Someone on tiktok asked why we couldn't hear an infant crying in "The Underworld" and another replied "why would Astyanax cry when he's back in the arms of his father?" Big oof.
@moterinsun2 ай бұрын
D:
@suziegonzalez22612 ай бұрын
Ouch bro
@ra1nynightz2 ай бұрын
The way my smile just immediately dropped when I finished that
@adamharith7822 ай бұрын
Oh yeah, since his corpse was buried (I assume this if Astynax body even survive the impact intact) was allowed to cross the River I guess. Got to met his father.
@astellis11Ай бұрын
OW
@autumnnisonger91832 ай бұрын
The fact that makes the underworld even more sad is that the spirits sing their last thoughts before they passed
@ModernAegis23 күн бұрын
If Odysseus was me, and that was my mother, that would have fucking broken me.
@DrAxolots2 күн бұрын
@@ModernAegis Mate, it definitely broke *something* in the man 😶
@cr36172 ай бұрын
I always took the line "there's a world where I help you get home, but that's not a world I know" to mean that Jorge is letting us know he acknowledges that in the original story, the prophet does tell him how to get home. But that's another world/universe, it is not this one.
@ssbruv2 ай бұрын
Damn I didn't even think about that, that's awesome
@mielliot132 ай бұрын
I never thought of that, although the best part about everything the prophet is saying has multiple different but accurate meanings. Like it could be referring to past events, future events or both. So I'm going to believe that this is one of the correct interpretations :)
@nyxalex804927 күн бұрын
Im not too familiar with the original but when he got surprised the prophet isnt helping and figured thats how the original goes, that EXACTLY what i thought of its so smart
@_K1ba_2 ай бұрын
funny you mention Elpenor he was actually supposed to be in the underworld but Jorge scrapped it because he thought it was too unserious 😭
@revelouv2 ай бұрын
it's actually hilarious lmaoooo
@K1yoshu2 ай бұрын
It also helps solidify how forgotten he was lol. 😂
@PanicBasedRiotАй бұрын
I died and nobody noticed. I died and nobody cared 😫😫
@mercy8370Ай бұрын
I keep reading the name Elpenor but I still don't know who he is or what's his deal, I just know for context that he was another soldier on the fleer but like, idk if he was suppose to be a background character, i mean, we know him by name so...
@aperson9597Ай бұрын
@@mercy8370 he's a character that got drunk during the whole circe story arc and fell to his death from her palace's roof. his whole deal is that he died and no one noticed. so the fact that his lines were scrapped makes it even funnier lmao. the whole ''43 men left under your command'' vs ''558 men, who died under your command'' discrepancy is a nod to his character dying in between
@XxXmIcH3lleXxX2 ай бұрын
Jorge said that the voices of the souls speak the last thing on their mind before they died. The crew died thinking about how their captain betrayed them. Polities died still thinking about what's good in the world. His mother died thinking about his return. The prophet is voiced by Mason Olshavsky but yes they sound very similar. Also another fun fact, Odysseus's mother is voiced by Jorge's real mother 💔
@togucvinw72 ай бұрын
Why the broken heart tho she not dead irl 😅
@XxXmIcH3lleXxX2 ай бұрын
@@togucvinw7 lol, I know. I meant it as being even more sad/impactful when you hear the song.
@AaronTheBaron8925 күн бұрын
@@togucvinw7 yeah but also cause she struggled to sing the song with him because she kept tearing up thinking how she would most likely die before he does... Atleast that's what I've heard-
@togucvinw725 күн бұрын
@@AaronTheBaron89 oh , that changes everything with this context indeed 😢
@maritalll2 ай бұрын
-WHO?!!!! - you, honey, you...
@khoinguyen50042 ай бұрын
*Agressive owl Imitation*
@lilyduck45382 ай бұрын
🦉🦉🦉🦉
@MoniCu92Ай бұрын
Warrior of the mind, everybody
@autumnnisonger91832 ай бұрын
Idk if you knew this going into the video but Ody's mom is voiced by Jorge's mom
@briannapadilla76222 ай бұрын
Yeah and apparently when she was recording her part, they had to do so many takes, because she kept on having to stop becsuse she would start to breaking down and bawling instantly, because she kept on thinking about what will happen when she isnt around anymore and also on how she wouldn't be able to support her sons dreams and accomplishments and to support him throught it all instantly she would end up bawling hysterically every single time she's like "I never thought about it before until this exact moment when I started singing this part". If this part wasn't already a gut punch when we found out it's his actual mother now it's a super gut punch like almost Soul snatching when you find out this part
@NullCardinal12 ай бұрын
@@briannapadilla7622 damn, I didn't know that, that's so sad. 😭
@Starryflame2 ай бұрын
@@briannapadilla7622 Not sure if that was true, I heard that that's not true and that it is true
@Salinaut2 ай бұрын
And now his dad performed in the Wisdom Saga! I love when creators bring in their parents. Like in the Magnus Archives and them bringing in Jonny's parents. Lol
@boopsy44392 ай бұрын
I wonder if this was emotional for Jorge, too, since it was him singing with his mom?
@SayukiSuzukiMizuno2 ай бұрын
Odysseus: What if I'm the problem? Crew: Naaah. No waaaay, really?
@JayietheRiverWarrior2 ай бұрын
Please, the crew has no room to talk 😂
@Apophis.0042 ай бұрын
"Captain, what's happening, what's trapped in that bag?"
@comfy-y4z2 ай бұрын
They were all assholes in their own unique way, from Ody to the crew to Athena, they were all in the wrong :)
@soniaruzafaangosto91622 ай бұрын
What always devastates me the most is that the singer for Odysseus mom in the underworld is Jorge Rivera's actual mom. And I don't know where she said it, but she explained that the day recording her lines for The Underworld she thought for the first time in her life how someday her son will outlive her 💔
@andronixbegayaf2 ай бұрын
"558 men" is a direct reference to Elpenor(the guy who fell of the roof). In Ruthlessness Posaidon said "43 left under your command" and 600-43 is 557
@icemagiciangh2 ай бұрын
To quote Jorge when describing this saga- “This is where Odysseus goes to get his heart broken!”
@Rcmkney232 ай бұрын
"so much has changed, but im the same yes im the same!" -Keep your friends close when oddy is dreaming of coming home to wife
@icemagiciangh2 ай бұрын
Ik. That part breaks me, even then. Mircsy and Ximena did a great job at conveying the heartbreak in their animatics, too
@liminalpsych2 ай бұрын
*yes*. After the Underworld saga came out, that line in KYFS hits me *so hard* every single time
@cdbitesky2 ай бұрын
The guy who died falling from Circe's roof, Elpenor, actually has a cut song. You can find a demo of it on KZbin I believe, if you wanna hear what would've been sung for him
@sup3rhyp3r562 ай бұрын
Also I don’t know about other but for Gigi’s there are other ways you can see him about to fall! Such a cool detail
@ciomaria61372 ай бұрын
@@sup3rhyp3r56I remember only seeing that after my 3rd watching of it. The Gigi and the other animators are just brilliant. Each one adds little details that add so much.
@icemagiciangh2 ай бұрын
And ‘Cope With That’, too
@MarzBarz712222 ай бұрын
"i died, and nobody noticed 😔, i died, and nobody cared☹." "elpenor, when did you meet your despair??😕" "i drank wine from a chalice, on top of circes palace, and fell and broke my neck." idr the rest LOL
@alex60272 ай бұрын
Fun fact, the backing chanting during the end of No Longer You is actually saying specific words, they're just purposefully very obscure, audibly.
@ThXtsVnfortunXteАй бұрын
Prophet doing prophet things
@XenkatzeАй бұрын
🎶SIREN SONG🎶SCYLLA COST🎶
@JoshuaHillmanatorHillman2 ай бұрын
GUYS, ELEPNOR! SOMEONE REMEMBERS ELEPNOR!
@LadyGreensleeves332 ай бұрын
8:24 - Elpenor! Jorge originally included him, but thought his verse came off a bit ... accidentally light-hearted so ended up cutting it, but he's posted what it would have sounded like
@IcecreamCat232 ай бұрын
It’s funny cause No Longer You makes so much more sense after the fact. But Jorge does an amazing job keeping it vague cause that’s what prophecies are sometimes. Confusing and come true in the weirdest way
@lispenardstreet2 ай бұрын
I loooove your EPIC reactions so much, they are my favorites out of all of them. It's so nice to see someone who actually knows the poem and understands what he's reacting to without mixing everything up or forgetting all of the previous sagas ❤ the way you keep attention to the details is so nice to see and your opinion and explanations are so interesting!!!! Thank you! Please keep it up, Sir. Greetings from Germany :)
@michaelsutton16152 ай бұрын
"WHO!!!!" - Odysseus, da angriest owl
@michaelsutton16152 ай бұрын
"YOU CAN'T EVEN DO THAT RIGHT?!" - Athena, probably... mebbe
@dianac.coloncruz47382 ай бұрын
Haunting because he’s haunted or hunting because he’s literally hunting the men in the palace both work honestly
@eesmareed2 ай бұрын
Man, what a way to close act 1. Were this live in theatre I would struggle to get up for the intermission and just wouldn't be able to speak a word to anybody LOL I always look forward to your reactions though!
@funnyguyiswear69102 ай бұрын
One of the best channels for epic reactions
@boopsy44392 ай бұрын
I agree!
@LadyOndyne2 ай бұрын
"I see past and future running free" Tyresias' prophecy talks about the past and the future of the plot all at once, on each sentence. He sees past and future all mixed up so every sentence has double meaning. I love "No Longer you because of that complexity. Also, the final chorus-SPOILER: Reveals the four songs of the next saga: Sirens' song-Scylla's throat-Mutiny-Lightning bolt
@theartdemon64712 ай бұрын
8:10 Funny enough Jorge did release snippets of Elpenor, the one that died being drunk
@LordCrag19982 ай бұрын
There's a reason I call this saga "Emotional Damage: The Musical." The first time I heard it I had to pause after Odysseus said "I took too long" because I got so choked up
@ciomaria61372 ай бұрын
Your reactions are so heartfelt and genuine. After you get caught up, I would love to see you react to some of the animatics. Jorge had input on some of them so you really get a better idea of his vision.
@nutelasaur94532 ай бұрын
I love No Longer You, it's so lyrically brilliant for the double meanings on everything and the singer (Mason Olshavsky i think is how you spell it) making it beautifully haunting
@dianneantos4802 ай бұрын
Lyle, I so appreciate that you obviously know the original poem. You using that knowledge to reactor to EPIC makes for my appreciation!
@HerringHeHes2 ай бұрын
Tiresias is voiced by Mason Olshavsky
@icemagiciangh2 ай бұрын
Fun facts time- The choir behind the prophet were actually singing hints of what would happen in Act 2 Elpenor (broken neck guy) had a larger part to play in the rough draft of the musical. He had his own song, and other parts in different songs. Now there’s the Easter Egg of miscounting the men when it came to how many had died. Forgotten, just like in the poem.
@depressedgamerzz2 ай бұрын
as a person that watched the underworld saga. it hit home. i lost my grandmother while being in a different country. so when i first saw the underworld i cried for the first time while watching a video. so that was an expirience
@gam3rgodproductions2 ай бұрын
The best part of the first track, as long as i'm not mistaken, is Odysseus' mother is sung by Jorge's actual mother as well, so it just adds another little level to the feels and it sounds so good. My favorite part of the Underworld Saga.
@stiletteleray13262 ай бұрын
The mother part never ceases to make me cry. Thanks for the reaction and analysis!
@sharvil12 ай бұрын
Yes! I've been waiting for this saga! Your reactions always make my day. Not only is The Underworld my favorite saga, I really wanted to see your reaction to Odysseus's mother appearing and you didn't disappoint! That first "Waiting..." and your face said "oh, no; I know who this is". I love all the musical callbacks in The Underworld (song) - every one of them just hits so perfectly. I love that you know the poem and can give us explanations of things - it's absolutely enhancing my enjoyment of the musical. And I absolutely adore that you are doing a musical listen though first - it give such a pure reaction that the animatics can only make better. :) (And as somebody else pointed out - that final chord and then 'house lights on for intermission' would be such a power move.)
@gracielasea2 ай бұрын
Congrats Odysseus, you have reached ‘Fuck It’.
@briannapadilla76222 ай бұрын
So the spirits, because they have to be spirits, because he is not a God, he can not conjure up vocals like the gods can since he is still a human. That means by the law of this musical or what people say is the law and dynamic is that the choir still has to be humans or spirits around him singing the choir part to have a backup choir or voice singing if that makes since. The spirits around him are singing as the backup choir for the prophet. The spirits are chanting, "Sirens Song" "Scylla throat" "Mutiny" "Lightning Bolt" "Whirlpool, Poseidon" "Kill all the Suitors for Love" "Ody" "sseus" "Ody" "sseus" The first four chants have been confirmed by Jorge himself, the last 6 is my guess, due to the fact that in one of the animatics it has subtitles that came from the actual lyrics off of the official album on Spotify and that's what they say it is. I'm guessing that's what it is because it's supposed to be the official lyrics on there so that's what I think the last six chants are.
@SadfaceCMАй бұрын
11:46 One thing I love about the prophetic lines is that it can be seen from multiple points in the timeline (Iliad, Pre-Underworld Odysey and future events as well!) I had fun trying to figure out all the potential meanings behind the lines from the different timepoints! 15:15 The choir in the background are also apart of the prophecy! Most of the lines have been confirmed/agreed upon but not all. They are in order: Siren song, Scylla Throat, Mutiny, Lightning Bolt, Whirlpool Poseidon (This one is contested, another version could be ‘Run from Poseidon’), Kill All The Suiters For Love, and it finishes with chants of ‘Odysseus’ in the danger motif (That’s a thing too btw, not sure if it’s been mentioned)!
@FearTheDeep2 ай бұрын
This is my personal favorite Saga so far, so emotional, intense, and powerful.
@HelloitsMeli2 ай бұрын
(Mentions Elpenor, remembers the cut song, and then laughs, while youre crying again cause of the reaction)
@serenac.71922 ай бұрын
Elpenor would be so overjoyed to know you're aware of his existence
@vbscinema2 ай бұрын
just finished watching all your epic reactions up to circe's saga and see this upload!! thank you so much, keep up the good work man 🧡
@dianac.coloncruz47382 ай бұрын
Jorge Rivera’s mother is the voice for Odysseus’ mother which is parapelos
@Frostoad2 ай бұрын
I love Tyresias' prophecy, it can be interpreted as past events and future, cuz he sees both.
@MewDenise2 ай бұрын
Ive actually been enjoying you react to the track only without visuals. Of course helps when you know the story already
@malenejensen022 ай бұрын
Wait the mom was actually in the original poem?! Excuse me while I go cry some more
@DrakeDragonton2 ай бұрын
Whose hyped for Wisdom???!!!
@ali4games102 ай бұрын
In 6 hours ish mate we are so bloody close
@DrakeDragonton2 ай бұрын
@@ali4games10 I’m a little disappointed we are getting a seven in one stream since I am too excited to wait for the new saga, but I’m glad he’s leaving up the stream.
@DetectiveWraith2 ай бұрын
It was and is great.
@ali4games102 ай бұрын
@@DetectiveWraith oh better then great, no hyperbole the best saga yet closely beating underworld.
@fern_87292 ай бұрын
@@DetectiveWraith Ong
@GenericVampire458 күн бұрын
Waiting was also sung by Jorge's Mother which makes it hit even harder
@andronixbegayaf2 ай бұрын
Interesting fact that could be slight spoilers for the next saga but is also really interesting: Most of the things Tirisias said in the chorus are about what's gonna happen in the thunder saga
@batgirl89732 ай бұрын
It's so nice to see someone listening to this that actually knows the story. Very refreshing
@quillzink68632 ай бұрын
🎉🎉 Let’s gooooo down in the underworld we travel. I’m so hype you’re so close to my #1 Saga Thunder Saga just slaps your bloody socks off. You planning on doing a separate binge watch of the Animatics at all? See artists different interpretations of the scenes?
@ericsanford5362 ай бұрын
I definitely take it as the prophet means Odysseus when he talks about a man with his wife. I mean... who has a longer trail of bodies than him?
@sami_miya2 ай бұрын
Wisdom saga spoilers ahead ⚠️ I'd like to point out that at this point it really seems as Ody looks at Athena as only a mentor and no longer a friend And in the wisdom saga it seems like Athena now views Ody as mainly a friend so it's a bit ironic
@TrickTheKick2 ай бұрын
ODYSSEUSES MOM IS VOICED BY JORGES MOM TOO SO IT HITS SO MUCH HARDER
@redneckgaming70402 ай бұрын
The prophet is telling him he will not make it home, but the man he becomes will
@ryanmackenzie6109Ай бұрын
Underworld is the absolute best Saga of the muscal imo! So many deep, rich emotions. So much power behind every piece of the songs. I want to drown in it
@paquadjo15172 ай бұрын
It's a prophecy. Doubt it's gonna be straightforward.
@words-with-wooly2 ай бұрын
What gets me every time when listening to Underworld is the fact that Jorge's mom sings as Odysseus's mom. It's so beautiful, I can only imagine how meaningful and emotional it was to record that with his mom. A really nice touch
@gabby.watson27 күн бұрын
Odys mom is actually voiced by Jorge’s mother which makes the underworld even sadder
@kharolyneholler251823 күн бұрын
i see a song of past romance (siren song, when they interpret penelope) i see the sacrifice of man (scylla throat, the six man for the passage) i see portrayyal of bretrayal (mutiny, preety self explanatory) and a brother final stance (lighting bolt, eurylochus tsaying captain, but we will die) i see you on the brink of death (him on the ledge at calipso island) i see you draw your final breath (poseidon) i see a man who gets to make it home alive, but its no longer you (rutheless killing all the suitors whitout a blink of an eye)
@Ansixilus2 ай бұрын
Remember about what Tiresias is singing about: he's a prophet. All of what he's singing about is about the future, not the past. "A song of past romance" Ody talking about his love for Penelope, no prizes for guessing when that happens. "The sacrifice of man" Well... "light up six torches" comes to mind (you'll see). "Portrayals of betrayal" Thunder Saga song 4. "A brother's final stand" Thunder Saga song 5, remember who is whose brother in law (many animatics turn this moment truly heart-rending).
@AmarisSalinas-z4s2 ай бұрын
Hear the coro in the back in: 15:16 They say: "SIREN SONG, SCILLA (idk), MUTINY, THUNDER BRINGER, FIGHT PO-SEI-DON, KILL ALL THE SAILORS FOR LOVE" It's a cool detail .v.
@FireGoddess022 ай бұрын
The part with his mom gets me teary eyed every single time i listen to it
@blobsessedart71552 ай бұрын
I hope after listening to thunder saga that you start reacting to animatics! I think it adds a lot to the experience
@nicco751814 күн бұрын
If you DON'T want to cry more, dont finish reading this: Jorge's mother voice's Ody's mom. And when she was recording this song she ended up struggling and needing a break because it made her realise/think of how at some point she's going to outlive Jorge...
@GusTaJooJ_OFC2 ай бұрын
This last song is basically a musical version of "I'm the one who knocks" if you know what I mean
@akkimylo32862 ай бұрын
Love your epic reactions mate, the coming sagas are going to be insane
@alexispincock74092 ай бұрын
No Longer You is my favorite song!!
@Tilla002 ай бұрын
Instant Like! I'm so excited to watch this!
@PatrolNation2 ай бұрын
Hope you like it!
@AaronTheBaron8925 күн бұрын
To everyone, make sure you give your mom a hug and let her know how much you love her, she won't be around forever- 😞
@wynnefoxАй бұрын
Lets be clear about Ody's mom. She didn't simply die of a broken heart. This isn't an Artax situation. She self terminated when she "found out" her son was lost at sea. It is REALLY tragic and my eyes tear up just thinking about it.
@doomofthedestiny80652 ай бұрын
Man I need to stop forgetting to have tissue nearby when I listen to these songs and people's reactions... Also note, Posiedon said 43 left, and the underworld said 558 dead. The forgotten soldier was a deleted scene (how appropriate), but the math remains in the final.
@maritalll2 ай бұрын
lets go✨ love your reactions
@pmookie2 ай бұрын
no matter howmany times i hear it , hearing the mom part gets me to tear up , it's been a while since a song could make me so emotional
@wynnefoxАй бұрын
Eurysseus is Odysseus' Borther-in-law.
@elitusyeetus20322 ай бұрын
i dont know if youve been told this yet, but the singer for ody's mom is jorge's mom! so another layer of tears
@peggysoutherland11832 ай бұрын
G'day Lyle!
@patrickmiller73992 ай бұрын
Cant wait for you to react to the next saga!
@duolingoowl9202 ай бұрын
I cried too my friend. I did too
@sippy18502 ай бұрын
Wisdom saga soon 3hrs counting
@flynnbrooks33022 ай бұрын
If you’ve not heard the thunder saga yet this comment is 100% going to be a spoiler so DO NOT READ FURTHER Holy fuck hearing the prophet again i think “i see portrayals of betrayals and a brothers final stand” might mean when eurilicus and the surviving crew are begging him to chose them over himself (the brothers final stand) and the betrayal being odysseys choosing his own life.
@oceanapearl35032 күн бұрын
The Trauma Saga
@1314Lelouch2 ай бұрын
Thunder saga hype?
@bryanspoty2 ай бұрын
Full what ahead?
@alex60272 ай бұрын
Heads up, this one isn't on your Epic playlist!
@PatrolNation2 ай бұрын
Fixed. Thank you.
@justarose2 ай бұрын
It's "a man who is hunting", not haunting! (I can see the reason for confusion though, it does really sound like haunting) Edit: nevermind I'm wrong