Leaving Mormonism to Join Teal Swan’s Cult - Jared Dobson Pt. 1 | Ep 1328

[@SunscreenAndVitamins]

Interview begins at 17:46

[@sherbyberby8618]

Thank you 😊

[@checkyourhead9]

Seriously!!! 😂 Thank you

[@fullmoon1072]

But the interview didn’t even talk about Teal swan and his relationship

[@bethlanglois9361]

Lol ya dude wtf

[@justahumanbeing.709]

@@fullmoon1072 it's in 4 parts.

[@reezka68]

Omg……a teenager wanting to hit himself with a baseball bat to try to control his natural sexual development. The pain of this ought to be a chargeable offence against children/teenagers. Such a brave man. Thanks for sharing your experiences

[@hemfri07]

Well,since,He-Jared Dobson (DuMBson),it telling a "TRUTH" about Mary Teal Bosworth,(then Scot,final Swan-like the bird) , why was he with her at first plate ,WHY WAS HE WITH HER AT ALL?!?!? 🤔🙄 It seems,like He-Jared,was prepared to do "Litteraly Anything that was asked from him to do?) Beacouse of WHAT?-Sex?,...listen,Jared 's story /conffesion of a dangerous minde ,could be partuly truth ,but,He is ,obviosly-STILL Deeply IN LOVE with Teal,for God sake,HE CRYED,on mention of intimate moment's with her-so he is man in love,interwiever allso noticed that!?! Jared,i have a PUBLIC Question for YOU now,in Aug. 2024- Would you be again with her-Teal,if she wanted you back in her life? Or ,you would ,just hang up ,if/when ,she call you-hypoteticly-i think that you Jared,would run to her,i think that you are sooo in love with her,that you would do .....any.....for her,only one phone call away and,here you go-Correct me if I am wrong?!? (I don't think so)

[@cindys9491]

Side note: when New Age teachers talk about "raising your frequency/vibration," this always confuses me. I'm assuming they're referring to chakras, but the metaphor is odd. I'm a musician, and in music you don't want all your frequencies to be high (think of the squeak of a piccolo vs the low C on a cello). You need all of them or the orchestration is lopsided.

[@etaylor8028]

As someone who is very spiritual - what you are saying is dead on. It’s the point of view of “god”, that the beauty of human life is in the highs and the lows, just like a song. But from human to human, it’s a far more comfortable experience if we are choosing to always be in a “high frequency”. We are both the sculptor, and the sculpture.

[@LisaGayleDE]

Beautiful anology

[@davycrockett8886]

This does not explain the situation totally in my mind. Whatever that string or radio is tuned, it will vibrate in sympathy to that frequency. More spiritual frequncies are said to vibrate at a higher frequency, so if you want to connect with a spiritual frequency, you naturally need to raise your frequency. The thing is in this day and age everybody is pretty lobsided towards their lower frequencies, so they are totally disconnected from the spiritual realities. There is a danger for some spiritual people that they only focus on certain spiritual high frequencies and therefore become disconnected from physical reality. But one needs to realize also that there are higher octaves that bring you back to the same old chakras or notes, but in a higher more advanced way. There is talk about approaching the physical realm in a totally different manner, I believe this is possible.

[@alessandrarotunno8182]

Earth is dense matter with low frequency. Negative emotions have low frequency. Joy has a much higher frequency than sadness. New Age teaches ( so to speak) to align to higher frequencies which are the ones of the Spirit realms. The higher the frequency, the higher in the spirit realm it is. If you want to take a deep dive into this subject, check Penny Pierce " Frequency". I consider it a load of crap, but many people don't

[@cindys9491]

@@alessandrarotunno8182 what does it mean that an emotion has low frequency though, that it vibrates/cycles fewer times per second than other emotions? I'm assuming it's just metaphorical.

[@chrisoneillstitt]

Your channel is so valuable - for all viewers,not just Mormons. Thank you.

[@deborahherriage791]

To have a spiritual existence, one has to see the human condition as it is, even the ugly, the unhealthy, etc. Mormonism has its own brand of cultism. Most religions do.

[@aracelizuniga5451]

When I first got into my spiritual path I came across teal but my intuition told me something was off about her so I never consumed any of her content surprise surprise 4 years later everyone and their mom is doing podcasts and tv shows on her. I'm glad I never did shows just how easily you could get possibly sucked into something like this. Thank you for the work you do.

[@namastachi9030]

Same! My spirit did not align with her!

[@Lenergyiskey358]

@@namastachi9030 same

[@Mario_toma]

Where Is her mom talking? Is available on KZbin?

[@esmeraldasanchez7429]

Thank you for sharing. The man interviewed is very brave for sharing openly about the traumas that he went through. ❤️🙏🏻

[@Followmybliss777]

This guys: I had great parents. Also this guy: breaks down in tears over the religious abuse his parents put him through.

[@lisaruzicka8345]

I admire this young man's courage in sharing this. I wish him peace and joy. I'm an old woman, so I don't mean this in a creepy way, but I wish I could hug him and make him see that he is an awesome person.

[@Tiger-Lilly]

Thank you so much for talking about this!!! My husband was brainwashed and to a degree still is through JW religion about self touch and more. He does the same thing to me when I sleep that this guy spoke of in his marriage. I always believed it had a connection to this unhealthy belief on sexuality that he still embraces to this day. We have a horribly unhealthy sexual relationship because of this. Its just horrible.

[@simeonfalafel]

I want to hug this guy SO HARD

[@sodapopjones260]

Spiritualism is just religion without the rules

[@jessicabockoven8639]

It seems all religions I have been apart of have this type of toxic control, especially over kids. #1 reason I don’t subscribe to any religion and I worship God in my own way that isn’t determined by others trying to control how I do it. No one has the right to tell you how your relationship should be with God.

[@lidiagutierrez7983]

This video made me feel so angry against the church’s leaders 😤 the way they mess up young people is abhorrent

[@ndl881]

Don't know a lot about the Teal Swan Cult or the Mormon Cult... this video does sounds like a damage control thing though. I hope victims of both can find a way heal & move on.

[@aaronbcole]

I never let the church mess my mind up like this - wow

[@tashao5958]

I just have to say that if you are truly on the awakening path at some point your intuition kicks in to say listen to all things with discernment. I was opening myself up to all things that I have never known before. It was scary but exciting!! Take what you need from those who share their thoughts and keep it movin. I was raised Mormon and found Teal Swan on my path. She provided a lot of insight which put me on a quest for more knowledge. After leaving the church why would I go follow someone else and go down that same path of having someone else’s tell me how to live. I am great for the New Age and being raised Mormon. From what I have studied about church history we are not to far off from New Age thinking. I’m disappointed in this interview because it’s a lil judgmental about those who really seek to know the truth we don’t all end up hopeless, some of understand how powerful we are and love ourselves. It’s not easy but it’s worth it!

[@davincineptune]

This is his experience that he is sharing which may different from yours. This is his story and his perspective.

[@michaelhernon8163]

Yoyo..... Big up to my hommy John D thanks 😊 for all you do John

[@malenedietl3369]

Cults are created to take people away from God. They do a very good job too.

[@meghanstorie6094]

Did I miss something?? I didn’t hear anything about his time with teal swan and her “cult”...

[@jaredmdobson]

Hey Meghan there are 4 parts to the interview, this is part 1 🥰

[@foxmlder2379]

@@jaredmdobson thank you very much for this interview. I also struggle with obsessive thoughts and it is so comforting to hear someone speak so plainly and with such heart. I hope that the people in your life tell you enough that they are proud of you. Really inspiring stories and I hope you are doing well

[@rosemariepauly3725]

Thank you for stumbling with all of us through this natural processed which causes so much pain and suffering. That just shows us humans how we use our "status of being above nature". I wish you both well.

[@rosemariepauly3725]

Process

[@irinarogozhina3071]

I am wondering why the author of this video has not produced a similar analysis of Dr. Joe Dispenza's program and how unscientific it is. I am curious to hear the arguments.

[@darladawn1111]

I highly recommend reading Cameron Day's blog (article) titled Why I'm no Longer a Lightworker - Transcending Duality. It is quite thought-provoking. I will try to share a link to it in a separate comment, but have been unable to share links on KZbin lately.

[@darladawn1111]

Yep, tried to link it and comment was quickly removed. I guess you can't leave links in KZbin comments anymore. It's getting worse and worse with thos platform 😔

[@darladawn1111]

@@beablooming clearly you didn't bother to read the article I referenced before going on your rant, as you would have seen that the whole point of it is to reject the New Age movement and instead transcend duality so that the Demiurge (or Luciferians as you call them) can no longer keep us under their spell. "Why I am no Longer a Lightworker" is the title of the article, not a statement regarding myself. You just saw the word "lightworker" and got triggered, so obviously you are still under their spell and unknowingly giving them your energy like just about everyone else who hasn't transcended duality. New Agers and religious worshipers alike. Best of luck to you!

[@kyrah5683]

she's a wack-a-doodle from loony toon land - as bad as Andrew Tate

[@rolo8950]

Teal swan victimized this man so badly that he is so emotionally unhinged it's disturbing and sad. I can only hope he can get real help from a real therapist . Probably needs to get on meds too. The fact that teal did this to him knowing he had a young daughter is disgusting. Teal is a malignant narcissistic succubus parasite with a sociopathic lack of empathy. She is devoid of love and compassion, filled with an over sense of self. She thinks she is a god. She is smug and self righteous. I wish I could make her hurt like she has hurt her followers their falsely accused victims.

[@8polyglot]

Warrior.

[@ADHDBasketcase]

I love the tea 🍿🍿am I a bad person? 😂

[@nikstar1313]

Yes 😬 this is full on, really serious stuff.. sorry but you asked! Good luck in Trauma informed therapy xxx

[@Emily789]

No

[@cyninbend]

Rein carnation is real--but we have no clue of it's commonality, breadth of experience, etc--we have only anecdotal evidence: the boys who remembered being pilots in WW2--one Japanese, one American--who could describe their aircraft, its maintenance, mechanics, their experiences, deaths, and the American pilot could talk in detail about his buddies in the service, their biggest secrets that only their buddy knew. They were convinced the little boy was their friend. And there is the Irish mom of 8 who died in childbirth and was reincarnated in the US... And the English girl who knew all about temple life in Egypt and could pronounce ancient Egyptian--something no one could do any longer. And then all those Civil War reinactors who regressed under hypnosis, successfully identifying tag numbers, how they died, where... My nephew was constantly telling my mom how he was the grandfather before he was a kid. Like, "Respect me, I was a grandparent before I came here as a kid!" He was three. It unnerved her, but she began to believe him even tho she had been taught it was silly. I found references in the Bible tho they tried to scrub it clean of all references to reincarnation. But knowing some people were reincarnated does not tell us anything about how common it is or whether we all are reincarnated or how often. This cult leader uses anything and everything to manipulate people for profit. I can't be allowed to denigrate things that we know are true regardless of how uncomfortable this makes some people, their religious faith...

[@ehyeh365]

Good points! In my experience all this ”new age stuff” does have an element of truth to them, a bit like Jesus is def speaking from a place of awakened humanity in the way he is quoted in the new testament. In my experience too past lives def do exist in some way. I think the key element here is that we stay open and in awe and gratitude rather than identifying and claiming to KNOW based on our own perceptions of these truths/things. We simply do not know and noone owns this. Trouble is that the dynamics of narcissism/fakery always seems to hijack whatever is important to people, thus getting what that mechanism needs to feed on and live. So it happens in sects and cults and dysfunctional family systems and organizations and bullying dynamics and war and any madness going on. War. Corruption. Fraud. You name it. To me it is useful to see someone like Teal Swan (and many other “gurus”) as well as your everyday bully in that light. These are very strong yet very immature and unaware beings. Victims of their own (cluster b type) mechanism. It is us who need to be the adults and learn discernment, to see through, recognize and understand these dynamics. Then we can take steps to free ourselves, not be ensnared and to protect others. Thank you for this excellent and helpful testimony!!!

[@doctoremb]

What is meant by the "midnight stuff"?

[@adamjonkie5601]

24:38 john really goes in on this topic here lol

[@adamjonkie5601]

Ends around 35:39 😂😂😂

[@showcrazy2139]

Speaking of Mexico, I've been trying to save for over a year so my kids and I can go live near friends in Mexico. I cant afford the passports for my 3 kids and i...it's crazy how expensive they are!

[@doriendewitte4720]

Tail swan💖🙏☀️

[@kimberlyporter9555]

he's so refreshingly, radically candid about his behavior. this level of self-awareness should be the gold standard

[@gbrainy]

Plenty of people have a level of awareness and self awareness that prevents them from making ridiculous choices in the first place.

[@adventurer1913]

Ehhh

[@Pol-kw5gq]

He is very brave, I respect how much it probably to speak out about his narcissistic abuser. My mother is one and to all of you guys who been through it will know the abuse he has been through. I pray for you all and him ❤️

[@misstmemrs]

A lot of people have problems communicating and loving well. As he describes. He recognizes he was a “nightmare”. And he changed dramatically. This is a very common problem. All we have to do is try to have a robust argument on the internet and people abuse agressively. Extremely rigid rules. It is as if sociopaths run things. There is controversy about those labels. The sickest people are narcissism experts so it is difficult to know who is who. Jesus said he came to bring sinners to repentance. And not for the righteous.

[@adventurer1913]

Yeah that's why I watched teal video on Narcissism and Codependency. Really helped.

[@sallyostling]

My marriage was a lot like that. I got the silent treatment when my husband was upset, partly because it was punishment and partly because he didn't know how to express his feelings in a healthy way. It would last usually about a week and he'd explode. Such a hopeless place to be walking on eggshells waiting for them to break.

[@lc5666]

Me too. I wonder if my ex will ever have any awareness of his part in our relationship turning bad and ending. I don't need him to anymore but I hope that he does -- he gave me two amazing kids and I still believe there's something good in there and he could have a happier life. It was a hopeless thing indeed.

[@tianna1116]

I can relate. Though I can never really tell if it’s out of anger/ punishment or just a complete lack of ability to express emotions

[@sallyostling]

@@tianna1116 probably somewhere in between.

[@sallyostling]

@@lc5666 the explosion was always such awful things. I would sit there stunned. I would be frozen in place, trying to process what the hell just happened. I realized that you can't truly love someone (like he would "say" he did) and feel, think such awful things about them. Everyone gets mad, but emotional abuse is not having an argument.

[@tianna1116]

@@sallyostling you’re probably right, a little bit of both

[@tianna1116]

The way his face lit up into a smile when he mentioned his daughter was sweet

[@evesperspective7662]

When we know better, we do better.......it is part of growth. I have been to many denominations before realizing that what I'm looking for is within . Ask and you shall receive, seek and you shall find, knock and the doors will be opened. We are love and loved once we accept ourselves unconditionally. Forgive self and others. Then we will not judge anyone. Live life lovingly and fearlessly. Blessings

[@dodgelandesman]

Emotions are just like farts, the more you hold them in the more likely they are to explode. A very silly yet profound metaphor.

[@jaredmdobson]

Dodge Landesman glad you liked It 😂

[@karenwink7313]

What the heck? Sexual feelings are the norm. It’s not just Mormons who say our urges are shameful. Dang. It’s HUMAN..MOST religious folks create this s%#&t. Religion is the problem..Not the normal kids.

[@davycrockett8886]

The problem is not religions -the problem is extremists - either they say it is a great sin or that sex has no moral consequence. Sexual loss of control can hurt peoples lives. That said we are spiritual beings in a physical body - and our physical body may have desires - we should have compassion for those desires as they are part of us.

[@jameskennedy721]

Lots of people have some interest in such ideas . But as soon as youre following someone , and they hint to you that they are from another planet ... its time to go home .

[@sofie1065]

yeah.... run!!!😮

[@TheBrighterSpider]

What makes some people (like Teal) so insidious is that they mix legit truth with BS. Many of Teal’s videos are very helpful for people learning to self analyze their own motivations and behaviors, as well as those of others. And then she tells you suicide is just a reboot…. Then her behavior behind the scenes. Every few months a new husband. Her “friends” who live in the Costa Rica commune all seem like kicked puppies and her clearly the dominant one. And why leave the US like Jim Jones? Even before seeing this interview I had a bad feeling about her, but didn’t want to be judgmental. And now hearing her behavior…. Damn, I could make her a playlist of her own videos addressing her behavior, starting with the one where she points out that victims are the glorified innocents in our culture, so people identify with victimhood to collect sympathy and attention because a victim is never wrong or responsible for anything that goes wrong.

[@mormonstories]

Almost every cult does this.

[@hayleyholland529]

'why leave the US like Jim Jones'. ..?? 🤦‍♀️ .. really? Pretty sure alot of people leave the US.

[@TheBrighterSpider]

@@hayleyholland529 They sure do. Especially the criminals. She had plenty of legal problems in Utah.

[@MysteryMountain44]

💯 She is very much a hypocrite, and it seems to me probably a sociopath, because she seems to find normal human reactions utterly perplexing to the point that she gets angry for people having them. And my oh my does she play the victim, she litterally takes NO accountability for anything she does.

[@mranthony1886]

Wanted to have sex without instigating it... yep that's broken

[@courtneybrubaker9738]

Trying to not have sexual feelings is like trying not to breath. Never shame. Sex was Gods idea. We are meant to. Religious shaming seems to come from the men in charge freaked out about their own sexual feelings. Religious men seem to be addicted to control and sexual feelings/ longing and loneliness is something they feel afraid of- maybe. What do I know. Great interview.

[@SarahStephanieLandry]

This interview is so eye opening. Growing up in Lethbridge, AB, I had many Mormon friends, and heard from a lot of them that they had to repress themselves to fit in at home or at church.Thanks for being brave and breaking the silence and shame that so often surrounds these topics. I'm sure it's going to help destigmatize this kind of religious conditioning for others when they decide to break free from the imposed ideas of purity and belief. Also, thanks for clarifying that crystals and other new age therapy modalities can be a way to live a happy well adjusted life. (At around 47:00.) I escaped a cult in India, and left Catholicism (which I was born into) but find peace and happiness playing with things like crystal healing and doing other "new agey" things, like reading Tarot cards and studying about Astrology. I believe it's possible to be "spiritual but not religious" without becoming completely taken over by a New Age cult, yet find that a lot of the critical thinking, ex-cult experts advocate a completely atheistic stance. It's refreshing to hear that a middle ground is also okay.

[@PokyLilWolfPup]

Definitely agree! ❤️

[@north40lady98]

Be careful what you play with with those new age things. Lucifer is an angel of light and very deceptive

[@debfox]

I am SO glad you are still here with us! I lost the man I love more than anything and 2 friends to suicide. He followed Teal Swan too. I have been there. I know what it's like to feel like suicide is the ONLY answer. I spent many years even in that space. By sharing your story, you are helping SO many people! Much more than you will ever know. Sending you so much love! Your life matters! You are needed here, and you are always loved!

[@Anne_Onymous]

My condolences. Let's just say I can relate more than you'd think =( But I'm glad you're here as well! Have you ever watched the doc Reverend Death? I just rewatched it last night after hearing about what's been happening in Canada and was beyond nauseated. Anyhow; sending your words back to you. Take care!

[@HallowedForever]

I’m so sorry 😭

[@carbine090909]

OH my gosh, you must feel so isolated. I mean, how does THAT conversation go in the break room!? So glad you are here with people who can empathize and who have some experience with this kind of chaos and trauma. I'm so sorry for your loss, dear. Blessings.

[@tianna1116]

So refreshing to see a man who managed to change for the better, and to admit his mistakes. A lot of people don’t do that

[@adventurer1913]

Yeah it's a standard. We should definitely learn that.

[@michellebastiani6470]

Yeah right now in society imo it's especially hard being a straight white Christ believing man. He's a year younger than me. How much he has been taught that he himself is wrong and or bad is so sad. It's well known that the church he was raised in and quite a few others have this effect on young people.

[@tianna1116]

@@michellebastiani6470 yes and it’s super unfortunate. I really feel for our young men and boys

[@kathleenlourde1475]

Holy smoke, this is incredibly INTENSE! I mean, I laughed, I sobbed, I wanted to just .... what, just hug that poor dude. Jeez. I related to so much of what he's gone through, AND I want to thank him for talking about suicide the way he did. I have been there, too. I have been in many of the emotional places he's been, and I'm an athiest, never joined a true cult, the number of times I've been in a church probably doesn't exceed 100 (and I'm 58). This is not limited to mormonism or even religions. And I've been blamed and berated soooo many times by the most important people in my life for having attempted suicide during one very bad period of my life ... and I often try to explain WHY it's not selfish and attention-seeking etc etc (this is what my people tell me suicide is), but they don't believe me. They're so certain it's just bad behavior that I halfway agree and use it to beat myself up with more. It's nuts. But watch this guy talk about suicide, and there's no way you can reasonably call it selfishness and attention-seeking. He thought he was bad; he was trying to stop hurting people; he couldn't even breathe with the amount of emotional pain he was in 24/7; that was the only solution he could find. Dang it. That's what it feels like. His discussion ought to be part of an education campaign to help non-suicidal people understand that it's not about THEM, for gosh sake. To help them feel a little of what it really is to be suicidal. Maybe it would help build some empathy.

[@qwandary]

I always tell people suicide isn't selfish and the core thought most of us have is 'I'm bad and hurting people just by existing and I can't fix that besides not existing'. It's also in a strange way, linked to the survival drive we all have, making us want to find any way to live without unbearable pain, even if the only chance of 'living' that is by not living. A lot of people don't get that because they apply too much logic to instinctive drives and illogical mental illness (illness is barely logical on its own, let alone mental). To claim it's selfish ignores the nature of illness, mental illness specifically and the thoughts of us hurting others by existence and guilt for being here. It's not about escaping, it's often about saving others.

[@kathleenlourde1475]

@@qwandary Thank you, That is so healing of you to say.

[@bigfishbunny77]

Teal Swan appears to be manipulative and narcissistic to me. I think her group is cult-ish. But I don't understand why people are so upset about her suggestion to visualize death. Whats wrong with that?

[@lk6380]

Refreshing honesty. Thanks for sharing guy, I can definitely relate and I know others have too watching this.

[@user-iu3cy2tx3c]

did you watch Teal Swan's video about suicide? the title brings in people who are truly suicidal to tell them that there actually is no reset. in fact, committing suicide makes you come back with all the same problems! ftr I am by no means a "Tealer" just saying - watch the video before you make claims

[@jaredmdobson]

t according to you it sounds like I shared incorrect information of her teachings, duly noted. I wish you a wonderful life 🥰

[@user-iu3cy2tx3c]

Jared Michael Dobson thank you, you too :)

[@Villageidiot42]

It's too bad when people who are trying to help us understand complex things still make oversights.

[@user-iu3cy2tx3c]

@@jdsartre9520 I do not care about scientific evidence. Anything can be “proven scientifically” she talks about spirituality not science anyway.

[@frederickogang6833]

@@jdsartre9520 But it is not about evidence ... It is about changing the perspective of person that's things that by suicide they will have peace ... She put's them in perspective where there is no way to run from your pain by suicide because you will return with same problems and same pain , so she make them realize that the only way to have peace is not suicide but solving your problems 👍

[@elizaestabrook3656]

If you actually read everything about the origins of Mormonism, I find it mind blowing, just my opinion, why you would become a Mormon? How is that not a cult? That said, the Mormons I have met were very kind sweet people.

[@Futt.Buckerson]

That's basically the thought process everyone has regarding belief systems that are different from their own. When I was Catholic, I felt the same way about Protestants, Mormons, Muslims, etc. Now that I'm atheist, I feel the same way about all religions. When I compare my former beliefs to other religions and churches, they all seem cult-y and nonsense.

[@victoriazartz2956]

This channel has been everything for me when it comes to deconditioning and feeling related to. Grew up in the church from birth and it wasn't till collage 2010 that I started asking questions and doing research. More in the world I became the more I saw what the Mormon church did too my mind body and spirit

[@showcrazy2139]

Man that broke my heart when his voice cracked and he started crying because he's just being a normal human bring. Poor guy, damn

[@DavesArtRoom]

Any organized religion is a cult in one form or another on one level or another; Mormonism is no different. I do not believe in much of anything that Teal Swan says. You guys are not total authorities on these subjects either. If a person wants to be an individual, it has to be understood that any one of all or any groups can be suspect of coercion, again, on one level or another. That includes any organized religion. That includes Mormonism.

[@AS-010o0]

All religions are suppressing our sexuality 😢 I’m a woman and I also felt like a discussing sick pervert for having sexual thoughts. I’m catholic. My faith give me some spiritual help but when u get too involved it starts to be oppressing and u just feel like it’s impossible to be good enough

[@lightworker2956]

Indeed. Sorry that's happened to you. That's part of why I appreciate tantra. It's an ancient spiritual path that doesn't repress sexuality.

[@EnlightenedMaster_Saneiv]

Not True, at least in our case, our religion, Solus Dominus. We embrace sexuality and also promote sexuality within Spiritual BDSM

[@zhugeliang777]

@@EnlightenedMaster_Saneiv lol

[@jjones9822]

Nuclear, you alone are not God. Everything you see when you step outside wasn’t created by you but by something much bigger than you. Something we possibly couldn’t comprehend. In fact, your DNA is unique like computer code and is the sign of an intelligent creator. As for BDSM, you don’t have to be a religious person to know that most sex play and kink is immoral and degenerate in nature. People like to blame the church for sexual repression but in essence it’s just an excuse for their own lack of self control.

[@EnlightenedMaster_Saneiv]

@@jjones9822 You created a straw man, and included a "solution for a problem that didn't exist"...Where did you see anything that claims that I am God...Do you think that God takes a crap every morning and has a hip replacement ? Well, that describes me.

[@SamanthaShelley]

“It was a better upbringing than a traditional one” but he says he used to visualize beating himself with a baseball bat because of the church’s teachings on sexuality???

[@lisabuckner243]

HEY GENIUS, WE ALL HAVE A 3RD EYE- ITS CALLED THE PINEAL GLAND 🤦‍♀️

[@lisacox4609]

I’m so sorry if this is inappropriate but doesn’t this man bother you on just a intuition level?

[@kimberleymarkova3641]

Completely

[@imaginepithynamehere4257]

Host: talks non-stop until 17:49. "without any further ado ......" Lol. I'm interested to hear what this guy has to say. I began getting this chick popping up in my KZbin in the last year or so. They were just shorts, but i was like, "oohhh, pretty, confident, soothing voice.....wait ...wha? Crispy verdant word salad? Hmmmm. No thanks. Back to pimple popping videos and true crime/makeup/spooky stuff!" Now, I'm hearing some seriously disturbing things about the whole situation. I don't know enough to say anything about Mz Swan, but..... That Satanic Panic Barbara White lady's work is....not awesome and frankly, destructive af. If Swan is building her entire house on that foundation...... It's sad?

[@kcpassmore9064]

I am VERY into spirituality and LOA and the moment I saw Teal, she turned my stomach. Something very dark about her and the Godlike way she carries herself.

[@vintage_violet]

Same here!! She talked the talk but felt "off," had a "heavy" presence, lack of joy in her face, etc. Also when you're sensitive to the energy of others (I sure am) you just know what someone is like without knowing why. Though now I know why. ;)

[@taracrosby1538]

It was her voice for me. I knew instantly that she was not doing light work. She's masking the darkness with the idea of the light, but not allowing it to work. She's tricking these people into thinking that they are being touched by enlightenment and golden energy when really She's sucking the life out of them and discarding them when she can't get anymore out of them. The wolf in sheep's clothing, the Pied Piper. All I heard/saw was narcissistic, domineering,bi-polar-esque delusions of granduer, and sociopathic behaviors.

[@Postulatedstate]

Loa is demonic , fair warning. What you want will destroy you.

[@kcpassmore9064]

@@Postulatedstate I rebuke you in the name of Jesus 🥰

[@Anne_Onymous]

She basically has a red flag tattooed on her forehead so it blows my mind people fall for this BS. I guess it's because she tends to target victims that are desperate and damaged that she can get away with it so well.

[@ajordan1976]

Just an observation. I find it compelling that Teal is embraced by ex Mormon 's. I have to wonder if she lived in Florida or Minnesota if she would have risen to the status she holds right now. Her growing up in Utah, although not a member of that church/cult. She is very well versed in their doctrine/dribble. Gives her an advantage on manipulating people who support her. Whom are highly, mostly x mo's. I know KZbin was pivotal in her worldwide popularity. Something to ponder.

[@smallhouseinthemeadow6131]

I wonder if she wasn't so physically beautiful if she would have risen to her current status.

[@elspethawake4541]

Thank you so much to Jared for talking about your experiences, appreciate your honesty and vulnerability and strength.

[@greatmike3120]

You served in Chiapas? That's where I served. It's a great place. Also thanks for you story I had many similar experiences with repressed sexuality and self loathing.

[@jaredmdobson]

Great Mike good old Tuxtla Gutiérrez Mission 2002-2004. Mexicans are incredibly kind to me. Love those guys 🥰

[@LucindaSchumann]

I feel like there is something wrong with this interviewer the way he drags out ever last detail about the sexual things over and over and over again.... jeez man OBSESSION!!!!!!

[@Ashley__Rose]

I believe in New Age but I also take advice from a *licensed* mental health and physical health practitioner Crystals, oils, sage etc are only to *aid* in helping you, not completely replace It’s all about balance guys, just like Yin and Yang ☯️

[@mba321]

Finally, someone gets it!

[@msarilyn7677]

It sad how these people took advantage of the fact that memories can be repressed because of trauma, implanting false memories and getting the innocent into trouble because they love money.

[@always-so-tired]

You can hear the pain in his heart. What an important conversation and an incredibly brave guest ❤️❤️

[@plantgurugangsta7299]

I'm over half way but so far this interview has only displayed how traumatic mormanism or other religions can be on a vulnerable or impressionable young mind and the FEAR it can install to a very unhealthy or crippling level 🤔🥺

[@carolleeames6659]

The podcast is called Mormon stories. It will naturally play a huge role in explaining how he got trapped into another cult after leaving the Mormonism cult.setting the foundation for the rest of the story is imperative. It’s in 2 parts also.

[@plantgurugangsta7299]

@@carolleeames6659 ok so this channel considers mormanism a cult as well? Haha I thought it was a pro morman channel based off most the comments and the name of channel and how much more they condemn teal swan opposed to mormanism. I personally think people should be taught to question things and think for themselves becuz its sad when people get crippled by fear or never learn to question people or themselves for that matter. I also think people should learn about the textbook red flags of narisistic manipulation cuz it could seriously help people who are vulnerable since narisistic sociopathic and psycopathic people always prey on the vulnerable sadly😩knowledge truely is power!

[@provetome1199]

Wow, I listened to some of teal swans KZbin videos six years ago after leaving the church, I was also searching for spirituality. Thought she was just as crazy as the Mormon religion and others as well as some of the online new age exmo groups in idaho. Today I shut it all out happy to be alone. Thank you for being so vulnerable Jarred in sharing your story!

[@jaredmdobson]

Prove ToMe I'm glad you found you're own away through it all. I wish you a beautiful life! 🥰

[@like2btree]

Believing in a third eye or new age stuff isn't any more dangerous than believing in golden plates and ruling a planet after you die. It's not about any spiritual practice, it's about the fact she's dealing with suicidal people, and trying to help them without having a psych degree.

[@skyartisan8873]

That's the most dangerous part

[@jeanjacqueslundi3502]

Right because a psych degree automatically qualifies you to help suicidal people.

[@curiousme113]

@@jeanjacqueslundi3502 exactly.... And Soo credited professionals in that field all subscribe to most of the same practices... #1 being prescribing harmful and addictive meds. They throw pills at you that just makes you numb to life.

[@seattlegirl2077]

This poor gentleman (and he is a gentleman) has been through a lot in his life already and he's still young. Such a caring soul and I imagine a wonderful, intentional father. If you are reading this, I'm glad you are still in this life with us!

[@doniharding8003]

Reiki is not actually a New Age belief. Reiki dates back to 1920s to the teachings of Mikao Usui in Japan.

[@chrisoneillstitt]

Very brave young man. More people need to confront their demons.

[@ajordan1976]

Indeed. With an educated professional. Not a dangerous grifter megalomaniac!

[@mfalvey165]

It’s not the whole new age movement that is like this. Anything in extremes can be dangerous.

[@hnybee113]

Being a teenage Mormon sounds like HELL on Earth. Truly I'm so sorry for such sexual repression and shame on something so natural and wonderful. RELIGION SUCKS!!!

[@shannamaria395]

Jared listening to your story it resonates within me. I felt similar feelings and emotions around sex. Growing up catholic in ways the teachings of sex came off in a negative light, let's be honest. It is deeply imprinted on our souls. I felt and understand your struggles. I too have had these struggles growing up and something I too have worked through. Sex is healthy and beautiful experience, not shame and guilt. Our bodies are our temples, treat it as such. 😊 Thank you Jared for opening up sharing your vulnerability and raw honesty. I appreciate you sharing your story. More power to you. 🥰🙏💜

[@colorsflight6432]

My nephew who had become a Christian on his own came to live with me when he was 12. I am a Christian too. Anyway he was listening to a lot of christain stuff nothing crazy but a bunch of different stuff. He kinda opened up to me and implied that he was having a hard time and I finally figured out he was talking about masturbating and I looked at him and said I am sure God has bigger things to worry about then a 12 year old masturbating and just gave him good information on boundaries and the right ages and respect around sex in proper ways when he was older and he seemed like a load came of him and he told me he felt much better. I couldn't imagine making a child feel so shameful like this.

[@dianeclayton4936]

Teal Swan provides psychological and relational perspectives that are sound. I do not experience her as a cult leader. I experience her as I do other therapists I listen to. I was born and raised in Utah, in a Catholic family. I do experience Mormonism as far more cult like than Teal Swan. Why? I am shunned, persuaded, ostracized by a Teals tribe or videos. All of which I have endured in Salt Lake. Mormons have no qualms in telling me "if you don't like it here leave". Frankly, I did that but returned because my children and a grandchild live here. While, I'm not LDS, I do value family, not because I was brainwashed into that but because it feels right and healthy for me and my family.

[@nohandle00000]

John, why are u rushing him and his story? 90% of talking is a fast-speed story of this guy by John. I wanted to hear his Mormon story (normal style).

[@siiiriously3226]

you CANNOT be a good (enough) parent if you raise your child in such repressing, harmful, unscientific thought systems or allow your child to be around people who teach these kind of belief systems to a vulnerable child or teenager. a good (enough) parents protects their child from harm like this. although of course there is a broader system around the parents that deserves blame. if it takes a village to raise a child, it also takes a village to traumatize one. ^^

[@bretthackett4898]

Why is it wrong for a person to play out the tape- to not just stop their thoughts at suicide but to visualize how their mother will feel finding their body Why is it wrong to ask a suicidal mom to picture how her children will feel after she abandons them? Why someone’s parents would blame their child’s suicide on the fact that they were asked to basically ‘consider others’ is RIDICULOUS. My life was ruined by my mother’s selfish suicide. I wish for one second she could have visualized the pain and anguish her 13 yr old would feel at her abandonment by her mother. How by bringing kids into the world you are making a un verbal promise to try your hardest to be there for them and to protect them from pain- Not to ever be the cause of her babies pain. I wish with all my heart my mother could have just for one second The pain she was causing her children instead of her own codependency on men and her own self absorbed self Play out the whole tape, not just stop at the relapse at doing drugs, but to go ahead and play out what happens afterwards : getting arrested,dying,who they’re gonna hurt when they are found and I don’t see why telling a suicidal person to picture what will happen after they kill themselves as anything except a way to save Innocent lives such as my own from mental illness and addiction and immense terrible shame and guilt and feeling pain of a parent’s suicide I would never ever want my children to feel the pain of my suicide. I could never be so selfish. Suicide is so very very insane- it’s so self absorbed and so painful for the people left

[@livehealthyfinishstrong]

Sometimes leaving one cult leaves you very vulnerable to joining another, sometimes worse cult. The idea that there is “only one true church” or a “remnant for the last days”, is hard to shake. Having been indoctrinated to think all mainline denominations are false, looking for another group that exclusively has the “truth” is common.

[@loubylou1899]

I couldn't agree more, especially in this time period as so many groups and ideologies behave in a cult like way in areas far removed from religion.

[@LavenderDarcangelo]

I used to be a Tealer, spent a couple hundred bucks on her merchandise which I regret... I eventually started thinking that some of the things she says is sketchy. She thinks she's all that by announcing to the world that she has extrasensory abilities and can see another person's organs. I think that real medical intuitives don't feel the need to announce and explain themselves to the world and just stick to themselves instead. I don't believe that she actually cured someone with ms, which she said she did in one of her books. I can't believe I have been following someone who couldn't be any more horrible.

[@ajordan1976]

Maybe hate sh#t you bought will be worth something oneday. Oneday after she's exposed and possibly serving time wearing orange You never know ..?

[@LavenderDarcangelo]

Ha! She's worthless! LOL.

[@bottomofyoursoul]

I think nobody has the ability to look through organs, we are just humans

[@prorok21]

Terrible, Now Imagine yourself being in 1930s Germany.... For the context what's really bad.

[@LavenderDarcangelo]

I tend to laugh when I hear a lot about spiritual people who talk about how they've healed themselves from cancer!

[@Michelle7.17]

It’s October 31, 2023 and I discovered Teal Swan approximately 3 months ago. I NEVER thought that I could be duped by a “cult leader “. EVER. She seems so legit as a spiritual teacher. Thank you for these videos, it’s timely for me, because I’ve been trying to leave the New Age spiritualist teaching behind. I have one and only one text or teaching that I follow now, and that is Torah (Bible)

[@kimbadull6448]

Totally agree - listening to Bill Donahue who factually shows the Bible as filled with allegories based on Greek mythology. Has made it come alive and redirects me back to myself and exploring the power of our own minds. Go/od is within.

[@Farawaylander]

How were you “duped”?

[@BirdNerdJC]

Nailed it. The Mormon philosophy is about control and making you feel bad for being normal with no one to turn to or help. Glad u survived. Suicide is usually the result, lost my family members from this evil cult. Thanks for sharing. Keep helping others. Much love to you.

[@victoriagreen8728]

"Unscientific beliefs" !!! Man did you know EVERY scientific theory is based on at least one postulate, which is ASSUMED to be true. And please tell us how psychology and psychiatry are a science rather than pseudoscience.

[@christhompson5777]

34:00 when he says the bishop tells him he can chill, man said he though to himself this fool must be the devil or something 😂😂😂

[@jaredmdobson]

😂😂😂

[@donjoseph73]

Anyone could get duped . She’s very charismatic and very sensual. She is a very scary person very dangerous!!

[@lauriefrancisco1084]

So basically your title could have been leaving one cult for another. Though I will give kudos to anyone who wakes up sufficiently to get away from authoritarian groups whose main goal is to keep you from thinking for yourself. Any time total control is the objective - accomplished in part by telling you how special you are/will be once you’re one of them - that should be your clue to get the hell out! They truly don’t care about YOUR best interests, they care only about preserving/increasing their numbers!

[@cheltseaswensen8670]

Sending you love Jared! Your vulnerability is your strength! Thank you so much for sharing!

[@halitst1]

What a beautiful story and one of the most brave things I have ever seen anyone do! To admit to what he did and face up to himself is so powerful. I:’m very proud of him.

[@hdb80]

Less than 3 minutes into her documentary and my thought was, "She is dark. There is no light about her and I would never follow her." I don't understand how people trust her, she has such a bad feeling about her, even through a screen!

[@Dmimima]

Same! I got a very unsettling and dark feel from her while watching the doc. Almost soulless!

[@hdb80]

@@Dmimima 100%. Soulless is a good word for it. She's very evil feeling. Her work and intentions are not on a good path.

[@js7924]

Omg right?? Her eyes are direct windows to her hollow soul…I mean at one point she looked absolutely down right evil. That documentary completely backfired on her…and that’s a good thing.

[@fitkatak9150]

27:38...wait wut?

[@lisak5804]

Omg...i totally understand the emotional immaturity during his dating and marriage. That was me too! Not until I got to my late 30s did I start to understand.

[@prorok21]

The real problem that he's is her range. Hes cult dosent have a nearly big outreach so he and his community feals threatened.

[@susangray5931]

This was so so sad. That poor young man needs help now. He’s not close at all to recovery. Someone really did a number on him

[@Mario_toma]

The First One who Need therapy Is teal

[@Mynameisdarkxxo]

I’m two years late but I’m so grateful to come across this channel- it has opened my eyes to my own struggles due to also growing up in a similar situation, it took me years to accept I was in a cult, but videos like these makes me feel less alone - I underestimated the negative impact being raised in a strict religious household can have on your mental health

[@aubrielle3612]

I was too - raised in a very strict household/ religious setting. Christianity version. I’m in the midst of processing years old trauma and trauma of the present. Mental Heath is a struggle, I just felt the need to show up and say what was on my mind/ that I relate to your comment. We got this 💚

[@mielimedina3146]

His struggles remind me of someone close to me who I love. We are both autistic and ADHD, and we both have trouble with people telling us what to do (side note my grandpa has ADHD and he would sometimes quit jobs by literally punching the boss) and both have had lots of jobs that we quit suddenly for emotional reasons. This is a common struggle for ADHD folks. And we’re also more prone to suicidal depression due to a lifetime of shame dealing with the symptoms of our untreated ADHD that we didn’t know about. It’s been better for me lately because I’ve been diagnosed and doing research and getting counseling, and it helps with alleviating the shame, cuz now I know that my brain just works in its own unique way that looks different than most.

[@beemusicstudios]

I haven't watched the entire video. I am at 26:49. Jared, so happy you went to a psychologist. You are perfectly normal. I'm so sorry you had to grow up feeling you were "less than" simply because you are a normal human being. The universe loves you. Source loves you. Source is God. God loves you. You are a beautiful person......Now I will continue to listen to the rest of the video.......

[@LisaGayleDE]

I've been in 2 cults and decided I can't trust myself so I stick to atheism. I'm done and it feels great.

[@Mint-kj9kw]

You can try Jesus, the Creator of the Universe and lover of your soul?

[@LisaGayleDE]

@@Mint-kj9kw yeah already tried that, no evidence he existed but if it makes you happy keep believing.

[@Mario_toma]

The bible warn us to not follow these things like tarot, Crystal, witches ecc ecc cause Is all wicked stuff

[@olyokie]

From one cult to another….. These poor messed up folks…..