2024 Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 | Small capacity outback motorcycle adventure shattering the myths!

[@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449]

Fantastic review of the Himi 450 , I reckon I have watched just about every review around the wound ( and I will not mention another 450 that is selling like hot cakes ) I think the Himalayan has its own unique style “ not copied style “

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I think it is a great bike and the .....other 450 is also in our stable of long termers. I like the Himi's unique style.

[@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV 100% Agee definitely not “ copy and paste “ I reckon one will join my stable at some stage .

[@flyingkiwi215]

Same, and I ended up getting one. Hasn’t disappointed and it’s got the retro look which I love.

[@SayuPatil-qs3yr]

😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@julianrose810]

Prep? Synthetic oil? Iridium plug? 🤔 Thanks😊

[@Paul-eq2rk]

Thanks mate. I have ridden the big Adventure bikes most of my life and not stopping soon. 67 now and I think I have found my new comfort zone. The Himi 450.😊

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Great to hear! I think EICMA will have a few surprises.

[@bishopkinlyside8477]

Hi guys, been watching a whole heap of blokes riding around India on the Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 and I must say they impressed me I’ve been riding motorbikes for 56 years and still love it today. Unfortunately I had a major truck accident on 2018 lost my right leg above the knee, but I didn’t stop me from riding a motorbike or so-called motorbike rider, Can-am, Ryker, 900 but if I had two legs, I definitely buying him alone for less than AU$9000 you could not go past if you do adventure riding like you said change the tyres to some decent tyres, bigger screen and a few other alterations and you’ve got it you go around Australia easy enough on Himalayan Anyway guys keep up the good work really enjoyed the video Cliff from Logan City, Queensland, Australia 🇦🇺 I’m on the big island 🏝️

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thanks Cliff.

[@MrTewaka2]

I finally got mine 3 weeks ago. Still in the tight 1000km run in. Did a ride with the Royal Riders Bali the other weekend. I've ridden lots of bikes over a long life and mostly 1000cc supers. I love this bike it's so fun, not boring, well built and perfect for indo. Last bike I'll buy and couldn't have made a better choice. You gave it a good review and thanks for your fair assessment. Good work guys(:-)

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thank you.

[@joshuasarfati5520]

Ive owned 2 classic 500 and one 350 classic Enfield. Ive a friend who rode one around the world and another who rode one around Australia twice. No problem. 2 things i love about the Enfield is the brilliant fuel economy. And the gearbox is solid as. I also have a dr 650. Cant say the same about that. Every oil change sees chuncks of gears come out in the oil. This is not the case on an enfeild. Ontop of thst they have character which makes them fun to ride

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Yeah the styling polarises people but I like it.

[@stephaneroberge5182]

great review as always! I'm at a crossroads in my riding life and enjoying the discoveries you made while going offroad. I have a 1250 GSA and i'm seriously thinking about switching fot this himalayan. GS comfort is second to none but it is a hell of a deal offroad and quite expensive to maintain. This himalayan seems like something that will put a smile to my face without being bother with all the gadgets and the weight.

[@markholmes6831]

Traditional is just the art of improving your product. You didn’t have to change the seat, which you are waiting to do on the CF. Also RE’s home market is a challenge for bikes, so it has given them an understanding of what is required, so probably shouldn’t be a surprise that it was more than capable on this ride.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

the main thing I find surprising is what a huge, huge improvement over the 410.

[@KirkAnderson-l3i]

Recently rode the Gun Barrel highway from Wiluna to Warburton back down the GCR, old Laverton road back to Perth ( all dirt except for a small stretch ) bikes , my light weight WR250R and a new RE 450 Himalayan. The Gun barrel was as rough ( corrugation from hell ) 40 mm rain in 12 hrs, 2 days lay over at Carnegie station ( rain ) the RE smashed the trip, no issues ,we were loaded, fuel, water ect. Tyres on RE Heidenau K60 Ranger and larger screen ( from India ) the RE took everything thrown at it. Fuel Consumption 450 km from main tank. My observation, a aftermarket rear shock with external Pre load ect and some work on front shock will be a game changer for this bike. Off coarse weight is always an issue. Any one that’s ridden Gun Barrel will understand the conditions of Track, relentless corrugation ect. This bike whilst not perfect ( none are Period ) straight from floor to these conditions over 10days Proved RE is more than capable for out back remote travelling. Next year, Transcontinental railway, Flinders, Simpson, Finke, back down Gun Barrel and the RE will There.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

thanks for your contribution Kirk

[@defiancecycling]

Thanks for confirming my upcoming purchase. Just waiting on the tubeless version here in the states.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I think they're a good bike and closer to the CFMOTO than many claim. I should know, we have both for testing at present.

[@martyn_g]

One of the few bikes, where literally the whole bike was engineered as an ADV, rather then design a chassis then pull the engine from a sports bike, etc.,

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Yes. And they've done a great job. A brave decision to have kept with the heritage. A feature that makes the bike stand out.

[@davidcauchi2837]

David thanks for a very informative bike review; It speaks volumes as the the major improvements to the bike; You are a great Ambassador for ADV, encouraging riders to get out there and experience our great country. At my age, 68 yrs, I do my best to get out there. Thank you! David...Triumph Scramblers ...1200X and 900.....

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Much appreciated!

[@teneretraveller8980]

Agree. Barkbusters, tall screen and heated grips ( this is the uk!) are all I've changed. The suspension is the best I've ridden straight out of the crate. For me it's a modern yammy xt500 with the bits to travel already added. Good work, gentlemen. Ride safe 👍

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Ta. Yeah, you guys need the heated grips. My definitely needs bark busters.

[@juliancain6128]

Sincere thanks to you guys at MAD for the awesome reviews and taking us out there with you to see the outback. I look forward to more!!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thanks for watching.

[@AfricaTwin-Stuff]

Very compelling review. Nicely done. Way more practical than my Africa Twin … but I have a small Willy so must ride a big bike 😢

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

More to come. Next time we take it in more technical stuff

[@TheRantyRider]

I have a 2022 411 Himsy with 15 000 miles on it, the 450 has more power and looks like the 411 mk2 rather than a radical departure. I had a road based ride of the 450 and between 70 & 80 mph there were a fair few vibes but it was fun to ride. I didn't take it off road as it was the loan/demo bike while mine was in for service but I have led off road days for Himalayans and it copes as well as the 411. The CF Moto looks to me like a bit of a pretender, as do a lot of 'adventure' bikes. Having dropped the Himsy, picked it up and restarted it with no damage [apart from to my ego] it seems to be very resilient too.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Great to hear owners talking of their experiences with the bike.

[@pinkiewerewolf]

Nice review on the bike Dave & Crew. If I didn't absolutely love my T7 the Himalayan 450 would already be ordered. (Or whatever I'd have to do here in the States) Fuzzy Biker (Forgotten Motorcycles on KZbin) has been putting tons of miles on his Himalayan 450 since the launch here in the US. Much respect to RE and Fuzzy. I did join the RE Ranks months ago buying a 2017 Bullet 500 from a young rider who is loosing her vision. It's a bit rough in areas since she dropped it a couple times and it isn't all old school as she added LED headlight and turn signals to try to help her riding as much as she could. I'd call it the last of the old school Royal Enfield bikes. I'm looking forward to the 650 Classic as my plans are to grab one when they are available.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thanks for your thoughts.

[@prajnaseek]

Ok, i was already sold on a Himalayan, as an all purpose bike capable of touring on or off-road. Now i'm certain: a Himalayan 450 it is.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

In those conditions, I couldn't fault it for the price.

[@davidtaylor1188]

I bought the Himalayan over the CFMoto but I think would have grown to love the CFMoto as well if I had gone that way. In the end I liked the riding position on the Himalayan and the better fuel economy was really important. Seems to be impossible to get accessories for the 450 Himalayan here in Australia. Everyone says "coming soon" so we can all dream about that bigger screen unless someone knows where stock is available. Looking forward to seeing more reviews of both bikes. Thanks.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

A lot more to come. Accessories are coming, I too am waiting.

[@flyingkiwi215]

Acerbis just put out a 24 litre plastic tank. Looks mint!

[@davidtaylor1188]

@@flyingkiwi215 thanks, I will have a look.

[@counterstrike6969]

You can check WRS from italy, they have a bigger screen and they ship all over the world

[@davidtaylor1188]

@@counterstrike6969 thank you. Probably wait until someone has local stock but will take a look. Lot of stuff available out of India.

[@ferkuzuel]

Excellent job! I somehow am more drawn towards the hemi than the 450mt, as you mentioned there are a lot of similarities, but I personally find that the hemi as a little more character for my tastes

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

There is definitely strong preferences of riders either way based on looks. Mechanically and capably they are similar with different strengths and weaknesses.

[@keepitreal1547]

People are getting soft these days. Every review & comments asking about vibration. No too long ago, people rode bikes for their purpose & fun, without any thought or mention of vibrations. Did they vibrate, yes many did, but owners understood its part of the character of each bike & so never gave it a thought as a positive or negative. These days many people dismiss the fundamentals of riding & want every bike to be flawless in every way. Bikes vibrate, it's an engine in a frame with two wheels...it will vibrate to some degree or another.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Some say the Himi vibrates. I was brought up with thumpers :)

[@keepitreal1547]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Exactly 👍 Some who want a bike to be perfect in every way, Inc never vibrate, ought to reconsider why they want a bike. I'm currently servicing my 80,000mile Fireblade, that's raced, toured & everything else inbetween. It's been the nearest bike to perfect for me & I love it's vibration tingles 😀

[@gillescafedjian1381]

People don't want vibrations. They don't want wind in their face too. They want confort seat, listen music, big capacity for luggages and cruise control. Basically, people want a car.

[@AndrewTurner-d1y]

Great review Dave. Ive got a 411 Himy with YSS suspension upgrade And absolutey love the bike as long as you accept its short comings. Starting to think i should have just put the money into the 450. Maybe next year.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

The 450 is a completely different machine. A huge leap in capability.

[@backontwowheels9469]

That was a great review of the bike from real world adventure riding and real world riders. Dave, I met you at the ABR festival a couple of times, where I brought my brand new Himi 452, It was my first time off road (at 61 years old) and I loved it. I did have an off as I was going around the Bridgestone trail and I think that was partly because I was riding with too much caution, I may have gone over the double rut if I had been going faster. Needless to say, picked up some battle scars and a few bruises but loved it none the less, I will definitely have it with me next year and intend to get a bit more experience through the year (winter is coming). There is a particular KZbinr over here that has slated the himi a bit with his bias towards the CFmoto but I think it is down to personal choice, the cfmoto is built like an adventure bike and the Himi more like a dirt bike (dual sport) and I personally want the dirt bike to improve my skill set from non-existent to novice 🤣. The beauty is I can then opt for some luggage like you have and include an occasional adventure. Thanks for your continuing great content guys

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

We have both as long termers. That said, for that ride, with bikes standard the Himi won by a nose. It will be interesting how the Himi goes in the tougher stuff.

[@TheEnfieldGuy]

Great review Dave, glad the Himi I passed on to you got a good work out! Loving my new one, can't wait to get out there & explore!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Mate it's certainly getting a work out :) But I gave it a bath today. Probably will need another to get that final layer of bugs of it! :)

[@yorkchris10]

Durable and comfortable suspension might only be appreciated if you've worn saddles. I really appreciated the Showa suspension on my OilHead. The damping was comfortable and went on thousands of km's of corrugations and ripea. After 200k km's the damping was not like new, but they never broke or leaked!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I'm impressed by the standard suspension's capability to absorb the little stuff.

[@KevinGriffiths-pv4xn]

Have you seen the new acerbis kit for the himi due end of October? Larger tank,skid plate,engine cases,hand guards,chain guide your just the man to test and report back properly & intellectually

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Nope, look forward to seeing that.

[@TwoWheelerSparky]

It certainly has that old school styling that some appreciate👍 I couldn't say no to the sound of the 450MT. Its my latest long term KZbin travel bike. So far so good!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Both are great value. The KTM390 will hit Australia in March and that will certainly be interesting. It's great finally getting movement in this most useful category of adventure.

[@glennwr450]

Great review, I hear a lot more talk about the cfmoto and very little about the himi, I’m guessing it’s the looks and being a twin that gives the 450mt the hype over the other bike, it’s great to have affordable reliable options

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Yes, that's why we reached out to get both bikes as long termers. The guy riding the CFMOTO on this trip just discounted the Himi by its look before he rode it. Outback riding is very different to the stuff you normally do, so looking forward to taking it in the tough stuff.

[@simonthomas5367]

It’s fantastic that you guys ride this cracking bike with so few options. No need for bark busters or a better engine guard? What do you think?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I've order bark busters and an off road bashplate.

[@geoffc3191]

Nice one mate.

[@diggy-d8w]

This bike is largely unknown in the United States but since learning of this bike just 3 months ago I've found a dealer just 25miles from my home. I'm digging into it trying to determine if there's any known issues that are hard to fix(parts/service) here in the US? This is a fair priced bike & while it ain't pretty I only care about how tough it is. peace

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

This a long term bike for MADTV, so you will be able to watch this one as we get more tough kilometres on it.

[@diggy-d8w]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Will Do, this is a lessor known bike to me but it might be what I need? Thanks

[@wesb123]

It’s not unknown it’s just that they’ve previously been made of subpar parts so nobody wants them. 😂

[@diggy-d8w]

Fair enough, the fact that I'm not aware of bikes made over in Europe really doesn't mean much as I haven't ridden in over 30 yrs but I saw one of these doing a major "Baja Styled Race" overseas which brought me to knowing they exist. It's hard to beat the major Japanese bikes I've seen all my life but I looking at this one like I've looked at lot of others. Hoping to have a bike in the near future. Thanks for the info... peace

[@wesb123]

@@diggy-d8w they’re not European, they started out as a Harley-Davidson ex employee who began making cheapo bikes in India and now they’re made in China so they’re cool 🤣

[@HartyBiker]

Great review guys, very keen to see how this bike handles the slow offroad stuff and deep sand. Side note, would you guys consider doing a light weight build of the himmy 450 where you try shed as much weight as you can. On paper this bike looks amazing if you could get it to 180kg

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I'm doing a build on the Himi and will be taking it on some tough stuff soon. So stand by.

[@HartyBiker]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV awesome, standing by 👌

[@morkanemor]

Great review. Can't wait to see more on this one.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

More to come! Next I want to take it in the tough stuff. More technical trails.

[@MORK-TV]

I'm heading east in my 411 Himalayan (now 500cc). Burnes my Stator just short of Norseman though so it's on a trailer and I'll do some repairs in Adelaide when the parts arrive. Heading for the Grampians, Vic High Country, Snowys and hopefully the Blue MTS too in the next 2¹/² months. I'm hoping I might be able to test a new Himalayan along the way somewhere.​@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

[@daveh1625]

Great review and have to agree with your observations (biased new owner? 500miles completed now on my uk 450 himalayan) and the best colour looks good with the tubeless rims. Need to get to 1200miles/2000km to complete the running in but even with only 6000rpm it has been a surprise how good this is. Not quite the same road test here but the way our roads are breaking apart with little maintenance this bike floats over the potholes.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Thanks for sharing

[@martinstewitt993]

What a great description of the offer, nice one!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Glad you liked it!

[@BeanieBiker_AutisticRider]

Both of them are beautiful machines and RE and cfmoto need to give themselves a pat on the back, still waiting on the arrival of my 450mt, but loved riding one at the abr festival

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Safe riding

[@RS23545]

Aprilia Tuareg is much better choice than 450mt. more power, more reliablity. more fuel range. superb build quality.

[@BeanieBiker_AutisticRider]

@RS23545 how can you say more reliability? That makes no sense, as these bikes have had no faults, price wise no it really isn't, and I've ridden the Tuareg, beauty of a machine, but they can't be compared. And there is nowt wrong with the build quality of either the Himalayan or the 450mt. Now off you go with your nonsense 😅

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

@@BeanieBiker_AutisticRider Have to agree. in Australia $23K vs $9.5K. Comparing apples to bauxite. :)

[@glensherritt574]

Thanks great video. After watching your Nepal trip on the Scram 411, to my mind a ute of a bike that doesn't do anything fantastically it just does it day after day, I'd basically decided that was the one for me. Now I'm not so sure. Bike will be used mainly for town riding however still want to go bush, SEQLD. I'll just have to ride them both and figure out which one suits a 66yr old bloke with one semi buggered left knee. Keep up the good work.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

The 450 is vastly improved over the 410 engine. Not sure if they are bringing out a 450 SCRAM but the Himi is good. More testing very soon.

[@martyn_g]

With the Great Basin bag, the rack handles didn’t interfere with it? And no problems getting to the deeper sections of the bag, or with pod removal and putting them back in?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I had no issues with the luggage.

[@ScottSillis]

Great reviews Fella's, I'm impressed with the review of the Himalayan 450, I still think I'd choose a CFMOTO 450 MT and do some minor upgrades. I loved the colour scheme too, very eye catching. 👍🇦🇺

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Both great bikes. Both are surprisingly good value and performance.

[@PLF-Bass]

As for 'high speed ': Here in Germany we have many highways without speed limit. Then you ride 130 - 160 (or even more) for long time just to get to the region you want. That's what would be the advantage over the 411 for me. (More comfort could be another arguement.) At these speeds: what is the consumption and behavior of the 450?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I have ridden your highways. They are as smooth as billiard table. When you're riding on a surface with golf ball sized rocks 10cm deep at 120 kph, that's hghway speed. Handing was surprisingly good. Fuel economy dropped to 5 and a bit litres per 100 kph

[@PLF-Bass]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV thanx! That's more than my old BMW F650 CS : 5.0 l/100 km with constant 140-150 km/h . At 120 significantly less (

[@ayushpatwal9911]

Hey should i wait for him 2025 model. when will it update?? Should i go for him 2024?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I don't know.

[@NickNorland]

Great review fellas. Thanks for the information.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Our pleasure!

[@NickNorland]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV what I’m really interested in is that pro Rally T7 at the end. Can’t wait to see how it’s set up.

[@stefanhansen5882]

You recommend the Himalayan 450 and the CFMoto 450MT for beginners? They are almost 200 kg. I have only ridden the Himalayan, and to me this is a good beginner bike for somewhere who sticks to tarmac and dirt roads. A beginner is better of learning on a much lighter bike on anything else but flat roads.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Stefan, A couple of things. You exaggerate the weight of the bikes and then you ignore the reality that the weight is much, much lower on these bikes. Please click the link in the top right hand corner of this video to see my CFMOTO review where I pick the bike up. There is no way in the world I would pick up a T7 like that without getting a back injury and according to you there's only a couple of kilograms difference in weight. And then there's the dirt road that we went on....ideal for beginners to explore. I've talked about centre of gravity many times on this channel and how riders, who are obsessed with specifications, don't understand it's meaning or how it feels. This is respectful way of strongly disagreeing with your point of view.

[@stefanhansen5882]

​@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I wrote "almost 200 kg". The bikes are 195-196 kg wet. How is "almost 200" an exaggeration? The T7 is 205 kg, so 10 kg heavier. Yes, it feels much heavier than the Himalayan when trying to lift it. However, when riding it in a bit of light terrain it didn't feel much heavier than the Himalayan. E.g. a 701 or a CRF300 feels MUCH lighter than both the Himalayan and the T7. My girlfriend is getting her license soon, and I would certainly advice her to ride the CRF300 rather than the Himalayan or the T7 (or the CFMoto 450MT, which I haven't ridden). Do you not agree than the CRF300 is a better bike for a beginner than these other bikes, except perhaps if it's only for nothing more difficult than gravel roads)?

[@christopherpekel6096]

​@@stefanhansen5882it depends how big you are. For a woman your suggestion is right, for a 35 year old 6 foot guy there's no reason they can't start on the Himalayan (with engine guards! Lol)

[@davidbesant]

I notice you had the tubed rims. I don't like the look of the tubless rims and was prepared to run the risk on punctures. I've been riding for more than 40 years and only had two punctures and fixed both on the roadside.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

On one ride in the outback I got 5 flats!

[@cyclopathic998]

Thanks guys! That's the kind of review I've been looking for. Maybe I'll buy one in India, instead of dragging mine over there

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Not a bad way of doing it.

[@cyclopathic998]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV so what is the source for higher windshield? OEM accessory? Would a cheap clip on do?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

@@cyclopathic998 OEM

[@maccas44]

Awesome Dave, New riding gear? Jacket looks a treat

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Sure is! Yeah, that is the Leatt Multitour Jacket

[@JacobAnawalt]

Great review! Great views! I just need my Aussie translation on. ;)

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Good point..

[@jmsask]

Did it use a stock air filter? How did it hold up?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Air filter was stock. I'll be looking at that shortly.

[@prajnaseek]

Please, a video comparing the Himalayan 450 with a WR 450, a DR 650, and a Tenere 700 - my top four picks, in that order.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Can't do. Our comparison will ultimately be CFMOTO / Himi / Honda crf300 and maybe just maybe KTM450 Adventure.

[@clickbaitpro]

​@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV*KTM 390 Adventure

[@KevinGriffiths-pv4xn]

Another great (set if you include the others) video Are you paying a visit to ABR festival 2025 in the uk maybe get Clubby & Nugget in as hand luggage

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

That's the plan!

[@mithunkartha]

Slushy trails with mud under the front lower fender will be an issue. Good bike.

[@Sunny-rf3bg]

Yes for every adv bike too

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

The same with all guard high or low. I’ve experienced it. It doesn’t matter.

[@LincolnRandall-vy9nl]

Dave it appears i have to eat humble pie. I was wrong. I was convinced the 450mt was a better bike for a around the world bike. But the thing i didnt think about was the octane of fuel. Can you elborate at all about what you think about that. The Himmy appears it can run on fuel with an octane as low as 90. The CFmoto appears it needs 95 and im unsure about the availbility of that in different countries one in mind is indonesia. 90 octane is standard. Can i ask your opinion on this topic.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I don't know enough.

[@ShaunYoung]

Hey MADTV team do you share any of your gps tracks? Some of these roads look fantastic

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Nope, sorry. Never have.

[@robotech21]

great review, may I ask which is the screen that you used?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Not sure. But I will return to that when we do more on the CFMOTO

[@robotech21]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV thank you

[@TheBard84]

Between the two bikes, which one would you say is more comfortable for someone tall like 1.90 and above? I m talking mainly on the foot pegs position and the distance between them and the seat

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I reckon you'll need bar risers and the rally seat option on the CFMOTO. Both are comfortable. Himi maybe slightly more rooomy.

[@TheBard84]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV thank you! Himi is (likely) more roomy even if I pick the taller seat and bar risers for both of them?

[@FernitoAM]

Great review. The himi looks like it belings out there. I kind of like more the look of thr cf moto, as in my garage, but i feel i'd prefer thr himi out there. Purely based on looks opinion.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

They are a very different look and evoke strong emotions either way. But mechnically they are great for the price.

[@mojo8746]

Does that little fender on the front that's close to the tire pack up with mud? I think our clay would just fill in and stop the tire!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

No, the distance is no further away than other bikes. In the outback mud will pack around tyres even with high gurads and prevent the wheel turning

[@glossblack1098]

It’s quite interesting that Itchy Boots has gone to an old school big thumper, probably because there is nothing in the Dual Sport market that suits her needs (decent power, simple, easy to work on, reliable, single cylinder, long maintenance intervals, light weight). Cheers

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I think there's more to it than that. It will be interesting how she likes it. They are a good bike.

[@RS23545]

she will regret her choice when that old bike will show its true colors.

[@RS23545]

tubeless spoke wheels available for himalayan now in INDIA. is it available there in australia?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Not sure.

[@jimmydickson8854]

Any problems with the ride by wire because if it packs up your stranded if your by your self ,cable you can fix,jimmy WA

[@larsihle9256]

Ride by wire systems are sooo reliable . I say that as a mechanic with 45 years experience . The advantages of RBW far out weigh the possible trouble.

[@jimmydickson8854]

@@larsihle9256 thanks for your reply gives me a piece of mind that it won’t let me down ,now I will think about buying the 450 as it suites me for my type of riding 👍😀

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Would you not ride with EFI for the same reason. Ride by wire is in stacks of bikes now. Very reliable.

[@PharaohDeathMask]

8:21 Snake! On the gravel road, as the narrator says "continuation of the power".

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Lots out there.

[@rahulsinghdeo5982]

the Himalayan 450 originally comes with 140 mm tyre at the rear. you changed it to 150 mm. did it make any improvement ?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Yes, but not because of the width, but because of the more aggressive dirt tyres that make a huge difference in the dirt.

[@glennmorrissey2529]

Hi mate, so at the end of the day CF MOTO 450 MT or Himalyan?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

both bikes are long termers. Outback riding is a pretty specific thing. In those conditions I leaned toward the Himi, by a millimetre. We have a video coming out tomorrow night that sheds more light on it. I'm yet to do a test similar to what I did with the CFMOTO, that will be the decider for me, I think. But I'll admit I have a leaning towards the Himi, I like it's appearance. Mechanically, in terms of performance and capability I think they're pretty close but the appearance of the bikes certainly polarise riders. In short, I want to do my thorough test. That will be in a month or two.

[@glennmorrissey2529]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Mate at Troooper Lu's is selling the CF so test ride November 2nd, will get a test ride on the Himalayan at Motociclo. Just looking for somehting light, also, hearing CF Moto are having supply issues with spare parts.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

@@glennmorrissey2529 Both are due to their popularity. I expect that will settle down. I am hearing, although not confirmed, they are the top sellers at present. I really think it's important to ride both.....and then in March the KTM390 arrives

[@cliff1551]

Dave when you went from London to Sydney how much did it cost mate please, I'm actually sick of England now want to get out of it,

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Not as much as you would think. The route we took is impossible now.

[@cliff1551]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I'll find a way ,go big or go home ye ,

[@stuartmottram9284]

Interesting you didn't change the bash plate. Why?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Bashplate and other odds and ends are coming, But not too much.

[@jmsask]

In your opinion can you get better for your dollar?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Both the Himi and the CFMOTO are great value. I think the best that's been in many years. They are ready to go and get out there.

[@charliequach6399]

Would this bike or the 450MT have enough power for 2 up? I wanna take my 13 yo son for 2-3 days riding/camping trips. I'm just afraid the 450 cc engines won't have enough power. I'm not buying an ADV bike yet and still waiting for the 800MT-X to come out next year.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Yes it will, provided you don't take too much crap.

[@charliequach6399]

I'll go for a test ride then.

[@clivedarwell5732]

Thinking about it as a round-the-world bike, what do you think about the ride-by-wire throttle as a potential reliability weak point (difficult to fix in out of the way places)? IMO it's an unnecessary nod to being a modern bike and therefore a mistake - can ride it gently if you're worried about being in "eco" mode.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

That's like the argument for EFI v carby. Eco mode didn't seem to make any difference at highway speeds.

[@clivedarwell5732]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Not likely to smash your EFI on a rock, though!

[@slakk5093]

They originally planned for the himi to have cruise control as standard. One of the engineers at the abr festival hinted that it still might be coming. They just ran out of time. Maybe next years model

[@clivedarwell5732]

@@slakk5093 Thanks - it does now make sense to me, in contrast to previously when I thought the eco mode option was totally unnecessary.

[@sniperule2004]

I went for the cf moto mt 450. For me Himalayan 450 felt top heavy (felt it heavier than transalp 750) . It also had a lot of vibration! The instrument cluster screen was very slow. Good suspension . Himalayan 450 also has better fuel consumption. Also i did not feel as intimidated on the mt 450!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Both good bikes, but the CFMOTO is heavier, just a lower centre of gravity.

[@hakshayak2044]

Bro u gonna regret it. Reliability on cf moto is similar that of ktm. See u at the service centre

[@sniperule2004]

@@hakshayak2044 My bike, my regret. Better than not having what to regret.

[@ShinzouWoSateSateSate]

​@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV both of them weigh the same (196kg)

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

@@ShinzouWoSateSateSate We will have a weigh off and solve this once and for all. :) In the coming weeks.

[@dylb8801]

Adam had the best T7 hamds down

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I know a guy who has a better one and I’ll be showcasing his bike very soon.

[@cloud9847]

how comfortable are these 2 bikes at 70mph, 80mph? I'm 5'7" and weigh roughly 150lbs (depending on breakfast) with a 30" inseam. I'm considering bikes like the KTM 790, Transalp 750 or something like the Vstrom 800DE. I'm only considering these bikes over the 'smaller' bikes due to highway miles. I need reliable, comfortable highway potential from the bike. I plan to travel and do BDRs in the US and need to use highways to get there. I'm a huge fan of RE and the CFmoto stuff is impressing people who give them a honest try. Any guidance would be appreciated!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Sits on 70 mph comfortably, after that it can do it, but it's revving.

[@cloud9847]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I'm putting a down payment on a tubeless one this week and hope to take delivery by December! Thank you for your review. It was wonderful.

[@jimmydickson8854]

For the price of the bike and what it can do it’s good value ,the T7 is tall and top heavy and the price of a T7 not every one can afford one it’s a great bike but to tall for a short arse ,I’m happy with my 450 hemy no regrets jimmy WA

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

It is a good bike.

[@biswajitbarik1724]

Which tyres ?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Pirelli Scorpion Rally Race

[@tamayaytam]

No mention about single cylinder vibration. Does Himalayan vibrate? During long journeys especially for the pillion it is most tiring thing.

[@knuckles-3386]

Vibrations will absolutely destroy you on a long ride your hands go numb and you can’t keep your feet on the pegs and parts start falling off

[@tamayaytam]

@@knuckles-3386 i have a single cylinder 300 cc bike. My pillion can not stand for 20 km ride. It doesn't affect me though.

[@keepitreal1547]

​@@knuckles-3386 People are getting soft these days. Every review & comments asking about vibration. No too long ago, people rode bikes for their purpose & fun, without any thought or mention of vibrations. Did they vibrate, yes many did, but owners understood its part of the character of each bike & so never gave it a thought as a positive or negative. These days many people dismiss the fundamentals of riding & want every bike to be flawless in every way. Bikes vibrate, it's an engine in a frame with two wheels...it will vibrate to some degree or another.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

You didn't listen :(. I spoke about that in detail. No vibration.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

The Himi has no vibration, you need to listen to what I say! It's a well balanced engine.

[@markrich9619]

Brand new you'd hope they'd be good

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

That's the point of a long term review. Let's see how they go.

[@romans883]

I have Honda CB500X love little light bikes

[@tanukimoto]

high fender and lowfender? :D looks funny i allready see the front tire getting stuck in mud

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

The mud here stops all bikes regardless of high or low fenders.

[@tommipaunonen4051]

When you said there has been reliability problems with big manufacturers, I know only one. Or is there also some other than KTM? 😊

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

There's a few instances with recalls in the past couple of years. KTM's soft cams wasn't initially handled as good as it could have been, which is a pity, because I love the stuff they do and really looking forward to the KTM 390 Adventure.

[@tommipaunonen4051]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Yes, and it is still not handled well. They are still having their story until 2020 models, but there are many issues in newer models as well, including 901s. They really need to do something for the quality or there will be only hardcore KTM fanboys (and girls) left. 🙃

[@axellness]

Thanks for the video!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

You're welcome!

[@TommyNitro]

How do you find the seat to peg distance on this one? Is it open or cramped?

[@TommyNitro]

Never mind, you just addressed it.

[@jeffloucks2120]

I'm liking the multi-positional seat options from off the showroom floor. Could see a higher position for longer miles and swap to a bit lower for those wanting to be able to padfle or dab through slow/rougher sections.

[@TommyNitro]

@@jeffloucks2120 Good point.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Yep I addressed it.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I agree.

[@rohit236]

650 km a day? Wow. You guys are fit.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

In the outback, those distances are fairly average. I have exceeded 900 kilometres in a day, but not recommended.

[@ripleydead8041]

What about your backs mate ?? ​@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

[@larrytucker1945]

But the real question is how does it compare to the Mighty KLR 650😂.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Good point!

[@tomasrestrepoa.1247]

2.000km in 3 days!

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

yep

[@LincolnRandall-vy9nl]

Great review. I agree on all your points but a couple things. The elephant in the room is the horrendous high frequency vibes from the Himi 450. At highway speeds at its worst. I rode test one for 45mins and it took 1 hour for my legs to stop tingling. Its high feequency sk much worst than the previous model 411. Also the wind buffering is horrendous as well. I would have to try the tall screen but have heard it doesnt make a huge diference. Ive ridden the CF moto 450mt as well. Motor is nice and at highway speeds virtually no vibes and bufferring is minimal. On your point of suspension. The CFmoto suspension is hard from factory but you forgot to mention its fully adjustable. So with a bit of play it can be dialed in to your specific riding needs. Down side of the CFmoto is the snatchy throttle. As a Royal enfeild fan boy i still cant see how the 450 himmy is really in the same league as the 450mt for all but people who love the look.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

You must be riding a different bike Lincoln or on another planet. Mine is as smooth as, at all speeds. I'd suggest the wheels weren't balanced. As for wind buffetting, that's why I fitted the larger screen. I've done a thorough CFMOTO review on this channel and we have one long term. Mechanically and in terms of performance the bikes are neck and neck. We have both long term and will be looking more closely at capability. There is no question the styling of the two bikes is very different and either alienates or attracts.

[@LincolnRandall-vy9nl]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV No mate def not on another planet, you yourself mentioned the vibes in your first on road test of the bike. Maybe they are less noticable on gravel but they are mentioned by just about every other reviewer and ckearly very apparent when you ride the bike. Maybe for some people its exceptable but for me it completely detracts from the ride experience. Im not an engineer but the new frame design incorporates the engine as part of the support structure, this maybe be why the footpegs buzz and the new 450 Gurellia, different frame design doesnt have the same vibration issue.

[@elijahchristofferson8780]

Mine is smooth as well. Just got the first one here in NW Washington. I heard a lot about the vibration talk, and I can say it is not an issue.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

@@elijahchristofferson8780 It is not an issue. It irritates me these issues are created and people actually believe them!

[@elijahchristofferson8780]

Just for perspective, I am coming from a Tiger 800, to the RE Himy 450. The Tiger was one of the smoothest bikes I owned. So I was expecting increased vibration like I have heard. But, was surprised at how smooth the RE was. ​@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV

[@JochenThe1]

When I stood first time next to the 450 Himalayan I was shocked how small it looks, so no Bike for tall people If you want look cool 😢 on the pictures it looks bigger.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Bar risers?

[@John450-Himilayan]

I'm 6'3 had the new himi for 4 months use it to commute to work and play on the trails on the weekend You can reverse the risers to give more reach and so far I haven't had a problem and no one has laughed at me that I know of 😂

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

@@John450-Himilayan Well done!

[@user-Wfmngr]

Cf moto is a good bike.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Yep

[@BlazinBlades]

So On the Himi you had the one piece tall Rally seat but on the CF you did not? Nothing about the top heaviness people are complaining about? Thanks mates 🍻🍻

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

There is no one piece rally seat on the Himi. We are waiting for Rally Seats for both the CFMOTO and Himi. I think the feeling of top heaviness on the Himi, comes from the side stand which is way to short and tilts the bike over and a lot of effort is needed to get it standing upright.

[@BlazinBlades]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Thanks 🙏

[@soundzrinmygarden3833]

Would rather have a Japanese adventure bike any day.

[@ChuckCassadyYT]

Lol which?

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I'm not sure there is a Japanese 450 or 500 adventure bike out there. Maybe if your lucky EICMA may bring something...a CRF500 perhaps?

[@grahamrowe6278]

That fuel economy - just a smidge over 75mpg (UK).

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

That was average for the whole trip. When I went flat out, naturally it dropped but a real fuel sipper for the average.

[@grahamrowe6278]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Dave, I've heard 90mpg when out an about on an average day here. Not ridden either it, or the 450MT yet... it'll be interesting.

[@Jasfras1]

Enfield Himalayan

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

yes

[@saurav.bishtt]

In india this is famous for breaking frame/chassis..

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I think that is a myth. I believe one or two frames broke following an accessories manufacturer mounting a bashplate wrong off a key structural part of the frame. In any event in the next test it will be hitting the tough stuff and jumping. That is the beauty of long term testing of bikes. Ultimately any common faults will be revealed.

[@SherlockHolmesIndefatigable]

Don't insult brother our own bike....our own Royal Enfield...

[@SILENT_FREQUENCY]

I don't think soooo......

[@davidsobey764]

Keep an eye out for chassis cracks, more and more breaking according to Indian sources.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

I believe these faults are related to a non oem bashplate that is mounted incorrectly. Our bike is a long termer and we'll be giving it a flogging.

[@davidsobey764]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV not so apparently, look up Zana motorcycles channel for some clarity on the issues with the frames.

[@adityan3208]

More and more? I've heard of 2 cases only.

[@sbsb4995]

Yamaha tenere is overrated. It's rubbish. Too heavy. An absolute marketing gimmick 😢😢

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Well I own one and I can't agree, but it is top heavy. But beautfiul handling, a wonderful engine and great ergos standing or seated.

[@valb7424]

I think if more people will report frame weakness issues, then RE will have big problems with selling and reputation.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

This is crap. If people had frame issues they would report it. Australia and many other countries and Enfield themselves have strong warranty.

[@curio78]

too heavy, the 450 is the legacy of dakar race. The bike is too heavy and needs to lose a whole lot of weight. its nearly 50 kg heavier than the tenere.

[@shannonjurd4212]

No way that's going to be a longevity bike.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

How do we know that yet? Why don't we wait and see for either the Himi or CFMOTO. All over the world, these bikes are now racking up big kilometres as we speak. If they have weaknesses we'll start to hear about them shortly. But most importantly, it's how manufacturers respond once a trending problem has been identified. And how quickly the rectify the problem.

[@2018NukNuk]

6000-8000 rpm, who wants to ride like that, its not a race.

[@NorCalSaint]

I believe his point was that you can rev it for extra power when needed

[@RealHooksy]

As Dave said, it’s there when you need it. You don’t have to use it if you don’t want to, but you can if you like.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

You need to listen to the entire dialogue. It's good to have access to that power IF you need it. WHEN you need it.

[@jakeviolet2195]

The problem with most small displacement bikes is the top end of the rev range is completely useless. You give it more gas and all you get is extra noise out the pipe while the engine bogs. Himalayan has solved one of the most frustrating problems with small adventure bikes. Doesn't mean you gotta ride around on the redline all the time. Duh.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

@@jakeviolet2195 The Himi has the punch in the 6 to 8 when you need it. More punch than the CFMOTO. But most of the time you're sitting around 5,300 rpm.

[@NorCalSaint]

Surprised you didn't mention the air filter location since you were riding in the dusty outback... RE seems to have a winner that should bring new people to adventure riding & make many sell the larger bikes. - Thanks for the vid

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

This is a long term bike. I will film the 10,000 km service and that includes the airflilter and it's access.

[@pinkiewerewolf]

Full Pelt Adventures did a pretty good job doing some service on the Himalayan 450, you have to remove the fuel tank to get to the air filter. I'm not a fan of that design and I've said its a deal breaker for me but... the more I think about it, I rarely ride with anyone else so I'm not eating their dust, so it really doesn't matter as I don't need to change it every ride. BTW, NorCalSaint, I'm in Humboldt County. Nice to see another Nor-Cal rider on MADTV.

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

@@pinkiewerewolf I have been told you don't have to remove the fuel tank. You can achieve itby loosening one bolt on the tank and pivotting it up. Time will tell.

[@pinkiewerewolf]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV That would be welcome news to find out Dave. Thanks for the reply and of course I'll be watching your follow up videos on The Himalayan 450. 👍

[@allan9584able]

Serious taking that box of garbage out there

[@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV]

Ignorance is bliss. Have you ridden one? From what experience are you making your comment?

[@RS23545]

@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV chinese bots. came here to downgrade the competition. their comments only show hate.