More Class Changes UPDATE - The War Within

Find out if your class survived this round of buffs and nerfs.

[@davidlivingston8268]

So instead of fixing what is bad... they made everything that is good, worse. Interesting approach

[@lh9072]

Chrono shift removal for arcane is devastating. I honestly don’t know how the spec will play without it.

[@lottiebearmike]

The removal would be fine if they allowed slow to apply to all targets hit by your blast like it used to be.

[@rosemorningstar5368]

This really is devastating. I loved how it gave Arcane the zoomies. It’s been one of my favorite parts about the spec. I really hope they revert it.

[@cds5506]

It's absolutely gutting. It was handy for PVE and CRITICAL for PVP.

[@Bobbie91]

Yeah devs are totally out of the loop of what the playerbase likes 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Castorcato]

It's stupid they didn't even consider a PvP talent for it. Not that wed have enough room. Pissed off

[@user-pb4nd5wo2d]

Fun fact: Removing arena and bgs makes your heart last 23% longer overall and blood pressure lower 21% and frustration lvl by 204%! Lets all go back to good old sm spam and brd chill

[@457missile]

I think with social media and KZbinrs posting cool builds that nuke people invites blizzard to nerf the hell out of classes ..

[@Damingo54]

Love your vids. I watch them all. However I’d also love it if you slowed down a little bit going over them. I know there is a lot and would make a longer video but I’d enjoy it.

[@andyc8707]

If you want them fast? don't ask him to slow down. Its how he gets there first.

[@Trilash]

And here I watch them at 150% playback speed. You could always change the playback speed to 75%. Unless you're saying you'd like him to go into more detail, not the speed he talks at.

[@Damingo54]

@@andyc8707 Relax bro it was merely a suggestion

[@user-vm8tz8lr4n]

DK gonna be a limp noodle on release like it always is the way there going lol

[@angrygun7826]

Dks are known for theyre smarts

[@TheArmouryOfficial]

@@angrygun7826 i almost bit before rereading OP lmao

[@hunterbell2066]

I'm curious what the Arcane changes end up being in terms of buffs or nerfs. 3 main abilities got nerfed but one got buffed, Siphon Storm got baked into Evocation, and the Aether attunement talent got a very nice buff which you can now get while also having access to Evo/Siphon Storm. I'm almost leaning towards a buff since you can get all your best/fun talents now. Any who, thanks for the video and you got a like and subscribe from me.

[@GrimmRanger-Thrall]

yo supa, is there any new arcane mage build sense the update ?

[@logannigro3310]

Let’s gooo frost do for the win

[@Luna-kw8rw]

Unholy dks got nerfed pretty hard

[@jessehendrix5050]

It's almost like they're trying to pigeonhole shadow priests into archon with the constant void weaver nerfs

[@FCBcubano]

It looks like for boomy they are trying to make it so our eclipse is only lunar. Which isn't bad just means we need more procs or things to allow our starfre to be instant or worth while compared to other casters abilities

[@tomselby24]

they should just make more single target builds for pvp

[@nothinghere2056]

Blizzard wants players to pick up frost by nerfing unholy. To make something look good , something must look bad.

[@Eliteninja007]

Im uh main…i was looking forward for this exp….i WAS…

[@TotalRejection]

When was the last time people played Frost over UH. UH players just should sit back and watch. They will come out ahead anyways, as always.

[@Eliteninja007]

@@TotalRejection choice should made by oneself not bcz one is dogshit :)

[@Krassus7101]

Wait, so shamans are the only ones affected in PvP? All those buffs/nerfs prior were all for PVE only?

[@TheKb051]

no, they apply to the class as a whole, pvp changes are when they make changes only for pvp. the PVE changes also apply in pvp

[@Complication84]

Typical Blizzard approach to balance. Instead of fixing or buffing the specs/classes that suck they nerf the shit out of the ones that are actually good. Balance = everything sucks

[@dTheHammerb]

Enhancement Shaman is absolutely DOA in TWW.

[@Juxer_SC]

Calm down chicken little.

[@nomonetosaxl]

Doa?

[@Heldensocke-nh9cj]

It’s not and you know you are being ridiculous.

[@Heldensocke-nh9cj]

@@nomonetosaxldead on Arrival

[@Lordmoee]

@@nomonetosaxldead on arrival

[@LSGunter]

I had to replay the frost dk part again....and again.....I miss frost and I'm tired of playing unholy because it's designed to be better. Thanks for the update breakdown.

[@user-gt3nj5nu6o]

As a Rogue main,and Unholy alt, this new expansion is really looking grim.

[@emansfield2017]

As an enhancement main, yeah same

[@TheArmouryOfficial]

not enough rogues to test on beta, they have almost no representation in logs.

[@svarog8253]

@@TheArmouryOfficialit says something on the class that the dev should look into it. Like “why no one play the class” but they are afking in blizzard so nothing happens

[@TheArmouryOfficial]

@@svarog8253 rogue has the stigma of being big brain to play, and leveling as rogue is hard so new players are easily turned off. Rogue being an iconic fantasy trope, and seeing little to no play, is wild to me.

[@Kurnhelios]

What’s their obsession with buffing DK damage and nerfing their survivability? Other bruisers have healing baked into their damage abilities but we have to press death strike - why nerf san’layn tankiness for unholy, just nerf damage???

[@Eliteninja007]

Bcz they are fcking nobrainer idiots. Reason and logic is not existing at the pvp devs. Yeah i want also 30% leech like dhs…i guess this will be my last expansion to play

[@angrygun7826]

​@@Eliteninja007oh no a DK the anti fun class isnt going to be busted on release and make everyone quit

[@Eliteninja007]

@@angrygun7826 if you are saying this you have no comparison to other classes only from the outside :)

[@TotalRejection]

All of these changes are PvE-centered... Do you really think they design classes around PvP?

[@freyrTV]

Love the changes for resto and ele. Looks like enha will be next week. All the hero talents still need a lot of work and the class tree is somehow worse for enha. Worried we will run out of time, and get something half assed again.

[@lankeysob]

They said they were pretty happy with enhance. I wouldn’t expect anything but some super minor tweaks

[@user-xm3zm6im3k]

blizz about to make me preorder with this frost DK numberfixing.. ye clap unholy back a little, its way over the top as a dot spec, way too much burst dmg, Frost is where its at

[@Thanagor779]

DK destroyed before release again?!?!

[@kittenpunk02]

You know what game has way cooler shamans back in the day Allods online and even being level 10 felt way stronger then a wow shaman

[@MrAndrewchiujs]

Bro tell me you don’t know about frost dk without telling me you don’t… how is any of that a buff to frost dk???

[@lam1982linden]

When do they fix enhancement shaman? Wow 2.0?

[@tylerchapman8856]

What's wrong with enhancement

[@rixxa5952]

Everything

[@tylerchapman8856]

@@rixxa5952 like what

[@rixxa5952]

@@tylerchapman8856 pvp speaking, enha shaman Is a joke. Burst Is predictable, low def mechanism, kitable, rough rotation...enha Is One of the wrost pvp spec atm

[@tylerchapman8856]

@rixxa5952 pvp is barely an after thought

[@moomoodeadcow]

Sometimes I think the people who made these "balance" changes don't play the game at all. Sometimes I think they wouldn't play the game if I asked.

[@Ozmaniac2k]

Blizz gave up on rogues lol

[@KennethKnightBlustripe]

3rd patch in a row with no evoker information? Guess it’s perfect ?

[@donaldpeace]

The mongoose fury change was one of the best changes for survival they could have ever done. It finally fixed the rotation. I literally can not believe people complained about it. It's depressing that mongoose fury is once again irrelevant. It's hardly anything work tracking in retail and it's even worse in tww now that you spend time pressing kill command when in retail you barely ever did. The change fixed mongoose fury and now it has been reverted to the trash version. Sad

[@donaldpeace]

I also loved the 2 stacks of tip of the spear boost to tip of the spear also... wish they would add it to pack leader buffs for kill command process somehow

[@goonga37]

Unholy DK's 🙃🙃🙃

[@TheGamerGuy1981]

Meh.... it's nice to see them buffing frost but the nerfs to Unholy are an odd choice. They are already focused down by melee fairly easily. Show me on the Unholy doll where the DK touched you blizzard. Only hope i have here is most the DK channels i watch said Unholy was doing insane in beta so... hopefully this isn't as bad as it sounds.

[@TheBoyyWonder100]

Another nerf to Shadow priest

[@JKane_88]

DK's were so fun and so good during the beta. All these Dk nerfs suck... Same with Fire mage. Why not just buff all classes to be on par with DK's and Fire mages. Blizzard always does this crap man

[@sumolover2973]

The Rogue hero talents still need work.

[@bepa3671]

Sin overtuned 😂

[@svarog8253]

@@hvdiv17lol overtuned😂😂😂

[@Dontaethefist]

from what i heard unholy was like uber slapping on beta either way. hope they dont get gutted by these nerfs.

[@Eliteninja007]

The expansion hasnt started and unholy is starting to get nerfed 😂😂 while other classes getting 100 dmg buffs…. Seriously…this is so annoying, blizzard really need a sweeping in the group

[@bravos2709]

Yup, thats about it arcane mage fans, hope y enjoyed your 5 mins of glory, unfortunately blizz doesn't like arcane being popular too long so had to remove chrono shift, absolutely critical for pvp talent.... hope they reverse it or compensate somehow, btw, be ready for further nerfs, evocation grant intellect - its matter of days when next nerf will come to balance it out - watch :)

[@Undertaker257]

Godspeed blizz

[@Heldensocke-nh9cj]

I’m impressed by all the shaman experts in the comments … literally no clue about the class and based on % of shaman players in retail I assume they don’t play shaman actually or their just bad and blame it on tuning

[@memofreire]

get out of here pve sheep

[@user-pb4nd5wo2d]

And your a multi r1 god huge fan bro keep up all the good stuff smashing all at 1400 rating

[@Heldensocke-nh9cj]

@@user-pb4nd5wo2d put 1300 on top and you got it right little insecure boy :-) not saying that is top but it’s like around the top 10% so I think I can talk

[@Undertaker257]

Its ptretty much same for every class and spec, clueless are the ones crying, the sweetest of tears.

[@leftyzappa]

Getting irritated about shaman. Streamlining abilities while ignoring enhancement. I thought enhancement was primarily a melee spec. It can’t be when it is so fragile and most of their stuff is on gcd. We all know this. Blizzard doesn’t give a shit. Good night.

[@narakou100]

still no augmentation evoker buff

[@AdrianRuiz-wb5mo]

0 class updates for rogues?

[@jeje4131]

Typical blizzard same across all games instead of making what is bad good they take what is good and dumb it down. Fun detected.

[@457missile]

Why is priest always getting nerfed ? Straight bs

[@user-tw1dt4no7f]

The only reason i fking mained arcane was chrono shift. FK THIS GAME

[@Bobbie91]

Enha shaman absolutely gutted

[@digitecha.2641]

god blizz is so bad at balancing

[@xxgamerxx6074]

I have never posted on the official blizzard forums but I am going to complain about chrono shift removal its the only thing that makes arcane fun

[@eugenesternin6039]

Please, stop with the fake advertisement. Shamans are not partying

[@Bobbie91]

Butchered enha ,took enhas tallents gave it to Ele , braindead devs

[@jasonroman578]

Great now all mages are forced to play ARCANE again because blizz nerfed fire into uselessness

[@user-tw1dt4no7f]

Now i gotta go against warriors stupid 0 iq charges with no movement. trash ass game.

[@IamZukes]

You can blink, freeze and play how mages used to play before this talent. Mages always known to have loads of movement and control.

[@jackkilyan]

@@IamZukesapart from now warriors can literally charge out of every root so yeah…

[@user32352]

dh so useless. dmg bot no tools, boring. rerolling to fdk

[@Hatch889]

I have beta but I don’t play it

[@kevinjs26]

Even with these Shaman reworks, the elemental hero talent trees are still horrendous.