Mormons try to CONVERT Jordan Peterson

Two LDS missionaries, dressed in their crisp white shirts and ties, knocked on Dr. Peterson's door one sunny morning. Dr. Peterson, who was familiar with the Mormon church, graciously welcomed them into his cozy home. He had a reputation for engaging in debates, and he saw this as an opportunity to engage in a spirited dialogue.
Mormon Missionary, Elder Smith, a charismatic and articulate speaker, began with a warm smile, "Hello, Dr. Peterson! We're here to share a message of hope and faith from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Also know as the LDS church"
Dr. Peterson, known for his probing questions and deep philosophical ponderings, responded, "I appreciate your commitment, gentlemen. But I must admit, I have my reservations about certain aspects of your faith."
Elder Johnson, the more patient and empathetic of the two, nodded understandingly. "We're here to address any concerns you may have and to share our beliefs," he said.
The conversation began, and Dr. Peterson presented his doubts about certain doctrines within the Mormon faith, particularly the nature of God and the historicity of the Book of Mormon. The missionaries responded with scriptures, testimonies, and explanations, but Dr. Peterson's intellectual rigor and philosophical acumen made their task challenging.
As the discussion continued, the missionaries noticed that their arguments and scripture references were not making the impact they hoped for. Dr. Peterson skillfully questioned the historical authenticity of the Book of Mormon, the theological concept of God, and the church's approach to social issues. He brought up moral and ethical dilemmas, and every point made by the missionaries seemed to fall short of convincing him.
Elder Smith, undeterred, pressed on, "Dr. Peterson, we truly believe that our faith can bring purpose and meaning to your life. The Book of Mormon can be a source of inspiration and guidance."
Dr. Peterson leaned back in his chair, looking thoughtful. "I appreciate your sincerity, but my journey has led me to different conclusions. My work as a psychologist and my study of philosophy have shaped my worldview. I value the pursuit of truth and the importance of personal responsibility."
The missionaries began to realize that converting Dr. Peterson would be no small task. His intellectual fortitude and deep-seated beliefs were a formidable barrier.
After several hours of spirited discussion, the missionaries and Dr. Peterson concluded their meeting. While the two young elders had not succeeded in converting him to their faith, they left with a newfound respect for Dr. Peterson's intellectual honesty and the depth of his convictions.
As the missionaries walked away from Dr. Peterson's home, they reflected on their encounter. They knew that while they hadn't achieved their goal, the conversation had been a meaningful exchange of ideas and beliefs. They left with the hope that they had planted a seed of curiosity in Dr. Peterson's mind, one that might someday lead him to a deeper understanding of their faith. And Dr. Peterson, for his part, continued to pursue his own path of exploration, embracing the values of truth, responsibility, and meaning that he held dear.
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[@Lovecatholicfaith]

His wife got baptized in Catholic Church 🙏

[@crawfordcockers]

You're right, there's no upside to him answering questions that he can't possibly answer in good faith when the answers will alienate his base of customers

[@ubermormon9611]

I wish he had answered those questions. He probably would have to say something like “if it works for you man.”

[@123mneil]

How did I miss this video?

[@bartonbagnes4605]

He's fulfilling prophecy, "Ever learning, and never able to come to a knowledge of the truth."

[@juliopenaloza5655]

I dont think the members asking those questions were in it for the glory of trying to be the one helping convert Jordan P. If they genuinely believe their faith then they are just trying to share what they believe is true to help a prominent figure come to what they believe true, regardless of who does it. It takes a pretty antagonistic person to perceive it as selfish, which leads to thinking its cringey. But if TBMs are right and not in it for themselves, then suddenly it's not cringey at all, which kind of defeats the point of the video. It's true though that he would avoid those questions in order to not tread on controversial grounds and avoid losing an audience of paying customers. Phrasing it in a way as to not crush their dreams though is probably a bit too assuming and presumptious.

[@elizabethrehm470]

Peterson is too smart to join the LDS church.

[@ubermormon9611]

Amen

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

You're too dumb.

[@EricLovesCHRIST]

One of the smartest people of all time is lds It’s not a smart/stupid thing It’s about faith Are you capable of believing in the Easter Bunny or not?

[@ubermormon9611]

You’ve peak my curiosity, who is the person you are referring to?

[@EricLovesCHRIST]

@@ubermormon9611 Ken Jennings Jeopardy GOAT 🐐

[@Quest762]

So I was there and I don’t remember the questions displayed on a screen

[@truthingham4267]

Is that a "Miraculous Medal" stickered to the back of your compunter?

[@ubermormon9611]

Haha It is a TF brewing sticker actually. What is Miraculous medal?

[@Converturned-1]

@@ubermormon9611It’s a medal of Jesus’ mother Mary! It says “blessed virgin, conceived without sin pray for us” or something like that. It’s awesome!!!

[@CLTobey]

I found myself cringing as you described this whole scene. Why are my people so weird? Good on JP and Michaela for gracefully dodging this silliness.

[@ubermormon9611]

There was really no other option for them. Although I often wonder, if push came to shove, would JPs audience be more loyal to him or Russel?

[@davidteeples2558]

Jordan Petersons lectures helped me a great deal as I left the church. I really like alot of his ideas and his lectures on genesis in the Bible were brilliant!

[@ubermormon9611]

Same friend!

[@The_Noah_Merrill]

“We can’t shatter these people’s dreams” 😂

[@user-mj9gy2io4e]

wow, a 90 second story told in over 9 minutes

[@ubermormon9611]

Better than a fake story told in 531 pages.

[@cinnamondan4984]

This commentary was humorous. Thanks for sharing

[@ubermormon9611]

Thanks for watching!

[@pyrobreather1]

I think about this question with every religion/sect, not as a disproof of religion in general or any one religion in particular, but as a way to have more interesting conversations/thoughts: multiple religions claim to be the right one. How, generallly speaking, would one know if they were born into or found the right one? Does being right feel the same as being wrong? Can you evaluate the validity of your own faith (or lack therof) objectivelly, particularly with how much of your life is based on it? Does everyone have a concience that can tell? Would you have to read every religious text before choosing? How would Mormons answer these questions? I wonder what would happen if Peterson took such an inquiry based approach with various religious leaders/missiionaries/apologists. Would Mormons ever agree to such a format?

[@ubermormon9611]

You seem like you would really enjoy the Street epistemology videos that Anthony Magnibosco did years ago. He converts a lot of that ground with people. It was also the theme of the video I made about two weeks ago about Mormon testimonies.

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

Every church does claim to be the one. But many are proven wrong just from history books. Pastors just interpret the Bible, which it itself teaches can't be done by any man (Peter). God answers that question. Only the LDS church teaches for someone to pray and ask him to know if what is being taught is the truth. No other does that. If someone truly wants to know, they do it without fear as nothing can interfere with a prayer to the Father in the name of Jesus. Otherwise, they just want a religion that's convenient for their lifestyle and are talkers, not walkers.

[@pyrobreather1]

@@WatchingwaitingG2D Does LDS teach that there are any preconditions for that? For instance, does one first have to be familiar with what LDS teaches or some amount of it? Is there any particular wording or specific points to such a prayer that are essential, or would a prayer of, "God, is the LDS claim to be the one and only true church of Jesus Christ true?" be equivalent? Is the way one will know if the answer they get is from God, their own mind, or some other spirit something that is describable either in full or in part by words, or is it not describable?

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

@pyrobreather1 read my comment again carefully. Every other church teaches from the Bible yet believes and teaches different things. They use scripture against scripture, which is against what it teaches. The two messages from the Bible are first Jesus is the way, and find someone who can't explain the rest. How was that done in the Bibles time frames? The LDS church teaches what no one else can and explains why they can. The missionary lessons cover this. God answers specific questions depending on how each individual asks them. He respects each as an individual. He answers if what is taught is truth. He does not pick and choose. A person does. He does not answer concerning foolish lies and mistruths because he knows the intentions of that person. He answers to prove he exists and that a person is on the right path to further truth. He himself will test that person's true intentions. God doesn't lie. When he answers, it is truth. Anyone trying to find some reason to discredit that calls God a liar, which is what mocking is in the scriptures. From that point, they lose their way. When much is given, one can't be satisfied with less.

[@pyrobreather1]

@@WatchingwaitingG2D When you say read your comment again carefully, do you mean that either in the questions I asked or the way I asked them, I failed to understand or attempt to understand something that you said, or that there was something that I missed? If so, what specifically? When you say He does not answer concerning foolish lies or mistruths, what do you mean by that? Do you mean if He is asked if a particular bit of foolishness is true, if He is asked a stupid or illogical question, if He is asked insincerely, some combination of these, or do you mean something else entirely? When you said "Anyone trying to find a reason to discredit that..." what is the "that," specifically? When you said in your original comment only the LDS church teaches for someone to pray and ask him if what is being taught is the truth, was that given as an argument in favor of it being true, or for other reasons instead of that one, or other reasons as well as that one?

[@joshuakelly9788]

I really enjoy listening to you. You have a radio voice and your perspective is relatable to others who can sympathize with you. If the LDS church would be more admitting to their mistakes and didn't whitewash so much of the historical errors then we might not be watching these vids. It's difficult and I in many ways am disappointed as you are with the whole experience of the restoration of the Gospel. With that being said perhaps you should ask your viewers what type of content they would like to see. Fair and balanced.

[@ubermormon9611]

Thank you very much!

[@noahlebaron1957]

Whats mistakes and what whitewashed.

[@WatchingwaitingG2D]

People who don't follow the commandments talking against people that do. They always expose themselves.

[@matthewdaw6485]

Video title: Oh, looki here, a gossipy inside story about Jordan Peterson's reaction to mormonism Actual video: Once upon a time Jordan Peterson ignored a question about reading The Book Of Mormon. Now lets talk crap on the LDS faith for the remaining 9 minutes of the video.

[@lew209]

So JP said nothing, and you offered an opinion on what he might say. *slowclap

[@harambeboy]

That’s it??? Give us more

[@ubermormon9611]

I wish I could! I’m giving you everything he gave them!!

[@harambeboy]

@@ubermormon9611 hahaha, just like CS Lewis, he has no interest in the LDS

[@13multipurpose]

Im glad you found something useful from JP. But I cannot find anything good to say about someone who lies so much he practically is his pwn religion.

[@dougdaniel9196]

Against Mormons but he supports his wife going Catholic. That's like shunning Diet Coke but endorsing Diet Pepsi as healthy.

[@ubermormon9611]

Then it would have been interesting if he had been avoiding questions about the Catholic Church also! I think we can both agree that you can support a spouse who attends a church while not feeling motivated to go yourself. I know people have talked about the “Catholic guilt” that was instilled in them from a young age. Is Catholicism a high demand religion? I genuinely don’t know enough about in to say it’s on the same level as Mormonism. What do you think?

[@dougdaniel9196]

@@ubermormon9611 Expressing myself on social media is getting tricky. The new world order types at Google like to censor the truth. I'll try and stay as diplomatic as possible. Religion isn't what the word of God teaches. It teaches faith in Jesus Christ and redemption for sin by his blood for confessed sinners. According to the gospel of salvation which is essentially"...How Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures and was buried and resurrected on rose again on the third day according to the scriptures" Faith and being born again has nothing to do with religion. It is the "Gift of eternal life" a personal and intimate relationship with the God who created the universe. One on one no middle man! Plain truth is ask Jesus to forgive you believing in his righteousness. Confess to God you are a sinner that needs forgiveness. That's not what religion teaches it's what God teaches.

[@joliettraveler]

Your comment makes no sense. The Mormon church has no lineage to the beginnings of Christianity.

[@dougdaniel9196]

@@joliettraveler I'm not commenting on what Mormons or Catholics are all about other than they are both religious corporations that don't have any purpose in teaching the gospel that leads an individual to the promise of Eternal Life through Jesus Christ.

[@BrandonBrisson-yp8cf]

No it's not. Catholic and Mormonism are really different from each other.

[@Will-xf3qe]

I do wonder if he would say the book has the same achetypical deep meaning or whatever he says about the Bible or if in reality he wouldn't be able to get past all the different scandalous things and obvious scammer behavior of smith. Im pretty positive that he would still prefer Mormonism over atheism

[@ubermormon9611]

I have wondered the same thing. I don’t know what he would say but in my opinion, it’s the dogmatism that makes a belief dangerous. I would rather a intellectually honest Mormon than a dogmatic atheist for sure.

[@abdennourkouideraraibi6911]

You mentioned something about Joseph Smith marrying a 14-year-old. Try reading about the lifestyle of the prophet of Islam XD

[@benjaminvandenberghe9726]

To be fair Peterson avoids concrete religious beliefs almost entirely. He’ll talk about symbolism in scripture, but won’t even say if he’s a Christian or not. So this event is pretty unremarkable as he treats Muslims/catholics/protestants who ask him the same questions the same way.

[@BlakePizzey]

Hiiiiiiilarious!!!! I went to his tour in Edmonton with my TBM dad (first thing we have done together since I left). I wanted to submit a question about community and cults but I didn't as my pops was right there.

[@Rcplanecrasher]

As a believer I remember day dreaming about JB getting and reading the BoM and giving lectures on it to the masses. Lol so delusional.

[@devinnelson5410]

That would be unbelievable and awesome!

[@jflash19]

Wow. You're sad. You say in one breath how great everyone there is, "People are just doing their best", then crap all over them for having faith in something. Why would you attack people for asking the man they paid to see about something so deeply personal to them? You have no idea what was going through Dr. Peterson's head as they scrolled through the questions. So why are you speaking for him?

[@christianlassen1577]

at the time he wouldn't even directly address his own faith in God. he's def not going to address why he won't join a specific faith in particular. you think members of our church were the only ones doing this?? most of Christianity was doing this to him as well. but if you live in Utah and that's all you see, then that's all you know we tried, because we care. we love him that much we want him to have even more. we've learn a lot from him and we know there's a lot we can teach him in return. it's a mutual benefit. we grow from each other. that's love/respect at it's best. and/or, we love his powerful insights and would love for him to be able to apply his intelligence to our beliefs and bask in the new light he could shed on them for us. which is also a sign of respect to trust his opinions about our most deeply held unique beliefs. we trusted him to handle it carefully (amd he did!). and no one is surprised he didn't. no one figured he actually would. but, shoot, it'd have been awesome if he did, right? no weird selfish motives for that. amd no harm in trying. gotta take the shot. you interpreted the sincere efforts of a large crowd to show their trust for a beloved man as something weird and creepy. and that's too bad that that's how you interpret things.

[@ubermormon9611]

If you think I made this creepy, then I gotta tell you some things about this dude named Joseph Smith. In all seriousness if “no one expected him to answer” then why did they all ask? I can respect shooting your shot, I just thought it was hilarious that he avoided the questions and it would have been MORE hilarious if he had answered truthfully. I can see how it’s a sign of respect, all I’m saying is I can also see how it’s funny. One of the beautiful things about being an exmormon is I now have double the perspectives.

[@christianlassen1577]

@@ubermormon9611 I could tell you more about Joseph Smith than you think you could tell me, no worries. people who lead others out of the church only know (or tell) part of the story. but if you want ALL the details, the story comes out with a happy ending. don't quit when the story hits the scariest bit. you lose all perspective if you do and it becomes harder to watch the movie again later because you won't think you can get through the climax again. my kids do this all the time. get to the scary part of a show and run away, and it might take them years to feel brave enough to try again.

[@yeshalloween]

Isn’t his son in law Mormon?

[@ubermormon9611]

You just sent me down the rabbit hole. Apparently his son in law and Mikayla are divorced now. I could not find anything that confirmed a religion.

[@thefish103]

Seems like you’re reading into things a bit much. Of course there are LDS members that would love to see JP engage with their faith. If you believe it will change someone’s life for the better, why wouldn’t you? That venue was clearly not the space where Mikhaila wanted such an interaction to take place (understandably so), but that doesn’t mean that every question put forth about the LDS faith was an attempt to proselytize JP.