Most Buffed Characters of Super Smash Bros.

Here are the characters who were buffed a lot in between each Smash sequel (Smash 64 to Melee, Melee to Brawl, Brawl to Smash 4, Smash 4 to Ultimate). And in this video, we will show one character per period.
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[@NintendoTV64]

Honestly, Mario in Brawl can best be described as a Master of None. He has somewhat decent moves that are completely outclassed by nearly every other character in the game, making it hard for him to really stand out amongst the cast. Smash 4 turned him into an absolute beast.

[@SiMgUrL1721]

I thought that Mario was always supposed to be a Jack-of-all-trades/Master of None type character in all of the Smash games, NOT just only in "Brawl", LOL I know that you were mainly focusing on talking about Mario's viability in "Brawl" though.

[@Cybertasm8798]

I mained Mario in Brawl when I was like 6 or 7 because I didn't know he sucked. Thankfully, he is an amazing character in both Sm4sh and Ultimate.

[@SiMgUrL1721]

@@Cybertasm8798 So you don't use Mario in "Brawl" just because that he's a Low Tier character in that game? I wouldn't let Tier Lists decide of who you want to main if you're just only playing Smash Bros. casually. I personally play as both Luigi AND Mario across ALL Smash games casually. Even when they do happen to be Low Tier characters. Since I have a lot of character loyalty towards both of them. LOL

[@CipherKnighto]

@@SiMgUrL1721I agree with that statement. I did let tier lists influence my character picks though to some extent. Like when I copped Ultimate I used to main Marth but now I started playing Roy

[@SiMgUrL1721]

@@CipherKnighto It just seems that Tier Lists only truly matter if you're playing Smash at a High/Competitive level. I'll be honest. If I played Melee at a Competitive level, then I probably wouldn't even use Mario in Melee nearly as much as I would play as him in casual settings. Especially since Mario still has problems with KOing opponents from time to time. I'll just most likely only end up using Marth and Luigi instead. So, it's much more difficult with being loyal towards certain characters if you're playing Smash at a High level.

[@imbatrossthescrub2096]

13:55 This is unironically the first time I've ever heard someone say that Smash Ultimate Pac-Man has flaws.

[@ZekromAmaterasu]

Surprised Sonic wasn't mentioned. He was mid tier in Brawl, almost low tier then had an INSANE amount of buffs in Smash 4 that made him literally top 5 even despite nerfs in later patches

[@EpicBoxCreations]

Pac Man’s evolution is nuts 😭 I mained him back in sm4sh and EVERYONE bodied me 😂

[@leeeroyjenkins555]

I mained him on smash 3ds where I actually bodied many on for glory. Until Bayonetta showed up, and had to start using mewtwo and zss more

[@alexanderman31]

I main him fully

[@SoshiTheYoshi]

This is probably my most hyped video here, and it definitely delivers! Waka waka!

[@D20thOfHisName]

Waka waka indeed.

[@pvzmariosonica8fan]

😋👻👀

[@ethanuy2261]

Sheik, Sonic, and Captain Falcon from Brawl to Smash 4 could’ve made the video. All three were just below average to bad in Brawl and were much improved in Smash 4

[@Wither1224]

All three of those were largely bad in brawl due to the system of the game, like tripping and combos being largely non existent due to low hitstun

[@TopTierGamerMan]

I mean, sonic to smash ultimate. Have you SEEN that man?

[@Wither1224]

@@TopTierGamerMan sonic was high/top tier in sm4sh so nothing really changed other than sonix repping him better than other top sonics did

[@3clisp315]

@@TopTierGamerMan no, because he's just keeps running away

[@GoldDragon20]

Palu in 4 was meant to be the custom move showcase. if you think about it, it fits now that Custom moves are gone, i guess merging the counter and reflect was one way to show that custom moves could be decent because explosive flame was always better than reflect

[@21Handguns]

Custom moves were indeed decent,to the point a shit ton of them were broken af and banned,and was why those were banned almost immediately

[@willashley23]

This is the most likely answer - the devs spent most of their time giving her the most diverse and unique set of custom moves - but at the expense of her having any sort of identity or archetype in her base kit. I'm guessing they thought it was fine for her to have shit framedata and stats because "they'll just use lightweight"

[@chrispo7610]

Explosive flame was a neutralb custom

[@GoldDragon20]

@@chrispo7610 well it still works in the slot it’s in in ultimate

[@togarashi6437]

I forgot Luigi’s voice before Brawl was just Mario’s but higher-pitched and it’s the weirdest thing.

[@dawkinzboy77]

Charles Matinet was the best 😎

[@thepooroldsoul8179]

I would've included Roy for the transition from Smash 4 to Ultimate. I also would've included more than just Mario for the transition from Brawl to Smash 4.

[@illford6921]

Tbf Mario is one of the more insane ones.

[@BiG_JJ227]

And yet ganon stays the same every game. 😢

[@SiMgUrL1721]

@thepooroldsoul8179 It's probably because that Mario has received the most amount of buffs in transition from "Brawl" to "Smash 4". Remember that Mario basically went from being a Low/Bottom Tier character in "Brawl" to actually being a Top Tier character in "Smash 4".

[@wackywakko6694]

​@BiG_JJ227 since brawl yes but melee no hes a mid tier in melee compare to brawl & onwards

[@TopTierGamerMan]

Mario was probably the best buff ever, a beginner low tier turned into a combo machine is one of the few times Nintendo buffed the right character.

[@SiMgUrL1721]

I think that Mario should have never been ranked as a Low/Bottom tier character in Brawl in the first place because it's proof that goes to show that Mario never gets the respect that he deserves as Nintendo's mascot.

[@DaisyDuke8383]

Next: "Best Characters' Downfalls From Origins To End In Super Smash Bros" 64 Pikachu - 1 = Melee Pikachu - 9 Melee Fox - 1 = Brawl Fox - 14 Brawl Meta Knight - 1 = SM4SH Meta Knight - 16 SM4SH Bayonetta - 1 = Ultimate Bayonetta - 45

[@willashley23]

Damn has fox really always been good? I thought he was lower than 14 in smash 4, like maybe 20.

[@SiMgUrL1721]

Pikachu is still ranked as my number one favorite Pokémon character of all time. LOL

[@Mr.D0rAdE326]

Kirby is dog poopy in brawl but he is definitely buffed compared to his melee counterpart

[@dimasddfoxy1492]

Idk why peeps think melee icies is the most broken on when brawl icies were literally “get grabbed once it’s ggs” the character

[@TopTierGamerMan]

Honestly, that's ALL versions of ice climber. Melee was just more notable.

[@eeveewithcoffee9554]

Now you can do characters that stayed the same in between games. Like I guess Mario in 64 and Melee, Pikachu in Melee and Brawl, Zero Suit in Brawl and 4, Fox in 4 and Ult. (My guesses)

[@fezthedracky8468]

ZSS changed signifanctly between brawl and S4. New up special and Fsmash, significant reduction in distance of her whip attacks to make her more suited to close quarters combat. She may not look all too different, but the changes are definitely there and significant

[@eeveewithcoffee9554]

@@fezthedracky8468 I meant more with tier list placement, not overall design

[@wackywakko6694]

@eeveewithcoffee9554 Zss tier list placements are little more different because ZSS is a high tier in brawl but a top tier in Sm4sh while yes I get in their placement number but there not in same type of tier I can agree with fox and sorta with Mario but the others not so much

[@SiMgUrL1721]

However, the main difference is that Mario's overall KO power and recovery were nerfed pretty hard in Melee, but he was still an average Mid tier character back then. It's probably because that his overall speed and combo games were buffed in Melee instead back then.

[@Colossus_Tm]

This is definitely a banger bro! Good stuff.

[@aldwinrodriguez]

Great idea for a vid, loved it. Another idea could be to also have characters with the biggest glow-ups after being absent for multiple games like Pichu, Young Link, Wolf, and Snake

[@wackywakko6694]

One thing that kirby got in brawl as well his glorious brawl hammer is a great offstage kill move which is a shame they removed it 4 and Ultimate

[@J0J0Jetz]

love your vids, keep it up

[@Monhamd1000]

Buffs can be crazy super crazy!

[@windindi2834]

Really shocked you didn't talk about Smash 4 Mewtwo post patch. Between Melee and Smash 4, Mewtwo changed so much that he went from being a low tier to top 10 in a game notorious for being super busted, and Mewtwo stood the test of time with uncontested hype af tech and it sucks it was nerfed in Ultimate. Still, Mewtwo really went from 0 to hero REAL fast.

[@ZachHonest]

I've already talked about that in a previous video, "Underrated Characters Throughout Super Smash Bros." IMO Mewtwo pre-patches doesn't fall into the category of "in between" because he was buffed "during" the lifespan of the game.

[@TheRealZXXZ]

Incineroar never gotten a single nerf in Ultimate during it's development cycle

[@lifehurts1183]

I thought Bowser was buffed pretty good from Brawl to 4

[@carnage0685]

yeah but they gutted the everloving fuck out of his design

[@lifehurts1183]

@@carnage0685 True he did look badass in Brawl.

[@carnage0685]

@@lifehurts1183 I prefer his Melee design strangely enough- But I prefer quite literally anything over his Smash 4. Smash Ultimate kind of fixed it up, but he still looks a little weird.

[@lifehurts1183]

@@carnage0685 The melee design looked great but he was not a good character to play as in the later Smash Bros games I sometimes played as just Bowser.

[@carnage0685]

@@lifehurts1183 He is pretty shitty to play in Melee. Fun, but shitty. I wish he had some of Giga Bowser’s tools, especially that Up B. It’s probably the best Up B in the series, even more so than Meta Knight’s.

[@jman2050]

I think Samus should be mentioned in the same breath as Palu and Pac-Man going from 4 to Ultimate. Smash 4 Samus is an awful, awful character that just doesn’t work. (There are people who will tell you Samus was approaching mid tier with her various buffs from patches. Do not believe their lies). Ultimate Samus fixes everything that was bad about her in Smash 4, she only got better from patches, and her rise in the tier list is fairly comparable to what Palu and Pac-Man achieved. And you can argue her stocks are only getting higher as Ultimate’s metagame matures. Just a shame about that whole Olimar problem 😢

[@sewasify]

Surprised pichu didnt get an honorable mention. He was easily the most buffed between games (until he got nerfed again, but still much better than melee), though there was a big gap.

[@haitike]

The thing is he is comparing from one game to the next game. And Pichu was not in brawl roster so he can't compare melee Pichu with brawl Pichu.

[@VapodubzSSBM]

Finally a video with ice climbers. W

[@Heartache2491]

Pac-Man being high tier, you love to see it :3

[@2LoopMk]

PAC MAN GRAB Man that grab was GOD DOWN AWFUL

[@crazybosco3504]

I think Roy received more buffs than palu

[@KW-12]

Bowser un Melee and Brawl sucked & now he IS the BEST tank in the Game.

[@nascour5991]

Your videos are pretty good but I do have some issues when you talk about smash ultimate for one, the game is so subjective tier wise that characters that aren't low tiers, bottom tiers or top 8 could really go almost anywhere. Another thing palu is widely considered a top 8 character at least, so that smashwiki tier list is way off. This is why I think for smash ultimate you should look into top players videos and their opinions on how certain characters rank. Because unlike other smash games, smash ultimate characters for the most part are very subjective with how they're ranked.

[@jCisneros85]

Fast answer everyone except the spacies 😂

[@Dr.PaiPai]

1:28 Looks like Luigi's fireball travels less distane because Luigi was pushed back a bit by Mario's fireball. Looks like if you put Luigi back to where he was before Mario's fireball hit him, then Luigi's fire ball will hit Mario.

[@basil1913]

Mewtwo from melee to smash 4 should be included

[@SonicTheCutehog]

Palutena and Roy are other contenders for Ultimate

[@goGothitaLOL]

Smash 4 Captain Falcon, Smash 4 Mewtwo, Ultimate Samus, Ultimate Falco, Pokémon Trainer too (especially Ivysaur)

[@TheSir294]

W video ❤

[@Raylansaur10]

I think brawl ivysaur to ssbu is the most buffed charter in smash bros history

[@dragonstar9125]

3:58 sad M2k is still one of the worst things that came out of wobbling. That tertiary peach never stood a chance. Side note, isn't it wild how a lot of really bad Smash 4 characters eventually became as good as top 10 in the game? I remember my own old tier lists from 2019, with Pac-Man, Palutena, Pokemon Trainer*, and Wario in the top 10 when they were bottom 15 characters in Smash 4. Even now, REALLY bad Smash 4 characters like ROB and Roy taking more names than a good 90% of the cast. Wild how that worked, isn't it? *Yes I know Pokemon Trainer wasn't in Smash 4, but you gotta remember that Leo didn't really beat Tweek's PT at EVO as much as he beat Tweek's 'Zard/Ivysaur. Even now, PT might as well just be Ivy and Charizard, which still isn't 'Zard alone but you get the point.

[@Yubfan69420]

What about Pichu?

[@Mr.D0rAdE326]

Brawl mario didn't eat the super mushroom

[@SoshiTheYoshi]

Nor did smash 4 Pac-Man eat the power pellet

[@Kelecholochi]

G&W?

[@Sly88Frye]

Oh you want to talk about terrible grabs, Samus in the original Smash Bros puts Pac-Man in Smash Bros 4 to shame. Her grab was so slow to start and so slow to finish and the hitbox is only at the start so she is exposed after the grab reaches its peak and slowly comes back. The Samus grab from the original Smash Bros is the worst by far. My friends that I used to joke about how long it takes and exaggerate because it just really felt like it took 10 minutes for it to actually end

[@yobin3711]

No Ult Roy?

[@goGothitaLOL]

no Smash 4 Mewtwo or Ultimate Samus either

[@evanmello1]

Why are u talking about Brawl Mario?

[@SiMgUrL1721]

He's talking about characters that were immensely buffed in transition from one Smash game to the next. Mario just happens to be immensely buffed in transition from Brawl to Smash 4.

[@biggie_a6466]

How abt bowser

[@gjgrapesmifidaniel637]

BUFFER

[@ZachHonest]

Buffception

[@Datario64]

Never quite understood the whole Luigi being bad in Smash 64. I always thought he felt pretty good when I played as him personally. Used to play as him in the bars of Osaka Japan fighting all kinds of random people. If you know how to do the up B really good he is super scary because his Up B has the biggest hit box for the strong point compared to any Smash game he was in.

[@SiMgUrL1721]

Exactly. Luigi's Uppercut move was pretty broken in "Smash 64". LOL The reason why Luigi feels less as an actual Low Tier character is because that "Smash 64" was much more balanced as a competitive fighting game than "Melee" and "Brawl" were for sure.

[@theobserver4214]

He has bad recovery, bad approach, and not much speed. The best characters all have good mobility and approach in Smash 64, like Pikachu and Captain Falcon.

[@SiMgUrL1721]

@@theobserver4214 Still. Luigi doesn't feel that he's straight up garbage in Smash 64 much like how garbage Pichu, Kirby, and Bowser are in Melee (moveset wise not their Tier List placements). I thought that Luigi had a decent recovery in Smash 64, but I do agree that he was kind of slow in the speed department back then. Plus, I say that it's actually pretty rare for a Low Tier character to possess any type of broken moves. Since Luigi's Uppercut move was broken in the first Smash game for sure. LOL

[@blocks4857]

Slow movement in a slow game is really bad. That's why although Mario has a harder time killing, he is leagues better than Luigi

[@SiMgUrL1721]

Like I already said before, I find that it's pretty rare for a Low Tier character to possess any type of broken moves especially since almost none of the Low Tiers in Melee and Brawl have any type of broken moves. Mario in Brawl never even remotely had an advantage of possessing any type of broken moves like how Luigi did in Smash 64 back then. LOL So, who's the better Low Tier character between Luigi and Mario now. Huh?

[@BootyBunBandit]

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[@SwedenTheHedgehog]

I know I'm in the vast minority, but I'm so mind-numbingly bored of people talking about Melee and it's characters' strengths and weaknesses always bringing Wave-dashing to the firefront of the conversation. No one plays like that outside of people who compete in these games, and it has nothing to do with how good a character felt when played, at the time of release, for the vast majority of people who played the game.

[@irvingamer2235]

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[@OwangeZenGaming]

third comment and W video

[@GloryToComradeForster]

First Comment.

[@SoshiTheYoshi]

Do you want a super horn in case of blue shells?

[@GloryToComradeForster]

Nah, grab me a mushroom.

[@thepacmangamer7650]

12:21 THAT'S WHY PAC-MAN IS THE GOAT!!!!!!!