Into the strike. I don't know why people dishonor these styles by lying and claiming these things. I have cross-trained in 50 arts. I will always be a kickboxer first, and I follow a JKD concept in my study, but I always honor all martial arts as I have gained something from every art I cross-trained in.
@justacontrarian
@justacontrarian Жыл бұрын
Bruce Lee published a book in his life, "Chinese Gung-Fu: The Philosophical Art of Self-Defense (1963). And he was the technical editor (I'm not sure what that means LOL) to his friend James Yimm Lee's 1972 book, "Wing Chun Kung-Fu." Other than that, I don't disagree with most of what you said. I consider myself a "JKD guy," yet there was stuff that Sijo Lee got wrong. It happens. Later some of it was corrected, such as Sijo's take on Muay Thai, Savate, and perhaps Wing Chun (?) -- I have in mind teachers like Sifu Francis Fong. But for good or ill, the curriculum for the historical Jun Fan Gung-Fu/JKD hasn't changed itself, despite what detractors in the "original JKD" camp may think. Anyway, I enjoy your videos sir.
@noahprice9540
@noahprice9540 Жыл бұрын
Your biceps are huge. A bjj practitioner or local security officer would have a hard time restraining you.
@AjaychinuShah
@AjaychinuShah Жыл бұрын
I promise you someone is charging right into his blind sides. You knew it.
@JKDVIPER
@JKDVIPER 2 жыл бұрын
13:47 We are instructed and it is well known. That we never enter using the LAN WAH KUEN or JIK CHEUNG CHOY. It’s part of the curriculum to not use it in ENTRIES. 😉💯💥
@ROBERTHOCKER
@ROBERTHOCKER Жыл бұрын
It's a relief hearing someone who knows what they are talking about .keep up the excellent videos. Bruce. Lee what a black sash. That is the first sash. It is equivalent to white belt. He was killed by A 3rd degree black belt.
@pendragonfilm
@pendragonfilm Жыл бұрын
I just looked up your second form and no wonder WC is looked at in dismay , the amount of instructors teaching this thst look like old lawyers who impress their board with a Bruce Lee punch is unending. Like monkey stylists that are laughable till you see the monkey fist master from Taiwan , his hands and his CV and you realise that it’s actually very real but 95% of teachers and practitioners aren’t .
@joeblogs-vx4ep
@joeblogs-vx4ep 8 ай бұрын
Is there any for instance where inferior chain punching could be more applicable to superior boxing style hook punches i personally think not ..
@ROBERTHOCKER
@ROBERTHOCKER Жыл бұрын
Instructors like that teach dangerous moves that could seriously injure or kill student in a real fight.
@JKDVIPER
@JKDVIPER Жыл бұрын
24:22 That wasn’t JKD. Bruce liked the THAI ELBOW better than the hook. That kids footwork was sloppy too. The hits weren’t that hard either. Bad positioning. All of it. That guy is delusional. I stop by his page to offer help or at least I’m polite. Anything I disagree with him on. He says “I’ll block you” 😂I still go over there n read him the riot act. 😂
@wcwingchun1496
@wcwingchun1496 Жыл бұрын
Ok, for suck sake....When he says there is nothing behind it....Such a lack of Yiu ma.
@RK-dl4ss
@RK-dl4ss Жыл бұрын
hello Dominik and greetings from Germany may I ask you frankly, is jet kune do suitable for self-defense? Or is Krav Maga better? From these videos I can see that Jet kune do is probably not suitable for real self-defense, is it???
@thedojodjsx9605
@thedojodjsx9605 2 жыл бұрын
Tommy and his sped up reels LMAOOO 😂
@audalacosta2771
@audalacosta2771 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for pointing this out you are 100 percent 🙏 correct 👍
@thedojodjsx9605
@thedojodjsx9605 2 жыл бұрын
Thomas is a punk yo. Zero martial arts background in any style but anyone can call themselves JKd that's the thing and suddenly hey Presto you the disciple of Bruce Lee himself 🙃🤔
@corywheeldon1538
@corywheeldon1538 2 жыл бұрын
This guy I've just seen videos of him, saying that wing chun would never work, this guy is the wrong person to promote jkd, promoting the complete opposite to what bruce believed and pursued.
@corywheeldon1538
@corywheeldon1538 2 жыл бұрын
These guys are promoting the opposite of what bruce promoted. Bruce was a massive fan of the chain punch and actually used it in an altercation that was talked about more by Dan inosanto. So these people are discrediting a concept bruce was a big fan of, so I wouldn't call this a good promotion of real jkd
@jamesmarr8736
@jamesmarr8736 Жыл бұрын
Well said
@JKDVIPER
@JKDVIPER 2 жыл бұрын
5:47 Wrong DOM. It is an art. It is recognized by the world as an art. It has a curriculum. We have a history. Beyond that.. we are encouraged to break away or chop down and strip away. But it is an art. You haven’t seen the good stuff then. You’ll see.
@justdoblueycl-ghl961
@justdoblueycl-ghl961 2 жыл бұрын
18:00 LOL Your face was priceless during the so called Blast
@danilobassu3791
@danilobassu3791 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much.
@KurtisJoseph
@KurtisJoseph 2 жыл бұрын
I have to admit as well that we were taught to blast the head. Nothing else... unless it is a "concept implying forward pressure. Forward pressure is something that is stressed. Have you done any content on this through demonstration? I would be interested in seeing that.
@johnabrams8148
@johnabrams8148 Жыл бұрын
I had a friend that was taking boxing lessons and he got into a bar fight. He said he was scared to death, and he just threw a lot of straight punches fast and the guy went down. Those are chain punches, no?
@MrSteveC
@MrSteveC 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like you’ve finally found your lane Izzo, great stuff.
@Lasombrosidad
@Lasombrosidad Жыл бұрын
Come on guys, Wing chun and Jeet Kune Do are related in various aspects, you are like a family fighting for the way a word is pronounced. Wing chun has the stop kick and JKD too, wing Chun has the finger strike and JKD too, both arts share the center line concept and both work the speed. Instead of fighting for the claims of the other, just make your art evolve in a full contact environment, the facts are the best proof, not the words.
@JimmyPunkWrestling
@JimmyPunkWrestling 2 жыл бұрын
One thing that most people forget these days on Wing Chun videos it's the gates. First of all, my Wing Chun was taught to me by my father and he didn't teach me about lineages so I'm not going into that topic. One thing my dad did teach me, and one of the most important at that, is that of the gates, and trying to fight to the outside gate of the non dexterous side of the opponent. For example, someone comes at me with a boxing stance and his foremost hand it's the left, which means he's right handed or at least pretending to be, I close that gap to the outside gate of his left and Tan Da (Tan Sao and simultaneously Chung Kuen, but can be any strike or combination of strikes) and it's probably over. Economy of movements, that's Wing Chun, not like this "demonstration" from a guy, that I totally agree with you Izzo, doesn't know squat of Wing Chun, that the student when does the Lin Wan Kuen does it to the inside gate, which is the most common mistake that guys in KZbin videos do fighting against not Wing Chun opponents and get their asses handed to them.
@benglasby8014
@benglasby8014 2 жыл бұрын
Mike Tyson V Lennox Lewis was when 1. Tyson wasn’t in his prime. 2. Tyson’s training had changed and the peekaboo techniques weren’t there.
@IzzoWingChun
@IzzoWingChun 2 жыл бұрын
And that changes what? He still was kept out by the jab. We can “what if” all day.
@jacobharris954
@jacobharris954 11 ай бұрын
Neither was Lewis
@terryvallerjkd
@terryvallerjkd Жыл бұрын
Great points, think the problem is some jkd people from most linage, really don’t work the wing Chun in the art. Howard definitely has great points with Marc.
@TheBest-sd2qf
@TheBest-sd2qf Жыл бұрын
Are you saying that hooks are useless and should be avoided?
@nathanarmstrong7636
@nathanarmstrong7636 5 ай бұрын
Circumstances dictate tactics. Most real statement ever.
@stuarthughes3747
@stuarthughes3747 2 жыл бұрын
i enjoy your channel .. i dont have a lot of knowledge of wing chun .. i have been doing jka shotokan for over 50 years .. but i do know that most of what ive seen of this is lot of these guys would not fair well from leg attacks & ashi bari (sweeps).. a man cant fight if his legs have gone .. just my take on it keep up the good work mate from the uk OSS
@stuarthughes3747
@stuarthughes3747 2 жыл бұрын
thanks izzo
@spirithonorsjeetkunedo1877
@spirithonorsjeetkunedo1877 2 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean, I've been doing Tommy Carruther's online courses and I left because of their bad attitude. But luckily I found after that the JKD I've been looking for, was way more scientific and a lot more biomechanically explained.
@AjaychinuShah
@AjaychinuShah Жыл бұрын
Hi Master Izzo, are there black Paladin Saints, underground community, what can we do? Please tell 😅😊.
@everlastingwingchundunedin4776
@everlastingwingchundunedin4776 2 жыл бұрын
woah that was a bad chain punch..if ya think of a chain has links then the chain punch is linked togeather as one continuous attack just like the form and chi sau this means the whole body, or everything has purpose in it..not shrugging the shoulders looking out the window wondering what's on Netflix doing a half arsed version simply copying a movement without understanding how it works or is applied.
@countfrincula
@countfrincula 2 жыл бұрын
Dud. This ist real jkd. Not a movie technic like kung fu or wc or something else. YOU are the one who has no idea 😂. Black rhino??? Black Chubby rhino.
@IzzoWingChun
@IzzoWingChun 2 жыл бұрын
if this is REAL jkd, then it is REAL horse sh*t
@countfrincula
@countfrincula 2 жыл бұрын
@@IzzoWingChunhaha aha and you think wc works in a real street fight ?? CCTV is the answer
@j.murphy4884
@j.murphy4884 2 жыл бұрын
@@countfrincula I'm yet to see the footage where a street fight is won with knee kicks and finger jabs, care to enlighten me?
@countfrincula
@countfrincula 2 жыл бұрын
@@j.murphy4884 sure. I used it four times in real street fights. And it works.
@IzzoWingChun
@IzzoWingChun 2 жыл бұрын
@@countfrincula no you haven’t.
@chrisgermann6658
@chrisgermann6658 2 жыл бұрын
good breakdown. Yes i noticed lack of "sinking" hip energy with the close quarter strikes along with lack of footing and posture. If the structure is not on point then the power is limited to the limb your using rather than the entire body working as a single unit.
@Leonidas3888
@Leonidas3888 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I concur with many of your thoughts on the jkd community. My cousin trained with Insanto in socal and his dad was a Bruce Lee nut as well as my other uncle's. A friend of mine partnered up to open a jkd studio in Fresno years ago. What I've noticed over the years is all of these teachers I've witnessed seem to mimic Lee's movies choreography and the give away is when they mimic his mannerisms and facial expressions. Now this is cute when you are 7 yrs old but not so much for full grown men. From everything I've heard and read on jkd is that idea was use whatever works for you or basically mma for the street. So if your Kareem abdul Jabar you naturally would use your reach and not in fighting and shoot for double legs. I'm tired of all these 1 inch punch videos which I assumed was purely a demo of power not an actual fight technique. All this gayness just gives ammo to the dumbass mma community (not the intelligent ones) to rag on traditional martial arts even further. Its gross how so many including his daughter profit from exploiting Lee and his concepts. Also I'm no expert but I think Vitor Belforts early fights in UFC kinda were like a straight blast? Vs Wanderlei Silva is a good one.
@StuLau
@StuLau 2 жыл бұрын
Why does wing chun not appear in MMA? I study lau gar and love it. Thanks for another great video
@overtyrantfear
@overtyrantfear 2 жыл бұрын
Will you ever do content on the Butterfly knives?(I think thats what they are called) Always seemed cool too me.
@reallifeengineer7214
@reallifeengineer7214 2 жыл бұрын
8-slashing-knives. Bat Zam Dao. "Butterfly knives" is a generic term that covers "dual short swords" from a variety of Southern-China styles. So WC's 8-slashing-knives is technically a variant of the Butterfly Knives. HOWEVER, there are "design features" on the 8-slashing-knives that makes it uniquely WC...
@sjwtrading8520
@sjwtrading8520 Жыл бұрын
Do a video on his instructor Tommy Carruthers from Glasgow Scotland
@roninmusashimiayamoto241
@roninmusashimiayamoto241 2 жыл бұрын
Well this goes back to the birth of jkd,when he fought Wong jack man he was winded and said if I knew boxing I would have been able to throw hooks and uppercut bc he was straight blasting him and Wong ran.BUT IF HE USED THE JKD STRAIGHT BLAST THE 3RD PUNCH MIGHT KILLYA
@IzzoWingChun
@IzzoWingChun 2 жыл бұрын
And if he stuck to Wing Chun, he’d have learned that hooks and uppercuts are in the second form.
@roninmusashimiayamoto241
@roninmusashimiayamoto241 2 жыл бұрын
@@IzzoWingChun whatever you say just FYI don't repeat that to any serious martial artist again bc they will never take you serious
@josefraguas2768
@josefraguas2768 Жыл бұрын
Still trying to “shape” the water.
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