Most Sandbox Building Games Can't Handle Winch Physics [Instruments of Destruction]

Welcome to another episode of Instruments of Destruction! Today I want to experiment with winches to see how this game handles the physics of raveling flexible objects!
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About the game:
Instruments of Destruction features an advanced physics-based destruction system. You can demolish every structure in the game piece by piece. In addition, every object you see in the game world--save for small decorative plants and rocks--is part of the physics system. Each element of the world interacts with each other and together they create a physical, visceral world to play with.
Build Your Vehicle
Build a vehicle your way, with an ever-expanding array of parts and pieces. Using an intuitive vehicle construction system that also lets you customize your vehicles' appearance and controls, you'll always have fun creating your next awesome invention.
From simple splitters to advanced joints, a variety of parts slowly unlock as you play through the game, and each unlocks countless new possibilities.
While some vehicles will perform better than others in accomplishing your objectives, it's always a bit more fun to get creative and go a little off script. Optional bonus challenges and objectives will reward more creative builders and add more replayability.
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[@Gamer12666]

I kinda wanna see Scrapman play Space Engineers.

[@papermk2249]

Yes I think he’d love it

[@onerxowns2202]

Or Besige first, then Space Engineers and From The Depths as most complex one, and with best AI combat

[@traxzes21]

100%

[@bernardoramos7842]

100%

[@CDR_Droid]

True, imagine him recording and just getting destroyed by a random encounter. Unless he turn it off

[@dudeman3606]

An important detail with the different materials of ropes is the node spacing. Basically it controls how far apart the points (that collide with stuff) are so you could probably use ropes, cables or whatever if you adjust the settings some.

[@midori_the_eldritch]

the not coiling properly issue happens irl as well, and to prevent that a lot of industrial winches either have guides, often just a centering holes, but for some applications it moves with where the rope or cable is wanted on the spool, because if it bunches then slides, not only can it massively change the forces on the winch's moter, but it can form knots and tangles

[@mecha2515]

This man keeps me intertained me over years now. Keep the momentum up scrapman.

[@itpony]

I dont have the game to test it myself, but I noticed with ropes in the beggining at first you attached the base to your vehicle and later was the base attached to that remote block. Maybe that was why it was behaving differently?

[@Prince_Asuda]

I was about to comment the same thing myself. I suspect that the 2nd attachment point might be slightly weaker or that the physics might get more unpredictable the further you go along the rope from the source. It would be an interesting test for him to revisit.

[@Frameton.]

Something I noticed was that the chains only seemed to phase through, when you creation was in contact with a building. It shouldn't have phased when you lowered the saw onto the building, it was able to pull it up and let it down without problems before that but when it touched the building it started phasing.

[@andreamarchetti1010]

with this mechanism the first thing that popped in my mind was a crossbow, I think it could be very interesting

[@timgal5868]

Every time I watch this game being played I'm just constantly impressed by the flex beam haha. It just seems so powerful. Personally, I'd love something similar to it in Scrap Mechanic.

[@qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm4992]

7:11 Scrapman: look at that no problem The winch: *sparks uncontrollably*

[@phantomcrafter146]

Looks like the mechanism used to light rocket engines

[@Kian00]

By the looks of it the Cain might not have actually have been phasing through but was instead getting twisted, look at the spiral pattern at 10:57. This also makes more sense as to why the wrecking ball was twisting around so strangely at 10:41.

[@wyrmwarlock]

If you watch closely, it's twisting because it's slipping through. That's genuinely so much more interesting because it implies that you could use chain as the engine for a torsion grabber that rips out individual chunks from the building.

[@Petq011]

7:00 "How did it get longer when it should have already been at its shortest?" As you just said a second ago, everything tightened, and the "excess" was pulled out by the weight, causing it to pretty naturally extend. That is probably what happened the first time. Every time after that it was just phasing through.

[@SonOfmowgef]

Might be a fun challenge to see if you can make a machine the cuts a building in half (like this one) but in a way that makes the parts fall directly away from each other.

[@cheetahman515]

So like those katana videos?

[@SonOfmowgef]

@@cheetahman515 Kinda, yeah.

[@AngelboyVR]

one word: Nodespacing ;D and yes, ur right, always increase the thickness of the rollers, in reality these things are never as thing as a toothppick, due to potential damage to the rope or whatever is being winched nonetheless, amazing video, loads o fun

[@Ikller-xh7qq]

Another test on the winch: Do parallel chains increase the weight needed to phase through?

[@danielpalecek4090]

10:00 the chains flying apart in random directions is called "hyperheat" in vooperian, "weirded out drone" in droneboi, "kraken attack" in kerbal space program, "jagger drive" in trailmakers, "time crystal" in real life

[@QuirkyView]

Winches do not naturally go back and forth, most coil storages have something to manually move the rope/cable/wire/hose/chain coming in back and forth evenly as it comes in. In this game, I think a sliding piston would work perfectly

[@kristinabegail]

17:00 - 17:45 Phil Swift: I sawed this boat in half! Scrapman: I sawed this building in half!

[@slimedev4920]

Awesome video today! I have been listening to your music all day, truly love it

[@AustralViking]

Something to try is a trick that used to work on some physics engines, you could try duplicating the axle of the winch and making some of those copies a little larger, that makes the engine evaluate them multiple times for the collision calculation and may improve the accuracy.

[@curtisrussell4305]

Love your content Scrapman!! All of it! Even your music!! Btw your reveal for your recent album was amazing! I loved how you revealed picture by picture to make the entire cover! Was awesome man! Lol!

[@mattmays9063]

@15:49 I needed that crane to fall one last time so badly. LMAO

[@jojobobbubble5688]

This is some cool stuff. Would like to see some less glitchy mechanics to take further advantage of this discovery

[@DanielMether]

The chain seems to have a "slip point" to avoid glitching out from over stress (if you've ever played beam NG you can see weird graphical errors when insane stress is applied to soft body joints).

[@MaldoDIY]

Awesome video Scrapman. BTW, just watched your music video, Void Hollo, love it man, definitely the amount of views it currently has does not make it justice. Rock on bro, I see great potential🤟🤟🤟

[@aircraftcarrierwo-class]

The sawblade arm would probably be lighter if you made it out of a different block or even a flex beam. Might work better with the winch that way and it wouldn't get caught on the gap made by the saw either.

[@jaunusender6166]

What about multiple chains or multiple rods for it to phase through, would those increase stability? It looked like you could place 5 crossbeams and 2 chains pretty easily.

[@DRAKE-ic1fd]

This could make for a good draw bridge design. You could even hide the winch inside a castle wall and have the chain come out alof a hole possibly. Cool vid man. Or should I say scrap man. 😂👍

[@cicknnooget4837]

You should do a New Years Trailmakers Best Builds, like a week after the new year starts to get all the newest creations! ..Maybe you should do that in scrap mechanic AND instruments of destruction too!

[@Tauramehtar]

17:00 "Insert at the bottom." -ScrapMan, 2022

[@rogankeelty2839]

Hi, Scrapman! It's Lord Rogan- Suggestion: modify the wrench controls to a SLIDER, so adjusting it's fixed speed should theoretically reduce fazing.

[@Krokmaniak]

17:30 "To show you power of flex tape I saw this building in half"

[@rip_8114]

you could make the chain wrap up around a building sideways and then pull it with the winch. Maybe push it with a magnet-metal ball thing with grapplings attatched.

[@ElliotsLegoCreations]

Cool vid idea: YDIB but it is in instruments of destruction!

[@hughjanis6318]

This has inspired me to make something similar in Stormworks...

[@demonglyphix4559]

I wanna see scrapman build beyblades in trailmakers and scrapmechanic again with kAN and kosmo it would be pretty cool

[@thisisourusername3919]

Hey, I was wondering if you would like to try making a battle bots full body spinner. That would be very destructive and fun. you could add weapons and even lasers if you want. That is something I would like to see in this game.

[@Gamer12666]

He's made a Beyblade in Instruments of Destruction before, it had lasers and everything. It ate through buildings though it was hard to control.

[@gamerxdpro9112]

I love those videos when you make things on a game i really like it keep it up scrapman i know this excavator on this part 11:37 but i forget what its name

[@dorianbelancic1276]

who else thought the thumbnail said "wind physics" and got hyped still a great video as always

[@mus_xr4653]

This is amazing

[@darkknight7040]

Scrapman I love your vids man!!! I had been looking for someone to do all these tech type games for so long!! Just a small suggestion have you tried out Minecraft Create mod yet? I believe this is RIGHT up your alley!!! I see that you can build true GIANT trains and tracks in the newer one!!

[@leeik2155]

Scrap Mechanic MM idea - low friction block curling!

[@markouellette6868]

Good mornin scrappy man

[@kopow4320]

I would love to see him experiment with levers/pulleys to see if they work and also affect the weight of an object/force needed to carry it. Like having an object to heavy for the fast swivel but then using a lever/pulley to see if he can pick it up with the used-to-be unliftable object!

[@chkball1]

I remember a video you did where you drove a rope around a building and used a machine to pull it through the building. Could probably do the same with the winch.

[@youtubemaniac9054]

When you used the winch to pull up part of the creation, all I could think about was a drawbridge

[@nickgraham9108]

i used a winch to go the gimble jet in trailmakers from the lake in the cave. i made it from pipes and steering hinges.

[@soldjahboy]

Put two chains on it. Just add another one to the opposite end of the spool, to the end of the boom. I wonder if having double chain would give more power. You could also add additional spools - like dual spool with 4 chains on a single boom, by building them horizontally to each other, one entire spool per side of the boom.

[@anshvirm7911]

Idea: make a giant carpet of spikes, drop it on a building, and use winches to pull it back up.

[@AdhvaithSane]

18:10 Why does that remind me of something 🤔..Oops! Gotta purify my thoughts.

[@lucasvandermeersch8796]

You should try making a trebuché

[@alexlocke_]

There’s this ad for a bad mobile game I saw where you shoot a grapple hook and you can control its fight and wrap around buildings, you can then pull the hook in and destroy the building. You should remake this in the game!

[@bryankrijgh]

Should be fun to wrap a chain around the base of the building and winch in. You'll rip the first floor of the building and let the building collapse on itself.🤙

[@Pillowmanz]

idea: gigantic plans vs tiny plane also love your vids😀

[@DafyddNZ]

I wonder if you could make a catapult. Winch the arm back towards the ground, with something providing tension to the arm so it will spring back into vertical, then have something to release the winch axle.

[@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890]

I’d love to see scrapman build The Large Hadron Collider 😳

[@BeefIngot]

I think its all about bending radius. A bigger rolling pin and gentler curves means easier winding. It relates to strain relief in real life.

[@steeljawX]

So what would happen if you compounded this? Have a pulley pull in a swing arm with another pulley on the end connected to another swing arm, etc for about 4 or 5 arms? Would that compound the speed and therefore make a viable launch platform or would it just break? Though for a video. If one winch won't hold, what about 4? Just wondering.

[@DETHdressedInRED]

13:40 hey dude, attach a long boom with a massive heavy hammer at the end of that and a counterweight on the other side. Once you raise the hammer to a certain angle it will perfectly balance then move into position, anchor, raise the hammer to full height and drop it.

[@DETHdressedInRED]

Also try having like 4 blocks making the core each with a chain and a beam in between each one for space for the chain to wind up.

[@drybonesky]

When I think of winches (or just pully systems in general, maybe idk) I think of crossbows or in this case, The Ballista. (Also Day 3 of asking for Workshop Hunters in Trailmakers)

[@yourboyjosiahgaming2910]

I kinda want to see scrapman play besige

[@chickinnipples6560]

I'd like to see Scrapman make an articulated arm

[@TheGam200]

I would like to see you make a jerico from ironman a ballon takes several rockets all joined together and then they detach all shooting to the ground at once making multiple shockwaves destroying an area. Could be very satisfying.

[@GoldCars666]

Winched excavator next :)

[@reccabautista538]

Will wave experiments work in the game using the ropes? The wave-related experiments could be reflecting waves on a fixed end, constructive and destructive waves.

[@swthusks]

Can you please make a working Crain, like the ones they use when constructing a building,using the chain and all

[@the.other.ian.]

I think for a rope/other thin material cable wench you would need a thicker spool for it to wrap around and then it would work.

[@omgtntlol]

day 39 of asking scrapman to do a multiplayer where everyone starts at the crashed ship with a craftbot already at the mechanic station and everyone has 30 minutes to build a vehicle from scratch, no glitches, thrusters allowed, after which everyone meets up and races along some road

[@christinegilmon6866]

Try tying down planes or other arial vehicles to the ground or other things

[@darkwarrior1588]

can you use ropes or bungies to catch a moving object? like an aircraft carrier uses catch cables

[@dergus8833]

Try and see if physics work well enough for a trebuchet, where there are two pieces of rope with a stick in the middle and you twist the rope or stick around to that they become twisted, I probably explained that very badly

[@brutace9219]

I kinda wanna see this winch-controlled arm combined with a gear system to maximize torque and lift incredible weights.

[@RealPanzer999]

As you already thought of the bucket-excavator, why not build one? You have the parts & know how to build a winch so that would be a logical step to take. Just make sure to make the end light enough. Doesn't have to be to scale afterall & doesn't have to work great it just has to work.

[@FoxDog1080]

_Changes which way it spins_ "Why did it stop working?"

[@Friendly_Neighborhood_Dozer]

I think if you’d use two chains, it would probably make it more resistant to phasing

[@35manning]

Would now be a good time to inform Scrapman that a method to clear small trees and bushes (aka, scrub as we call in in Australia) is to attach a long cable or chain between two bulldozers and just drive along with the cable / chain stretched out between the two machines. Video 1: how it's done in detail kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3KWZ4CXYp2daMk Video 2: how it's done in Australia kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5STZ6Jtlt6rY8k

[@rex-a-sor1549]

You should attempt to make the croniplan in trail makers pretty sure I spelt that wrong but it's a plane that like goes on water and doesn't fly like hovers a little about the water

[@tha_than4148]

Next video you should do a review of mini vehicles in trailmakers .

[@aneo3535]

Please, try to make a trebuchet Using this ropes

[@MaineTheMan]

i think part of the problem with the chain phasing is that when it was twisted it became more rigid and less flexible

[@cyantasks7129]

17:49 to show you the power of flex beams I cut this building in half!

[@glitchmasterd5908]

Hi scrap!

[@grayradicalgaming6760]

Idea: marionette of doom (one of those puppet things controlled by strings with sawblades and destruction stuff)

[@SpamtonG._Spamton]

i have an idea for this add little winch joints I'm kind of new to this game so idk if there are already bearing like joints will may welp with the phasing issue

[@SonOfmowgef]

"Go in at the bottom" - ScrapMan 2022.

[@Mk1Astraomega]

timestamp?

[@nilsheinert]

Try cosmoteer its a great build, fight and scout game

[@avanishdoki5321]

17:02 "Insert at the bottom"

[@Auxetic-]

Would adding multiple chains per winch improve the amount of weight it can lift?

[@elitsastoitsova401]

i wanna see Scrapman play jalopy

[@tannerkilbey10]

I thought scrapman had a basic vehicle saved so he doesn't have to keep building one over and over 🤔 lol 😆

[@turnedwheat2013]

Morning 🌄 Scrap Man

[@rhynodupreez2665]

Can you try using 2 chains? Might help lift a lot more.

[@bruh1619]

Is there a way to disable particle effects in the game? That might give you a better view next time

[@xenomorph5279]

you know how when a very heavy anchor is dropped on a big ship the chains holding it has a lot of tension and if it hits something in the way it does devastating damage... can we use that in instruments of destruction?

[@vonknorring09]

You should try kerbal space program

[@bobisha772]

As far as funny things with ropes, could you create a machine with a rope attached to both sides of it that is also capable of jumping? I am imagining a machine that is using a jump rope.

[@bloomersmc]

If you upped the torque it will allow you to life it like at 16:15

[@BelldofersMatlack]

Try changing some of the settings on the ropes

[@0licampbell]

You should continue the winches and try and build pullies

[@GummieI]

A bit sad, he didn't go back and try the robe on the taller version, as even the chain seemed to work better when it was taller, so maybe the robe would have as well?

[@meaterbeater2781]

You should try and remake jeorg spraves “the biggest slingshot ever”