Most Downplayed Character in Mortal Kombat!! Respect Taven

[@solidskullz5736]

My man is a demigod and has squared off with some of so many characters and won. His brother even had a head start on the race and STILL won

[@darthmeticulous6901]

Yep. Daegon arrogantly claimed “This time, my victory is assured!” Only to get his ass whooped by Taven.

[@carldzoga1348]

And than everyone got washed, rinsed and hung out to dry by Shao Kahn....

[@darthmeticulous6901]

@@carldzoga1348 We’re never actually shown what happened to some characters in that final battle, Taven being one of them.

[@nelltheghost2166]

Yeah definitely beat alot of great MK fighters... I'm still mad that he beat my main boy Lord Fujin 😆

[@seasonembrace3624]

There’s no shame in Fujin losing to Taven who’s like a Hercules kind of dude for the MK series but an empowered Shinnok losing to the school girl rookie Cassie Cage pretty easily...now that is pretty humiliating & hard for me not to see as just bad writing no offense to Cassie she's alright in my book.

[@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158]

Taven defeated Kabal, Sektor, Rain, Sub Zero, Noob Saibot, Fujin, Kintaro, Drahmin, Reiko, Goro, Raiden, Scorpion, Daegon and Blaze - canonically, all of them were high tier characters in OG timeline. Yet some people say that eternal jobbers like Erron Black are much better than him. It's ridiculous. Only real gripe with Taven could be that he is naive, but guy literally woke up after thousands of years in a world completely different to his own. He even refused to believe that his brother turned evil, poor bastard.

[@twinodoom]

Fun Fact: Taven is the only kombatant in Amageddon that defeated Blaze in two different endings. He defeats Blaze both his arcade ending and in the main story ending.

[@bandigustin1038]

Wasn't Shao Kahn who did it canonically? Or he just stole the power?

[@pkmemes01]

@@bandigustin1038 I believe he stole it

[@twinodoom]

@@bandigustin1038 Canonically, Shao Kahn's arcade ending was the one that Dark Raiden used the Time Medallion in MK9 to prevent. Shao Kahn became unstoppable when he received Blaze's power instead of Taven, and would've proceeded to merge all Realms and go mad when he runs out of enemies.

[@carldzoga1348]

@@bandigustin1038 Kahn ultimately defeats Blaze.

[@PipeBombsdrop]

@@bandigustin1038 nope taven did, then everyone also recieved blaze's power , shao kahn was taken away by Onaga so he couldn't have killed blaze, they simply rectonned it. going foward because they gave up on taven, and gave to Shao kahn.

[@ChamChamRealSmooth]

I really like how at the end of the Konquest mode, he refuses to kill his evil brother and just wants everything to be over. That's some solid character building there.

[@Kira22558]

Yeah.

[@niyol8982]

I always loved Taven, I don't know what would make people dislike him

[@Kira22558]

Because people hate 3D era

[@usernameluis305]

A bit of a Mary Sue when you think about it, a Mary Sue with a dragon tattoo on his face

[@seasonembrace3624]

I think the word your looking for is a Gary Stu which is the male version of that word. But in Taven’s defense he’s more experienced than Cassie is and yet she can take down an empowered Shinnok for whatever reason by her self despite being a rookie we’re as he’s probably got years of training under his belt similar to Lui Kang.

[@metalslugfan708]

He's a demigod for the Elder Gods' sakes, of course he's that powerful. But in his defense, he trains throughout the campaign in the obelisks so of course he isn't channeling some ass-pull like what Mary "Rey" Sue did in the Disney Trilogy.

[@HaloNoble1]

Gotta respect Taven for surviving the story when he woke up in time to see everything escalating to armageddon.

[@alexferrana3979]

@@seasonembrace3624 Yeah, I saw that - people love to judge instead of doing their own research

[@darthmeticulous6901]

@UCgNWE2rYkqQgh37rd8WD2XQ You mean Shujinko. And yeah, he’s hated on for equally stupid reasons.

[@seasonembrace3624]

It’s worse when KZbinrs or websites advertise them as fully disposable rather then tell folks useful information or give them a fair chance there isn't even any constructed critism for how to update them ideas. I don’t mean all of them but fans especially newer NRS fans for this series don't get very useful facts on these characters so they go based on biased opinions and declare them as irredeemable failures that have nothing to work with and jump to conclusions. when stuff like this proves there's worth in them bringing back these 3D characters so what if there under developed. why's that a valid reason not to include them in future MK entries and simply update them, Because most of the popular NRS reps also fall under that criteria so are they also irredeemable as well simply for being underdeveloped if not then isn't that hypocritical to give them a free pass but not the 2000 era 3D reps?.

[@sheriefwoodard8686]

@@darthmeticulous6901I feel people just hate on Taven because he’s not from a popular game

[@darthmeticulous6901]

@@sheriefwoodard8686 Probably, and it’s all bullshit.

[@darthmeticulous6901]

Taven was underrated. His quips (“My death? Or Yours?” “Oh, now I’m free to go? After I’ve already defeated your entire clan!” “Get away from him, lizard!” to quote a few), his power, his story, his personality (snarky and confident), it all made him awesome. Not bland or boring, just cool.

[@carldzoga1348]

'You mean to defeat Shao Kahn by YOURSELF"? "WHOLE Realms have tried"!

[@darthmeticulous6901]

@@carldzoga1348 “Bah, foolish old man!”

[@jrdb04]

@@carldzoga1348”hahahah alone this I must see”

[@BeyondContact]

"Enjoying the view?"

[@realamericannegro977]

My favorite hero in MK, the only thing "bland" about him was his default costume. His 2nd costume is good.

[@Spotty2Wily]

Highly under appreciated character. Barely anyone talks about Taven which is kind of a shame cause he does have quite a good story and konquest mode was fun.

[@jamichealruiz]

Facts💯Taven Deserves Better🔥

[@lwandomadikizela2213]

The original winner of Armageddon. He done a lot more like ending the Tenkunin, helped Sub Zero to defeat Noob, bested Dark Raiden, brought down the Red Dragon, avenged his parents by defeating his brother Daegon and won and prevented Armageddon from happening. Taven deserves a lot of respect since he's one of the strongest character in Mortal Kombat and have multiple feats and accomplishments.

[@iamleoooo]

Always love his interaction with Sub Zero. Him and Shujinko were probably the 'only' friends he made through the entire story

[@HomophobicXenu]

he attempted to prevent armageddon but it sadly failed, as when he beat blaze, the power he was supposed to get (either stripping powers from all kombatants or killing them all) split into all of the fighters and made them all even more powerful. of course, in mk9 it looks like this still ended up happening but taven was nowhere to be seen. i guess ed boon really doesnt like taven.

[@metalslugfan708]

It's because he's AAA, not indie. Of course he'd put a plot hole in every story line of MK ever.

[@Izhen_UwU]

All those feats and accomplishments in JUST ONE GAME. After Armageddon I thought Taven would be the main character of Mortal Kombat, it's just FRUSTRATING how they made this epic character that is a demigod just to be tossed away to never be seen again.

[@drorbital3034]

I love the direction of MK Deception and Armageddon story lines these two games got me back into MK, because of these two characters. Respects to Taven and Shujinko this kept the game and lore fresh!

[@shyeazykoopa414]

No cap 🧢 fam

[@zae_ybn8219]

I just wish they would bring it back, haven’t bought a game from them ever since

[@nosferatu_man__1619]

People out ere tryin to bury Taven and treat him like talent announcement… the man is a main eventer

[@Maxrepfitgm]

*Talent enhancer

[@jerrym1218]

Taven is a beast, always was. He is a character with the most legit wins against creditable foes, and definitely might be one of the strongest characters in the Mortal Kombat lore.

[@lordanti5836]

Yeah it's crazy how Taven gets treated. A literal demigod of the series who gets treated like fodder by the fans. Since the timeline been reset again, I hope they touch back on him. Even if they bring him as dlc.

[@NotRott009]

Rain Fans

[@nabilahmed579]

If rain can’t get even decent treatment in story, taven would probs get fucked by NRS writers

[@SolidSnake240]

I mean that says more about the writing for him than fans.

[@realamericannegro977]

As soon as I played a couple of stages with him, I was like "he would destroy Shao Khan". He can probably defeat a full powered Onaga.

[@seamuswbiggerarmalite3379]

they should bring him back as playable in the kombat pack 2 with daegon as kameo

[@ngisohndimbe8638]

He too deserves a lot of respect for the fact that he has done a lot in mk Armageddon. I don't know why many people hate both Taven and Shujinko

[@Scrubermensch]

HELL YEAH, my man! Respect the Demigod who lost all and still saved everything

[@gloverdragon6854]

The lesser gods are also known as protector gods if they have a protection role status. So far all the ones we know are protector gods. Kahn used to be a protector god, advising onaga

[@PhilDVG]

Yo, I just realized that @7:58 Taven was about to repeat Raiden's line "We must not stand idly by. We must stop this Deadly Alliance" which that entire group really was a deadly alliance. That writing. 😩

[@richardchase2960]

Your one of the only MK KZbinr I feel that is passionate about MK and the Lore Material

[@Vitor20XX]

Taven and Shujinko, both characters that had a importance to Mortal Kombat plot and are underrated.

[@TevyaSmolka]

I liked taven and I really wanted to see his story pick up after Armageddon but we never got that story unfortunately.

[@bandigustin1038]

Only a few cameos on Kenshi and Takeda endings

[@TevyaSmolka]

@@bandigustin1038 yeah that's true man which actually sucks because I really wanted to see him make a comeback similar to frost who actually appeared in deadly alliance first.

[@SchadoVA]

taven was a real one. i wanted him to comeback

[@showcase0525]

"See what happens when you don't know your lore?" Feels like a catch phase.

[@karlsylvain]

LOL that line killed me!!Fools just don't know their lore!!

[@diaperfang5293]

Taven is seriously underatted, he was funny and tough, but now over the top, fairly chill too.

[@randomperson9799]

Personally I like Taven a fair bit I just wish he had more flare in terms of personality, design and abilities. His lore is great and he doesn't belong in the same tier as Kobra or Kira with that said. Give him an ability or a weapon specialized for him, give him a minor makeover and put an emphasis on what its like for Taven to become the next guardian of Edenia. That would take him from a pretty good character to a fantastic one.

[@deadbeatnetwork9792]

Hmm, personally I could see an updated Taven having his dragon motif, blessed armor and his drakesword emphasized a bit more. For one, give him a full set of armor other than just the torso piece that has a golden dragon aesthetic to it, with some adornments that have symbols pertaining to either Orin or even one of Delia’s, for she was the one who made the arm, a helmet that could resemble Orin (inspired by Guts’s own helmet looking wolf-like), and perhaps even a cape just because it could look cool on him, basically having him look like a knight since there’s not really many armored characters in MK besides Hotaru, who’s moreso a mixture of a knight and a samurai. As for his sword, I don’t think you’d need to change much, but perhaps it could be made a bit bigger, at least around the same size as a claymore sword to emphasize this man’s godly strength. As for personality, we can keep what he has for now, being snarky and confident yet unknowing and even a bit impatient. To add a bit more flair to that however, perhaps that confidence could be heightened a bit to where it goes along the lines of arrogance, having him be a fearless warrior who will gladly show you his strength, being a bit showboaty, which can be partly from his godly lineage (which where Rain probably gets his attitude from). I think this could be a good way to flair up his personality because not only is it more defined, but it can also be a useful tool to show how Taven has changed around the end, beginning as a confident warrior to now being a broken man from all that has happened to him and his close ones. As for abilities, although he has fire abilities, something that’s not really that unique in the MK universe, I think we could utilize his fire magic to have it be more of a tool to enhance himself and his attacks. He has that entrance animation where he comes out of a portal and does a landing punch to the ground. That could be one of his moves, but he could have an enhanced version where it crates a strong explosion of flames. Another example for some abilities is that he could have an ability similar to that fireball move he has, but instead its a frontal projectile made from a flaming slash of the drakesword, something like Cloud’s neutral special from Super Smash Bros. The regular one could stagger the opponents and burn them, but the enhanced version (which could have a visual detail of the sword heating up and turning hot orange) could have him create a faster and more powerful projectile that explodes on impact and launches the opponent back. Those are my two cents on how Taven could be updated to have a bit more to him, or at least what I can come up with, but I’m always interested to see what others can come up with.

[@seamuswbiggerarmalite3379]

​@@deadbeatnetwork9792nobody remembers that taven can stop time????

[@deadbeatnetwork9792]

@@seamuswbiggerarmalite3379 Wait he can do that? Huh, I didn’t know that. Now that you mentioned it, the cast of MK11 could have probably called him up since he could have been useful if he’s able to do that.

[@seamuswbiggerarmalite3379]

@@deadbeatnetwork9792 hes the frist one in the saga with that power he can use it in free roam konquest

[@deadbeatnetwork9792]

@@seamuswbiggerarmalite3379 Huh I see then. That’s pretty interesting!

[@Akshay-Patil]

Wish they could do something about Taven again in the upcoming games

[@nicknight1728]

"You see what happens when you don't know your lore" pretty much summed up 68% MK fans.

[@basedgamer6624]

I was just watching a video about Taven the other day and thought damn it would be nice to bring him back into the Modern MK. Thank you for putting respect on his name!

[@carldzoga1348]

I would LOVE to see Taven, Daegon, Shujinko and Havik return in the next MK. There's so much they could do with their stories. I'd actually like to see Taven team up with Kenshi and Takeda to hunt down the Red Dragon Klan!

[@darthmeticulous6901]

Taven to Daegon “When this is over, I am going to finish you!”

[@carldzoga1348]

@@darthmeticulous6901 Hell Yea!

[@LeaderOfTheLostSouls]

@@carldzoga1348Maybe in the next game they will get story but we have Shujinko as a Kameo fighter it’s better than nothing.

[@mee091000]

I will never forgot how in Don Critic's video. He had Taven ranked at 91 out of 99. While having Ferra Tor ranked at 81.

[@brianingram415]

One of my top 3 favorite (if not my favorite) MK characters of all time! Taven 🔥💪👊👑

[@NotRott009]

5:14 Putting over Shujinko again, in TAVEN'S video. Let's go, Shujinko.

[@ChamChamRealSmooth]

Would've been awesome to actually see Shujinko team up with Taven and fight Raiden, Shao Kahn, Onaga and the Deadly Alliance together. I hope the 3D games get a good remake one day.

[@richfranklin9270]

Taven is in my top 5 favourite mk characters, dude was low key funny asf too 🤣🤣🤣

[@darthmeticulous6901]

[To Reiko] “As rule, I don’t ally myself with egotistical madmen!” [To Shujinko] “You intend to defeat Shao Kahn? Whole realms have tried to overthrow him! This I must see!” [After Shujinko runs off] “Bah, foolish old man!” [To Wu Lae] “Oh, I’m free to go? After I’ve already defeated your entire clan? How generous of you!” [To Blaze] “The quest has destroyed my entire family! Explain to me why I should care!” Goro: I have been ordered to let no one pass, under penalty of death. Taven: My death? Or yours?” Also, his encounter with Mileena was hilarious, especially the “Not bad. Care to dance?” line and him wondering “Who was that strange creature?”

[@jenpachi2408]

Taven lore and strength wise is a badass my main gripe with taven is his design.

[@arodtheanxious780]

One of Taven's best feats is his smart alec responses.

[@darthmeticulous6901]

1) Goro: I have been ordered to let no one pass, under penalty of death! Taven: My death? Or yours? 2) Daegon: This time, my victory is assured! Taven: The only thing that is assured is that you will pay for killing mother and father! 3) Wu Lae: Wait! You are free to go. Taven: Oh, I’m free to go? After I’ve already defeated your entire clan!” 4) Reiko: We could use a warrior like you. Taven: As a rule, I don’t ally myself with egotistical madmen! (referring to Shao Kahn) 5) [To Blaze] The quest has torn my family apart. Explain to me why I should care!

[@darthmeticulous6901]

6) [To Rain] You know so much about me, yet I know very little of you, “friend.” 7) Noob Saibot: You shall join me, or you shall die! Taven: We shall see! 8) Raiden: Shao Kahn has agreed to spare Earthrealm when he’s won. Taven: “When he’s won?” Why would that lunatic spare Earthrealm? 9) [To Sonya] I am the son of Argus! You hold NO authority over me! 10) [Defeats Sheeva, then Kintaro appears] Kintaro: You fight for Shinnok, then you will DIE for Shinnok! Taven: Another one?

[@arodtheanxious780]

@@darthmeticulous6901 9) (To Tengu leader) Oh, I am free to go? After I've defeated your entire clan? How generous of you.

[@darthmeticulous6901]

@@arodtheanxious780 Wu Lae was the Tengu Leader. See 4). Thanks for the extra line, it slipped my mind.

[@corpsedesecrator2612]

My favorite Taven: Enjoying the view? *Goro dam near trips 😂😂 And Taven: My death or yours? Putting some bars on Goro majority of the cast fears Goro’s name Taven just casually walks up and startles him. Also Reiko: Well done those were Elite Gurards. Taven: If you say so. My favorite has to be though Sonya dialogue Taven: I know nothing of this “Sektor”(after unknowingly beating the bricks out of him in the Tekunin ship🤣🤣) Then epik line Taven: I’m the Son of Argus you have NO AUTHORITY OVER ME!!!

[@keenestfox6376]

Honestly a good character and arguably he could beat Kronika being a demigod who can stop time. Definitely prefer this story direction.

[@darkemperortheobscureone694]

Taven would clown Kronika that's for sure

[@Kira22558]

​@@darkemperortheobscureone694 exactly

[@seamuswbiggerarmalite3379]

he can stop time too LOL taven is OP asf maybe thats hy they dont bring him back as a "main fighter" in mk1 hope he comes back as playable in some kombat pack

[@WeedShaggy]

Even though there has been mistreatment on these characters, Taven and Shujinko wash most of the cast even in the new timeline.

[@corpsedesecrator2612]

Amen to that brother!!!

[@onyx0fire]

Would like to hear your favorite MK games ranked by Story, Mechanics, and fun factor. My guess for your favorite is either MK9 or Deception.

[@mhstylesmugen]

I always found calling Taven and Shujinko bad characters an absurd thing, they both did great adventures across the realms, defeated some of the best kombatants in the entire franchise and their existence was important to the plot and people still call them bad and generic, are you sure you played Mortal Kombat Deception and Armageddon before?

[@darthmeticulous6901]

I did, and you are correct about that. Daegon was also important as he founded the Red Dragon Clan, which was so crucial in the two previous games. In my mind, I can’t call any of them bad, Taven and Daegon make my top 30 characters and Shujinko is in my top 10 characters.

[@SolidSnake240]

Being important to the plot doesn't mean a character is good by default. That's some elementary level logic. I played the hell out of those games and I can't recall a single interesting thing about Taven or Shujinko

[@kzakulenga5138]

Remember when Raiden said every time him and Liu Kang fought Liu Liu dies in every timeline Well Taven beat Dark Raiden's ass with zero problem That alone tells you alot about the power gap between him and Liu And just in case someone says "But Liu is a god that can control time now" Taven was stopping time LONG before Kronika was even a thing It would not matter Firegod or not Liu would get bodied along with Dark Raiden I hope he returns in MK12

[@darthmeticulous6901]

Oh man, the Time Stop in MKA’s Konquest… so abusive and yet fun.

[@kzakulenga5138]

@@darthmeticulous6901 more OP than Geras Taven froze the whole battle field 😅🤣🤣 Time freeze + Teleport + grab = head rip fatality

[@seamuswbiggerarmalite3379]

yeah i noticed that minutes ago taven is op asf thats why hes not a main fighter in mk11 and mk12(1) hope he comes back as playable in a kombat pack with daegon as kameo

[@simpleclonetrooper2740]

I've always loved Taven I don't know why some people hate him.

[@jamichealruiz]

Maybe Because People Don’t Have Too Like The Same Thing But Yeah Taven Deserves Better💯🔥

[@simpleclonetrooper2740]

@@jamichealruiz Of course people dont have to like the same thing but it doesnt hurt to wonder why people disliked him

[@jamichealruiz]

@@simpleclonetrooper2740 Idk🤷🏽‍♂️Maybe They Just Don’t Like Him But As I Said He Deserves Better

[@lolhowmad]

FIghters Den, you're awesome. I love watching your videos over some of these other lore channels. You deserve way more subs. Keep up the good work, I'll continue supporting.

[@karlsylvain]

i love his street lingo!

[@coldblizzard5880]

Me and my brother always knew Taven and Shujinko were awesome. We grew up on PS2 MK games so we knew bro 🫡

[@jamichealruiz]

Same Here🔥

[@quentinflacko24]

Taven had so much potential

[@scorpionqueen11]

I don't know my canon vs non-canon MK lore like that, so I really appreciate your videos. Would love to know if NRS has plans to bring Taven, Shujinko, and other bad asses back into story mode. I'd be curious to see if they'd portray the power balance correctly if Taven and Raiden go one-on-one again in MK 12. Lol.

[@TevyaSmolka]

I always maintained taven is such a underrated character in my opinion.

[@enenra6417]

Taven's probably one of the only mk characters I actually feel bad for

[@avataruzumaki7900]

Imagine there’s a new MK live action movie in 2023 that’s in the works and it’s about Taven’s Story in Armageddon (with a good writer and a passionate director).

[@Wright805]

That would be great

[@corpsedesecrator2612]

One can only dream I would LOVE to see a story of Taven but with the current writers we’d get a abhorrent disgrace they can’t even give Legacy kharacters right let alone underrated or under appreciated like Taven, Shujinko, Daegon, Onaga.

[@ZackeriseZeplane]

Much respect to this video, He was my first mortal kombat player I played as when I was first introduced to mortal kombat, and he’s always been one of my favorites. I always thought it was my bias with the guy, but it’s a fair point that all of his accomplishments have been retconned away in the newer games. Also History behind a warrior has a good video about Taven the demigod

[@gnarlybgaming]

I liked his quest with Shinnock where he thinks he’s an ally.

[@shemarlosscott2656]

Taven Deserves Respect

[@j.r.cardona]

Just a question for clarification -- isn't the defeat of Raiden by Taven null since, at the very least, Taven doesn't end up preventing Armageddon? Mind you, Raiden fails miserably at this too, but it's hard to determine what is canonically relevant in Konquest or not. Either Raiden gets back up (like a champ) and attempts to thwart Shao Kahn because he is a pathological liar, or something in the interim between his defeat and the actual end of the timeline occurs that we can't decipher.

[@pretzelpop78]

In the same game we see Raiden fighting for the good side ate the pyramid so yes he failed to stop Taven ending his deal with Shao Khan

[@InvestedGman]

I really hope taven returns the same as shujinko because he’s underrated and the last time we saw him was in Mk Armageddon but we never see him in the new games with the new timeline.

[@ChamChamRealSmooth]

The only times we saw him were in endings where he got clapped. The disrespect...

[@tomtommerson6320]

Dude is awoken to find out the day he's been training his life for. Yeah it would make sense he's focused on his life's purpose. That doesn't make him boring

[@seven719]

The reason why people hate Taven is because he is not another ninja. You got a bunch of 12 year olds drooling over Rain, another demi god who has done vastly less then Taven.

[@IzBeast617]

He's a demigod that beat the whole main cast pretty much put some respect on my homie 😤 💯

[@DanialTarki]

I already knew Taven was a badass, as he fought and defeated both of his superpowered brothers and seemingly amicable Blaze when he realized he had to beat the latter. He also helped Sub-Zero and beat up Goro. BTW, Kira also fought for King Kano and wounded Kenshi before she went out brutally.

[@slendertentacle]

Taven is one of the best characters in the OG games. He is better than a majority of Midway era characters, honestly. Also one of the most powerful characters in the entire series: 1) clapped Goro, MK CHAMPION 2) defeated Noob Saibot, who previously defeated Goro 3) won against Raiden and Fujin, both gods 4) fought non-stop small armies and other fighters, from regular humans, like Kabal, to demigods, like Daegon 5) defeated everyone who tried to stop him from killing Blaze on a Pyramide of Argus 6) killed Blaze Unlike NRS characters, his power level is consistent. He would've wiped the floor with NRS Liu Kang and Cassie no problem People who hate him probably think that the absolute dumbass that is NRS Shao Kahn is a good character, lol

[@SinCity2100]

For those who say that his character sucks, He will be always better than 95% of the New MK Characters for sure..😂😂😂, Very Underrated for sure..

[@josiahharris3151]

I put him up with takeda Takahashi

[@donaldhysa4836]

I swear to the Elder Gods your narration is A tier

[@Slit518]

A Demigod is only a partial god, a less important god. Taven is a half-god since his father Argus was a god and his mother Delia was just a Sorceress. So, Fujin being a full-god in comparison makes him higher on the hierarchy of gods. To add, I liked Taven and thought he was fine. It was an interesting enough story.

[@hurricane7727]

Yes. Taven is Like Kratos before He Became a Full God post God of War 1 and After Beginning of God of War 2 and Until End of Gow 2 after he retouched the Blade of Olympus to Regain his God of War Powers.

[@treiwilson9445]

Taven went through all of that and still failed. How is Rain more powerful than him and his brother? What does Rain's Mom and Dad issues have to do with his stepbrothers?

[@darkemperortheobscureone694]

Originally Taven succeeded until NRS retconned it to Shao Kahn. Rain's ending in MK11 is non canon and in Armageddon Taven defeated him 1v1 so Rain is weaker than Taven

[@supergonk6485]

Saying Taven and shujinko do nothing is like saying Bi-Han has done nothing

[@atomcat_v6664]

Back when block busters were still open I managed to snag a copy of Armageddon for ps2. Despite not able to play game audio I played through this entire game and was completely enthralled with Taven’s story. It was fun. QUIET, but fun!

[@kizaruthegreat]

Fightersden are you gonna upload some of your tekken matches again in the future like the tournaments or was it king of the hill and stuff you did. Loved watching them in the past. Can't seem to find them anymore?

[@moxxiefan2.055]

MK5: Deadly Alliance, MK6: Deception & MK7: Armageddon is by far the best MK games from the PS2 era. Love the Konquest mode in Deception & Armageddon 💖, Plus the Motor Kombat, Kreate a Fatality & Kreate a Fighter in Armageddon, Great respect video for Taven & Shiujinko from MK.

[@TJunioR97]

Your games are off by 1

[@darthmeticulous6901]

Deadly Alliance was MK5, Deception was MK6, and Armageddon was MK7. MK8 was actually Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe. I agree with everything else, additionally I love MKD’s Chess Kombat. Creative and fun, would’ve been sweet if it had been its own side game released at the same time as Armageddon.

[@moxxiefan2.055]

​@@darthmeticulous6901 Thank's for the input TJunior & Darth Meticulous. MK5 is Deadly Alliance, MK6 is Deception, MK7 is Armageddon, & MK8 is MK vs DC. Again, Thank you, Both of you two have a great day.

[@thebluewind5733]

Taven is a unique character in the MK franchise though he isn't the main character of the face of the series he does deserve respect.

[@jamichealruiz]

Facts💯🔥

[@miguelangelavila78]

Love this video. Now im going to go spread the 🐐 his work on the mk1 videos!

[@unofficialmeme5972]

Some people actually rank Ferra/Torr as better characters than Taven. 💀

[@Kira22558]

The level of disrespect 💀

[@jamichealruiz]

That’s Crazy But Goes To Show That They Don’t Know Shit About Mk Lore💯🤦🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

[@Boy-nz4uu]

Nobody can deny the ps2 era of mk was a fucking legendary thing made it’s own wave and timeless nostalgia to it Idgaf ima get a ps2 again to play games like this really made my childhood ‼️

[@Freefork]

This was my Christmas wish. Hohoho! Laid on your backs looking up at the Christmas lights!

[@DJIF34]

I always thought taven looked like Ben Aflack

[@darthmeticulous6901]

And Daegon looks a bit like Kratos.

[@angelsilva7207]

ANNNNND he defeated all those characters and clan, in one single day. Let’s go, Taven!!

[@frederickmeadows8716]

This was my favorite Mortal Kombat 💪🏽

[@karlsylvain]

TELL EM FIGHTERS DEN!! These fools don't even know their LORE!!!!! Taven is the truth son!!!

[@jiovanysoltero923]

Shinnok don’t want that Smoke from his Nephew Taven

[@equanimity92]

"Taven is one of the worst Characters in MK" *Laughs in Cassie Cage, Darius, Kai, Dairou, Mokap, Kobra

[@1MCElias]

I though you already did this video but maybe it was a mix of protagonists or characthers. Good video.

[@Quatrixjs1]

Great vid, Taven should have returned by now

[@Ascension7707]

In terms of strength/ability isn’t he second to only god liu Kang??? He smashed everyone. He may not have been the most likable main character but he was like an Edenian version of Liu Kang every fell before him with even Shinnok in surprise of his abilities. His mom was a powerful edenian sorceress and his dad was the main gods of Edenia who is also the father of Rain. I remember back in the day before MK X came out every lost I came across they said he was the strongest mk character under The One being with Liu Kang behind him but this was before fire god liu Kang

[@joseurbina3835]

Why Taven went MIA (Missing In Action) in the NRS Era was truly Disrespectful besides Easter Eggs and Cameos, also Hated the fact they Retcon the Ending of MK: Armageddon of Taven winning and beating Blaze by having Shao Kahn be the one in MK9, I kinda get this was during Midway Games verge of Bankruptcy and the Declining of the MK Franchise's grim Fate only while to being purchased by WB establishing NRS by Rebooting (mostly) the MK series and saved the Franchise, but that doesn't Excuse of how they completely mistreated the MK I.P.

[@mr.checkyourself4672]

Taven need to come back as well as Daegon we know Daegon is dead according to Cetrion dialogue intro to Raiden in MK11 but being Taven a god he'll reform.

[@LCPrestes1935]

Maximum respect to my brother Taven.

[@ImmolationVenus666]

People should have given all that disrespect to Cole because Taven may have had only one game but he didn't just appear out of nowhere and gets plot armor as his superpower, the Konquest Mode for Armageddon was actually pretty cool, not as much as Shaolin Monks though but still cool

[@ChamChamRealSmooth]

A minor nitpick, but Sonya never wanted to destroy the warship. It was Sektor who initiated the self-destruct sequence.

[@Nes4187]

8:20 my guess is this is where the story of mk9 really starts because of the flashback in the mk9 intro of Raiden fighting Taven

[@christopherlloyd8424]

Man, I love your videos. Most of the time, I agree with you. And I love that's it's no bs just looking at the facts.

[@thatoneguy1232]

Taven and Shujinko were worthy successors to Liu Kang. Cassie Cringe? No.

[@seasonembrace3624]

Something that Shujinko and Taven have over Kotal Khan is that neither were jobbers they won most of there fights. What has he achieved in the MK-X & 11/Aftermath story modes beyond being a punching bag which sucks because this guy is a boss in the MK-X comics. & even other cool characters like Erron Black and Kano haven’t won a single fight in the NRS story modes

[@lindarozalinda7177]

Freaking loved Dark Raiden! Pity what they did to him in NRS timeline...

[@beakedmonk3981]

5:41 "I thank you, stranger. I am Shujinko, the main character of the previous game!"

[@nelltheghost2166]

Idc what no one say Taven is a Beast and like his Bro Rain🌧️ Amazing he just needs to be the new Games to see his full potential

[@scorchrp6871]

I want the first timeline again. Ibknow they retconned this ending for shao khan to win but i want the correct ending with Taven winning and seeing where that would have went

[@hurricane7727]

They should make a Sequel to Mk Armageddon and Have Liu Kangs Child be the Protagonist and have Shujinko and Taven Ghosts both Train Him and the Elder Gods make Him their champion to Fight Blaze Powered Shao Kahn.( In Mk Deception Both Scorpion and Liu Kang were Champions( Liu Kang Champion of Mortal Kombat even reanimated and Scorpion Champion of the Elder Gods).

[@Illstatefishing]

Fighters Den spitting the facts here!!

[@kzakulenga5138]

He defeated not just any Scorpion but THE STRONGEST VERSION OF SCORPION DONT GOTTA SAY NO MORE!!!!!

[@realamericannegro977]

How strong was this Scorpion?

[@seamuswbiggerarmalite3379]

​@@realamericannegro977he has his own army and... some... fliyin skull choppers?

[@kurotensai5268]

What that’s name of the song at 9:19

[@hilaireb795]

My man finna hit 50k subs..,. Q&A?! Just where you from my G? lolol More heat from the man himself, keep the vids up playa

[@isaacmaurice227]

No they didn't retcon it. Taven actually did defeat Blaze but made everyone else stronger as an unforseen result. Says Taven tried to fight off everyone to hold off Armageddon. From MK9s intro it seems that he was defeated by Shao Kahn, Raiden or maybe both then Shao Kahn killed Raiden to become last man standing, therefore adding everyones power to his as its implied that the power can be taken by killing another.

[@corpsedesecrator2612]

Hell yeah great vid Taven is my favorite Kharacter in all of MK dare I say that Konquest Mode was super fun reminiscent of a 3D Beat Em Up like Fist Of The North Star Lost Paradise and Tekken 6 Scenario Campaign I LOVE gameplay like that nothing to take away from the classics in Streets Of Rage, Double Dragon and Final Fight I LOVE the founders of Beat Em Ups the best but scroll around 3Ds give me the same sensation. Anyways yeah it was Taven that defeated Blaze in my eyes and the true canon was suppose to be and was the last man standing at Pyramid of Argus not what that garbage shit arse lore desecrating retcon by nrs in MK9 had you believe being not Shao Kahn not Dark Raiden whom is good Raiden for some reason as Shao Kahn was flown into the distance by Onaga whom prolly killed him cause he has no chance against Onaga and Dark Raiden was struggling with Shinnok’s clone in the intro so nrs showed what incompetent writers they were from that intro alone then it got progressively worst during the end of MK2 and MK3 segements. Anyways back to Taven the real MVP this guy beat Kabal, Sektor, Sonya, Rain, fought Sub Zero to a draw, beat Noob and Smoke, Fujin, Mavado, Sheeva, Kintaro, Havik, Goro, Reiko, Dark Raiden, Scorpion dude was invincible and he went on to defeat Daegon and Blaze one of the most powerful kharacters in the entire series up there with Shujinko, Daegon, Blaze, Onaga, Shinnok, Raiden, Liu Kang. People say he’s stupid, generic, boring? I found nothing boring about the Kharacter the way the story is you can get back and feel for him relate to his loss and frustration he goes through total hell through the quest lost his family and still pressed forward had some funny dialogue with Sonya, Frost, and Goro dunno about the stupid part since he’s been asleep for ages along with Daegon there is many reasons why this is my favorite kharacter and will back up all the way and appreciate this vid, he doesn’t get as much hate as Shujinko dunno why people hate on Shujinko but like him he deserves respect with both kharacters having epik Lore cemented in history, impressive feats that topple 90% of the cast easily and you played through the BEST in both Konquest Modes with both of them to this day I don’t know witch Konquest I like better Armageddon or Deception they both are great and unique in their own ways.

[@darthmeticulous6901]

Fun fact: If you complete all the monolith challenges in MKA’s Konquest as well as the main story, Taven ends up fighting and defeating every single boss and sub-boss in the entire game (He fights Moloch and Motaro in the Netherrealm monolith and fights Shao Kahn in the Outworld monolith) except for Onaga.

[@TheDualHero15]

You're right that Taven needs to be respected but I was bored playing him in the Konquest Mode. I only finished it because it was MK.

[@lbnycity89]

When are you going to do a main roster, DLC and guess characters prediction for MK 12?