Motool Slacker Digital Sag Scale V2 - Episode 249

[@rx2ride259]

FINALLY, this is the first video I could find that shows the full demonstration on how to use it. Well done. Looks like a great tool.

[@nateemmett4485]

@dirtbikechannel actually if you talk to the guys at Motool they suggest on the 17 and 16 KTMs you use the SAG marker on the rear fender instead of the arc method. this is referenced on their blog on their webpage and Via a phone conversation with myself.

[@nateemmett4485]

blog.motool.co/search?updated-max=2016-09-25T09:35:00-07:00&max-results=7 check post from 18 September 2016

[@SlackerUSA]

Good catch;-)

[@brianpatterson5513]

nice review had mine little over a year and love it makes life so much easier especially with 3 bikes and i constantly change for different gear setups and camping stuff

[@Teamgsn]

I have this tool and completely agree with everything said in the video.setting sag is vital for how the bike handles and overall geometry/balance.it can also be used on the forks.since I can do it myself I'm always playing with settings wich allows me to really know my bike(s).great video!

[@EarthSurferUSA]

I just got this tool and love being able to set the sag by myself. But you should add one last step. Be very gentle taking your bike off the stand and putting it back on, because the tool can move on the axle, (I will make a pin for mine on my lathe). After you check/set the sag, gently put the bike on the stand to see if it is still reading zero. The first time I used it, it moved 2mm. But if your real careful, it won't move. The unit is also wireless now for the remote, or you can use your cell phone and not have to get the remote.

[@RobertKehl]

I think it a great idea for the same reason you stated Kyle. Plus the frustration of having someone else reading the measuring tape :( I just bought one because I know how important proper sag is. But at the $150 mark it's not for everyone.

[@ManAndMachine23]

Thanks just bought one through your link!

[@micar1000]

bike against the wall is a great idea...interesting too see the difference in measurement when your weight is moved around....love the gadget...correct sag is vital...ill have one i reckon!

[@boarder989]

Looks like a great add to the tool box.

[@Expat_Adventure]

Great informative video. Thanks for making it. I know how much work self shot videos are.

[@scotsman9490]

I can seen that tool it looks very good

[@AnthonyCifani]

so is it the rider sag - the static sag to get the actual sag of the bike to 30mm? Having a hard time understanding the whole "sag" thing.

[@tomascontreras512]

Thank you for the video !! Why do you need the static sag for ?? Just to know the difference between static and the sag with the pilot ?? Or why is it useful for ??

[@jeremydellasale7026]

Hey Kyle love the work with the channel can you please do a video of the different between linkage and psd suspension advantage and disadvantages

[@manugatzi6158]

Can't beat a $3 measuring tape. But love the idea someone's digging for better stuff.

[@kenneychappuis1853]

Piece of blue painter tape , tape measure, and piece of string. No biggie most people don't know what sag is anyway. If they are giving them away fantastic. I'll take one LOL

[@big_et5939]

the ktm 150 xcw is a enduro meaning you can ride it on the road to correct?

[@francorizza3570]

Could you check your front suspension too with sag scale?

[@sayheytome]

Can you use this on sport bikes and sport quads?

[@MX-127]

So why do Ktm put a sag line on the back fender it you are not supposed to use it ?

[@jkpupo1]

Why do I have to remove the rear brake spring to check oil level on a new ktm? I want to return it

[@zardportugal]

Expensive but we got top stuff here. Cheers K.B.

[@jorda.2412]

ive always used a ratchet strap and tape measure....if you dont own either....$10 at harbour freight or princess auto. no disinterested family needed...or 150$ box.

[@slowride2222]

Can you explain how that works with no helper? I own both, not sure how it would work though. Thanks!

[@ramonvandervelden3024]

I just ordered one. Thanks for the great review! One question; do you recommend the "arc method" or to measure from the rear axle to a vertical point like my KTM manual states?

[@bobthomas2812]

I bought it, nice product. Question is I have a 08 KTM 690e and have lowered the bike approx 1 5/8" and 3/4 down on the fork tubes. Would I subtract the 1 5/8ths to figure what it should be. I way 230 in gear and us it foe dual sport and have a fair amount of stuff. Bought it used in stock set up, I think, so some variables. Any advice, like the channel.

[@bobthomas2812]

I got a 82 mm static and 66 loaded seated? 1 5/8 = 41.2 mm and bike stock had 11.2" travel. My problem is 28" inseam at 5'9". Standing I raised my rentals an 1.5"! I know strange lol. I am sure I might need a spring but not sure what it should be.

[@adamdilley2876]

I didn't know the sag was that important? It would be kinda nice to see a video about say and why it's so important 👍

[@DMobley232]

Adam Dilley search sag by stillwell performance, search SAG by Rocky Mountain ATV/MC and you will find some good information. There are a few more. Would send links but hard on phone. Once you find those videos on KZbin you will see over to the right other similar videos that you can learn more. Pretty interesting.

[@bsmoto5140]

Tape measure works good for me, $150 is a little overpriced

[@julianwilson5174]

BSmoto Yesh I'd say

[@Hugo_Alex]

for 20 bucks or so you can get a laser distance meter. Isn't quite the same but at the price makes it an interesting option. hehe

[@dr187mx]

I ride both mx and off-road and can say with confidence that sag doesn't make 1/10 of the difference off-road as it does for mx riding. It's not worth the money even if it is for an mx bike.

[@julianwilson5174]

I was adjusting my sag just yesterday and I got a little confused... My static sag was at 50mm and rider sag at 100mm, static to soft, rider a bit to hard. if I try change one of them it makes the other on really off! How do I get it right?

[@SlackerUSA]

Hey Julien, You need s softer spring. The big static number means there is not much preload on the spring so it is not holding the bike up after you set the race sag. I like it between 35-40mm static and around 105-110 for moto and off-road. Be sure to compensate on the fork with a lighter spring as well. Always set your race sag before you look at the static;-)

[@julianwilson5174]

Oh ok thanks, ill look into it!

[@rabs2020]

What about the fork sag?

[@Dylans503]

Yeah it's weird that nobody talks about fork sag on Moto bikes.

[@albertptran]

Noticed your BCM shirt. Are you gonna make a vid of you packing a rifle on your dirtbike?

[@luzerino1124]

Hey man :) I have a question. I'm 14 years old and not realy that big (5'2) do you know what bike would be perfect for me (KTM) ?

[@Evaldeciever]

Luzerino Ktm Sx 85 or if your more experienced a Sx 125 with a low seat

[@dustin9035]

You should actually start out on a 450 with a side of life insurance

[@rustydodson4191]

Bike was so clean and fresh...until...the rear rim. Lol But, good videos and very helpful.

[@Godseverman]

do you change the sag on the front forks?

[@masterbeta343]

Why is race sag important?

[@EarthSurferUSA]

To get the bike frame angle where it should be for the best handling. Not enough race sag, and the head angle is steeper, and the front end could start shaking badly when braking for corners, (for example). To much race sag, and the head angle is more slack, and the front end may want to push instead of turn.

[@RoostedFilms]

cool tool but I'm with the majority of I'm going to spend $150 it would be on tires. Being a solid novice, new tires will make a bigger difference in my ride over adjusting 10mm of sag up or down. As long as we all ride were doing good. Roosted films on KZbin

[@RobboRobinson]

Good idea but I think the price is way too high.

[@florian558866]

150 bucks for bling? i've set my sag only once when i've bought the bike. never heard somebody saying...damn my riding improved so much after resetting my sag... i better invest in tires and gasoline for much more riding time to improve my riding skills. to say it in your words. its not that much bang for the buck.

[@waynehearst317]

set sag once, if your weight hasn't changed + or - 8 pounds and you never had the shock serviced, you're likely still good. Sag does make a HUGE difference, especially if you race and throw the bike into corners or ruts. Going from 108mm down to 102mm made a huge difference on my race bike.

[@MrKidkiller159]

just stand behind an hold the bike with your knees,been dion it this way for decades !!!!

[@MrKidkiller159]

I'm two cheap an the tape measure never lyes.

[@billboard1894]

The first one is not accurate compare

[@nonoantonio98]

wash your bike grub

[@theoprice721]

Waste of time and money

[@EarthSurferUSA]

Then I would not want to ride your bike.